Does anyone have any experience with Last Pass?

Gene...


On 9/26/2022 2:33 PM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io wrote:

I guess I never thought about any issues with putting something like Apple
ID into KeePass. I do have all of my passwords in the KeePass vault. I
feel good about the crazy password I have for that database file and have
gotten over my general nervousness. I hope I'm not being naïve about
something.

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Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 5:32 PM
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What happens if you put something like your Apple ID in a password
manager? I was thinking of using something like BitWarden or similar but
was wondering if you'd have to leave some passwords out of a vault because
it might be hard to scrape a password from a vault during install.







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I guess I never thought about any issues with putting something like Apple ID into KeePass. I do have all of my passwords in the KeePass vault. I feel good about the crazy password I have for that database file and have gotten over my general nervousness. I hope I'm not being naïve about something.
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What happens if you put something like your Apple ID in a password manager? I was thinking of using something like BitWarden or similar but was wondering if you'd have to leave some passwords out of a vault because it might be hard to scrape a password from a vault during install.
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Hi Marty,

What I would do in your described scenario is to go to the website, open KeePass with the custom shortcut I've created, look up the appropriate entry in my KeePass database, and then do a ctrl + b to copy the username followed by a ctrl + c to copy the password which I would pasted in the appropriate places on the website. I'm not a fan of automatic entry of anything so I much prefer to do the copying and pasting steps manually.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 2:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers

I have downloaded and installed KeePass. I set up a new database and choose a password. Now, what happens when I go to one of my websites that I have an account on? Do I put in the user name and the new pass word that I set up with KeePass? How does the website know that there is a new password? I didn't go and change it on each site.

On 9/23/2022 9:04 AM, soner wrote:

hello, you do not need to pay for password managers. You can use
KeepAssXC which is free, open source and accccessible with which you
could hide your passwords in its encrypted database and save it in
your USB drive or on cloud.

On 9/23/22, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:

Hi Robin,



You like the same things about KeePass on the computer that I do.
I'll add that I got the KeePass for Windows free and KeePass Touch for 99 cents.
This
was a very hard price to beat. And I much prefer to manage all my
KeePass passwords on my computer with a full-sized keyboard and use
the iOS app for pasting passwords when needed.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant,
Robin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers



Alan,

Your steps were very straightforward. I think I've done this
before, but it
felt cleaner this time, for whatever reason. I'm saving your steps. To
your point, I think the browse thing used to open to iCloud by
default and that was throwing me off. This time, it opened to Dropbox immediately.
Interestingly, as I swipe to hear the files in my DropBox list, I am
hearing VO say "in iCloud" just before the date and file size. Not
sure why that is, but the header at the top clearly says Dropbox and
it's the list of files on my DropBox account.



I'm sticking with managing my entries on my laptop. I just couldn't'
figure out how to get a change I made on the database with KeePass
Touch to save to the file on Dropbox. It's like KeePass doesn't
fully support a true synching
option, even though I selected that option when I set up the app. It
would
be nice, but I once overwrote some entries when I saved my iPhone
file back to Dropbox, so I'm a bit gun shy about it.



I do find the Window app very easy to use with JAWS. I like the
simplicity of the interface, use of context menus and old-fashioned menu system.



Robin











From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Alan
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



Hi Robin,



I also use KeePass on my Windows 10 computer and KeePass Touch on my
iPhone
13 Mini. Those two are both accessible and enable me to store what I
need without any fuss. I like that when a KeePass Touch entry is
open on my iPhone, I can swipe to the password field and do a single
finger double tap on the screen and the password value is
automatically copied to the clipboard for easy pasting elsewhere. I
always manage my KeePass password entries on my desktop computer
because I find having a full screen keyboard available for input
much easier. I also keep my KeePass database file in a Dropbox
folder and these are the steps I use to update that database file on
my iPhone when I've changed the database on my computer:



1. Open KeePass Touch. If the app prompts you for Face or Touch ID and
opens your database file, place focus on the Files back button in
the upper left corner of the screen and double tap.
2. If you don't automatically open an existing database file, you
should already be on the Files screen.
3. On the bottomline toolbar at the far right is an Add button which
you should double tap.
4. You'll be given options to Create new database or Import. Execute
Import.
5. Two mor options of Browse and Cancel will appear and you should
execute Browse.
6. I think because I upgraded to iOS 16 earlier today, I was taken
directly to iCloud drive which I did not want so I executed the More
button from the top line menu.
7. I then swiped to Dropbox and double tapped.
8. I then swiped to the applicable KeePass database file and double
tapped on it causing it to load and for KeePass Touch via Voiceover
to provide the most recently date of update. Touch or Face ID should
have granted access provided you have them set up here.



I believe those steps were fewer by two or three steps the last time
I did this but as I said, I updated to iOS 16 earlier today and I
expect that caused the steps to be a bit different.



I'm not totally up-to-date on the latest news but I'm pretty sure I
heard something in the past few days about LastPass being hacked.
You might let your employers know about that.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Van
Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone. It's very
accessible with a simple interface, although I'm sure I'm not using
it to the fullest. My only annoyance, and this is likely my
ignorance, is that I'm storing the shared file on DropBox and it
doesn't' seem like my iPhone opens the newest version of that file
on my phone. It might work better if I was storin the file on
iTunes, but I just haven't gotten there or spent the time to
research it. Because of this, I only update the database on my
Windows laptop and just pull the new file to my phone. I just don't have the synching sorted out in my head.



