Moderated activating a search box on a web site
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Madison Martin
Hi all, Really hoping that someone can help me as I find this really strange. I’m trying to search on a web site but even though there’s an option to search I can’t get an edit box to come up, I’ve tried pressing enter, the spacebar, bringing up the context menu and pressing e to find edit fields on the site but can’t get the box to come up. Any ideas as to how I can get the search box to come up on the site? Using the latest versions of Edge and the Jaws beata. Thanks Madison |
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JM Casey
Hello madison.
I think if you want really concrete answers, you’ll have to tell us what site/page it is, so that someone can try it out. The first thing I would say is, if enter or space won’t work, try a left mouse click. Th at is, use the simulated mouse. Hopefully your keyboard is working now. If you have a numpad this would be the / 9slash) key. When that doesn’t even work, you could also try doing a real mouse click with the real mouse. Of course in both cases, you have to make sure your mouse pointer is actually in the right place. To do this, you might have to route the jaws cursor with insert-slash.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: October 24, 2022 05:17 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: activating a search box on a web site
Hi all, Really hoping that someone can help me as I find this really strange. I’m trying to search on a web site but even though there’s an option to search I can’t get an edit box to come up, I’ve tried pressing enter, the spacebar, bringing up the context menu and pressing e to find edit fields on the site but can’t get the box to come up. Any ideas as to how I can get the search box to come up on the site? Using the latest versions of Edge and the Jaws beata. Thanks Madison |
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Madison Martin
I use an external keyboard but it doesn’t have a numb pad but since my keyboard layout is set to desktop the insert key works. Here’s the link:
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: October 24, 2022 4:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: activating a search box on a web site
Hello madison.
I think if you want really concrete answers, you’ll have to tell us what site/page it is, so that someone can try it out. The first thing I would say is, if enter or space won’t work, try a left mouse click. Th at is, use the simulated mouse. Hopefully your keyboard is working now. If you have a numpad this would be the / 9slash) key. When that doesn’t even work, you could also try doing a real mouse click with the real mouse. Of course in both cases, you have to make sure your mouse pointer is actually in the right place. To do this, you might have to route the jaws cursor with insert-slash.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Hi all, Really hoping that someone can help me as I find this really strange. I’m trying to search on a web site but even though there’s an option to search I can’t get an edit box to come up, I’ve tried pressing enter, the spacebar, bringing up the context menu and pressing e to find edit fields on the site but can’t get the box to come up. Any ideas as to how I can get the search box to come up on the site? Using the latest versions of Edge and the Jaws beata. Thanks Madison |
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Nermin
Hi Madison,
the only way you're going to get anywhere is by routing the mouse pointer to the virtual cursor, since not even the touch cursor will perform a click on the word "search". Then do a left mouse click on "search", which will cause a menu to expand that you can navigate normally using the virtual cursor. You will find a combobox where you can type in your search term. Regards, Nermin |
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Madison Martin
Okay, how do I route the mouse pointer to the virtual cursor?
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Nermin
Hi Madison,
I think JM answered this already. Just use JAWS+the JAWS Cursor key, in other words JAWS+minus on your number keypad or JAWSKey+ whatever is to the right of the letter p on a laptop. Since I don't have the US keyboard layout installed, I can just give you that info, and not to mention the CSA layout, should you be using that. To actually perform the left mouse click, press the button to the right of the NUMLock key, or use JAWS+8 on the number row in laptop layout mode. The JAWS Key is most likely insert if you did not change anything, or it can also be the CAPSLOCK key. Regards, Nermin |
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JM Casey
Hey madison. Press insert | numpad – (minus – the jaws cursor key. The jaws cursor is equivalent to the mouse pointer, so you will here “root jaws to virtaul PC” or something like that.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: October 25, 2022 01:57 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: activating a search box on a web site
Okay, how do I route the mouse pointer to the virtual cursor? |
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Madison Martin
Okay, unfortunately I didn’t get any such message; in fact absolutely nothing happened when I pressed insert and the minus key..
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: October 25, 2022 3:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: activating a search box on a web site
Hey madison. Press insert | numpad – (minus – the jaws cursor key. The jaws cursor is equivalent to the mouse pointer, so you will here “root jaws to virtaul PC” or something like that.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Okay, how do I route the mouse pointer to the virtual cursor? |
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JM Casey
Did you get ‘er done?
I forgot that you were using Edge, which I don’t really use, and went there with chrome. When I hit enter ont eh word “searcH” using that browser, the search box does open and there is an edit field to type into. No mouse clicks required. However mervyn described how you can do this using edge and the left mouse click.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: October 25, 2022 12:09 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: activating a search box on a web site
I use an external keyboard but it doesn’t have a numb pad but since my keyboard layout is set to desktop the insert key works. Here’s the link:
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hello madison.
