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How do you bring up the voice on a Vizio?
Thanks
From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@...>
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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Vizeo? quite accessible!
Curtis Delzer
H.S.
K6VFO
 Rialto, CA
curtis@...
On 9/15/2022 6:07 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
> Hi All,
> We are looking for an accessible smart TV.
> Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more.
> Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs.
> I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is
> similar to
> the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with
> that deplorable voice in the TV menus.
> But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options,
> like
> scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too.
> Can anyone make any suggestions?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Glenn
>
>
>
>
>
How do you bring up the voice on a Vizio?
Thanks
From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Vizeo? quite accessible!
Curtis Delzer
H.S.
K6VFO
Rialto, CA
curtis@...
On 9/15/2022 6:07 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi All,
We are looking for an accessible smart TV.
Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more.
Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs.
I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is
similar to
the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with
that deplorable voice in the TV menus.
But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options,
like
scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too.
Can anyone make any suggestions?
Thanks.
Glenn
Gene...
alsknow anything about
Hi,
you can also get Android TV's, or Google TV, as the newer models are called.
Models running Android include TCL, Samsui, Philips, Sony, and I think some later Hisense offerings.
The way to enable accessibility on most models is by either pressing and holding down the mute button on the remote, or sometimes the back and menu buttons together, or by pressing and holding the volume up and down buttons simultaneously for a few seconds.
Some TCL devices run a proprietary operating system, and they have an accessibility option on US-Based systems. I don't know anything about other languages.
I think their system on some TV's is called VIDAA.
Sony are quite expensive, but they have good speakers included in their TV sets.
What makes most TV's expensive is their screen technology and size. So if you only want accessibility and are not going to have a lot of sighted visitors who will benefit from a larger screen size and hence a better viewing experience, just look for smaller TV's.
Also, depending on the screen technology in use, you have to consider the size of the room the TV will be set up in. This is owing to the fact that the viewing angle may or may not play a part.
Due to the way flatscreens are built, smaller TV's will often have thin and slightly tinny sound, so be prepared to either hook up a stereo or bluetooth speaker for a better sound experience, or better yet for a sound bar that will act as a modern external speaker.
Panasonic also have accessibility built into their TV's, but they ron a proprietary system.
Some people say that third-party apps are not that accessible on their devices. However, if you do not care for that and only want to watch TV using an antenna, cable or DVBT signal, then that may be your choice.
Just throwing this out there for completeness sake and for people to be able to look for alternatives.
Most models will have built-in connectors for satellite dishes, cable, and DVBT.
Samsung also have accessibility in their TV's, and if you're looking for apps, they are also a good choice.
LG is also known for a lot of apps on their TV's, and they also have accessibility on board.
Finally, you can find a lot of samples of different voices on Youtube. Just use accessibility TV plus the brand you're interested in.
Samsung call their accessibility option "Voice Guide", Amazon TV has "Voice View".
Not sure what the others call it on their systems. Try voice guide or guidance or similar.
There will be a lot of results on how to turn the feture off.
Hope that was helpful.
Happy watching,
Nermin
Thanks.
Claudia
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 10:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
I personally got a 43 inch FireTV by Amazon. The actual picture is not the best but useable I am led to believe. But For accessibility, it has been quite good in the Amazon supported apps and the major streaming apps. It gets trickier with the free and less known apps. I have connected an antenna for air-the-over channels and that works fairly well too. The switching to other inputs is accessible and depending on hardware the auto detect features work. I have an Apple TV 4k gen 1, accessible Blu-ray player and eARC soundbar. With all that, I can use the Fire TV remote for much of the operation of the components (Apple and Blu-ray included).
This has been my most accessible set up to date. The Apple TV was the most expensive part for me. 😊
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 8:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Hi All,
We are looking for an accessible smart TV.
Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more.
Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs.
I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus.
But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too.
Can anyone make any suggestions?
Thanks.
Glenn
you can also get Android TV's, or Google TV, as the newer models are called.
Models running Android include TCL, Samsui, Philips, Sony, and I think some later Hisense offerings.
The way to enable accessibility on most models is by either pressing and holding down the mute button on the remote, or sometimes the back and menu buttons together, or by pressing and holding the volume up and down buttons simultaneously for a few seconds.
Some TCL devices run a proprietary operating system, and they have an accessibility option on US-Based systems. I don't know anything about other languages.
I think their system on some TV's is called VIDAA.
Sony are quite expensive, but they have good speakers included in their TV sets.
What makes most TV's expensive is their screen technology and size. So if you only want accessibility and are not going to have a lot of sighted visitors who will benefit from a larger screen size and hence a better viewing experience, just look for smaller TV's.
Also, depending on the screen technology in use, you have to consider the size of the room the TV will be set up in. This is owing to the fact that the viewing angle may or may not play a part.
