I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success.
Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it?
Thanks! Gene...
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Hi Gene, I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually power ball or megamillions or lucky for life. I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use the document option, and it never gets them wrong. I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence. Glenn
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM Subject: Scanning lottery tickets
I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success.
Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it?
Thanks! Gene...
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I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try that, then type them into Excel on my PC.
I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.
The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you just can't tell what numbers go where.
I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets interesting, like the powerball is right now.
Gene...
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On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Hi Gene, I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually power ball or megamillions or lucky for life. I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use the document option, and it never gets them wrong. I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM Subject: Scanning lottery tickets I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success. Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it? Thanks! Gene...
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Another factor here is that virtually all lottery tickets of this type is that they are printed on specially designed paper with a repeated interference pattern in the background which is used to make counterfeiting them much, much more difficult. It also makes "signal to noise" ratio (SNR) for OCR scanners very low, so it's hard for them to separate out the actual material they're trying to catch. On weeks where "things go crazy" it's very often the case that the dot-matrix systems used to print them also get overtaxed so that the actual print intensity is lighter than it might ideally be, and this makes the SNR even lower. --
Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045 Â
If you cannot or will not imagine the results of your actions, there’s no way you can act morally or responsibly. Little kids can’t do it; babies are morally monsters — completely greedy. Their imagination has to be trained into foresight and empathy.
        ~ Ursula LeGuin, 2005 Interview in The Guardian
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The quick text is not as accurate as the document. I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I can scan them myself at the store. I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick text would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store myself. The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there is more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their app to see if they are winners. But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets. For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make accessible scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking, updated their machines, with no accessibility. Glenn
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try that, then type them into Excel on my PC. I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner. The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you just can't tell what numbers go where. I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets interesting, like the powerball is right now. Gene... On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Hi Gene, I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually power ball or megamillions or lucky for life. I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use the document option, and it never gets them wrong. I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM Subject: Scanning lottery tickets
I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success.
Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it?
Thanks! Gene...
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Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest about it.
There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest about ticket results.
The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are being dishonest, then shred them.
Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed specifically to read these tickets.
Gene...
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On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: The quick text is not as accurate as the document. I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I can scan them myself at the store. I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick text would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store myself. The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there is more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their app to see if they are winners. But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets. For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make accessible scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking, updated their machines, with no accessibility. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try that, then type them into Excel on my PC. I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner. The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you just can't tell what numbers go where. I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets interesting, like the powerball is right now. Gene... On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene, I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually power ball or megamillions or lucky for life. I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use the document option, and it never gets them wrong. I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM Subject: Scanning lottery tickets
I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success.
Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it?
Thanks! Gene...
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Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer ticket scanners. So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can model them after ATM machines. I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but in case they made a mistake. I wonder if this is accessible in California? I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all point of sale devices have to be accessible. If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of lottery machines. On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed winner or not a winner. Now they display how much you won. But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display. Glenn
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest about it. There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest about ticket results. The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are being dishonest, then shred them. Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed specifically to read these tickets. Gene... On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: The quick text is not as accurate as the document. I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I can scan them myself at the store. I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick text would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store myself. The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there is more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their app to see if they are winners. But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets. For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make accessible scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking, updated their machines, with no accessibility. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try that, then type them into Excel on my PC.
I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.
The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you just can't tell what numbers go where.
I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets interesting, like the powerball is right now.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene, I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually power ball or megamillions or lucky for life. I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use the document option, and it never gets them wrong. I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM Subject: Scanning lottery tickets
I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success.
Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it?
Thanks! Gene...
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glenn what can I scan my tickets on.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer ticket scanners. So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can model them after ATM machines. I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but in case they made a mistake. I wonder if this is accessible in California? I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all point of sale devices have to be accessible. If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of lottery machines. On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed winner or not a winner. Now they display how much you won. But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest about it. There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest about ticket results. The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are being dishonest, then shred them. Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed specifically to read these tickets. Gene... On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: The quick text is not as accurate as the document. I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I can scan them myself at the store. I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick text would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store myself. The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there is more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their app to see if they are winners. But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets. For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make accessible scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking, updated their machines, with no accessibility. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try that, then type them into Excel on my PC.
I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.
