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Moderated Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10
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Dave Durber
Hello everyone:
The subject line says it all. Earlier today, I
checked the check box to have the system boot to safe mode, under the Boot Tab
in MsConfig, saved the setting change then, I
restarted the computer. . However, after waiting
for about 2 minutes, I determined that the sound settings for the default sound
card are not enabled for Windows 10 in Safe Mode. I was certain that the system
had restarted in Safe Mode, and on that assumption, I used another computer with
MsConfig to
follow the steps, to uncheck the check box for the original computer then, I
restarted the computer, which started in full Windows mode.
I have no idea how far back this problem
goes, I do remember, the System Sounds were turned
on for the last major update in 2019
because, I can remember booting Windows 10 into Safe Mode at that time and being
able to use both Narrator and NVDA
Do you now need to initialize a setting in standard
Windows in order for the System Sounds to be turned on for safe
mode?
Dave
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K0LNY
I'd be willing to bet that the registry hack that
works in 7 will work in 10, for switching on audio in safe mode.
Here's the registry hacks:
Files 1&2 can be called anything you
want.reg
Save the below in notepad and give it a .reg
extension and save it and enter on it, Windows will ask you if you want to run
it.
After file 1, I'll put file 2 that will undo it if
it does not work.
File 1:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
@="[6cFgE][Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґš !!! !!! !]" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\{640167b4-59b0-47a6-b335-a6b3c0695aea}]
@="Portable Media Devices" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\AudioEndpointBuilder]
@="Service" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\Audiosrv]
@="Service" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\HdAudAddService]
@="Service" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\HDAudBus]
@="Service" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\drmkaud]
@="Driver" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\MMCSS]
@="Service" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
@="[6cFgE][Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґš !!! !!! !]" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\{640167b4-59b0-47a6-b335-a6b3c0695aea}]
@="Portable Media Devices" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\AudioEndpointBuilder]
@="Service" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\Audiosrv]
@="Service" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\HdAudAddService]
@="Service" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\HDAudBus]
@="Service" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\drmkaud]
@="Driver" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\MMCSS]
@="Service" File 2:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
@="[6cFgE][Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґš !!! !!! !]" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\{640167b4-59b0-47a6-b335-a6b3c0695aea}]
@="Portable Media Devices" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\AudioEndpointBuilder]
@="Service" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\Audiosrv]
@="Service" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\HdAudAddService]
@="Service" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\HDAudBus]
@="Service" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\drmkaud]
@="Driver" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\MMCSS]
@="Service" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
@="[6cFgE][Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґš !!! !!! !]" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\{640167b4-59b0-47a6-b335-a6b3c0695aea}]
@="Portable Media Devices" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\AudioEndpointBuilder]
@="Service" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\Audiosrv]
@="Service" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\HdAudAddService]
@="Service" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\HDAudBus]
@="Service" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\drmkaud]
@="Driver" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\MMCSS]
@="Service" HTH
Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 1:29 PM
Subject: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode
in Windows 10 Hello everyone:
The subject line says it all. Earlier today, I
checked the check box to have the system boot to safe mode, under the Boot Tab
in MsConfig, saved the setting change then, I
restarted the computer. . However, after waiting
for about 2 minutes, I determined that the sound settings for the default sound
card are not enabled for Windows 10 in Safe Mode. I was certain that the system
had restarted in Safe Mode, and on that assumption, I used another computer with
MsConfig to
follow the steps, to uncheck the check box for the original computer then, I
restarted the computer, which started in full Windows mode.
I have no idea how far back this problem
goes, I do remember, the System Sounds were turned
on for the last major update in 2019
because, I can remember booting Windows 10 into Safe Mode at that time and being
able to use both Narrator and NVDA
Do you now need to initialize a setting in standard
Windows in order for the System Sounds to be turned on for safe
mode?
Dave
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K0LNY
And if anyone wants, you can download it from my
open drive already in reg format with instructions and zipped, at the
following link:
Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe
Mode in Windows 10 I'd be willing to bet that the registry hack that
works in 7 will work in 10, for switching on audio in safe mode.
Here's the registry hacks:
Files 1&2 can be called anything you
want.reg
Save the below in notepad and give it a .reg
extension and save it and enter on it, Windows will ask you if you want to run
it.
After file 1, I'll put file 2 that will undo it if
it does not work.