Due to the way flatscreens are built, smaller TV's will often have thin and slightly tinny sound, so be prepared to either hook up a stereo or bluetooth speaker for a better sound experience, or better yet for a sound bar that will act as a modern external speaker.
Panasonic also have accessibility built into their TV's, but they ron a proprietary system.
Some people say that third-party apps are not that accessible on their devices. However, if you do not care for that and only want to watch TV using an antenna, cable or DVBT signal, then that may be your choice.
Just throwing this out there for completeness sake and for people to be able to look for alternatives.
Most models will have built-in connectors for satellite dishes, cable, and DVBT.
Samsung also have accessibility in their TV's, and if you're looking for apps, they are also a good choice.
LG is also known for a lot of apps on their TV's, and they also have accessibility on board.
Finally, you can find a lot of samples of different voices on Youtube. Just use accessibility TV plus the brand you're interested in.
Samsung call their accessibility option "Voice Guide", Amazon TV has "Voice View".
Not sure what the others call it on their systems. Try voice guide or guidance or similar.
There will be a lot of results on how to turn the feture off.
Hope that was helpful.
Happy watching,
Nermin
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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
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On 9/16/2022 5:19 PM, Feliciano G wrote:
Hi,
From my experience, the insignia TVs that have fire TV included are not
worth the money. They seem to have slow processors and fire TV is slow and
unreliable. You are better off getting a fire cube or fire TV stick and
connect it to a TV.
Feliciano
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those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones
who do. -Steve JobsOn Sep 16, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
I wonder if folks can post the steps for invoking accessibility on their
TVs.
I want to be prepared to try that at the store if we don't get a fire TV.
Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Vizeo? quite accessible!
Curtis Delzer
H.S.
K6VFO
Rialto, CA
curtis@...On 9/15/2022 6:07 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi All,
We are looking for an accessible smart TV.
Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more.
Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs.
I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is
similar to
the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal
with
that deplorable voice in the TV menus.
But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options,
like
scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too.
Can anyone make any suggestions?
Thanks.
Glenn
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Gene...
Hi,
From my experience, the insignia TVs that have fire TV included are not worth the money. They seem to have slow processors and fire TV is slow and unreliable. You are better off getting a fire cube or fire TV stick and connect it to a TV.
Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve JobsOn Sep 16, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
I wonder if folks can post the steps for invoking accessibility on their
TVs.
I want to be prepared to try that at the store if we don't get a fire TV.
Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Vizeo? quite accessible!
Curtis Delzer
H.S.
K6VFO
Rialto, CA
curtis@...On 9/15/2022 6:07 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi All,
We are looking for an accessible smart TV.
Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more.
Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs.
I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is
similar to
the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with
that deplorable voice in the TV menus.
But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options,
like
scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too.
Can anyone make any suggestions?
Thanks.
Glenn
my Roku stick.
I have a HDMI to VGA adapter, it's about the same size as the Roku stick,
and I can plug in a little speaker and have a TV in my pocket.
The Firesticks have a male HDMI port, so I need an adapter with a female
end, or an gender bender for the HDMI to VGA adapter I already have.
Glenn
From: "Feliciano G" <theblindman12v@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Hi,
From my experience, the insignia TVs that have fire TV included are not
worth the money. They seem to have slow processors and fire TV is slow and
unreliable. You are better off getting a fire cube or fire TV stick and
connect it to a TV.
Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones
who do. -Steve Jobs
On Sep 16, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
I wonder if folks can post the steps for invoking accessibility on their
TVs.
I want to be prepared to try that at the store if we don't get a fire TV.
Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Vizeo? quite accessible!
Curtis Delzer
H.S.
K6VFO
Rialto, CA
curtis@...On 9/15/2022 6:07 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi All,
We are looking for an accessible smart TV.
Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more.
Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs.
I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is
similar to
the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with
that deplorable voice in the TV menus.
But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options,
like
scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too.
Can anyone make any suggestions?
Thanks.
Glenn
From my experience, the insignia TVs that have fire TV included are not worth the money. They seem to have slow processors and fire TV is slow and unreliable. You are better off getting a fire cube or fire TV stick and connect it to a TV.
Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs
On Sep 16, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
I wonder if folks can post the steps for invoking accessibility on their
TVs.
I want to be prepared to try that at the store if we don't get a fire TV.
Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Vizeo? quite accessible!
Curtis Delzer
H.S.
K6VFO
Rialto, CA
curtis@...On 9/15/2022 6:07 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi All,
We are looking for an accessible smart TV.
Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more.
Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs.
I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is
similar to
the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with
that deplorable voice in the TV menus.
But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options,
like
scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too.
Can anyone make any suggestions?
Thanks.
Glenn
TVs.
I want to be prepared to try that at the store if we don't get a fire TV.
Thanks.
From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Vizeo? quite accessible!