The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you just can't tell what numbers go where.
I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets interesting, like the powerball is right now.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene, I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually power ball or megamillions or lucky for life. I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use the document option, and it never gets them wrong. I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM Subject: Scanning lottery tickets
I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success.
Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it?
Thanks! Gene...
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Well, you have a flatbed scanner, you just need to hook it up, install the drivers, and tell Jaws to use it.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:39 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets glenn what can I scan my tickets on. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer ticket scanners. So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can model them after ATM machines. I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but in case they made a mistake. I wonder if this is accessible in California? I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all point of sale devices have to be accessible. If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of lottery machines. On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed winner or not a winner. Now they display how much you won. But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest about it. There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest about ticket results. The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are being dishonest, then shred them. Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed specifically to read these tickets. Gene... On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: The quick text is not as accurate as the document. I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I can scan them myself at the store. I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick text would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store myself. The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there is more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their app to see if they are winners. But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets. For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make accessible scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking, updated their machines, with no accessibility. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try that, then type them into Excel on my PC.
I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.
The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you just can't tell what numbers go where.
I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets interesting, like the powerball is right now.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene, I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually power ball or megamillions or lucky for life. I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use the document option, and it never gets them wrong. I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM Subject: Scanning lottery tickets
I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success.
Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it?
Thanks! Gene...
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tried it on the sarah I bought no luck got that last year. Any news on my gmail account yet?
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:42 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets Well, you have a flatbed scanner, you just need to hook it up, install the drivers, and tell Jaws to use it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:39 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets glenn what can I scan my tickets on. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer ticket scanners. So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can model them after ATM machines. I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but in case they made a mistake. I wonder if this is accessible in California? I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all point of sale devices have to be accessible. If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of lottery machines. On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed winner or not a winner. Now they display how much you won. But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest about it. There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest about ticket results. The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are being dishonest, then shred them. Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed specifically to read these tickets. Gene... On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: The quick text is not as accurate as the document. I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I can scan them myself at the store. I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick text would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store myself. The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there is more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their app to see if they are winners. But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets. For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make accessible scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking, updated their machines, with no accessibility. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try that, then type them into Excel on my PC.
I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.
The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you just can't tell what numbers go where.
I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets interesting, like the powerball is right now.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene, I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually power ball or megamillions or lucky for life. I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use the document option, and it never gets them wrong. I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM Subject: Scanning lottery tickets
I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success.
Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it?
Thanks! Gene...
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:43 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets tried it on the sarah I bought no luck got that last year. Any news on my gmail account yet? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:42 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets Well, you have a flatbed scanner, you just need to hook it up, install the drivers, and tell Jaws to use it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:39 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets glenn what can I scan my tickets on. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer ticket scanners. So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can model them after ATM machines. I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but in case they made a mistake. I wonder if this is accessible in California? I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all point of sale devices have to be accessible. If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of lottery machines. On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed winner or not a winner. Now they display how much you won. But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest about it. There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest about ticket results. The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are being dishonest, then shred them. Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed specifically to read these tickets. Gene... On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: The quick text is not as accurate as the document. I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I can scan them myself at the store. I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick text would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store myself. The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there is more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their app to see if they are winners. But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets. For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make accessible scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking, updated their machines, with no accessibility. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try that, then type them into Excel on my PC.
I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.
The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you just can't tell what numbers go where.
I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets interesting, like the powerball is right now.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene, I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually power ball or megamillions or lucky for life. I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use the document option, and it never gets them wrong. I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM Subject: Scanning lottery tickets
I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success.
Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it?
Thanks! Gene...
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I find it very ironic that the worst violators of the ADA is the very same government that passed it into law.
They have an app that can scan their tickets, but it isn't accessible.
And even if it was, to use it you have to pay a monthly fee, and I refuse to do that.
I guess I'll just have to have an Aira agent put the numbers into a text file and email it to me.
Gene...
