Moderated JAWS Won't Read Windows 10 Settings Window
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andy.tidwell
Hello those of you that can’t use windows settings with Jaws, try this and it works. Press the windows key plus the letter I to get in to windows settings then tab once and then press the insert key plus the letter z and then you can up and down or the left and right arrows to go through settings normally. Just remember you must do this every time you go in to settings.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 5:44 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS Won't Read Windows 10 Settings Window
I think that the NVDA addon Windows App essentials apparently helps in the Settings screen with NVDA.
I know that the different cursors – touch etc available in Jaws are supposed to help in the settings screen but I also find it difficult sometimes. David Griffith
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From: Ann Byrne
I have seen this. I use NVDA with windows settings because JAWS won't read. At 04:21 AM 4/4/2023, you wrote: > >Annabell: > >Do you have the Restore function, turned on in >Windows 10, by default, this function is not >enabled in Windows 10 when a fresh install of Windows 10 is installed. > >Dave > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:foristnights@...>Annabelle Susan Morison >To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io >Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 3:11 PM >Subject: Re: JAWS Won't Read Windows 10 Settings Window > >I know how to use JAWS, as it reads most >everything I navigate. For example, it reads the >"Control Panel" in Windows 10 just fine, but the >"Settings" window and "Start Menu" are no longer >being recognized. They were recognized before, >until a Windows update broke them. >>On 01/08/2023 4:23 AM Ashleigh Piccinino >><<mailto:apiccinino@...>apiccinino@...> wrote: >> >> >>Annabelle: if you would like to learn how to >>use jaws: please contact 417-331-2112. You can >>also get information from the jaws help topics. >> >>Get <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>Outlook for iOS >> >>---------- >>From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> >>on behalf of TJ McElroy gMail <mcelroy.tj@...> >>Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 2:41:27 AM >>To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> >>Subject: Re: JAWS Won't Read Windows 10 Settings Window >> >>Hi Annabelle, >> >>I think you should try and read a tutorial on how to use Jaws with Windows. >> >>Here is a free tutorial that will cover the >>basics of how to use Jaws, NVDA and Narrator with Windows. >> >>THE WINDOWS SCREEN READER PRIMER: ALL THE BASICS AND MORE >>## >>The Windows Screen Reader Primer: All the >>Basics and More is a new digital book to help >>JAWS, NVDA, and Windows Narrator users to work more effectively >>with the most important PC applications-like >>Microsoft Office, email clients, and web >>browsers. These applications include the Windows operating system, >>the four primary Office Suite applications >>(Word, Outlook, Excel and PowerPoint), and the >>three most commonly used web browsers (Google Chrome, Microsoft >>Edge, and Mozilla Firefox). Dropbox and >>OneDrive, two popular Cloud-based file-sharing >>programs, are also covered. So too is Adobe Acrobat Reader for accessing >>PDF files. A glossary with over 100 definitions >>of computer-related terms and a set of practice >>exercises are also included. The book is intended for both >>beginners and intermediate users. While all the >>basics are covered, those already possessing a >>fair amount of experience using screen reader programs in >>the Windows environment will find useful tools >>and techniques to enhance their skills further. >>## >> >>Thank you - The Carroll Center for the Blind >><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcarroll.org%2Fthe-windows-screen-reader-primer%2Fthank-you%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C13270223024145062d6608daf121d97e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638087424939891081%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Kmg%2B%2BezS4ESkFNuBFvsWVZpu68hgUapc%2BwRfPMUm1Bk%3D&reserved=0>https://carroll.org/the-windows-screen-reader-primer/thank-you/ >> >>( once there look for the download link) >>( Download The Windows Screen Reader Primer: >>All the Basics and More in Microsoft word format here ) >>( it is after the form data, you do not have to >>fill out the form to download the .zip file ) >> >>hth, >> >>TJ >> >> >>On 1/7/2023 4:10 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote: >>>I tried that, but all I hear is "Search", >>>(Type In Text)". Then when I arrow down, all I >>>hear is "Start", (Type In Text). Then when I >>>tab over from "Start", I hear nothing. What happened, I wonder? >>>>On 01/07/2023 12:21 PM TJ McElroy gMail >>>><mailto:mcelroy.tj@...><mcelroy.tj@...> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>Hi Annabelle, >>>> >>>>I am not having any trouble accessing the start menu using Jaws. >>>> >>>>Here is how I access the start menu: >>>> >>>>Press the windows key, Jaws will say: search box edit >>>> >>>>down arrow Jaws will say: All Apps ( mine says checked ) >>>> >>>>keep down arrowing Jaws will say >>>>your most used apps example: Notepad, Thunderbird, Jaws >>>> >>>>keep down arrowing Jaws will say >>>> >>>>the first start menu option that begins with >>>>a number, example 3d viewer, 7-zip >>>> >>>>once you have cursored down past all of the >>>>start menu options that begin with a number, >>>>Jaws will start listing the menu options that begin with the letter, A >>>>then the ones starting with the letter, B >>>>and so on. >>>> >>>>At this point I must apologize, I do not >>>>remember how the start menu was displayed in >>>>Windows 7, however the start menu in Windows >>>>10 and Windows 11 are very usable and well spoken by Jaws. >>>> >>>>hth, >>>> >>>>TJ >>>> >>>> >>>>On 1/7/2023 2:51 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote: >>>>>What about the thing with the start menu not >>>>>reading with JAWS but reading with Narrator. >>>>>>On 01/07/2023 11:45 AM TJ McElroy gMail >>>>>><mailto:mcelroy.tj@...><mcelroy.tj@...> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Hi Annabelle, >>>>>> >>>>>>When accessing the setting menu using >>>>>> >>>>>>windows + i >>>>>> >>>>>>option, a search box first appears. >>>>>> >>>>>>I rarely use the search box, instead if you >>>>>>tab once, you will be in a list view. >>>>>> >>>>>>You may be able to change the list view, >>>>>>however if you do not change it, you can >>>>>>cursor left and right, up and down >>>>>>selecting different options, similar to when in the control panel. >>>>>> >>>>>>When you find the option you want, hit >>>>>>enter on it, then tab to select the different settings. >>>>>> >>>>>>#caveat: once you hit enter on a selected >>>>>>option, some options have a selection list >>>>>>that you can refine or choose different options. >>>>>> >>>>>>navigate this list by cursoring up and down >>>>>>then once on your selected option, hit enter, then tab to choose other options. >>>>>> >>>>>>an example would be choosing >>>>>>personalization options from the main list view. >>>>>> >>>>>>this will bring up a list view to cursor up >>>>>>and down on to refine your personalization option, >>>>>>hit enter on your choice then tab to choose your chosen option, >>>>>>once you have tabbed to an option, hit >>>>>>enter and you have selected that option >>>>>> >>>>>>again, it is similar to the control panel. >>>>>>I am not saying it is better,, but it is usable. >>>>>> >>>>>>hth, >>>>>> >>>>>>TJ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>On 1/7/2023 2:20 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote: >>>>>>>Hey TJ! >>>>>>>By the way, I know somebody named TJ. He >>>>>>>was a classmate of mine in Audio >>>>>>>Engineering back in 2009 at Lane Community >>>>>>>College in Eugene, Oregon. I use both of >>>>>>>those commands you mentioned. JAWS reads >>>>>>>the Control Panel just fine, but it's the >>>>>>>new fangled Settings window that JAWS >>>>>>>can't seem to read. Why did Microsoft have >>>>>>>to switch out the Control Panel for >>>>>>>something that JAWS can't read? Same thing with the Start Menu. >>>>>>>>On 01/07/2023 11:10 AM TJ McElroy gMail >>>>>>>><mailto:mcelroy.tj@...><mcelroy.tj@...> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hi Annabelle, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>How are you accessing the setting options? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>For instance, I usually use the: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>windows key + I >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>to access the settings options, however I >>>>>>>>still use the control panel every now and then. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>TJ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On 1/6/2023 4:25 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote: >>>>>>>>>It was reading them fine before Windows started updating. >>>>>>>>>>On 01/06/2023 12:47 PM Brian Vogel >>>>>>>>>><mailto:britechguy@...><britechguy@...> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Regardless of these issues, you really >>>>>>>>>>need to let Windows 10 update. Any >>>>>>>>>>version of Windows that is under >>>>>>>>>>Windows as a Service, that is 10 and 11 for sure, must be allowed to update. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>The 22H2 feature update was quite >>>>>>>>>>trivial. While it may have triggered a >>>>>>>>>>latent problem, it almost certainly >>>>>>>>>>didn't cause it, and your having done a >>>>>>>>>>"nuke and pave" by clean reinstalling >>>>>>>>>>Windows 10 means it's an ideal time to >>>>>>>>>>update with the cleanest baseline possible. >>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, >>>>>>>>>>64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; >>>>>>>>>>Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Itâs not lack of contact with the >>>>>>>>>>world off campus that leads to the >>>>>>>>>>liberal views common in academia >>>>>>>>>>itâs being ttrained to think >>>>>>>>>>critically and practicing this craft >>>>>>>>>>daily as we look at the world around us >>>>>>>>>>that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; >>>>>>>>>> New York Times, >>>>>>>>>> Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022 >
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David Griffith
I think that the NVDA addon Windows App essentials apparently helps in the Settings screen with NVDA.