But I like that it is free and a really simple interface. I haven't tried
any other apps. My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore
that, but it's low on the list of things to conquer.



Robin





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<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Drew
Hunthausen
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 10:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: password managers



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Hi list,

Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also
have an Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used "dashlane" before? Thanks for any info.



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Hi Marty,

What I would do in your described scenario is to go to the website, open KeePass with the custom shortcut I've created, look up the appropriate entry in my KeePass database, and then do a ctrl + b to copy the username followed by a ctrl + c to copy the password which I would pasted in the appropriate places on the website. I'm not a fan of automatic entry of anything so I much prefer to do the copying and pasting steps manually.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 2:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers

I have downloaded and installed KeePass. I set up a new database and choose a password. Now, what happens when I go to one of my websites that I have an account on? Do I put in the user name and the new pass word that I set up with KeePass? How does the website know that there is a new password? I didn't go and change it on each site.

On 9/23/2022 9:04 AM, soner wrote:

hello, you do not need to pay for password managers. You can use
KeepAssXC which is free, open source and accccessible with which you
could hide your passwords in its encrypted database and save it in
your USB drive or on cloud.

On 9/23/22, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:

Hi Robin,



You like the same things about KeePass on the computer that I do.
I'll add that I got the KeePass for Windows free and KeePass Touch for 99 cents.
This
was a very hard price to beat. And I much prefer to manage all my
KeePass passwords on my computer with a full-sized keyboard and use
the iOS app for pasting passwords when needed.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant,
Robin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers



Alan,

Your steps were very straightforward. I think I've done this before,
but it
felt cleaner this time, for whatever reason. I'm saving your steps. To
your point, I think the browse thing used to open to iCloud by
default and that was throwing me off. This time, it opened to Dropbox immediately.
Interestingly, as I swipe to hear the files in my DropBox list, I am
hearing VO say "in iCloud" just before the date and file size. Not
sure why that is, but the header at the top clearly says Dropbox and
it's the list of files on my DropBox account.



I'm sticking with managing my entries on my laptop. I just couldn't'
figure out how to get a change I made on the database with KeePass
Touch to save to the file on Dropbox. It's like KeePass doesn't fully
support a true synching
option, even though I selected that option when I set up the app. It
would
be nice, but I once overwrote some entries when I saved my iPhone
file back to Dropbox, so I'm a bit gun shy about it.



I do find the Window app very easy to use with JAWS. I like the
simplicity of the interface, use of context menus and old-fashioned menu system.



Robin











From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Alan
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



Hi Robin,



I also use KeePass on my Windows 10 computer and KeePass Touch on my
iPhone
13 Mini. Those two are both accessible and enable me to store what I
need without any fuss. I like that when a KeePass Touch entry is open
on my iPhone, I can swipe to the password field and do a single
finger double tap on the screen and the password value is
automatically copied to the clipboard for easy pasting elsewhere. I
always manage my KeePass password entries on my desktop computer
because I find having a full screen keyboard available for input much
easier. I also keep my KeePass database file in a Dropbox folder and
these are the steps I use to update that database file on my iPhone
when I've changed the database on my computer:



1. Open KeePass Touch. If the app prompts you for Face or Touch ID and
opens your database file, place focus on the Files back button in the
upper left corner of the screen and double tap.
2. If you don't automatically open an existing database file, you
should already be on the Files screen.
3. On the bottomline toolbar at the far right is an Add button which
you should double tap.
4. You'll be given options to Create new database or Import. Execute
Import.
5. Two mor options of Browse and Cancel will appear and you should
execute Browse.
6. I think because I upgraded to iOS 16 earlier today, I was taken
directly to iCloud drive which I did not want so I executed the More
button from the top line menu.
7. I then swiped to Dropbox and double tapped.
8. I then swiped to the applicable KeePass database file and double
tapped on it causing it to load and for KeePass Touch via Voiceover
to provide the most recently date of update. Touch or Face ID should
have granted access provided you have them set up here.



I believe those steps were fewer by two or three steps the last time
I did this but as I said, I updated to iOS 16 earlier today and I
expect that caused the steps to be a bit different.



I'm not totally up-to-date on the latest news but I'm pretty sure I
heard something in the past few days about LastPass being hacked. You
might let your employers know about that.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Van
Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone. It's very
accessible with a simple interface, although I'm sure I'm not using
it to the fullest. My only annoyance, and this is likely my
ignorance, is that I'm storing the shared file on DropBox and it
doesn't' seem like my iPhone opens the newest version of that file
on my phone. It might work better if I was storin the file on
iTunes, but I just haven't gotten there or spent the time to research
it. Because of this, I only update the database on my Windows laptop
and just pull the new file to my phone. I just don't have the synching sorted out in my head.



But I like that it is free and a really simple interface. I haven't tried
any other apps. My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore
that, but it's low on the list of things to conquer.



Robin





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Drew
Hunthausen
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 10:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: password managers



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Hi list,

Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also
have an Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used "dashlane" before? Thanks for any info.



