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Ashleigh Piccinino #100805 I am not sure, but you could probably look it up online. If you want me to, I can look it up for you. Get Outlook for iOS From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2022 12:50:28 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Curtis, or anyone else, How do you bring up the voice on a Vizio? Thanks toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:17 AM Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Vizeo? quite accessible! Curtis Delzer H.S. K6VFO Rialto, CA curtis@... On 9/15/2022 6:07 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: > Hi All, > We are looking for an accessible smart TV. > Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. > Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. > I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is > similar to > the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with > that deplorable voice in the TV menus. > But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, > like > scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. > Can anyone make any suggestions? > > Thanks. > > Glenn > > > > >
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K0LNY #100753 Curtis, or anyone else, How do you bring up the voice on a Vizio? Thanks toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:17 AM Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Vizeo? quite accessible! Curtis Delzer H.S. K6VFO Rialto, CA curtis@... On 9/15/2022 6:07 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
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Gene Warner #100576 I have been considering purchasing an XBox. I have heard that besides games, that they also can be used as a streaming player. Does anyone know anything about that? Gene... alsknow anything about toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 9/16/2022 9:32 PM, Nermin via groups.io wrote: Hi, you can also get Android TV's, or Google TV, as the newer models are called. Models running Android include TCL, Samsui, Philips, Sony, and I think some later Hisense offerings. The way to enable accessibility on most models is by either pressing and holding down the mute button on the remote, or sometimes the back and menu buttons together, or by pressing and holding the volume up and down buttons simultaneously for a few seconds. Some TCL devices run a proprietary operating system, and they have an accessibility option on US-Based systems. I don't know anything about other languages. I think their system on some TV's is called VIDAA. Sony are quite expensive, but they have good speakers included in their TV sets. What makes most TV's expensive is their screen technology and size. So if you only want accessibility and are not going to have a lot of sighted visitors who will benefit from a larger screen size and hence a better viewing experience, just look for smaller TV's. Also, depending on the screen technology in use, you have to consider the size of the room the TV will be set up in. This is owing to the fact that the viewing angle may or may not play a part. Due to the way flatscreens are built, smaller TV's will often have thin and slightly tinny sound, so be prepared to either hook up a stereo or bluetooth speaker for a better sound experience, or better yet for a sound bar that will act as a modern external speaker. Panasonic also have accessibility built into their TV's, but they ron a proprietary system. Some people say that third-party apps are not that accessible on their devices. However, if you do not care for that and only want to watch TV using an antenna, cable or DVBT signal, then that may be your choice. Just throwing this out there for completeness sake and for people to be able to look for alternatives. Most models will have built-in connectors for satellite dishes, cable, and DVBT. Samsung also have accessibility in their TV's, and if you're looking for apps, they are also a good choice. LG is also known for a lot of apps on their TV's, and they also have accessibility on board. Finally, you can find a lot of samples of different voices on Youtube. Just use accessibility TV plus the brand you're interested in. Samsung call their accessibility option "Voice Guide", Amazon TV has "Voice View". Not sure what the others call it on their systems. Try voice guide or guidance or similar. There will be a lot of results on how to turn the feture off. Hope that was helpful. Happy watching, Nermin
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Claudia #100575 I'm interested to know why you'd need the Apple TV if the Fire TV sounds pretty accessible? Thanks. Claudia toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 10:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations I personally got a 43 inch FireTV by Amazon. The actual picture is not the best but useable I am led to believe. But For accessibility, it has been quite good in the Amazon supported apps and the major streaming apps. It gets trickier with the free and less known apps. I have connected an antenna for air-the-over channels and that works fairly well too. The switching to other inputs is accessible and depending on hardware the auto detect features work. I have an Apple TV 4k gen 1, accessible Blu-ray player and eARC soundbar. With all that, I can use the Fire TV remote for much of the operation of the components (Apple and Blu-ray included). This has been my most accessible set up to date. The Apple TV was the most expensive part for me. 😊 Dan -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 8:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