Curtis Delzer
H.S.
K6VFO
Rialto, CA
curtis@...
On 9/15/2022 6:07 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi All,
We are looking for an accessible smart TV.
Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more.
Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs.
I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is
similar to
the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with
that deplorable voice in the TV menus.
But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options,
like
scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too.
Can anyone make any suggestions?
Thanks.
Glenn
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner
Sent: September 16, 2022 11:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
The Blu-ray player I got is
Sony UBP-X700 4K Ultra HD Home Theater Streaming Blu-Ray Player link
It isn't 100% as I discovered when trying to configure WiFI and the firmware update wizard. But the rest of the features (non 3rd party apps) do speak using something that sounds much like Flite (open source small TTS). If someone knows of something even better, then I would love to hear from you.
The TV itself is
Amazon Fire TV 43" 4-Series 4K UHD smart TV link
I didn't care about picture quality and wanted something low cost and I have lots of echo devices and thus it meshes into my existing ecosystem.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Hi all!
Dan, I too would like to know more about this accessible blue ray player you have.
I would also like any recommendations anyone can offer for an accessible TV that I plan to use as a streaming player. I am going to cut the cord on cable later this year and currently don't have a TV or a streaming player. I tried a Roku stream bar and Roku's choice for a TTS is, in a word, criminal. It's basically like listening to someone with a mouth full of marbles.
Gene...
On 9/16/2022 11:01 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:
Hi Dan!
I noticed from your below that you have an " accessible Blu-ray player." May I ask what make and model it is?
Thanks,
Richard
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 8:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
I personally got a 43 inch FireTV by Amazon. The actual picture is not the best but useable I am led to believe. But For accessibility, it has been quite good in the Amazon supported apps and the major streaming apps. It gets trickier with the free and less known apps. I have connected an antenna for air-the-over channels and that works fairly well too. The switching to other inputs is accessible and depending on hardware the auto detect features work. I have an Apple TV 4k gen 1, accessible Blu-ray player and eARC soundbar. With all that, I can use the Fire TV remote for much of the operation of the components (Apple and Blu-ray included).
This has been my most accessible set up to date. The Apple TV was the
most expensive part for me. 😊
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 8:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Hi All,
We are looking for an accessible smart TV.
Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more.
Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs.
I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus.
But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too.
Can anyone make any suggestions?
Thanks.
Glenn
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: September 16, 2022 11:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Hi Dan!
I noticed from your below that you have an " accessible Blu-ray player." May I ask what make and model it is?
Thanks,
Richard
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 8:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
I personally got a 43 inch FireTV by Amazon. The actual picture is not the best but useable I am led to believe. But For accessibility, it has been quite good in the Amazon supported apps and the major streaming apps. It gets trickier with the free and less known apps. I have connected an antenna for air-the-over channels and that works fairly well too. The switching to other inputs is accessible and depending on hardware the auto detect features work. I have an Apple TV 4k gen 1, accessible Blu-ray player and eARC soundbar. With all that, I can use the Fire TV remote for much of the operation of the components (Apple and Blu-ray included).
This has been my most accessible set up to date. The Apple TV was the most expensive part for me. 😊
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 8:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Hi All,
We are looking for an accessible smart TV.
Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more.
Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs.
I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus.
But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too.
Can anyone make any suggestions?
Thanks.
Glenn
On Sep 16, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
Are you the list moderator?Â----- Original Message -----Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:27 AMSubject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Kindly take this discussion to one of the general tech lists. Just because someone added "OT" to the subject line does not give you or anyone else the right to hijack this list and turn it into a forum about accessible TV's, which has absolutely nothing to do with JAWS. The list description is quite clear that this list is a forum for the discussion of JAWS-related issues, not accessible TV's. Just because the moderator is persona non gratis does not mean that anything goes.
Gerald
On 9/16/2022 11:05 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:Hi Glenn! I have read that Samsung's "Insignia" line of smart TVs are very accessible. Apparently, they recently won awards for that aspect by some European organization. Google them! Bye, Richard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 6:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
On Sep 16, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
Are you the list moderator?Â----- Original Message -----Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:27 AMSubject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Kindly take this discussion to one of the general tech lists. Just because someone added "OT" to the subject line does not give you or anyone else the right to hijack this list and turn it into a forum about accessible TV's, which has absolutely nothing to do with JAWS. The list description is quite clear that this list is a forum for the discussion of JAWS-related issues, not accessible TV's. Just because the moderator is persona non gratis does not mean that anything goes.
Gerald
On 9/16/2022 11:05 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:Hi Glenn! I have read that Samsung's "Insignia" line of smart TVs are very accessible. Apparently, they recently won awards for that aspect by some European organization. Google them! Bye, Richard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 6:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
Kindly take this discussion to one of the general tech lists. Just because someone added "OT" to the subject line does not give you or anyone else the right to hijack this list and turn it into a forum about accessible TV's, which has absolutely nothing to do with JAWS. The list description is quite clear that this list is a forum for the discussion of JAWS-related issues, not accessible TV's. Just because the moderator is persona non gratis does not mean that anything goes.