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On 11/3/2022 3:30 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer ticket scanners. So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can model them after ATM machines. I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but in case they made a mistake. I wonder if this is accessible in California? I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all point of sale devices have to be accessible. If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of lottery machines. On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed winner or not a winner. Now they display how much you won. But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest about it. There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest about ticket results. The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are being dishonest, then shred them. Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed specifically to read these tickets. Gene... On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document. I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I can scan them myself at the store. I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick text would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store myself. The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there is more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their app to see if they are winners. But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets. For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make accessible scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking, updated their machines, with no accessibility. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try that, then type them into Excel on my PC.
I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.
The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you just can't tell what numbers go where.
I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets interesting, like the powerball is right now.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene, I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually power ball or megamillions or lucky for life. I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use the document option, and it never gets them wrong. I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM Subject: Scanning lottery tickets
I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success.
Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it?
Thanks! Gene...
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the message I just got back didn't go in my gmail account.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise via groups.io" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:43 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets tried it on the sarah I bought no luck got that last year. Any news on my gmail account yet? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:42 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets Well, you have a flatbed scanner, you just need to hook it up, install the drivers, and tell Jaws to use it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:39 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets glenn what can I scan my tickets on. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer ticket scanners. So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can model them after ATM machines. I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but in case they made a mistake. I wonder if this is accessible in California? I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all point of sale devices have to be accessible. If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of lottery machines. On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed winner or not a winner. Now they display how much you won. But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest about it. There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest about ticket results. The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are being dishonest, then shred them. Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed specifically to read these tickets. Gene... On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: The quick text is not as accurate as the document. I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I can scan them myself at the store. I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick text would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store myself. The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there is more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their app to see if they are winners. But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets. For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make accessible scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking, updated their machines, with no accessibility. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try that, then type them into Excel on my PC.
I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.
The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you just can't tell what numbers go where.
I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets interesting, like the powerball is right now.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene, I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually power ball or megamillions or lucky for life. I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use the document option, and it never gets them wrong. I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM Subject: Scanning lottery tickets
I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success.
Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it?
Thanks! Gene...
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hey gene I agree with you, they treat us like crap
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:45 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets I find it very ironic that the worst violators of the ADA is the very same government that passed it into law. They have an app that can scan their tickets, but it isn't accessible. And even if it was, to use it you have to pay a monthly fee, and I refuse to do that. I guess I'll just have to have an Aira agent put the numbers into a text file and email it to me. Gene... On 11/3/2022 3:30 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer ticket scanners. So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can model them after ATM machines. I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but in case they made a mistake. I wonder if this is accessible in California? I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all point of sale devices have to be accessible. If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of lottery machines. On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed winner or not a winner. Now they display how much you won. But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest about it.
There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest about ticket results.
The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are being dishonest, then shred them.
Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed specifically to read these tickets.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document. I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I can scan them myself at the store. I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick text would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store myself. The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there is more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their app to see if they are winners. But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets. For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make accessible scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking, updated their machines, with no accessibility. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try that, then type them into Excel on my PC.
I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.
The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you just can't tell what numbers go where.
I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets interesting, like the powerball is right now.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene, I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually power ball or megamillions or lucky for life. I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use the document option, and it never gets them wrong. I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM Subject: Scanning lottery tickets
I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success.
Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it?
Thanks! Gene...
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And hope that your state's lottery doesn't sprinkle text in with the numbers like ours does.
Gene...
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On 11/3/2022 3:42 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Well, you have a flatbed scanner, you just need to hook it up, install the drivers, and tell Jaws to use it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:39 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets glenn what can I scan my tickets on. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer ticket scanners. So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can model them after ATM machines. I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but in case they made a mistake. I wonder if this is accessible in California? I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all point of sale devices have to be accessible. If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of lottery machines. On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed winner or not a winner. Now they display how much you won. But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest about it. There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest about ticket results. The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are being dishonest, then shred them. Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed specifically to read these tickets. Gene... On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document. I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I can scan them myself at the store. I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick text would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store myself. The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there is more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their app to see if they are winners. But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets. For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make accessible scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking, updated their machines, with no accessibility. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try that, then type them into Excel on my PC.
I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.
The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you just can't tell what numbers go where.
I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets interesting, like the powerball is right now.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene, I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually power ball or megamillions or lucky for life. I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use the document option, and it never gets them wrong. I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM Subject: Scanning lottery tickets
I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success.
Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it?
Thanks! Gene...