File 1:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
@="[6cFgE][Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґš !!! !!! !]" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\{640167b4-59b0-47a6-b335-a6b3c0695aea}]
@="Portable Media Devices" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\AudioEndpointBuilder]
@="Service" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\Audiosrv]
@="Service" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\HdAudAddService]
@="Service" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\HDAudBus]
@="Service" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\drmkaud]
@="Driver" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\MMCSS]
@="Service" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
@="[6cFgE][Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґš !!! !!! !]" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\{640167b4-59b0-47a6-b335-a6b3c0695aea}]
@="Portable Media Devices" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\AudioEndpointBuilder]
@="Service" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\Audiosrv]
@="Service" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\HdAudAddService]
@="Service" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\HDAudBus]
@="Service" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\drmkaud]
@="Driver" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\MMCSS]
@="Service" File 2:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
@="[6cFgE][Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґš !!! !!! !]" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\{640167b4-59b0-47a6-b335-a6b3c0695aea}]
@="Portable Media Devices" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\AudioEndpointBuilder]
@="Service" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\Audiosrv]
@="Service" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\HdAudAddService]
@="Service" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\HDAudBus]
@="Service" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\drmkaud]
@="Driver" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Network\MMCSS]
@="Service" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
@="[6cFgE][Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґš !!! !!! !]" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\{640167b4-59b0-47a6-b335-a6b3c0695aea}]
@="Portable Media Devices" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\AudioEndpointBuilder]
@="Service" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\Audiosrv]
@="Service" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\HdAudAddService]
@="Service" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\HDAudBus]
@="Service" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\drmkaud]
@="Driver" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\MMCSS]
@="Service" HTH
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 1:29 PM
Subject: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode
in Windows 10 Hello everyone:
The subject line says it all. Earlier today, I
checked the check box to have the system boot to safe mode, under the Boot Tab
in MsConfig, saved the setting change then, I
restarted the computer. . However, after waiting
for about 2 minutes, I determined that the sound settings for the default sound
card are not enabled for Windows 10 in Safe Mode. I was certain that the system
had restarted in Safe Mode, and on that assumption, I used another computer with
MsConfig to
follow the steps, to uncheck the check box for the original computer then, I
restarted the computer, which started in full Windows mode.
I have no idea how far back this problem
goes, I do remember, the System Sounds were turned
on for the last major update in 2019
because, I can remember booting Windows 10 into Safe Mode at that time and being
able to use both Narrator and NVDA
Do you now need to initialize a setting in standard
Windows in order for the System Sounds to be turned on for safe
mode?
Dave
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Annabelle Susan Morison
Out of curiosity, is Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 the version in Windows 7 or Windows 10?
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Sound has never been available, by default, in Safe Mode going back to the beginning of Windows. Registry Editor 5.00 is still current.
I wrote the following tutorial (and the downloadable registry editing scripts that take care of it all) several years ago for the then Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group (now Windows Access with Screen Readers Group as of the advent of Windows 11): Getting Sound in Safe Mode Under Windows 10 -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore |
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By the way, that's for Safe Mode with Networking. I never use Safe Mode without networking, so I didn't bother doing the registry tweaks for that state.
-- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore |
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William Vandervest
Error 404 message when following the link you just posted Just thought you should know
William Vandervest timelord09@... Win10 latest revision
There are none so blind, as those who will not see.
William Vandervest
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 16:19 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10
Sound has never been available, by default, in Safe Mode going back to the beginning of Windows. Registry Editor 5.00 is still current. Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore |
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William,
Thank you very much. Now it's been around a year since Google imposed a new security requirement, and I've gone in to as many of my links and corrected them as I could remember, but apparently not this one. Getting Sound in Safe Mode Under Windows 10 That link should work. It's a ZIP file and you should save it to your Desktop (or copy it there from wherever it downloads) and unzip it there. After the unzipping, the ZIP file can be deleted. The instructions for using it after you've unzipped it are in the folder in a plain text file. If there are any additional issues, please let me know. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore |
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William Vandervest
Got it and it worked. Thanks
William Vandervest timelord09@... Win10 latest revision
There are none so blind, as those who will not see.
William Vandervest
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 19:47 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10
William, Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore |
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On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 08:29 PM, William Vandervest wrote:
- You're quite welcome. Might I ask if you are on Windows 10, or possibly 11? I have yet to test this under Windows 11 and figure if I have an "it works" report from someone who's already run it on 11, I can save myself some testing. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore |
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William Vandervest
Win10, latest build.
