Thank you so much Gerald for sharing!  For the first time since I signed up for Informed Delivery, I finally had success.  Before, I’m pretty sure I only tried accessing the information from within the message in Outlook, but my memory isn’t great, so who knows maybe I did try via the website.  Even though I didn’t know about content, I chose to keep getting alerts as it notified me mail was expected and I could take the long walk to retrieve.

Anyway, on my Windows 10 laptop with current versions of everything including JAWS & Chrome, I had to add a couple of steps that you didn’t mention.  For example, after signing in, the find command couldn’t find “scan”;  I had to do a couple of things before searching for “scan”.  Also, when in the Picture Smart process, it was necessary to click on “more” to get the description.

Yes, the US Postal Service, in its infinite wisdom, decided to eliminate the scanned images of each piece of mail from the informed delivery message.  You must now click on the mail dashboard link in the message to access the Informed Delivery site and log in to your account in order to use JAWS Picture Smart.  Once you have logged in, use the JAWS Find command, Control-F for the word ,"scan" to locate each occurrence of "scanned image of your mail piece", and for each occurrence, press JAWS key, Space bar, followed by P, then C to invoke Picture Smart and have JAWS read the text on the mail piece 

Gerald

I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart there.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question

Yes, the US Postal Service, in its infinite wisdom, decided to eliminate the scanned images of each piece of mail from the informed delivery message.  You must now click on the mail dashboard link in the message to access the Informed Delivery site and log in to your account in order to use JAWS Picture Smart.  Once you have logged in, use the JAWS Find command, Control-F for the word ,"scan" to locate each occurrence of "scanned image of your mail piece", and for each occurrence, press JAWS key, Space bar, followed by P, then C to invoke Picture Smart and have JAWS read the text on the mail piece 

Gerald

I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart there.

I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a
bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses
the camera, such as Seeing AI?
Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too.
But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so
called smart devices.
Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use
Seeing AI.

Happy holidays!
Gene...


On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote:

I didn't know that they did this.
I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail.
I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes.
I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down
the home button and say
open seeing AI
and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed
at.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they
were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I
consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are
no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way
that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email.

So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the
services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about
it but don't really expect them to do anything about it.

Gene...


On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote:

I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for
the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would
read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a
scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read.
Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something
with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart
there.

I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a
bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses
the camera, such as Seeing AI?
Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too.
But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so
called smart devices.
Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use
Seeing AI.

Happy holidays!
Gene...


On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote:

I didn't know that they did this.
I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail.
I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes.
I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down
the home button and say
open seeing AI
and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed
at.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they
were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I
consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are
no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way
that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email.

So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the
services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about
it but don't really expect them to do anything about it.

Gene...


On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote:

I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for
the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would
read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a
scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read.
Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something
with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart
there.

I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a
bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses
the camera, such as Seeing AI?
Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too.
But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so
called smart devices.
Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use
Seeing AI.

Happy holidays!
Gene...


On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote:

I didn't know that they did this.
I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail.
I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes.
I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down
the home button and say
open seeing AI
and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed
at.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they
were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I
consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are
no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way
that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email.

So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the
services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about
it but don't really expect them to do anything about it.

Gene...


On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote:

I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for
the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would
read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a
scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read.
Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something
with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart
there.

I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a
bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses
the camera, such as Seeing AI?
Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too.
But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so
called smart devices.
Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use
Seeing AI.

Happy holidays!
Gene...


On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote:

I didn't know that they did this.
I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail.
I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes.
I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down
the home button and say
open seeing AI
and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed
at.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they
were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I
consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are
no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way
that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email.

So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the
services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about
it but don't really expect them to do anything about it.

Gene...


On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote:

I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for
the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would
read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a
scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read.
Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something
with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart
there.

I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a
bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses
the camera, such as Seeing AI?
Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too.
But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so
called smart devices.
Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use
Seeing AI.

Happy holidays!
Gene...


On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote:

I didn't know that they did this.
I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail.
I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes.
I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down
the home button and say
open seeing AI
and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed
at.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they
were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I
consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are
no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way
that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email.

So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the
services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about
it but don't really expect them to do anything about it.

Gene...


On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote:

I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for
the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would
read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a
scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read.
Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something
with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart
there.

I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a
bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses
the camera, such as Seeing AI?
Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too.
But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so
called smart devices.
Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use
Seeing AI.

Happy holidays!
Gene...


On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote:

I didn't know that they did this.
I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail.
I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes.
I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down
the home button and say
open seeing AI
and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed
at.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they
were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I
consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are
no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way
that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email.

So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the
services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about
it but don't really expect them to do anything about it.

Gene...


On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote:

I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for
the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would
read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a
scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read.
Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something
with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart
there.

I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a
bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses
the camera, such as Seeing AI?
Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too.
But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so
called smart devices.
Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use
Seeing AI.

Happy holidays!
Gene...


On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote:

I didn't know that they did this.
I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail.
I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes.
I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down
the home button and say
open seeing AI
and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed
at.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they
were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I
consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are
no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way
that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email.

So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the
services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about
it but don't really expect them to do anything about it.

Gene...


On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote:

I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for
the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would
read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a
scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read.
Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something
with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart
there.

I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a
bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses
the camera, such as Seeing AI?
Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too.
But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so
called smart devices.
Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use
Seeing AI.

Happy holidays!
Gene...


On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote:

I didn't know that they did this.
I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail.
I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes.
I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down
the home button and say
open seeing AI
and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed
at.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they
were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I
consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are
no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way
that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email.

So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the
services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about
it but don't really expect them to do anything about it.

Gene...


On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote:

I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for
the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would
read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a
scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read.
Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something
with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart
there.

