Moderated Accessible drive utility?
Hi everyone!
I need to securely wipe the content from three external hard drives that I am going to give to my brother. Is there a drive wiping utility that will wipe the entire drive that is accessible with JAWS?
Thanks!
Gene...
If you really want to be sure that any information that was on the drive is completely unrecoverable, you have to either physically destroy the drive, which is what is done with drive that contained classified information that is no longer needed. Or you use a disk wiping utility.
Gene...
Can you just plug in the drive, go to Desktop and go to This PC. Arrow down to your drive and hit the Application or Context menu and arrow down to Format and hit Enter. This should wipe everything off of the drive.
On 11/13/2022 3:13 PM, Gene Warner wrote:Hi everyone!
I need to securely wipe the content from three external hard drives that I am going to give to my brother. Is there a drive wiping utility that will wipe the entire drive that is accessible with JAWS?
Thanks!
Gene...
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 3:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?
Can you just plug in the drive, go to Desktop and go to This PC. Arrow
down to your drive and hit the Application or Context menu and arrow
down to Format and hit Enter. This should wipe everything off of the drive.
On 11/13/2022 3:13 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
Hi everyone!
I need to securely wipe the content from three external hard drives
that I am going to give to my brother. Is there a drive wiping utility
that will wipe the entire drive that is accessible with JAWS?
Thanks!
Gene...
diskpart (you will likely get a UAC prompt for diskpart, answer, “Yes,” of course)
list disk
select disk X Where X is the disk number you're trying to wipe. For an external drive, this is NOT drive 0. Look at the size reported for the drives and you'll likely know exactly which one you want to select. Make sure you have the correct number as the next step will wipe the disk of all partitions.
clean all Purges the disk of all existing partitions and also overwrites
drive’s contents, and takes much, much longer to complete as a
result. Count on approximately 2.5 hours per 500 GB capacity on
a HDD, at least. It could be longer. Use clean all when the
drive is being donated or given to someone else and you
need to be absolutely certain that there is no way to recover the data that was on the drive.
exit (to close diskpart)
exit (to close Command Prompt or PowerShell)
Solid-state drives are best wiped using the secure erase option which is generally most easily accessed in the utility that the drive manufacturer supplies.
Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045
If you cannot or will not imagine the results of your actions, there’s no way you can act morally or responsibly. Little kids can’t do it; babies are morally monsters — completely greedy. Their imagination has to be trained into foresight and empathy.
~ Ursula LeGuin, 2005 Interview in The Guardian
When my brother worked for a company that contracts to the airforce, and he
dealt with the computers on aircraft, he had to destroy a bunch of hard
drives, and he gave me a bunch of rare earth magnets from the hard drives he
destroyed.
Glenn
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?
All that does is write a new blank root directory to the drive, it does
not erase all of the information that was stored on the drive, that
information is still there if someone wants to use a drive scanner on it
they could recover all kinds of files that could include sensitive
information you prefer they not have.
If you really want to be sure that any information that was on the drive
is completely unrecoverable, you have to either physically destroy the
drive, which is what is done with drive that contained classified
information that is no longer needed. Or you use a disk wiping utility.
Gene...
On 11/13/2022 6:32 PM, Marty Hutchings wrote:
Can you just plug in the drive, go to Desktop and go to This PC. Arrow
down to your drive and hit the Application or Context menu and arrow
down to Format and hit Enter. This should wipe everything off of the
drive.
On 11/13/2022 3:13 PM, Gene Warner wrote:Hi everyone!
I need to securely wipe the content from three external hard drives
that I am going to give to my brother. Is there a drive wiping utility
that will wipe the entire drive that is accessible with JAWS?
Thanks!
Gene...
The military often destroys hard drives.-
Which has always been overkill, but that is indeed what is often required.
There are many ways to wipe a drive that include overwriting the whole drive as part of that, and that's more than enough to obliterate the data that was on the drive.
I can only imagine how many tons of perfectly reusable storage is destroyed because there are false beliefs about the ability to actually wipe data.
--
Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045
If you cannot or will not imagine the results of your actions, there’s no way you can act morally or responsibly. Little kids can’t do it; babies are morally monsters — completely greedy. Their imagination has to be trained into foresight and empathy.