I know that the different cursors – touch etc available in Jaws are supposed to help in the settings screen but I also find it difficult sometimes. David Griffith
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From: Ann Byrne
Sent: 04 April 2023 21:07 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS Won't Read Windows 10 Settings Window
I have seen this. I use NVDA with windows settings because JAWS won't read. At 04:21 AM 4/4/2023, you wrote: > >Annabell: > >Do you have the Restore function, turned on in >Windows 10, by default, this function is not >enabled in Windows 10 when a fresh install of Windows 10 is installed. > >Dave > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:foristnights@...>Annabelle Susan Morison >To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io >Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 3:11 PM >Subject: Re: JAWS Won't Read Windows 10 Settings Window > >I know how to use JAWS, as it reads most >everything I navigate. For example, it reads the >"Control Panel" in Windows 10 just fine, but the >"Settings" window and "Start Menu" are no longer >being recognized. They were recognized before, >until a Windows update broke them. >>On 01/08/2023 4:23 AM Ashleigh Piccinino >><<mailto:apiccinino@...>apiccinino@...> wrote: >> >> >>Annabelle: if you would like to learn how to >>use jaws: please contact 417-331-2112. You can >>also get information from the jaws help topics. >> >>Get <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>Outlook for iOS >> >>---------- >>From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> >>on behalf of TJ McElroy gMail <mcelroy.tj@...> >>Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 2:41:27 AM >>To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> >>Subject: Re: JAWS Won't Read Windows 10 Settings Window >> >>Hi Annabelle, >> >>I think you should try and read a tutorial on how to use Jaws with Windows. >> >>Here is a free tutorial that will cover the >>basics of how to use Jaws, NVDA and Narrator with Windows. >> >>THE WINDOWS SCREEN READER PRIMER: ALL THE BASICS AND MORE >>## >>The Windows Screen Reader Primer: All the >>Basics and More is a new digital book to help >>JAWS, NVDA, and Windows Narrator users to work more effectively >>with the most important PC applications-like >>Microsoft Office, email clients, and web >>browsers. These applications include the Windows operating system, >>the four primary Office Suite applications >>(Word, Outlook, Excel and PowerPoint), and the >>three most commonly used web browsers (Google Chrome, Microsoft >>Edge, and Mozilla Firefox). Dropbox and >>OneDrive, two popular Cloud-based file-sharing >>programs, are also covered. So too is Adobe Acrobat Reader for accessing >>PDF files. A glossary with over 100 definitions >>of computer-related terms and a set of practice >>exercises are also included. The book is intended for both >>beginners and intermediate users. While all the >>basics are covered, those already possessing a >>fair amount of experience using screen reader programs in >>the Windows environment will find useful tools >>and techniques to enhance their skills further. >>## >> >>Thank you - The Carroll Center for the Blind >><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcarroll.org%2Fthe-windows-screen-reader-primer%2Fthank-you%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C13270223024145062d6608daf121d97e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638087424939891081%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Kmg%2B%2BezS4ESkFNuBFvsWVZpu68hgUapc%2BwRfPMUm1Bk%3D&reserved=0>https://carroll.org/the-windows-screen-reader-primer/thank-you/ >> >>( once there look for the download link) >>( Download The Windows Screen Reader Primer: >>All the Basics and More in Microsoft word format here ) >>( it is after the form data, you do not have to >>fill out the form to download the .zip file ) >> >>hth, >> >>TJ >> >> >>On 1/7/2023 4:10 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote: >>>I tried that, but all I hear is "Search", >>>(Type In Text)". Then when I arrow down, all I >>>hear is "Start", (Type In Text). Then when I >>>tab over from "Start", I hear nothing. What happened, I wonder? >>>>On 01/07/2023 12:21 PM TJ McElroy gMail >>>><mailto:mcelroy.tj@...><mcelroy.tj@...> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>Hi Annabelle, >>>> >>>>I am not having any trouble accessing the start menu using Jaws. >>>> >>>>Here is how I access the start menu: >>>> >>>>Press the windows key, Jaws will say: search box edit >>>> >>>>down arrow Jaws will say: All Apps ( mine says checked ) >>>> >>>>keep down arrowing Jaws will say >>>>your most used apps example: Notepad, Thunderbird, Jaws >>>> >>>>keep down arrowing Jaws will say >>>> >>>>the first start menu option that begins with >>>>a number, example 3d viewer, 7-zip >>>> >>>>once you have cursored down past all of the >>>>start menu options that begin with a number, >>>>Jaws will start listing the menu options that begin with the letter, A >>>>then the ones starting with the letter, B >>>>and so on. >>>> >>>>At this point I must apologize, I do not >>>>remember how the start menu was displayed in >>>>Windows 7, however the start menu in Windows >>>>10 and Windows 11 are very usable and well spoken by Jaws. >>>> >>>>hth, >>>> >>>>TJ >>>> >>>> >>>>On 1/7/2023 2:51 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote: >>>>>What about the thing with the start menu not >>>>>reading with JAWS but reading with Narrator. >>>>>>On 01/07/2023 11:45 AM TJ McElroy gMail >>>>>><mailto:mcelroy.tj@...><mcelroy.tj@...> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Hi Annabelle, >>>>>> >>>>>>When accessing the setting menu using >>>>>> >>>>>>windows + i >>>>>> >>>>>>option, a search box first appears. >>>>>> >>>>>>I rarely use the search box, instead if you >>>>>>tab once, you will be in a list view. >>>>>> >>>>>>You may be able to change the list view, >>>>>>however if you do not change it, you can >>>>>>cursor left and right, up and down >>>>>>selecting different options, similar to when in the control panel. >>>>>> >>>>>>When you find the option you want, hit >>>>>>enter on it, then tab to select the different settings. >>>>>> >>>>>>#caveat: once you hit enter on a selected >>>>>>option, some options have a selection list >>>>>>that you can refine or choose different options. >>>>>> >>>>>>navigate this list by cursoring up and down >>>>>>then once on your selected option, hit enter, then tab to choose other options. >>>>>> >>>>>>an example would be choosing >>>>>>personalization options from the main list view. >>>>>> >>>>>>this will bring up a list view to cursor up >>>>>>and down on to refine your personalization option, >>>>>>hit enter on your choice then tab to choose your chosen option, >>>>>>once you have tabbed to an option, hit >>>>>>enter and you have selected that option >>>>>> >>>>>>again, it is similar to the control panel. >>>>>>I am not saying it is better,, but it is usable. >>>>>> >>>>>>hth, >>>>>> >>>>>>TJ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>On 1/7/2023 2:20 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote: >>>>>>>Hey TJ! >>>>>>>By the way, I know somebody named TJ. He >>>>>>>was a classmate of mine in Audio >>>>>>>Engineering back in 2009 at Lane Community >>>>>>>College in Eugene, Oregon. I use both of >>>>>>>those commands you mentioned. JAWS reads >>>>>>>the Control Panel just fine, but it's the >>>>>>>new fangled Settings window that JAWS >>>>>>>can't seem to read. Why did Microsoft have >>>>>>>to switch out the Control Panel for >>>>>>>something that JAWS can't read? Same thing with the Start Menu. >>>>>>>>On 01/07/2023 11:10 AM TJ McElroy gMail >>>>>>>><mailto:mcelroy.tj@...><mcelroy.tj@...> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hi Annabelle, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>How are you accessing the setting options? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>For instance, I usually use the: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>windows key + I >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>to access the settings options, however I >>>>>>>>still use the control panel every now and then. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>TJ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On 1/6/2023 4:25 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote: >>>>>>>>>It was reading them fine before Windows started updating. >>>>>>>>>>On 01/06/2023 12:47 PM Brian Vogel >>>>>>>>>><mailto:britechguy@...><britechguy@...> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Regardless of these issues, you really >>>>>>>>>>need to let Windows 10 update. Any >>>>>>>>>>version of Windows that is under >>>>>>>>>>Windows as a Service, that is 10 and 11 for sure, must be allowed to update. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>The 22H2 feature update was quite >>>>>>>>>>trivial. While it may have triggered a >>>>>>>>>>latent problem, it almost certainly >>>>>>>>>>didn't cause it, and your having done a >>>>>>>>>>"nuke and pave" by clean reinstalling >>>>>>>>>>Windows 10 means it's an ideal time to >>>>>>>>>>update with the cleanest baseline possible. >>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, >>>>>>>>>>64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; >>>>>>>>>>Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Itâs not lack of contact with the >>>>>>>>>>world off campus that leads to the >>>>>>>>>>liberal views common in academia >>>>>>>>>>itâs being ttrained to think >>>>>>>>>>critically and practicing this craft >>>>>>>>>>daily as we look at the world around us >>>>>>>>>>that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; >>>>>>>>>> New York Times, >>>>>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2022%2F08%2F20%2Fopinion%2Fletters%2Fcollege-campus-towns.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7C13270223024145062d6608daf121d97e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638087424939891081%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=yEomgBjagEG5vaBj6RVp4ivSraK%2B4xV4LpwMxkBkWRk%3D&reserved=0>Letters, >>>>>>>>>> Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022 >
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Ann Byrne
I have seen this. I use NVDA with windows settings because JAWS won't read.
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Dave Durber
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Annabell:
Do you have the Restore function, turned on in
Windows 10, by default, this function is not enabled in Windows 10 when a fresh
install of Windows 10 is installed.
Dave
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Curtis Chong
Hello Annabelle: So noted. Have a great week. Kindly, Curtis Chong On Jan 8, 2023, at 4:39 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
Hey Curtis!
Susan is my second name (middle name), not part of my given name (first name). You made it sound like "Mary Jane" or "Mary Kate", where both names are often written together. Wouldn't that be amazing if JAWS could be customizeable in all of its parameters? Not just in certain basic parameters, but even advance parameters.
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Curtis Chong
You are most welcome. I’m glad to have been of help. On Jan 8, 2023, at 5:11 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
Hey Curtis!
When I checked the checkbox, even the "Settings" screen is now reading right! Amazing! Thank you! I think I would have lost my ever lovin' mind if I didn't check that setting.
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Annabelle Susan Morison
Hey Curtis!
When I checked the checkbox, even the "Settings" screen is now reading right! Amazing! Thank you! I think I would have lost my ever lovin' mind if I didn't check that setting.
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Ashleigh Piccinino
Please tell the mods to end this thread. It's gone on long enough, and my question was answered. Thank you.
Get Outlook for iOS From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 9:08:44 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: JAWS Won't Read Windows 10 Settings Window On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 04:02 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
I don't appreciate being called "Ms. Morison". I'm not anybody's teacher!- And I don't appreciate how you've clearly been ignoring most of the advice you've been given, a great deal of it very good, Ms. Morison. Deal! You just do not pay careful attention, or virtually any attention to what people offer. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13) It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike. ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022 |
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Annabelle Susan Morison
Hey Curtis!
Susan is my second name (middle name), not part of my given name (first name). You made it sound like "Mary Jane" or "Mary Kate", where both names are often written together. Wouldn't that be amazing if JAWS could be customizeable in all of its parameters? Not just in certain basic parameters, but even advance parameters.
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Maria Campbell
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Curtis Chong
Hello Annabelle Susan:
This article might be of interest. I hope it helps as you figure out how to tailor your Start menu.
I myself just type the app I am looking for in the search box in the Start menu. I do not use the Start menu for much of anything else.😀
I do not know why the default is what it is for the Start Menu Processes. That is something which Vispero decides, not us users.
I’m glad to have been somewhat helpful.