I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a
bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses
the camera, such as Seeing AI?
Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too.
But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so
called smart devices.
Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use
Seeing AI.

Happy holidays!
Gene...


On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote:

I didn't know that they did this.
I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail.
I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes.
I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down
the home button and say
open seeing AI
and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed
at.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they
were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I
consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are
no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way
that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email.

So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the
services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about
it but don't really expect them to do anything about it.

Gene...


On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote:

I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for
the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would
read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a
scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read.
Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something
with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart
there.

I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a
bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses
the camera, such as Seeing AI?
Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too.
But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so
called smart devices.
Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use
Seeing AI.

Happy holidays!
Gene...


On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote:

I didn't know that they did this.
I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail.
I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes.
I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down
the home button and say
open seeing AI
and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed
at.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they
were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I
consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are
no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way
that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email.

So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the
services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about
it but don't really expect them to do anything about it.

Gene...


On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote:

I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for
the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would
read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a
scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read.
Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something
with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart
there.

Well Gene,
I could say what does informed delivery have to do with Jaws?
Other than Jaws OCR is involved, which is not the problem with accessing it.
Besides, you can use Jaws to access the playstore or app store to install 
Seeing AI to your device.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


What is this fixation on Seeing AI and what does it have to do with the
Post Office's Informed Delivery service?

Happy holidays!
Gene...


On 12/22/2022 12:09 PM, K0LNY wrote:

I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a
bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses
the camera, such as Seeing AI?
Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too.
But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so
called smart devices.
Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use
Seeing AI.

Happy holidays!
Gene...


On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote:

I didn't know that they did this.
I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail.
I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes.
I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down
the home button and say
open seeing AI
and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed
at.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they
were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I
consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are
no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way
that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email.

So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the
services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about
it but don't really expect them to do anything about it.

Gene...


On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote:

I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for
the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would
read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a
scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read.
Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something
with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart
there.

Gene,
What does that have to do with Jaws?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Personally, I think it should be up to the customer whether they want
the scanned images emailed to them or not. I might be blind, but I do
not think that that means that I am no longer capable of making such
decisions for myself.

Happy holidays!
Gene...


On 12/22/2022 12:11 PM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:

The Postal Service didn't break anything. For security reasons, they
decided to eliminate the scanned images from the Informed Delivery
message and instead require customers to sign in to their Accounts to
view them on the Informed Delivery web site.


Gerald



On 12/22/2022 12:07 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:

Nope, you didn't break anything; they did. It's been like this for
almost two weeks. Funny though, those images show up when I read the
same emails with Mail on iOS. Wonder how they broke this. Sure wish
they'd fix it.


On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote:

I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for
the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would
read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of
a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot
read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just
something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use
picture smart there.

Gene,
What does that have to do with Jaws?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question
Personally, I think it should be up to the customer whether they want
the scanned images emailed to them or not. I might be blind, but I do
not think that that means that I am no longer capable of making such
decisions for myself.
Happy holidays!
Gene...
On 12/22/2022 12:11 PM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:

The Postal Service didn't break anything. For security reasons, they
decided to eliminate the scanned images from the Informed Delivery
message and instead require customers to sign in to their Accounts to
view them on the Informed Delivery web site.


Gerald



On 12/22/2022 12:07 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:

Nope, you didn't break anything; they did. It's been like this for
almost two weeks. Funny though, those images show up when I read the
same emails with Mail on iOS. Wonder how they broke this. Sure wish
they'd fix it.


On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote:

I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for
the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would
read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of
a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot
read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just
something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use
picture smart there.

The Postal Service didn't break anything. For security reasons, they
decided to eliminate the scanned images from the Informed Delivery
message and instead require customers to sign in to their Accounts to
view them on the Informed Delivery web site.


Gerald



On 12/22/2022 12:07 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:

Nope, you didn't break anything; they did. It's been like this for
almost two weeks. Funny though, those images show up when I read the
same emails with Mail on iOS. Wonder how they broke this. Sure wish
they'd fix it.


On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote:

I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for
the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would
read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of
a scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot
read. Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just
something with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use
picture smart there.

I wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging in a USB camera, or even a
bluetooth camera, to a Braille note and installed an Android app that uses
the camera, such as Seeing AI?
Braille Note Touch notetakers are just using Android, like a cell phone.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "K0LNY" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Seeing AI works on android and all tablets too.
But it is good to know that the post office does this for folks without so
called smart devices.
Seeing AI is free in the app store or play store.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


Well, that's great for you. I am not using an iPhone and so cannot use
Seeing AI.

Happy holidays!
Gene...


On 12/22/2022 11:48 AM, K0LNY wrote:

I didn't know that they did this.
I just use my iPhone and the seeing AI app to sort my mail.
I mainly need to sort boxes, so I don't open my wife's boxes.
I don't even have to touch the iPhone screen to do this, I just hold down
the home button and say
open seeing AI
and the app opens and starts reading whatever text the phone is pointed
at.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Informed daily delivery question


I used to get those informed delivery emails too and I thought that they
were great. But then all of a sudden these emails are full of what I
consider to be unnecessary formatting tables and the scanned images are
no where to be found. I assumed that the tables were done in such a way
that JAWS could no longer find the scanned images inside the email.

So I turned off informed delivery because it was no longer providing the
services I signed up for. I then sent the post office a complaint about
it but don't really expect them to do anything about it.

Gene...


On 12/22/2022 10:58 AM, Loy wrote:

I have been getting a daily email with scanned images of the mail for
the day. I could use picture smart on the scanned images and it would
read the info on the image. Now I am getting the email and instead of a
scanned image it just announces graphic that picture smart cannot read.
Is everyone getting this same type message now? or is it just something
with my email?Now I have to go to the web site and use picture smart
there.