Gerald
Hi Glenn! I have read that Samsung's "Insignia" line of smart TVs are very accessible. Apparently, they recently won awards for that aspect by some European organization. Google them! Bye, Richard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 6:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
Kindly take this discussion to one of the general tech lists. Just because someone added "OT" to the subject line does not give you or anyone else the right to hijack this list and turn it into a forum about accessible TV's, which has absolutely nothing to do with JAWS. The list description is quite clear that this list is a forum for the discussion of JAWS-related issues, not accessible TV's. Just because the moderator is persona non gratis does not mean that anything goes.
Gerald
On 9/16/2022 11:05 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:Hi Glenn!
I have read that Samsung's "Insignia" line of smart TVs are very accessible.
Apparently, they recently won awards for that aspect by some European
organization. Google them!
Bye,
Richard
-----Original Message-----
From:main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 6:08 PM
To:main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Hi All,
We are looking for an accessible smart TV.
Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more.
Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs.
I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is
similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to
deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus.
But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like
scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too.
Can anyone make any suggestions?
Thanks.
Glenn
From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Vizeo? quite accessible!
Curtis Delzer
H.S.
K6VFO
Rialto, CA
curtis@...
On 9/15/2022 6:07 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi All,
We are looking for an accessible smart TV.
Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more.
Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs.
I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is
similar to
the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with
that deplorable voice in the TV menus.
But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options,
like
scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too.
Can anyone make any suggestions?
Thanks.
Glenn
Sony UBP-X700 4K Ultra HD Home Theater Streaming Blu-Ray Player link
It isn't 100% as I discovered when trying to configure WiFI and the firmware update wizard. But the rest of the features (non 3rd party apps) do speak using something that sounds much like Flite (open source small TTS). If someone knows of something even better, then I would love to hear from you.
The TV itself is
Amazon Fire TV 43" 4-Series 4K UHD smart TV link
I didn't care about picture quality and wanted something low cost and I have lots of echo devices and thus it meshes into my existing ecosystem.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Hi all!
Dan, I too would like to know more about this accessible blue ray player you have.
I would also like any recommendations anyone can offer for an accessible TV that I plan to use as a streaming player. I am going to cut the cord on cable later this year and currently don't have a TV or a streaming player. I tried a Roku stream bar and Roku's choice for a TTS is, in a word, criminal. It's basically like listening to someone with a mouth full of marbles.
Gene...
On 9/16/2022 11:01 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:
Hi Dan!
I noticed from your below that you have an " accessible Blu-ray player." May I ask what make and model it is?
Thanks,
Richard
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 8:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
I personally got a 43 inch FireTV by Amazon. The actual picture is not the best but useable I am led to believe. But For accessibility, it has been quite good in the Amazon supported apps and the major streaming apps. It gets trickier with the free and less known apps. I have connected an antenna for air-the-over channels and that works fairly well too. The switching to other inputs is accessible and depending on hardware the auto detect features work. I have an Apple TV 4k gen 1, accessible Blu-ray player and eARC soundbar. With all that, I can use the Fire TV remote for much of the operation of the components (Apple and Blu-ray included).
This has been my most accessible set up to date. The Apple TV was the
most expensive part for me. 😊
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 8:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Hi All,
We are looking for an accessible smart TV.
Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more.
Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs.
I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus.
But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too.
Can anyone make any suggestions?
Thanks.
Glenn
Kindly take this discussion to one of the general tech lists. Just because someone added "OT" to the subject line does not give you or anyone else the right to hijack this list and turn it into a forum about accessible TV's, which has absolutely nothing to do with JAWS. The list description is quite clear that this list is a forum for the discussion of JAWS-related issues, not accessible TV's. Just because the moderator is persona non gratis does not mean that anything goes.
Gerald
Hi Glenn! I have read that Samsung's "Insignia" line of smart TVs are very accessible. Apparently, they recently won awards for that aspect by some European organization. Google them! Bye, Richard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 6:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
have alexa built in and have voice view as a screen reader built in as well
I had the same issue of accessibility as you as I am also blind and found
that amazon does a good job as far as accessibility. You can find the
insignia line at best buy. And other fire tv edition smart tvs on amazon.com
hope this helps if you have any questions you can reach me at 985 662-0536
or pf112781@....
Paul faucheux in Hammond louisiana
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 8:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations
Hi All,
We are looking for an accessible smart TV.
Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more.
Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs.
I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is
similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to
deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus.
But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like
scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too.
Can anyone make any suggestions?
Thanks.
Glenn