Warmly,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2023 2:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS Won't Read Windows 10 Settings Window
Hey Curtis! I tried checking the checkbox, and now the start menu reads right. Now I'm trying to figure out how to make it show the "All Apps" tab instead of "Pinned Tiles" when I press the Windows key. Also, I wonder, shouldn't that checkbox be checked by default? I'm confused on that one!
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Annabelle Susan Morison
Hey Curtis!
I tried checking the checkbox, and now the start menu reads right. Now I'm trying to figure out how to make it show the "All Apps" tab instead of "Pinned Tiles" when I press the Windows key. Also, I wonder, shouldn't that checkbox be checked by default? I'm confused on that one!
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On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 04:02 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
I don't appreciate being called "Ms. Morison". I'm not anybody's teacher!- And I don't appreciate how you've clearly been ignoring most of the advice you've been given, a great deal of it very good, Ms. Morison. Deal! You just do not pay careful attention, or virtually any attention to what people offer. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13) It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike. ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022 |
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Annabelle Susan Morison
Hey Curtis!
I tried checking the checkbox, and now the start menu reads right. Now I'm trying to figure out how to make it show the "All Apps" tab instead of "Pinned Tiles" when I press the Windows key. Also, I wonder, shouldn't that checkbox be checked by default? I'm confused on that one!
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Annabelle Susan Morison
I don't appreciate being called "Ms. Morison". I'm not anybody's teacher!
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Annabelle Susan Morison
Which JAWS user settings are the ones you're talking about? Are they the dialog box where there are settings like "Typing Echo: Characters and Words"?
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Curtis Chong
Here is a correction and a clarification.
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2023 10:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS Won't Read Windows 10 Settings Window
Hello:
Did you check to see if your Start Menu Out Of Process setting was checked or unchecked? Go into JAWS Settings (JAWSKEY+2), press CTRL+SHIFT+D, search for “start”.
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
I make sure my drivers and stuff are up to date, as best I can. Thread and. ! From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 11:39 AM, Ashleigh Piccinino wrote:
- On any Windows machine running Windows 10 or later, when issues inexplicably present themselves “out of the blue” and with seemingly no reason, these are the two things I recommend doing, in order: 2. Performing a Windows 10 or 11 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows ISO file If #1 fixes the issue, #2 is unnecessary. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13) It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike. ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022Th |
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Curtis Chong
Hello:
Did you check to see if your Start Menu Out Of Process setting was checked or unchecked? Go into JAWS Settings (JAWSKEY+2), press CTRL+SHIFT+D, search for “start”.
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2023 10:44 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS Won't Read Windows 10 Settings Window
I make sure my drivers and stuff are up to date, as best I can. Thread and. ! From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 11:39 AM, Ashleigh Piccinino wrote:
- On any Windows machine running Windows 10 or later, when issues inexplicably present themselves “out of the blue” and with seemingly no reason, these are the two things I recommend doing, in order: 2. Performing a Windows 10 or 11 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows ISO file If #1 fixes the issue, #2 is unnecessary. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13) It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike. ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022Th |
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Ashleigh Piccinino
I make sure my drivers and stuff are up to date, as best I can. Thread and. !
Get Outlook for iOS From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 4:54:52 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: JAWS Won't Read Windows 10 Settings Window On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 11:39 AM, Ashleigh Piccinino wrote:
How do you check for these drivers? - On any Windows machine running Windows 10 or later, when issues inexplicably present themselves “out of the blue” and with seemingly no reason, these are the two things I recommend doing, in order: 2. Performing a Windows 10 or 11 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows ISO file If #1 fixes the issue, #2 is unnecessary. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13) It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike. ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022Th |
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On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 11:46 AM, Curtis Chong wrote:
Have you consulted yet with Vispero Tech Support?- I don't think Ms. Morison has even tried most of the things that have been offered. Something's corrupted on her system, and consulting with Vispero Tech Support and/or Microsoft Windows & Office Accessibility Support would be the wisest course of action. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit; Android 12 (MIUI 13) It’s not lack of contact with the world off campus that leads to the liberal views common in academia — it’s being trained to think critically and practicing this craft daily as we look at the world around us that makes us the libs conservatives so dislike. ~ Eliot A. Brenowitz, Seattle; New York Times, Letters, Tales of Town and Gown: Is the Campus Isolated?, August 20, 2022 |
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