I think if you want really concrete answers, you’ll have to tell us what site/page it is, so that someone can try it out. The first thing I would say is, if enter or space won’t work, try a left mouse click. Th at is, use the simulated mouse. Hopefully your keyboard is working now. If you have a numpad this would be the / 9slash) key. When that doesn’t even work, you could also try doing a real mouse click with the real mouse. Of course in both cases, you have to make sure your mouse pointer is actually in the right place. To do this, you might have to route the jaws cursor with insert-slash.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Hi all, Really hoping that someone can help me as I find this really strange. I’m trying to search on a web site but even though there’s an option to search I can’t get an edit box to come up, I’ve tried pressing enter, the spacebar, bringing up the context menu and pressing e to find edit fields on the site but can’t get the box to come up. Any ideas as to how I can get the search box to come up on the site? Using the latest versions of Edge and the Jaws beata. Thanks Madison |
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Madison Martin
No; before you ask I don’t have any other browsers installed. I can’t even route the jaws cursor
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: October 25, 2022 4:51 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: activating a search box on a web site
Did you get ‘er done?
I forgot that you were using Edge, which I don’t really use, and went there with chrome. When I hit enter ont eh word “searcH” using that browser, the search box does open and there is an edit field to type into. No mouse clicks required. However mervyn described how you can do this using edge and the left mouse click.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
I use an external keyboard but it doesn’t have a numb pad but since my keyboard layout is set to desktop the insert key works. Here’s the link:
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hello madison.
I think if you want really concrete answers, you’ll have to tell us what site/page it is, so that someone can try it out. The first thing I would say is, if enter or space won’t work, try a left mouse click. Th at is, use the simulated mouse. Hopefully your keyboard is working now. If you have a numpad this would be the / 9slash) key. When that doesn’t even work, you could also try doing a real mouse click with the real mouse. Of course in both cases, you have to make sure your mouse pointer is actually in the right place. To do this, you might have to route the jaws cursor with insert-slash.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Hi all, Really hoping that someone can help me as I find this really strange. I’m trying to search on a web site but even though there’s an option to search I can’t get an edit box to come up, I’ve tried pressing enter, the spacebar, bringing up the context menu and pressing e to find edit fields on the site but can’t get the box to come up. Any ideas as to how I can get the search box to come up on the site? Using the latest versions of Edge and the Jaws beata. Thanks Madison |
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Nermin
Madison,
is your number pad acting as a numpad rather than issuing the cursor, end and home commands? What happens if you press the top left key on the number pad? After doing that, press INSERT+MINUS on your keypad again. Did that work? Regards, Nermin |
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Madison Martin
I don't have a number pad
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io Sent: October 25, 2022 8:19 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: activating a search box on a web site Madison, is your number pad acting as a numpad rather than issuing the cursor, end and home commands? What happens if you press the top left key on the number pad? After doing that, press INSERT+MINUS on your keypad again. Did that work? Regards, Nermin |
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Nermin
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Then you need to use the key combinations I outlined in my previous message. I thought you were using desktop layout and have a dedicated numpad? Am 26.10.2022 um 06:12 schrieb Madison Martin: I don't have a number pad |
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Madison Martin
I've never used a number pad but yes I do use desktop layout
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io Sent: October 25, 2022 11:23 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: activating a search box on a web site Hi, Then you need to use the key combinations I outlined in my previous message. I thought you were using desktop layout and have a dedicated numpad? Am 26.10.2022 um 06:12 schrieb Madison Martin: I don't have a number pad |
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Nermin
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if you don't use a number pad, how do you then use desktop layout without it? It's tricky to use FN combinations all the time... Am 26.10.2022 um 17:29 schrieb Madison Martin: I've never used a number pad but yes I do use desktop layout |
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Madison Martin
Really not sure what to tell you; ever since I got this external keyboard that's the layout that I've used and it's worked, even on my old laptop that had a number pad I never used it which is why I bought one without one.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io Sent: October 26, 2022 12:58 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: activating a search box on a web site Hi, if you don't use a number pad, how do you then use desktop layout without it? It's tricky to use FN combinations all the time... Am 26.10.2022 um 17:29 schrieb Madison Martin: I've never used a number pad but yes I do use desktop layout |
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Nermin
To route the JAWS cursor to the virtual cursor, you'd usually use the key to the right of the letter p while in laptop mode.
If you don't have a number keypad on your external keyboard, I don't know how you'd do that in desktop mode. I am assuming that some of your keys will double as a numpad and they will be arranged so that they resemble a numpad, something like 1 2 3 on the letters j k and l, then u i o, etc. Then you will have a numlock key or some kind of modifier key. Anyway, do you have the exact model and name of that keyboard. By exact I mean exact, and not just ... It's a logitech keyboard. |
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JM Casey
Hello madison.