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yep they do every thing to make it hard for us.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets And hope that your state's lottery doesn't sprinkle text in with the numbers like ours does. Gene... On 11/3/2022 3:42 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Well, you have a flatbed scanner, you just need to hook it up, install the drivers, and tell Jaws to use it.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:39 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
glenn what can I scan my tickets on. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer ticket scanners. So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can model them after ATM machines. I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but in case they made a mistake. I wonder if this is accessible in California? I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all point of sale devices have to be accessible. If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of lottery machines. On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed winner or not a winner. Now they display how much you won. But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest about it.
There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest about ticket results.
The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are being dishonest, then shred them.
Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed specifically to read these tickets.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document. I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I can scan them myself at the store. I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick text would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store myself. The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there is more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their app to see if they are winners. But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets. For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make accessible scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking, updated their machines, with no accessibility. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try that, then type them into Excel on my PC.
I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.
The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you just can't tell what numbers go where.
I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets interesting, like the powerball is right now.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene, I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually power ball or megamillions or lucky for life. I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use the document option, and it never gets them wrong. I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM Subject: Scanning lottery tickets
I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success.
Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it?
Thanks! Gene...
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The worse that happens here is sometimes the ink starts getting weak, and they are difficult for their own scanners. You should snail-mail me a few old non-winners to see if I can scan them. Glenn
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:47 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets And hope that your state's lottery doesn't sprinkle text in with the numbers like ours does. Gene... On 11/3/2022 3:42 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Well, you have a flatbed scanner, you just need to hook it up, install the drivers, and tell Jaws to use it.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:39 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
glenn what can I scan my tickets on. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer ticket scanners. So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can model them after ATM machines. I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but in case they made a mistake. I wonder if this is accessible in California? I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all point of sale devices have to be accessible. If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of lottery machines. On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed winner or not a winner. Now they display how much you won. But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest about it.
There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest about ticket results.
The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are being dishonest, then shred them.
Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed specifically to read these tickets.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document. I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I can scan them myself at the store. I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick text would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store myself. The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there is more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their app to see if they are winners. But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets. For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make accessible scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking, updated their machines, with no accessibility. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try that, then type them into Excel on my PC.
I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.
The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you just can't tell what numbers go where.
I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets interesting, like the powerball is right now.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene, I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually power ball or megamillions or lucky for life. I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use the document option, and it never gets them wrong. I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM Subject: Scanning lottery tickets
I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success.
Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it?
Thanks! Gene...
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I will after Friday this ticket is glossey.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:50 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets The worse that happens here is sometimes the ink starts getting weak, and they are difficult for their own scanners. You should snail-mail me a few old non-winners to see if I can scan them. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:47 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets And hope that your state's lottery doesn't sprinkle text in with the numbers like ours does. Gene... On 11/3/2022 3:42 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Well, you have a flatbed scanner, you just need to hook it up, install the drivers, and tell Jaws to use it.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:39 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
glenn what can I scan my tickets on. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer ticket scanners. So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can model them after ATM machines. I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but in case they made a mistake. I wonder if this is accessible in California? I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all point of sale devices have to be accessible. If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of lottery machines. On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed winner or not a winner. Now they display how much you won. But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest about it.
There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest about ticket results.
The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are being dishonest, then shred them.
Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed specifically to read these tickets.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document. I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I can scan them myself at the store. I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick text would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store myself. The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there is more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their app to see if they are winners. But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets. For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make accessible scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking, updated their machines, with no accessibility. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try that, then type them into Excel on my PC.
I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.
The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you just can't tell what numbers go where.
I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets interesting, like the powerball is right now.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene, I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually power ball or megamillions or lucky for life. I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use the document option, and it never gets them wrong. I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM Subject: Scanning lottery tickets
I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success.
Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it?
Thanks! Gene...