William Vandervest timelord09@... Win10 latest revision
There are none so blind, as those who will not see.
William Vandervest
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 20:33 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe Mode in Windows 10
On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 08:29 PM, William Vandervest wrote:
- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore |
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Dave Durber
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Brian:
Under the Boot Tab in MsConfig for any of my
systems , there is no setting for "Safe Mode
with Networking". Is there a way for me to turn on this option in the
Boot Tab? Below are the options in the Boot Tab for all my systems:
List box Windows 10 (C:\WINDOWS) : Current OS;
Default OS
Advanced options... Button Boot options Safe boot check box not checked Boot options No GUI boot check box not checked Boot options Boot log check box not checked Boot options Base video check box not checked Boot options OS boot information check box not checked Timeout: Edit 30 Make all boot settings permanent check box not checked
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Annabelle Susan Morison
On the parts that say, ="Driver" and ="Service", does one have to specify the name of a driver and a service in order to make this work right? I'm confused!
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Jim Weiss <jimweiss72@...>
Brian,
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I tried to follow the link to the article you mention at the end of your message and I get a 404 error. Can you please provide the link again. Thanks, Jim Weiss “The most pathetic person in the world is someone who has sight, but has no vision.” - Helen Keller
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On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 04:57 AM, Jim Weiss wrote:
I tried to follow the link to the article you mention at the end of your message and I get a 404 error.- Someone already mentioned this, and I responded: Getting Sound in Safe Mode Under Windows 10 -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore |
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K0LNY
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Hi Annabelle,
No, you don't do anything with it but copy and
paste it into a text file and rename it, or if you want to do it the easy way, I
have both files in a zip file that I posted the link to, and you only enter on
the .REG file to install it.
Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe
Mode in Windows 10 On the parts that say, ="Driver"
and ="Service", does one have to specify the name of a driver and a service in
order to make this work right? I'm confused!
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Dave Durber
Glenn:
The information below, is the error information I got, after I
selected the text and copied it to the clipboard and then pasted into notepad
and then saved the information to a file called
Turn on System sounds in Safe Mode.reg
*** Start of Error message from Windows 10
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Registry Editor
Adding information can unintentionally change or delete values and cause components to stop working correctly. If you do not trust the source of this information in F:\Turn on System sounds in Safe Mode.reg, do not add it to the registry. Are you sure you want to continue? Yes Button Registry Editor Cannot import F:\Turn on System sounds in Safe Mode.reg: Not all data was successfully written to the registry. Some keys are open by the system or other processes, or you have insufficient privileges to perform this operation. OK Button OK Button *** End of Error message from Windows 10
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K0LNY
Hi Dave,
That message is supposed to come up, it usually
scares people, but something would be wrong if it did not pop up.
Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe
Mode in Windows 10 Glenn:
The information below, is the error information I got, after I
selected the text and copied it to the clipboard and then pasted into notepad
and then saved the information to a file called
Turn on System sounds in Safe Mode.reg
*** Start of Error message from Windows 10
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Registry Editor
Adding information can unintentionally change or delete values and cause components to stop working correctly. If you do not trust the source of this information in F:\Turn on System sounds in Safe Mode.reg, do not add it to the registry. Are you sure you want to continue? Yes Button Registry Editor Cannot import F:\Turn on System sounds in Safe Mode.reg: Not all data was successfully written to the registry. Some keys are open by the system or other processes, or you have insufficient privileges to perform this operation. OK Button OK Button *** End of Error message from Windows 10
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Dave Durber
Glenn:
Did you see the message I posted to Brian earlier
today?
None of the systems which I am running Windows 10,
show an option called "Safe mode with Networking". Do I need to do something in
order for that option to be shown in the Boot Tab in MsConfig?
Dave
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K0LNY
Dave,
In my windows 10, in the msconfig utility, I only
get the network option after I use space bar on safe mode, and after that, there
will be items to check with the space bar, like network.
HTH.
Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: Sound settings do not appear to be turned on in Safe
Mode in Windows 10 Glenn:
Did you see the message I posted to Brian earlier
today?
None of the systems which I am running Windows 10,
show an option called "Safe mode with Networking". Do I need to do something in
order for that option to be shown in the Boot Tab in MsConfig?
Dave
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