It sounds like, even with the desktop layout running, you needt o at least learn some of the laptop layout keystrokes. They should still work as far as I know. I would spend some time witht eh jAWS manual, learning about the different cursors as well as some of the keyboard commands to take advantage of the screen-reader you have. And it can’t hurt to install another browser. People are always saying on these lists that you should have as many browsers as you can, and, well, it’s actually pretty sound reasoning. Often what doesn’t work well with one combination will work better with another. I regularly have to switch between chrome, firefox, and now, waterfox too. But they all work more or less the same from a user perspective, so I don’t consider it a big deal.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: October 25, 2022 05:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: activating a search box on a web site
No; before you ask I don’t have any other browsers installed. I can’t even route the jaws cursor
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Did you get ‘er done?
I forgot that you were using Edge, which I don’t really use, and went there with chrome. When I hit enter ont eh word “searcH” using that browser, the search box does open and there is an edit field to type into. No mouse clicks required. However mervyn described how you can do this using edge and the left mouse click.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
I use an external keyboard but it doesn’t have a numb pad but since my keyboard layout is set to desktop the insert key works. Here’s the link:
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hello madison.
I think if you want really concrete answers, you’ll have to tell us what site/page it is, so that someone can try it out. The first thing I would say is, if enter or space won’t work, try a left mouse click. Th at is, use the simulated mouse. Hopefully your keyboard is working now. If you have a numpad this would be the / 9slash) key. When that doesn’t even work, you could also try doing a real mouse click with the real mouse. Of course in both cases, you have to make sure your mouse pointer is actually in the right place. To do this, you might have to route the jaws cursor with insert-slash.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Hi all, Really hoping that someone can help me as I find this really strange. I’m trying to search on a web site but even though there’s an option to search I can’t get an edit box to come up, I’ve tried pressing enter, the spacebar, bringing up the context menu and pressing e to find edit fields on the site but can’t get the box to come up. Any ideas as to how I can get the search box to come up on the site? Using the latest versions of Edge and the Jaws beata. Thanks Madison |
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JM Casey
--Yeah…its because you don’t have a number pad. You have to use the laptop layout keystrokes instead. Everyone’s been assuming you have a number pad and so giving you instructions accordingly. See this document, for starters.
https://support.freedomscientific.com/Content/Documents/Manuals/JAWS/Keystrokes.pdf
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: October 25, 2022 05:46 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: activating a search box on a web site
Okay, unfortunately I didn’t get any such message; in fact absolutely nothing happened when I pressed insert and the minus key..
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hey madison. Press insert | numpad – (minus – the jaws cursor key. The jaws cursor is equivalent to the mouse pointer, so you will here “root jaws to virtaul PC” or something like that.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Okay, how do I route the mouse pointer to the virtual cursor? |
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Madison Martin
Okay, I’ve never heard of waterfox before but then again there are likely other browsers that I’ve never heard of as Edge, Google Chrome and Firefox seem to be the main ones.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: October 26, 2022 8:37 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: activating a search box on a web site
Hello madison.
It sounds like, even with the desktop layout running, you needt o at least learn some of the laptop layout keystrokes. They should still work as far as I know. I would spend some time witht eh jAWS manual, learning about the different cursors as well as some of the keyboard commands to take advantage of the screen-reader you have. And it can’t hurt to install another browser. People are always saying on these lists that you should have as many browsers as you can, and, well, it’s actually pretty sound reasoning. Often what doesn’t work well with one combination will work better with another. I regularly have to switch between chrome, firefox, and now, waterfox too. But they all work more or less the same from a user perspective, so I don’t consider it a big deal.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
No; before you ask I don’t have any other browsers installed. I can’t even route the jaws cursor
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Did you get ‘er done?
I forgot that you were using Edge, which I don’t really use, and went there with chrome. When I hit enter ont eh word “searcH” using that browser, the search box does open and there is an edit field to type into. No mouse clicks required. However mervyn described how you can do this using edge and the left mouse click.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
I use an external keyboard but it doesn’t have a numb pad but since my keyboard layout is set to desktop the insert key works. Here’s the link:
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hello madison.
I think if you want really concrete answers, you’ll have to tell us what site/page it is, so that someone can try it out. The first thing I would say is, if enter or space won’t work, try a left mouse click. Th at is, use the simulated mouse. Hopefully your keyboard is working now. If you have a numpad this would be the / 9slash) key. When that doesn’t even work, you could also try doing a real mouse click with the real mouse. Of course in both cases, you have to make sure your mouse pointer is actually in the right place. To do this, you might have to route the jaws cursor with insert-slash.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Hi all, Really hoping that someone can help me as I find this really strange. I’m trying to search on a web site but even though there’s an option to search I can’t get an edit box to come up, I’ve tried pressing enter, the spacebar, bringing up the context menu and pressing e to find edit fields on the site but can’t get the box to come up. Any ideas as to how I can get the search box to come up on the site? Using the latest versions of Edge and the Jaws beata. Thanks Madison |
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