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Nermin #100574 Hi, you can also get Android TV's, or Google TV, as the newer models are called. Models running Android include TCL, Samsui, Philips, Sony, and I think some later Hisense offerings. The way to enable accessibility on most models is by either pressing and holding down the mute button on the remote, or sometimes the back and menu buttons together, or by pressing and holding the volume up and down buttons simultaneously for a few seconds. Some TCL devices run a proprietary operating system, and they have an accessibility option on US-Based systems. I don't know anything about other languages. I think their system on some TV's is called VIDAA. Sony are quite expensive, but they have good speakers included in their TV sets. What makes most TV's expensive is their screen technology and size. So if you only want accessibility and are not going to have a lot of sighted visitors who will benefit from a larger screen size and hence a better viewing experience, just look for smaller TV's. Also, depending on the screen technology in use, you have to consider the size of the room the TV will be set up in. This is owing to the fact that the viewing angle may or may not play a part. Due to the way flatscreens are built, smaller TV's will often have thin and slightly tinny sound, so be prepared to either hook up a stereo or bluetooth speaker for a better sound experience, or better yet for a sound bar that will act as a modern external speaker. Panasonic also have accessibility built into their TV's, but they ron a proprietary system. Some people say that third-party apps are not that accessible on their devices. However, if you do not care for that and only want to watch TV using an antenna, cable or DVBT signal, then that may be your choice. Just throwing this out there for completeness sake and for people to be able to look for alternatives. Most models will have built-in connectors for satellite dishes, cable, and DVBT. Samsung also have accessibility in their TV's, and if you're looking for apps, they are also a good choice. LG is also known for a lot of apps on their TV's, and they also have accessibility on board. Finally, you can find a lot of samples of different voices on Youtube. Just use accessibility TV plus the brand you're interested in. Samsung call their accessibility option "Voice Guide", Amazon TV has "Voice View". Not sure what the others call it on their systems. Try voice guide or guidance or similar. There will be a lot of results on how to turn the feture off. Hope that was helpful. Happy watching, Nermin
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K0LNY #100573 Also, there is Blind-T: This list is called Blind-T in the spirit of the lists Blind-X and Blind-L. The T in Blind-T is for Technology, which means screenreaders and anything else technology related is the goal for our discussions. The T, in the name can also be thought of as toleration. So if topics go astray, that is okay, we can tolerate that. But what this list won't tolerate is flaming, we all have enough to deal with in our day to day lives, so just treat each other with tolerance and respect please. Also, let's not have any political or religious discussions here, as everyone is entitled to his or her own beliefs, and such discussions on a list will soon turn into flaming. Unfortunately, this list also won't be able to tolerate audio/video or software sharing, unless it's open source software, sharing of other than open source software must be shared off-list. To subscribe, for your friends who may not have yet joined, they can send a message to: blind-t+subscribe@groups.io So let's all help this list to grow and be a great resource to all! toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 4:32 PM Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations I am not telling anybody what they should or should not do, but if you want to keep the moderator wannabees from getting their panties in a bunch, there is a Tech Talk list that would be a good place for this topic. Tech Talk main@TechTalk.groups.io Welcome to Tech Talk, This is a group for discussing accessible technology and technology in general. https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main Group Email Addresses Post: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subscribe: main+subscribe@TechTalk.groups.io Unsubscribe: main+unsubscribe@TechTalk.groups.io Group Owner: main+owner@TechTalk.groups.io Help: main+help@TechTalk.groups.io Gene... On 9/16/2022 5:19 PM, Feliciano G wrote: Hi, From my experience, the insignia TVs that have fire TV included are not worth the money. They seem to have slow processors and fire TV is slow and unreliable. You are better off getting a fire cube or fire TV stick and connect it to a TV. Feliciano For tech tips and updates: LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs On Sep 16, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote: I wonder if folks can post the steps for invoking accessibility on their TVs. I want to be prepared to try that at the store if we don't get a fire TV. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:17 AM Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Vizeo? quite accessible! Curtis Delzer H.S. K6VFO Rialto, CA curtis@... On 9/15/2022 6:07 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
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Gene Warner #100572 I am not telling anybody what they should or should not do, but if you want to keep the moderator wannabees from getting their panties in a bunch, there is a Tech Talk list that would be a good place for this topic. Tech Talk main@TechTalk.groups.io Welcome to Tech Talk, This is a group for discussing accessible technology and technology in general. https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main Group Email Addresses Post: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subscribe: main+subscribe@TechTalk.groups.io Unsubscribe: main+unsubscribe@TechTalk.groups.io Group Owner: main+owner@TechTalk.groups.io Help: main+help@TechTalk.groups.io Gene... toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 9/16/2022 5:19 PM, Feliciano G wrote: Hi, From my experience, the insignia TVs that have fire TV included are not worth the money. They seem to have slow processors and fire TV is slow and unreliable. You are better off getting a fire cube or fire TV stick and connect it to a TV. Feliciano For tech tips and updates: LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs On Sep 16, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote: I wonder if folks can post the steps for invoking accessibility on their TVs. I want to be prepared to try that at the store if we don't get a fire TV. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:17 AM Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Vizeo? quite accessible! Curtis Delzer H.S. K6VFO Rialto, CA curtis@... On 9/15/2022 6:07 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