KeyCorp Public

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127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114

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hello, you do not need to pay for password managers. You can use
KeepAssXC which is free, open source and accccessible with which you
could hide your passwords in its encrypted database and save it in
your USB drive or on cloud.

On 9/23/22, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:

Hi Robin,



You like the same things about KeePass on the computer that I do.
I'll add that I got the KeePass for Windows free and KeePass Touch for 99 cents.
This
was a very hard price to beat. And I much prefer to manage all my
KeePass passwords on my computer with a full-sized keyboard and use
the iOS app for pasting passwords when needed.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant,
Robin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers



Alan,

Your steps were very straightforward. I think I've done this before,
but it
felt cleaner this time, for whatever reason. I'm saving your steps. To
your point, I think the browse thing used to open to iCloud by
default and that was throwing me off. This time, it opened to Dropbox immediately.
Interestingly, as I swipe to hear the files in my DropBox list, I am
hearing VO say "in iCloud" just before the date and file size. Not
sure why that is, but the header at the top clearly says Dropbox and
it's the list of files on my DropBox account.



I'm sticking with managing my entries on my laptop. I just couldn't'
figure out how to get a change I made on the database with KeePass
Touch to save to the file on Dropbox. It's like KeePass doesn't fully
support a true synching
option, even though I selected that option when I set up the app. It
would
be nice, but I once overwrote some entries when I saved my iPhone
file back to Dropbox, so I'm a bit gun shy about it.



I do find the Window app very easy to use with JAWS. I like the
simplicity of the interface, use of context menus and old-fashioned menu system.



Robin











From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Alan
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



Hi Robin,



I also use KeePass on my Windows 10 computer and KeePass Touch on my
iPhone
13 Mini. Those two are both accessible and enable me to store what I
need without any fuss. I like that when a KeePass Touch entry is open
on my iPhone, I can swipe to the password field and do a single
finger double tap on the screen and the password value is
automatically copied to the clipboard for easy pasting elsewhere. I
always manage my KeePass password entries on my desktop computer
because I find having a full screen keyboard available for input much
easier. I also keep my KeePass database file in a Dropbox folder and
these are the steps I use to update that database file on my iPhone
when I've changed the database on my computer:



1. Open KeePass Touch. If the app prompts you for Face or Touch ID and
opens your database file, place focus on the Files back button in the
upper left corner of the screen and double tap.
2. If you don't automatically open an existing database file, you
should already be on the Files screen.
3. On the bottomline toolbar at the far right is an Add button which
you should double tap.
4. You'll be given options to Create new database or Import. Execute
Import.
5. Two mor options of Browse and Cancel will appear and you should
execute Browse.
6. I think because I upgraded to iOS 16 earlier today, I was taken
directly to iCloud drive which I did not want so I executed the More
button from the top line menu.
7. I then swiped to Dropbox and double tapped.
8. I then swiped to the applicable KeePass database file and double
tapped on it causing it to load and for KeePass Touch via Voiceover
to provide the most recently date of update. Touch or Face ID should
have granted access provided you have them set up here.



I believe those steps were fewer by two or three steps the last time
I did this but as I said, I updated to iOS 16 earlier today and I
expect that caused the steps to be a bit different.



I'm not totally up-to-date on the latest news but I'm pretty sure I
heard something in the past few days about LastPass being hacked. You
might let your employers know about that.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Van
Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone. It's very
accessible with a simple interface, although I'm sure I'm not using
it to the fullest. My only annoyance, and this is likely my
ignorance, is that I'm storing the shared file on DropBox and it
doesn't' seem like my iPhone opens the newest version of that file
on my phone. It might work better if I was storin the file on
iTunes, but I just haven't gotten there or spent the time to research
it. Because of this, I only update the database on my Windows laptop
and just pull the new file to my phone. I just don't have the synching sorted out in my head.



But I like that it is free and a really simple interface. I haven't tried
any other apps. My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore
that, but it's low on the list of things to conquer.



Robin





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Drew
Hunthausen
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 10:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: password managers



WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think
before clicking links or opening attachments.



Hi list,

Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also
have an Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used "dashlane" before? Thanks for any info.



KeyCorp Public

KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. prohibits the use of texts or other
unapproved messaging applications for business purposes.

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information.
It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No
confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any
transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are
strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using
any of this information. If you have received this communication in
error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material
in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy.

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offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction
or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not
intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any
transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view,
opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to
completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and
KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to
update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the
individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.

The sender of this communication is a licensed securities
representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets
Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National
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offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A.

127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114

If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or
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hello, you do not need to pay for password managers. You can use
KeepAssXC which is free, open source and accccessible with which you
could hide your passwords in its encrypted database and save it in
your USB drive or on cloud.

On 9/23/22, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:

Hi Robin,



You like the same things about KeePass on the computer that I do.
I'll add that I got the KeePass for Windows free and KeePass Touch for 99 cents.
This
was a very hard price to beat. And I much prefer to manage all my
KeePass passwords on my computer with a full-sized keyboard and use
the iOS app for pasting passwords when needed.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant,
Robin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers



Alan,

Your steps were very straightforward. I think I've done this before,
but it
felt cleaner this time, for whatever reason. I'm saving your steps. To
your point, I think the browse thing used to open to iCloud by
default and that was throwing me off. This time, it opened to Dropbox immediately.
Interestingly, as I swipe to hear the files in my DropBox list, I am
hearing VO say "in iCloud" just before the date and file size. Not
sure why that is, but the header at the top clearly says Dropbox and
it's the list of files on my DropBox account.



