Moderated Spanish punctuation marks
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marilyn
Hello all, I have the key sequences to create the punctuation marks that go over certain letters in Spanish. My question is how do I get the marks above the letter instead of before or after it. Many thanks. Marilyn |
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Curtis Chong
Hello Marilyn:
This depends on what software you are using to type your letters. Are you talking Word/Outlook or some other software?
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of marilyn
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2023 4:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Spanish punctuation marks
Hello all, I have the key sequences to create the punctuation marks that go over certain letters in Spanish. My question is how do I get the marks above the letter instead of before or after it. Many thanks. Marilyn |
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marilyn
Curtis, I am typing using Word and will also be typing in Outlook emails. Thanks. Marilyn
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Curtis Chong
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 5:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Spanish punctuation marks
Hello Marilyn:
This depends on what software you are using to type your letters. Are you talking Word/Outlook or some other software?
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of marilyn
Hello all, I have the key sequences to create the punctuation marks that go over certain letters in Spanish. My question is how do I get the marks above the letter instead of before or after it. Many thanks. Marilyn |
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On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 06:49 PM, marilyn wrote:
I am typing using Word and will also be typing in Outlook emails.- All of the accented character techniques I know of in Word result in an accent being placed over a character (typically the one you've typed immediately after the shortcut to specify the accent mark you want.) Hitting CTRL + `, followed by a letter over which that accent would be appropriate, results in that letter being inserted in Word. This works great if the need is only occasional. If you're writing extensively in a non-English character set it often makes more sense to change your input language under Windows and use the alternate keyboard (which is pretty much an overlay on your existing keyboard) via selecting the language you wish to use. See Settings, Time & Language, Language Pane. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045 If you cannot or will not imagine the results of your actions, there’s no way you can act morally or responsibly. Little kids can’t do it; babies are morally monsters — completely greedy. Their imagination has to be trained into foresight and empathy. ~ Ursula LeGuin, 2005 Interview in The Guardian |
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Curtis Chong
Hello Marilyn:
Assuming Word or (in Outlook) a message in the HTML format, you can press Control with the Apostrophe immediately followed by the letter you want to accent. This places an acute mark on the letter.
From the website: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/keyboard-shortcuts-to-add-language-accent-marks-in-word-and-outlook-3801b103-6a8d-42a5-b8ba-fdc3774cfc76:
Keyboard shortcuts to add language accent marks in Word and OutlookWord for Microsoft 365 Outlook for Microsoft 365 Word 2021 Outlook 2021 More... In Word and Outlook, you can use accent marks (or diacritical marks) in a document, such as an acute accent, cedilla, circumflex, diaeresis or umlaut, grave accent, or tilde. § For keyboard shortcuts in which you press two or more keys simultaneously, the keys to press are separated by a plus sign (+) in the tables. For example, to type a copyright symbol © , hold down the Alt key and type 0169. § For keyboard shortcuts in which you press one key immediately followed by another key, the keys to press are separated by a comma (,). For example, for è you would press Ctrl + ` , release and then type e. § To type a lowercase character by using a key combination that includes the SHIFT key, hold down the CTRL+SHIFT+symbol keys simultaneously, and then release them before you type the letter. For example, to type a ô, hold down CTRL, SHIFT and ^, release and type o.
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of marilyn
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2023 4:50 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Spanish punctuation marks
Curtis, I am typing using Word and will also be typing in Outlook emails. Thanks. Marilyn
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Hello Marilyn:
This depends on what software you are using to type your letters. Are you talking Word/Outlook or some other software?
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of marilyn
Hello all, I have the key sequences to create the punctuation marks that go over certain letters in Spanish. My question is how do I get the marks above the letter instead of before or after it. Many thanks. Marilyn |
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Mike B.
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Hi Brian,
I tried pressing, Control + `, then
typing the letter,e, and all I got was, e`.
This is in Word 2016 Pro and 2021 Pro
I typed, control + ', and then typed the letter,e, and I
did get, é, in both versions of Word.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2023 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Spanish punctuation marks I am typing using Word and will also be typing in Outlook emails.- All of the accented character techniques I know of in Word result in an accent being placed over a character (typically the one you've typed immediately after the shortcut to specify the accent mark you want.) Hitting CTRL + `, followed by a letter over which that accent would be appropriate, results in that letter being inserted in Word. This works great if the need is only occasional. If you're writing extensively in a non-English character set it often makes more sense to change your input language under Windows and use the alternate keyboard (which is pretty much an overlay on your existing keyboard) via selecting the language you wish to use. See Settings, Time & Language, Language Pane. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build
19045 If you cannot or will not imagine the results of your actions, there’s no way you can act morally or responsibly. Little kids can’t do it; babies are morally monsters — completely greedy. Their imagination has to be trained into foresight and empathy. ~ Ursula LeGuin, 2005 Interview in The Guardian |
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marilyn
Hello Brian and Curtis, Thank you so much for all the information. I will work through it all step by step and let you know if I encounter problems. Marilyn From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Curtis Chong
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 7:29 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Spanish punctuation marks
Hello Marilyn:
Assuming Word or (in Outlook) a message in the HTML format, you can press Control with the Apostrophe immediately followed by the letter you want to accent. This places an acute mark on the letter.