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K0LNY #100571 If I could find the right adapter, I would do to a firestick what I did with my Roku stick. I have a HDMI to VGA adapter, it's about the same size as the Roku stick, and I can plug in a little speaker and have a TV in my pocket. The Firesticks have a male HDMI port, so I need an adapter with a female end, or an gender bender for the HDMI to VGA adapter I already have. Glenn toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Feliciano G" <theblindman12v@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 4:19 PM Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Hi, From my experience, the insignia TVs that have fire TV included are not worth the money. They seem to have slow processors and fire TV is slow and unreliable. You are better off getting a fire cube or fire TV stick and connect it to a TV. Feliciano For tech tips and updates: LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs On Sep 16, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote: I wonder if folks can post the steps for invoking accessibility on their TVs. I want to be prepared to try that at the store if we don't get a fire TV. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:17 AM Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Vizeo? quite accessible! Curtis Delzer H.S. K6VFO Rialto, CA curtis@... On 9/15/2022 6:07 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
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Feliciano G #100570 Hi, From my experience, the insignia TVs that have fire TV included are not worth the money. They seem to have slow processors and fire TV is slow and unreliable. You are better off getting a fire cube or fire TV stick and connect it to a TV. Feliciano For tech tips and updates: LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Sep 16, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote: I wonder if folks can post the steps for invoking accessibility on their TVs. I want to be prepared to try that at the store if we don't get a fire TV. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:17 AM Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Vizeo? quite accessible! Curtis Delzer H.S. K6VFO Rialto, CA curtis@... On 9/15/2022 6:07 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
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K0LNY #100569 I wonder if folks can post the steps for invoking accessibility on their TVs. I want to be prepared to try that at the store if we don't get a fire TV. Thanks. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:17 AM Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Vizeo? quite accessible! Curtis Delzer H.S. K6VFO Rialto, CA curtis@... On 9/15/2022 6:07 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
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Mich Verrier #100564 Hi Dan. Thanks for this info. I will look up this player. My question is when setting it up does it walk you through setting up with tts? Or do you need sighted help? Many thanks. From Mich. toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner Sent: September 16, 2022 11:44 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations The Blu-ray player I got is Sony UBP-X700 4K Ultra HD Home Theater Streaming Blu-Ray Player link It isn't 100% as I discovered when trying to configure WiFI and the firmware update wizard. But the rest of the features (non 3rd party apps) do speak using something that sounds much like Flite (open source small TTS). If someone knows of something even better, then I would love to hear from you. The TV itself is Amazon Fire TV 43" 4-Series 4K UHD smart TV link I didn't care about picture quality and wanted something low cost and I have lots of echo devices and thus it meshes into my existing ecosystem. Dan -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:10 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Hi all! Dan, I too would like to know more about this accessible blue ray player you have. I would also like any recommendations anyone can offer for an accessible TV that I plan to use as a streaming player. I am going to cut the cord on cable later this year and currently don't have a TV or a streaming player. I tried a Roku stream bar and Roku's choice for a TTS is, in a word, criminal. It's basically like listening to someone with a mouth full of marbles. Gene... On 9/16/2022 11:01 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote: Hi Dan! I noticed from your below that you have an " accessible Blu-ray player." May I ask what make and model it is? Thanks, Richard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 8:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations I personally got a 43 inch FireTV by Amazon. The actual picture is not the best but useable I am led to believe. But For accessibility, it has been quite good in the Amazon supported apps and the major streaming apps. It gets trickier with the free and less known apps. I have connected an antenna for air-the-over channels and that works fairly well too. The switching to other inputs is accessible and depending on hardware the auto detect features work. I have an Apple TV 4k gen 1, accessible Blu-ray player and eARC soundbar. With all that, I can use the Fire TV remote for much of the operation of the components (Apple and Blu-ray included). This has been my most accessible set up to date. The Apple TV was the most expensive part for me. 😊 Dan -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 8:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