~ Ursula LeGuin, 2005 Interview in The Guardian
The brother who is getting these drives has a rather lengthy criminal record, he has been sentenced to prison several times, the last time he was in for 12 years. I don't trust him even a little bit, and wouldn't put it past him to try to find sensitive personal information.
Gene...
The military often destroys hard drives.
When my brother worked for a company that contracts to the airforce, and he
dealt with the computers on aircraft, he had to destroy a bunch of hard
drives, and he gave me a bunch of rare earth magnets from the hard drives he
destroyed.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?
All that does is write a new blank root directory to the drive, it does
not erase all of the information that was stored on the drive, that
information is still there if someone wants to use a drive scanner on it
they could recover all kinds of files that could include sensitive
information you prefer they not have.
If you really want to be sure that any information that was on the drive
is completely unrecoverable, you have to either physically destroy the
drive, which is what is done with drive that contained classified
information that is no longer needed. Or you use a disk wiping utility.
Gene...
On 11/13/2022 6:32 PM, Marty Hutchings wrote:Can you just plug in the drive, go to Desktop and go to This PC. Arrow
down to your drive and hit the Application or Context menu and arrow
down to Format and hit Enter. This should wipe everything off of the
drive.
On 11/13/2022 3:13 PM, Gene Warner wrote:Hi everyone!
I need to securely wipe the content from three external hard drives
that I am going to give to my brother. Is there a drive wiping utility
that will wipe the entire drive that is accessible with JAWS?
Thanks!
Gene...
Formatting a drive, does not erase any information which was Previously stored on the drive before it was formatted. There are a number of software data programs, which have the capability to recover data, even though a drive/sd card/memory stick has been formatted. The only way to ensure any and all data is erased from any storage medium, is to use a specific program or, a program which has the function, to perform a low-level format for the specific storage medium, which erases all format information and data from anSSD, HDD, SD card or memory stick.
Dave
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?
Can you just plug in the drive, go to Desktop and go to This PC. Arrow down to your drive and hit the Application or Context menu and arrow down to Format and hit Enter. This should wipe everything off of the drive.
On 11/13/2022 3:13 PM, Gene Warner wrote:Hi everyone!
I need to securely wipe the content from three external hard drives that I am going to give to my brother. Is there a drive wiping utility that will wipe the entire drive that is accessible with JAWS?
Thanks!
Gene...
will clean it of personal information.
One could boot to Linux or WinPE and fill that drive with videos or whatever
to wipe it out as well.
Glenn
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?
Marty:
Formatting a drive, does not erase any information which was Previously
stored on the drive before it was formatted. There are a number of software
data programs, which have the capability to recover data, even though a
drive/sd card/memory stick has been formatted. The only way to ensure any
and all data is erased from any storage medium, is to use a specific program
or, a program which has the function, to perform a low-level format for the
specific storage medium, which erases all format information and data from
anSSD, HDD, SD card or memory stick.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?
Can you just plug in the drive, go to Desktop and go to This PC. Arrow
down to your drive and hit the Application or Context menu and arrow down
to Format and hit Enter. This should wipe everything off of the drive.
On 11/13/2022 3:13 PM, Gene Warner wrote:Hi everyone!
I need to securely wipe the content from three external hard drives that
I am going to give to my brother. Is there a drive wiping utility that
will wipe the entire drive that is accessible with JAWS?
Thanks!
Gene...
I need to securely wipe the content from three external hard drives that
I am going to give to my brother. Is there a drive wiping utility that
will wipe the entire drive that is accessible with JAWS?
Thanks!
Gene...
Gene...
CCleaner has a feature that will wipe the drive clean. Picking how many passes is one of the options but, I haven't looked at it in quite some time so I don't recall what other options it has.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
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*Subject:* Accessible drive utility?
Hi everyone!
I need to securely wipe the content from three external hard drives that
I am going to give to my brother. Is there a drive wiping utility that
will wipe the entire drive that is accessible with JAWS?
Thanks!
Gene...