I'm sticking with managing my entries on my laptop. I just couldn't'
figure out how to get a change I made on the database with KeePass
Touch to save to the file on Dropbox. It's like KeePass doesn't fully
support a true synching
option, even though I selected that option when I set up the app. It
would
be nice, but I once overwrote some entries when I saved my iPhone
file back to Dropbox, so I'm a bit gun shy about it.



I do find the Window app very easy to use with JAWS. I like the
simplicity of the interface, use of context menus and old-fashioned menu system.



Robin











From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Alan
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



Hi Robin,



I also use KeePass on my Windows 10 computer and KeePass Touch on my
iPhone
13 Mini. Those two are both accessible and enable me to store what I
need without any fuss. I like that when a KeePass Touch entry is open
on my iPhone, I can swipe to the password field and do a single
finger double tap on the screen and the password value is
automatically copied to the clipboard for easy pasting elsewhere. I
always manage my KeePass password entries on my desktop computer
because I find having a full screen keyboard available for input much
easier. I also keep my KeePass database file in a Dropbox folder and
these are the steps I use to update that database file on my iPhone
when I've changed the database on my computer:



1. Open KeePass Touch. If the app prompts you for Face or Touch ID and
opens your database file, place focus on the Files back button in the
upper left corner of the screen and double tap.
2. If you don't automatically open an existing database file, you
should already be on the Files screen.
3. On the bottomline toolbar at the far right is an Add button which
you should double tap.
4. You'll be given options to Create new database or Import. Execute
Import.
5. Two mor options of Browse and Cancel will appear and you should
execute Browse.
6. I think because I upgraded to iOS 16 earlier today, I was taken
directly to iCloud drive which I did not want so I executed the More
button from the top line menu.
7. I then swiped to Dropbox and double tapped.
8. I then swiped to the applicable KeePass database file and double
tapped on it causing it to load and for KeePass Touch via Voiceover
to provide the most recently date of update. Touch or Face ID should
have granted access provided you have them set up here.



I believe those steps were fewer by two or three steps the last time
I did this but as I said, I updated to iOS 16 earlier today and I
expect that caused the steps to be a bit different.



I'm not totally up-to-date on the latest news but I'm pretty sure I
heard something in the past few days about LastPass being hacked. You
might let your employers know about that.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Van
Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone. It's very
accessible with a simple interface, although I'm sure I'm not using
it to the fullest. My only annoyance, and this is likely my
ignorance, is that I'm storing the shared file on DropBox and it
doesn't' seem like my iPhone opens the newest version of that file
on my phone. It might work better if I was storin the file on
iTunes, but I just haven't gotten there or spent the time to research
it. Because of this, I only update the database on my Windows laptop
and just pull the new file to my phone. I just don't have the synching sorted out in my head.



But I like that it is free and a really simple interface. I haven't tried
any other apps. My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore
that, but it's low on the list of things to conquer.



Robin





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Drew
Hunthausen
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 10:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: password managers



WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think
before clicking links or opening attachments.



Hi list,

Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also
have an Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used "dashlane" before? Thanks for any info.



KeyCorp Public

KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. prohibits the use of texts or other
unapproved messaging applications for business purposes.

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information.
It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No
confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any
transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are
strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using
any of this information. If you have received this communication in
error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material
in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy.

This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an
offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction
or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not
intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any
transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view,
opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to
completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and
KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to
update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the
individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.

The sender of this communication is a licensed securities
representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets
Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National
Association ("KeyBank N.A."). Securities products and services are
offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A.

127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114

If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or
services from Key send an e-mail to DNERequests@...
<mailto:DNERequests@...> with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.

hello, you do not need to pay for password managers. You can use
KeepAssXC which is free, open source and accccessible with which you
could hide your passwords in its encrypted database and save it in
your USB drive or on cloud.

On 9/23/22, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:

Hi Robin,



You like the same things about KeePass on the computer that I do.
I'll add that I got the KeePass for Windows free and KeePass Touch for 99 cents.
This
was a very hard price to beat. And I much prefer to manage all my
KeePass passwords on my computer with a full-sized keyboard and use
the iOS app for pasting passwords when needed.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant,
Robin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers



Alan,

Your steps were very straightforward. I think I've done this before,
but it
felt cleaner this time, for whatever reason. I'm saving your steps. To
your point, I think the browse thing used to open to iCloud by
default and that was throwing me off. This time, it opened to Dropbox immediately.
Interestingly, as I swipe to hear the files in my DropBox list, I am
hearing VO say "in iCloud" just before the date and file size. Not
sure why that is, but the header at the top clearly says Dropbox and
it's the list of files on my DropBox account.



I'm sticking with managing my entries on my laptop. I just couldn't'
figure out how to get a change I made on the database with KeePass
Touch to save to the file on Dropbox. It's like KeePass doesn't fully
support a true synching
option, even though I selected that option when I set up the app. It
would
be nice, but I once overwrote some entries when I saved my iPhone
file back to Dropbox, so I'm a bit gun shy about it.