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Our tickets have one glossy side, and if the person behind the counter does not load the paper backwards, the business side of the tickets is the glossy side, so I always scan that side first. But sometimes they load the paper roll wrong.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:56 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets I will after Friday this ticket is glossey. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:50 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets The worse that happens here is sometimes the ink starts getting weak, and they are difficult for their own scanners. You should snail-mail me a few old non-winners to see if I can scan them. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:47 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets And hope that your state's lottery doesn't sprinkle text in with the numbers like ours does. Gene... On 11/3/2022 3:42 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Well, you have a flatbed scanner, you just need to hook it up, install the drivers, and tell Jaws to use it.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:39 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
glenn what can I scan my tickets on. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
Well now is the time to make sure they add accessibility to the customer ticket scanners. So find out if there is a group or committee working on this, and they can model them after ATM machines. I too take my tickets back, not just in case I question their honesty, but in case they made a mistake. I wonder if this is accessible in California? I thought California passed a point of sale law some years back where all point of sale devices have to be accessible. If that is the case there, we can get our states to use their type of lottery machines. On our ticket scanners for customers, it used to be that they only displayed winner or not a winner. Now they display how much you won. But I think it would be easy for them to add TTS to that display. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest about it.
There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest about ticket results.
The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are being dishonest, then shred them.
Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed specifically to read these tickets.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
The quick text is not as accurate as the document. I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I can scan them myself at the store. I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick text would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store myself. The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there is more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their app to see if they are winners. But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets. For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make accessible scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking, updated their machines, with no accessibility. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try that, then type them into Excel on my PC.
I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.
The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you just can't tell what numbers go where.
I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets interesting, like the powerball is right now.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene, I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually power ball or megamillions or lucky for life. I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use the document option, and it never gets them wrong. I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM Subject: Scanning lottery tickets
I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success.
Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it?
Thanks! Gene...
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AIRA could be an option to read the numbers on your ticket, and then you can go to the Florida lottery winning numbers website to check if anything matches.
Pam
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 3:22 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets Lucky you! Here in Florida we don't get the option to check our own tickets with a machine. We have to hand our tickets to an employee of the lottery retailer to scan them for us, then hope they are honest about it. There have been calls for the Florida lottery to make machines available so that ticket buyers can check their own tickets because there have been a number of reports of lottery retailer employees being dishonest about ticket results. The way I avoid that problem is to always ask for my tickets back after they have been checked when I am told that there were no winners. That way if the employee is being dishonest, they won't have the tickets to claim the prize with, then I take them to another retailer to check. I still take back the non winning tickets just in case both employees are being dishonest, then shred them. Unfortunately the text in and around the numbers screwed up Seeing AI as well. I guess it will take either a human or an app designed specifically to read these tickets. Gene... On 11/3/2022 3:08 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: The quick text is not as accurate as the document. I wish my lottery office would put an earphone jack like ATMs have so I can scan them myself at the store. I've toyed with the idea of trying to see if my seeing AI on the quick text would read the customer scan window so I could scan them at the store myself. The Nebraska lottery has an app for scanning tickets, but you know, there is more than one barcode on the tickets, and that sometimes messes up the iPhone lottery app, so it is more trouble than it is worth to use their app to see if they are winners. But I hate having to trust people behind the counter to scan my tickets. For at least twenty years I've been asking Nebraska lotto to make accessible scanners, but they haven't yet, and they have since I started asking, updated their machines, with no accessibility. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Scanning lottery tickets
I have Seeing AI on an iPhone I no longer use as a phone, so I could try that, then type them into Excel on my PC.
I am working on a spreadsheet that will tell me if a ticket is a winner or not, and which prize it has won if it is a winner.
The problem I've had with trying to OCR these tickets is that they print text in and around the numbers which screws up the OCR so much that you just can't tell what numbers go where.
I don't play the lotteries regularly, I play only when the prize gets interesting, like the powerball is right now.
Gene...
On 11/3/2022 2:24 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene, I often OCR lotteries when my state lottery does special vouchers that I have to enter a 7 digit code on my account for Nebraska lottery, usually power ball or megamillions or lucky for life. I use the seeing AI app on an old iPhone, that is no longer a phone, and use the document option, and it never gets them wrong. I am confident of that, because usually I have more than one voucher number on a ticket, and the odds would be greater than winning the lottery if it got both numbers incorrect, yet in sequence. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: "JAWS support list" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 12:08 PM Subject: Scanning lottery tickets
I am trying to scan and OCR my lottery tickets so I can check the numbers myself and am not having much success.
Has anyone figured out how to do this or is there a Windows app that can do it?
Thanks! Gene...
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