Marty:
Formatting a drive, does not erase any information which was Previously stored on the drive before it was formatted. There are a number of software data programs, which have the capability to recover data, even though a drive/sd card/memory stick has been formatted. The only way to ensure any and all data is erased from any storage medium, is to use a specific program or, a program which has the function, to perform a low-level format for the specific storage medium, which erases all format information and data from anSSD, HDD, SD card or memory stick.
Dave
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?Can you just plug in the drive, go to Desktop and go to This PC. Arrow down to your drive and hit the Application or Context menu and arrow down to Format and hit Enter. This should wipe everything off of the drive.
On 11/13/2022 3:13 PM, Gene Warner wrote:Hi everyone!
I need to securely wipe the content from three external hard drives that I am going to give to my brother. Is there a drive wiping utility that will wipe the entire drive that is accessible with JAWS?
Thanks!
Gene...
default.
That just instructs the operating system to write over what is on the drive
and shows it as blank.
Glenn
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?
I stand corrected then. I was always under the impression that if I
formatted a drive on accident, I would be screwed, that my data would be
lost.
On 11/13/2022 7:39 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Marty:
Formatting a drive, does not erase any information which was
Previously stored on the drive before it was formatted. There are a
number of software data programs, which have the capability to recover
data, even though a drive/sd card/memory stick has been formatted. The
only way to ensure any and all data is erased from any storage medium,
is to use a specific program or, a program which has the function, to
perform a low-level format for the specific storage medium, which
erases all format information and data from anSSD, HDD, SD card or
memory stick.
Dave
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings"
<mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?Can you just plug in the drive, go to Desktop and go to This PC.
Arrow down to your drive and hit the Application or Context menu and
arrow down to Format and hit Enter. This should wipe everything off
of the drive.
On 11/13/2022 3:13 PM, Gene Warner wrote:Hi everyone!
I need to securely wipe the content from three external hard drives
that I am going to give to my brother. Is there a drive wiping
utility that will wipe the entire drive that is accessible with JAWS?
Thanks!
Gene...
Gene...
It's definitely a lot easier if you only do a quick format, which is the
default.
That just instructs the operating system to write over what is on the drive
and shows it as blank.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?
I stand corrected then. I was always under the impression that if I
formatted a drive on accident, I would be screwed, that my data would be
lost.
On 11/13/2022 7:39 PM, Dave Durber wrote:Marty:
Formatting a drive, does not erase any information which was
Previously stored on the drive before it was formatted. There are a
number of software data programs, which have the capability to recover
data, even though a drive/sd card/memory stick has been formatted. The
only way to ensure any and all data is erased from any storage medium,
is to use a specific program or, a program which has the function, to
perform a low-level format for the specific storage medium, which
erases all format information and data from anSSD, HDD, SD card or
memory stick.
Dave
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings"
<mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?Can you just plug in the drive, go to Desktop and go to This PC.
Arrow down to your drive and hit the Application or Context menu and
arrow down to Format and hit Enter. This should wipe everything off
of the drive.
On 11/13/2022 3:13 PM, Gene Warner wrote:Hi everyone!
I need to securely wipe the content from three external hard drives
that I am going to give to my brother. Is there a drive wiping
utility that will wipe the entire drive that is accessible with JAWS?
Thanks!
Gene...
[Quick Format] just instructs the operating system to write over what is on the drive and shows it as blank.-
But that's the problem, it does NOT "write over what is on the drive." All a quick format does is mark all space as available, which is a very quick thing to do indeed. Writing over is an actual drive wipe and is a long, slow process for large capacity hard disk drives.
You can use virtually any simple file recovery software on a quick formatted drive and get every last bit of data that was on it, or very near to it, back.
--
Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045
If you cannot or will not imagine the results of your actions, there’s no way you can act morally or responsibly. Little kids can’t do it; babies are morally monsters — completely greedy. Their imagination has to be trained into foresight and empathy.
~ Ursula LeGuin, 2005 Interview in The Guardian
Dave
From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 1:49 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?
I believe that filling the drive with any meaningless data multiple times
will clean it of personal information.
One could boot to Linux or WinPE and fill that drive with videos or whatever
to wipe it out as well.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?