I do find the Window app very easy to use with JAWS. I like the
simplicity of the interface, use of context menus and old-fashioned menu system.



Robin











From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Alan
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



Hi Robin,



I also use KeePass on my Windows 10 computer and KeePass Touch on my
iPhone
13 Mini. Those two are both accessible and enable me to store what I
need without any fuss. I like that when a KeePass Touch entry is open
on my iPhone, I can swipe to the password field and do a single
finger double tap on the screen and the password value is
automatically copied to the clipboard for easy pasting elsewhere. I
always manage my KeePass password entries on my desktop computer
because I find having a full screen keyboard available for input much
easier. I also keep my KeePass database file in a Dropbox folder and
these are the steps I use to update that database file on my iPhone
when I've changed the database on my computer:



1. Open KeePass Touch. If the app prompts you for Face or Touch ID and
opens your database file, place focus on the Files back button in the
upper left corner of the screen and double tap.
2. If you don't automatically open an existing database file, you
should already be on the Files screen.
3. On the bottomline toolbar at the far right is an Add button which
you should double tap.
4. You'll be given options to Create new database or Import. Execute
Import.
5. Two mor options of Browse and Cancel will appear and you should
execute Browse.
6. I think because I upgraded to iOS 16 earlier today, I was taken
directly to iCloud drive which I did not want so I executed the More
button from the top line menu.
7. I then swiped to Dropbox and double tapped.
8. I then swiped to the applicable KeePass database file and double
tapped on it causing it to load and for KeePass Touch via Voiceover
to provide the most recently date of update. Touch or Face ID should
have granted access provided you have them set up here.



I believe those steps were fewer by two or three steps the last time
I did this but as I said, I updated to iOS 16 earlier today and I
expect that caused the steps to be a bit different.



I'm not totally up-to-date on the latest news but I'm pretty sure I
heard something in the past few days about LastPass being hacked. You
might let your employers know about that.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Van
Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone. It's very
accessible with a simple interface, although I'm sure I'm not using
it to the fullest. My only annoyance, and this is likely my
ignorance, is that I'm storing the shared file on DropBox and it
doesn't' seem like my iPhone opens the newest version of that file
on my phone. It might work better if I was storin the file on
iTunes, but I just haven't gotten there or spent the time to research
it. Because of this, I only update the database on my Windows laptop
and just pull the new file to my phone. I just don't have the synching sorted out in my head.



But I like that it is free and a really simple interface. I haven't tried
any other apps. My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore
that, but it's low on the list of things to conquer.



Robin





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Drew
Hunthausen
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 10:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: password managers



WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think
before clicking links or opening attachments.



Hi list,

Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also
have an Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used "dashlane" before? Thanks for any info.



KeyCorp Public

KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. prohibits the use of texts or other
unapproved messaging applications for business purposes.

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information.
It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No
confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any
transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are
strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using
any of this information. If you have received this communication in
error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material
in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy.

This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an
offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction
or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not
intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any
transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view,
opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to
completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and
KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to
update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the
individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.

The sender of this communication is a licensed securities
representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets
Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National
Association ("KeyBank N.A."). Securities products and services are
offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A.

127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114

If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or
services from Key send an e-mail to DNERequests@...
<mailto:DNERequests@...> with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.

hello, you do not need to pay for password managers. You can use
KeepAssXC which is free, open source and accccessible with which you
could hide your passwords in its encrypted database and save it in
your USB drive or on cloud.

On 9/23/22, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:

Hi Robin,



You like the same things about KeePass on the computer that I do. I'll add
that I got the KeePass for Windows free and KeePass Touch for 99 cents.
This
was a very hard price to beat. And I much prefer to manage all my KeePass
passwords on my computer with a full-sized keyboard and use the iOS app for
pasting passwords when needed.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin
via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers



Alan,

Your steps were very straightforward. I think I've done this before, but
it
felt cleaner this time, for whatever reason. I'm saving your steps. To
your point, I think the browse thing used to open to iCloud by default and
that was throwing me off. This time, it opened to Dropbox immediately.
Interestingly, as I swipe to hear the files in my DropBox list, I am
hearing
VO say "in iCloud" just before the date and file size. Not sure why that
is, but the header at the top clearly says Dropbox and it's the list of
files on my DropBox account.



I'm sticking with managing my entries on my laptop. I just couldn't' figure
out how to get a change I made on the database with KeePass Touch to save
to
the file on Dropbox. It's like KeePass doesn't fully support a true
synching
option, even though I selected that option when I set up the app. It
would
be nice, but I once overwrote some entries when I saved my iPhone file
back
to Dropbox, so I'm a bit gun shy about it.



I do find the Window app very easy to use with JAWS. I like the simplicity
of the interface, use of context menus and old-fashioned menu system.