From the website: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/keyboard-shortcuts-to-add-language-accent-marks-in-word-and-outlook-3801b103-6a8d-42a5-b8ba-fdc3774cfc76:
Keyboard shortcuts to add language accent marks in Word and OutlookWord for Microsoft 365 Outlook for Microsoft 365 Word 2021 Outlook 2021 More... In Word and Outlook, you can use accent marks (or diacritical marks) in a document, such as an acute accent, cedilla, circumflex, diaeresis or umlaut, grave accent, or tilde. § For keyboard shortcuts in which you press two or more keys simultaneously, the keys to press are separated by a plus sign (+) in the tables. For example, to type a copyright symbol © , hold down the Alt key and type 0169. § For keyboard shortcuts in which you press one key immediately followed by another key, the keys to press are separated by a comma (,). For example, for è you would press Ctrl + ` , release and then type e. § To type a lowercase character by using a key combination that includes the SHIFT key, hold down the CTRL+SHIFT+symbol keys simultaneously, and then release them before you type the letter. For example, to type a ô, hold down CTRL, SHIFT and ^, release and type o.
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of marilyn
Curtis, I am typing using Word and will also be typing in Outlook emails. Thanks. Marilyn
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Hello Marilyn:
This depends on what software you are using to type your letters. Are you talking Word/Outlook or some other software?
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of marilyn
Hello all, I have the key sequences to create the punctuation marks that go over certain letters in Spanish. My question is how do I get the marks above the letter instead of before or after it. Many thanks. Marilyn |
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Mike B.
Hi Marilyn,
You can also press, Insert + 4, on the number row
to open the symbols list which has all the Spanish accented letters in
upper and lower case plus many more symbols. Just highlight the character
you want inserted into your file, where you wanted inserted, and press enter to
have that character pasted right there.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message -----
From: marilyn
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2023 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Spanish punctuation marks Curtis, I am typing using Word and will also be typing in Outlook emails. Thanks. Marilyn
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Curtis Chong
Hello Marilyn:
This depends on what software you are using to type your letters. Are you talking Word/Outlook or some other software?
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
marilyn
Hello all, I have the key sequences to create the punctuation marks that go over certain letters in Spanish. My question is how do I get the marks above the letter instead of before or after it. Many thanks. Marilyn |
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On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 08:40 PM, Mike B. wrote:
I tried pressing, Control + `, then typing the letter,e, and all I got was, e`.- I have no idea why that would be. Mr. Chong has kindly supplied the full set of shortcuts for the most common accented characters, and if you want vowels with an accent grave, CTRL + `, followed by vowel should produce that vowel with an accent grave above it. You've found that with apostrophe, you get an accent acute above the vowel. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045 If you cannot or will not imagine the results of your actions, there’s no way you can act morally or responsibly. Little kids can’t do it; babies are morally monsters — completely greedy. Their imagination has to be trained into foresight and empathy. ~ Ursula LeGuin, 2005 Interview in The Guardian |
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Guillo Zárate
Hello all. To ve precise, in spanish there are no grave accents. Only acute. I use JAWS in that language as my native one. Take good care, Guillermo ***
El 2/01/2023 a las 8:57 p. m., Brian
Vogel escribió:
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On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 08:56 PM, Mike B. wrote:
You can also press, Insert + 4, on the number row to open the symbols list- Mike, What screen reader are you using when you do this? If I hit INS + NumRow 4 with no screen reader active, I just get a number 4 in a Word document. This strongly suggests that you're dealing with a screen reader supported feature, not a Windows or Word one, and even the use of the INSert modifier key suggests that. Since I also don't get the symbols list coming up using INS + NumRow 4 with NVDA, I'm presuming JAWS. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045 If you cannot or will not imagine the results of your actions, there’s no way you can act morally or responsibly. Little kids can’t do it; babies are morally monsters — completely greedy. Their imagination has to be trained into foresight and empathy. ~ Ursula LeGuin, 2005 Interview in The Guardian |
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Mike B.
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Hi Brian,
This is with Jaws. I posted that assuming
the person asking was using Jaws. The, Insert + 4, on the number row does
not work with NVDA.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2023 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: Spanish punctuation marks You can also press, Insert + 4, on the number row to open the symbols list- Mike, What screen reader are you using when you do this? If I hit INS + NumRow 4 with no screen reader active, I just get a number 4 in a Word document. This strongly suggests that you're dealing with a screen reader supported feature, not a Windows or Word one, and even the use of the INSert modifier key suggests that. Since I also don't get the symbols list coming up using INS + NumRow 4 with NVDA, I'm presuming JAWS. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build
19045 If you cannot or will not imagine the results of your actions, there’s no way you can act morally or responsibly. Little kids can’t do it; babies are morally monsters — completely greedy. Their imagination has to be trained into foresight and empathy. ~ Ursula LeGuin, 2005 Interview in The Guardian |
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On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 12:12 PM, Mike B. wrote:
I posted that assuming the person asking was using Jaws.- Which makes perfect sense. I am jumping between groups so often during the day that I fail to double check which one I'm viewing at certain times. Also certain groups are tightly constrained to their core topic, but this one is not. I probably thought I was posting to the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group when I asked that question. My apologies. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045 If you cannot or will not imagine the results of your actions, there’s no way you can act morally or responsibly. Little kids can’t do it; babies are morally monsters — completely greedy. Their imagination has to be trained into foresight and empathy. ~ Ursula LeGuin, 2005 Interview in The Guardian |
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Mike B.
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Brian,
There are certainly no apologies necessary.
I know what you mean whem you speak about jumping between groups.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2023 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: Spanish punctuation marks I posted that assuming the person asking was using Jaws.- Which makes perfect sense. I am jumping between groups so often during the day that I fail to double check which one I'm viewing at certain times. Also certain groups are tightly constrained to their core topic, but this one is not. I probably thought I was posting to the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group when I asked that question. My apologies. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build
19045 If you cannot or will not imagine the results of your actions, there’s no way you can act morally or responsibly. Little kids can’t do it; babies are morally monsters — completely greedy. Their imagination has to be trained into foresight and empathy. ~ Ursula LeGuin, 2005 Interview in The Guardian |
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