Marty:
Formatting a drive, does not erase any information which was Previously
stored on the drive before it was formatted. There are a number of software
data programs, which have the capability to recover data, even though a
drive/sd card/memory stick has been formatted. The only way to ensure any
and all data is erased from any storage medium, is to use a specific program
or, a program which has the function, to perform a low-level format for the
specific storage medium, which erases all format information and data from
anSSD, HDD, SD card or memory stick.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?
Can you just plug in the drive, go to Desktop and go to This PC. Arrow
down to your drive and hit the Application or Context menu and arrow down
to Format and hit Enter. This should wipe everything off of the drive.
On 11/13/2022 3:13 PM, Gene Warner wrote:Hi everyone!
I need to securely wipe the content from three external hard drives that
I am going to give to my brother. Is there a drive wiping utility that
will wipe the entire drive that is accessible with JAWS?
Thanks!
Gene...
If you did inadvertanly/accidentally format a drive by mistake, as long as you do not write any fresh data to the freshly formatted device, you could use software, such as Disk Genius, to try and recover the data and copy it to another drive, although, trying to recover data from an SSD, is very much hit and miss.
Dave
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 2:59 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?
I stand corrected then. I was always under the impression that if I formatted a drive on accident, I would be screwed, that my data would be lost.
On 11/13/2022 7:39 PM, Dave Durber wrote:Marty:
Formatting a drive, does not erase any information which was Previously stored on the drive before it was formatted. There are a number of software data programs, which have the capability to recover data, even though a drive/sd card/memory stick has been formatted. The only way to ensure any and all data is erased from any storage medium, is to use a specific program or, a program which has the function, to perform a low-level format for the specific storage medium, which erases all format information and data from anSSD, HDD, SD card or memory stick.
Dave
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?Can you just plug in the drive, go to Desktop and go to This PC. Arrow down to your drive and hit the Application or Context menu and arrow down to Format and hit Enter. This should wipe everything off of the drive.
On 11/13/2022 3:13 PM, Gene Warner wrote:Hi everyone!
I need to securely wipe the content from three external hard drives that I am going to give to my brother. Is there a drive wiping utility that will wipe the entire drive that is accessible with JAWS?
Thanks!
Gene...
You can do a full format, overwriting sectors as many times as you want, using the command line format tool and the /p switch. Not 100% certain this works on SSD drives as I've never had occasion to format my drive, but it should.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: November 13, 2022 08:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?
Marty:
Formatting a drive, does not erase any information which was Previously stored on the drive before it was formatted. There are a number of software data programs, which have the capability to recover data, even though a drive/sd card/memory stick has been formatted. The only way to ensure any and all data is erased from any storage medium, is to use a specific program or, a program which has the function, to perform a low-level format for the specific storage medium, which erases all format information and data from anSSD, HDD, SD card or memory stick.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?
Can you just plug in the drive, go to Desktop and go to This PC. Arrow
down to your drive and hit the Application or Context menu and arrow down
to Format and hit Enter. This should wipe everything off of the drive.
On 11/13/2022 3:13 PM, Gene Warner wrote:Hi everyone!
I need to securely wipe the content from three external hard drives that
I am going to give to my brother. Is there a drive wiping utility that
will wipe the entire drive that is accessible with JAWS?
Thanks!
Gene...
Gene...
Hey all.
You can do a full format, overwriting sectors as many times as you want, using the command line format tool and the /p switch. Not 100% certain this works on SSD drives as I've never had occasion to format my drive, but it should.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: November 13, 2022 08:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?
Marty:
Formatting a drive, does not erase any information which was Previously stored on the drive before it was formatted. There are a number of software data programs, which have the capability to recover data, even though a drive/sd card/memory stick has been formatted. The only way to ensure any and all data is erased from any storage medium, is to use a specific program or, a program which has the function, to perform a low-level format for the specific storage medium, which erases all format information and data from anSSD, HDD, SD card or memory stick.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible drive utility?Can you just plug in the drive, go to Desktop and go to This PC. Arrow
down to your drive and hit the Application or Context menu and arrow down
to Format and hit Enter. This should wipe everything off of the drive.
On 11/13/2022 3:13 PM, Gene Warner wrote:Hi everyone!
I need to securely wipe the content from three external hard drives that
I am going to give to my brother. Is there a drive wiping utility that
will wipe the entire drive that is accessible with JAWS?
Thanks!
Gene...