Robin











From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



Hi Robin,



I also use KeePass on my Windows 10 computer and KeePass Touch on my iPhone
13 Mini. Those two are both accessible and enable me to store what I need
without any fuss. I like that when a KeePass Touch entry is open on my
iPhone, I can swipe to the password field and do a single finger double tap
on the screen and the password value is automatically copied to the
clipboard for easy pasting elsewhere. I always manage my KeePass password
entries on my desktop computer because I find having a full screen keyboard
available for input much easier. I also keep my KeePass database file in a
Dropbox folder and these are the steps I use to update that database file
on
my iPhone when I've changed the database on my computer:



1. Open KeePass Touch. If the app prompts you for Face or Touch ID and
opens your database file, place focus on the Files back button in the upper
left corner of the screen and double tap.
2. If you don't automatically open an existing database file, you
should already be on the Files screen.
3. On the bottomline toolbar at the far right is an Add button which
you should double tap.
4. You'll be given options to Create new database or Import. Execute
Import.
5. Two mor options of Browse and Cancel will appear and you should
execute Browse.
6. I think because I upgraded to iOS 16 earlier today, I was taken
directly to iCloud drive which I did not want so I executed the More button
from the top line menu.
7. I then swiped to Dropbox and double tapped.
8. I then swiped to the applicable KeePass database file and double
tapped on it causing it to load and for KeePass Touch via Voiceover to
provide the most recently date of update. Touch or Face ID should have
granted access provided you have them set up here.



I believe those steps were fewer by two or three steps the last time I did
this but as I said, I updated to iOS 16 earlier today and I expect that
caused the steps to be a bit different.



I'm not totally up-to-date on the latest news but I'm pretty sure I heard
something in the past few days about LastPass being hacked. You might let
your employers know about that.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone. It's very
accessible with a simple interface, although I'm sure I'm not using it to
the fullest. My only annoyance, and this is likely my ignorance, is that
I'm storing the shared file on DropBox and it doesn't' seem like my iPhone
opens the newest version of that file on my phone. It might work better if
I was storin the file on iTunes, but I just haven't gotten there or spent
the time to research it. Because of this, I only update the database on my
Windows laptop and just pull the new file to my phone. I just don't have
the synching sorted out in my head.



But I like that it is free and a really simple interface. I haven't tried
any other apps. My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore
that, but it's low on the list of things to conquer.



Robin





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 10:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: password managers



WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before
clicking links or opening attachments.



Hi list,

Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also have an
Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used "dashlane" before? Thanks for any info.



KeyCorp Public

KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. prohibits the use of texts or other unapproved
messaging applications for business purposes.

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information.
It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or
privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you
are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from
disclosing,
copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have
received
this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and
destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy.

This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer,
solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or
sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as
investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market
price,
indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein
is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change
without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for
its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of
the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.

The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative
employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member
FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association ("KeyBank
N.A."). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital
Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A.

127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114

If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services
from Key send an e-mail to DNERequests@... <mailto:DNERequests@...>
with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.

Hi Robin,



You like the same things about KeePass on the computer that I do. I'll add
that I got the KeePass for Windows free and KeePass Touch for 99 cents.
This
was a very hard price to beat. And I much prefer to manage all my KeePass
passwords on my computer with a full-sized keyboard and use the iOS app for
pasting passwords when needed.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin
via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers



Alan,

Your steps were very straightforward. I think I've done this before, but
it
felt cleaner this time, for whatever reason. I'm saving your steps. To
your point, I think the browse thing used to open to iCloud by default and
that was throwing me off. This time, it opened to Dropbox immediately.
Interestingly, as I swipe to hear the files in my DropBox list, I am
hearing
VO say "in iCloud" just before the date and file size. Not sure why that
is, but the header at the top clearly says Dropbox and it's the list of
files on my DropBox account.



I'm sticking with managing my entries on my laptop. I just couldn't' figure
out how to get a change I made on the database with KeePass Touch to save
to
the file on Dropbox. It's like KeePass doesn't fully support a true
synching
option, even though I selected that option when I set up the app. It
would
be nice, but I once overwrote some entries when I saved my iPhone file
back
to Dropbox, so I'm a bit gun shy about it.



I do find the Window app very easy to use with JAWS. I like the simplicity
of the interface, use of context menus and old-fashioned menu system.



Robin











From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



Hi Robin,



I also use KeePass on my Windows 10 computer and KeePass Touch on my iPhone
13 Mini. Those two are both accessible and enable me to store what I need
without any fuss. I like that when a KeePass Touch entry is open on my
iPhone, I can swipe to the password field and do a single finger double tap
on the screen and the password value is automatically copied to the
clipboard for easy pasting elsewhere. I always manage my KeePass password
entries on my desktop computer because I find having a full screen keyboard
available for input much easier. I also keep my KeePass database file in a
Dropbox folder and these are the steps I use to update that database file
on
my iPhone when I've changed the database on my computer:



1. Open KeePass Touch. If the app prompts you for Face or Touch ID and
opens your database file, place focus on the Files back button in the upper
left corner of the screen and double tap.
2. If you don't automatically open an existing database file, you
should already be on the Files screen.
3. On the bottomline toolbar at the far right is an Add button which
you should double tap.
4. You'll be given options to Create new database or Import. Execute
Import.
5. Two mor options of Browse and Cancel will appear and you should
execute Browse.
6. I think because I upgraded to iOS 16 earlier today, I was taken
directly to iCloud drive which I did not want so I executed the More button
from the top line menu.
7. I then swiped to Dropbox and double tapped.
8. I then swiped to the applicable KeePass database file and double
tapped on it causing it to load and for KeePass Touch via Voiceover to
provide the most recently date of update. Touch or Face ID should have
granted access provided you have them set up here.



I believe those steps were fewer by two or three steps the last time I did
this but as I said, I updated to iOS 16 earlier today and I expect that
caused the steps to be a bit different.



I'm not totally up-to-date on the latest news but I'm pretty sure I heard
something in the past few days about LastPass being hacked. You might let
your employers know about that.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone. It's very
accessible with a simple interface, although I'm sure I'm not using it to
the fullest. My only annoyance, and this is likely my ignorance, is that
I'm storing the shared file on DropBox and it doesn't' seem like my iPhone
opens the newest version of that file on my phone. It might work better if
I was storin the file on iTunes, but I just haven't gotten there or spent
the time to research it. Because of this, I only update the database on my
Windows laptop and just pull the new file to my phone. I just don't have
the synching sorted out in my head.



But I like that it is free and a really simple interface. I haven't tried
any other apps. My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore
that, but it's low on the list of things to conquer.



Robin





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Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also have an
Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used "dashlane" before? Thanks for any info.



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Alan,

Your steps were very straightforward.  I think I’ve done this before, but it felt cleaner this time, for whatever reason.  I’m saving your steps.   To your point, I think the browse thing used to open to iCloud by default and that was throwing me off. This time, it opened to Dropbox immediately.   Interestingly, as I swipe to hear the files in my DropBox list, I am hearing VO say “in iCloud”  just before the date and file size.  Not sure why that is, but the header at the top clearly says Dropbox and it’s the list of files on my DropBox account.

I’m sticking with managing my entries on my laptop. I just couldn’t’ figure out how to get a change I made on the database with KeePass Touch to save to the file on Dropbox. It’s like KeePass doesn’t fully support a true synching option, even though I selected that option when I set up the app.   It would be nice, but I once  overwrote some entries when I saved my iPhone file back to Dropbox, so I’m a bit gun shy about it. 

I do find the Window app very easy to use with JAWS.  I like the simplicity of the interface, use of context menus and old-fashioned menu system.

Robin

Hi Robin,

I also use KeePass on my Windows 10 computer and KeePass Touch on my iPhone 13 Mini. Those two are both accessible and enable me to store what I need without any fuss. I like that when a KeePass Touch entry is open on my iPhone, I can swipe to the password field and do a single finger double tap on the screen and the password value is automatically copied to the clipboard for easy pasting elsewhere. I always manage my KeePass password  entries on my desktop computer because I find having a full screen keyboard available for input much easier. I also keep my KeePass database file in a Dropbox folder and these are the steps I use to update that database file on my iPhone when I’ve changed the database on my computer:

1. Open KeePass Touch. If the app prompts you for Face or Touch ID and opens your database file, place focus on the Files back button in the upper left corner of the screen and double tap.
2. If you don’t automatically open an existing database file, you should already be on the Files screen.
3. On the bottomline toolbar at the far right is an Add button which you should double tap.
4. You’ll be given options to Create new database or Import. Execute Import.
5. Two mor options of Browse and Cancel will appear and you should execute Browse.
6. I think because I upgraded to iOS 16 earlier today, I was taken directly to iCloud drive which I did not want so I executed the More button from the top line menu.
7. I then swiped to Dropbox and double tapped.
8. I then swiped to the applicable KeePass database file and double tapped on it causing it to load and for KeePass Touch via Voiceover to provide the most recently date of update. Touch or Face ID should have granted access provided you have them set up here.

I believe those steps were fewer by two or three steps the last time I did this but as I said, I updated to iOS 16 earlier today and I expect that caused the steps to be a bit different.

I’m not totally up-to-date on the latest news but I’m pretty sure I heard something in the past few days about LastPass being hacked. You might let your employers know about that.

Alan Lemly

I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone.   It’s very accessible with a simple interface, although I’m sure I’m not using it to the fullest.  My only annoyance, and this is likely my ignorance, is that I’m storing the shared file on DropBox and it doesn’t’ seem like  my iPhone opens the newest version of that file on my phone.  It might work better if I was storin the file on iTunes, but I just haven’t gotten there or spent the time to research it. Because of this, I only update the database on my Windows laptop and  just pull the new file to my phone. I just don’t have the synching sorted out in my head.

But I like that it is free and a really simple interface.  I haven’t tried  any other apps.   My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore that, but it’s low on the list of things to conquer.

Robin

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Hi Robin,

I also use KeePass on my Windows 10 computer and KeePass Touch on my iPhone 13 Mini. Those two are both accessible and enable me to store what I need without any fuss. I like that when a KeePass Touch entry is open on my iPhone, I can swipe to the password field and do a single finger double tap on the screen and the password value is automatically copied to the clipboard for easy pasting elsewhere. I always manage my KeePass password  entries on my desktop computer because I find having a full screen keyboard available for input much easier. I also keep my KeePass database file in a Dropbox folder and these are the steps I use to update that database file on my iPhone when I’ve changed the database on my computer:

1. Open KeePass Touch. If the app prompts you for Face or Touch ID and opens your database file, place focus on the Files back button in the upper left corner of the screen and double tap.
2. If you don’t automatically open an existing database file, you should already be on the Files screen.
3. On the bottomline toolbar at the far right is an Add button which you should double tap.
4. You’ll be given options to Create new database or Import. Execute Import.
5. Two mor options of Browse and Cancel will appear and you should execute Browse.
6. I think because I upgraded to iOS 16 earlier today, I was taken directly to iCloud drive which I did not want so I executed the More button from the top line menu.
7. I then swiped to Dropbox and double tapped.
8. I then swiped to the applicable KeePass database file and double tapped on it causing it to load and for KeePass Touch via Voiceover to provide the most recently date of update. Touch or Face ID should have granted access provided you have them set up here.

I believe those steps were fewer by two or three steps the last time I did this but as I said, I updated to iOS 16 earlier today and I expect that caused the steps to be a bit different.

I’m not totally up-to-date on the latest news but I’m pretty sure I heard something in the past few days about LastPass being hacked. You might let your employers know about that.

Alan Lemly

I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone.   It’s very accessible with a simple interface, although I’m sure I’m not using it to the fullest.  My only annoyance, and this is likely my ignorance, is that I’m storing the shared file on DropBox and it doesn’t’ seem like  my iPhone opens the newest version of that file on my phone.  It might work better if I was storin the file on iTunes, but I just haven’t gotten there or spent the time to research it. Because of this, I only update the database on my Windows laptop and  just pull the new file to my phone. I just don’t have the synching sorted out in my head.

But I like that it is free and a really simple interface.  I haven’t tried  any other apps.   My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore that, but it’s low on the list of things to conquer.

Robin

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I have been using 1Password. Unfortunately, they are having some accessibility issues with the newest version. 

You mentioned wanting something that worked with IOS. If you use a chrome based browser, There is now an extention for Apple Keychain. It came out in May or June. I haven't tried it, but I've read it works well, and I'm considering it.

PW Safe works well and is free for Windows.  The iOS version is very accessible but there is a one time charge for the app.  You can share the database between your iOS device and Windows using dropbox but there is a charge for that feature.  You can also install iCloud for Windows and access the database across both platforms and that option is free.  I have been using PW Safe on my Mac, iPhone and Win 10/11 machines for about 10 years without any issue.  

I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone. It's very
accessible with a simple interface, although I'm sure I'm not using it to
the fullest. My only annoyance, and this is likely my ignorance, is that
I'm storing the shared file on DropBox and it doesn't' seem like my
iPhone
opens the newest version of that file on my phone. It might work better
if
I was storin the file on iTunes, but I just haven't gotten there or spent
the time to research it. Because of this, I only update the database on my
Windows laptop and just pull the new file to my phone. I just don't have
the synching sorted out in my head.

But I like that it is free and a really simple interface. I haven't tried
any other apps. My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore
that, but it's low on the list of things to conquer.

Robin


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Subject: password managers


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Hi list,
Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also have an
Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used "dashlane" before? Thanks for any
info.



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I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone.   It’s very accessible with a simple interface, although I’m sure I’m not using it to the fullest.  My only annoyance, and this is likely my ignorance, is that I’m storing the shared file on DropBox and it doesn’t’ seem like  my iPhone opens the newest version of that file on my phone.  It might work better if I was storin the file on iTunes, but I just haven’t gotten there or spent the time to research it. Because of this, I only update the database on my Windows laptop and  just pull the new file to my phone. I just don’t have the synching sorted out in my head.

But I like that it is free and a really simple interface.  I haven’t tried  any other apps.   My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore that, but it’s low on the list of things to conquer.

Robin

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I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone. It's very
accessible with a simple interface, although I'm sure I'm not using it
to the fullest. My only annoyance, and this is likely my ignorance,
is that I'm storing the shared file on DropBox and it doesn't' seem
like my iPhone opens the newest version of that file on my phone. It
might work better if I was storin the file on iTunes, but I just
haven't gotten there or spent the time to research it. Because of
this, I only update the database on my Windows laptop and just pull
the new file to my phone. I just don't have the synching sorted out in my head.

But I like that it is free and a really simple interface. I haven't tried
any other apps. My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore
that, but it's low on the list of things to conquer.

Robin


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Hi list,
Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also
have an Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used "dashlane" before? Thanks for any info.



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On Sep 21, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Jed Barton <jedbarton@...> wrote:

So here's a question, how do these password managers work, never tried
1. So you go to a site that requires a password, how does that work?

On 9/21/22, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
<Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:

I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone. It's very
accessible with a simple interface, although I'm sure I'm not using it to
the fullest. My only annoyance, and this is likely my ignorance, is that
I'm storing the shared file on DropBox and it doesn't' seem like my iPhone
opens the newest version of that file on my phone. It might work better if
I was storin the file on iTunes, but I just haven't gotten there or spent
the time to research it. Because of this, I only update the database on my
Windows laptop and just pull the new file to my phone. I just don't have
the synching sorted out in my head.

But I like that it is free and a really simple interface. I haven't tried
any other apps. My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore
that, but it's low on the list of things to conquer.

Robin


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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 10:55 PM
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Subject: password managers


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Hi list,
Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also have an
Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used "dashlane" before? Thanks for any info.



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