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Mich Verrier #100563 Hi I to would like to know about your blue ray player the moddle number ane stuff since I have been looking for one for a while. From Mich. toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald Sent: September 16, 2022 11:02 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Hi Dan! I noticed from your below that you have an " accessible Blu-ray player." May I ask what make and model it is? Thanks, Richard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 8:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations I personally got a 43 inch FireTV by Amazon. The actual picture is not the best but useable I am led to believe. But For accessibility, it has been quite good in the Amazon supported apps and the major streaming apps. It gets trickier with the free and less known apps. I have connected an antenna for air-the-over channels and that works fairly well too. The switching to other inputs is accessible and depending on hardware the auto detect features work. I have an Apple TV 4k gen 1, accessible Blu-ray player and eARC soundbar. With all that, I can use the Fire TV remote for much of the operation of the components (Apple and Blu-ray included). This has been my most accessible set up to date. The Apple TV was the most expensive part for me. 😊 Dan -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 8:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
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Joseph Machise #100561 hi can you give us on the list the model and make. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: guy schlosser To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:31 PM Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations I have an lg TV, and it is very accessible. If you would like more detail, feel free to email me off list. JAWS Certified, 2021, https://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Certification On Sep 16, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote: Are you the list moderator? ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerald Levy via groups.io To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:27 AM Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Kindly take this discussion to one of the general tech lists. Just because someone added "OT" to the subject line does not give you or anyone else the right to hijack this list and turn it into a forum about accessible TV's, which has absolutely nothing to do with JAWS. The list description is quite clear that this list is a forum for the discussion of JAWS-related issues, not accessible TV's. Just because the moderator is persona non gratis does not mean that anything goes. Gerald On 9/16/2022 11:05 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote: Hi Glenn! I have read that Samsung's "Insignia" line of smart TVs are very accessible. Apparently, they recently won awards for that aspect by some European organization. Google them! Bye, Richard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 6:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
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guy schlosser #100560 I have an lg TV, and it is very accessible. If you would like more detail, feel free to email me off list. JAWS Certified, 2021, https://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Certification toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Sep 16, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote: Are you the list moderator? ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerald Levy via groups.io To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:27 AM Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Kindly take this discussion to one of the general tech lists. Just because someone added "OT" to the subject line does not give you or anyone else the right to hijack this list and turn it into a forum about accessible TV's, which has absolutely nothing to do with JAWS. The list description is quite clear that this list is a forum for the discussion of JAWS-related issues, not accessible TV's. Just because the moderator is persona non gratis does not mean that anything goes. Gerald On 9/16/2022 11:05 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote: Hi Glenn! I have read that Samsung's "Insignia" line of smart TVs are very accessible. Apparently, they recently won awards for that aspect by some European organization. Google them! Bye, Richard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 6:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
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K0LNY #100559 Are you the list moderator? toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerald Levy via groups.io To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:27 AM Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Kindly take this discussion to one of the general tech lists. Just because someone added "OT" to the subject line does not give you or anyone else the right to hijack this list and turn it into a forum about accessible TV's, which has absolutely nothing to do with JAWS. The list description is quite clear that this list is a forum for the discussion of JAWS-related issues, not accessible TV's. Just because the moderator is persona non gratis does not mean that anything goes. Gerald On 9/16/2022 11:05 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote: Hi Glenn! I have read that Samsung's "Insignia" line of smart TVs are very accessible. Apparently, they recently won awards for that aspect by some European organization. Google them! Bye, Richard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 6:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
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Gene Warner #100558 Sounds like somebody who likes to think that he is important when he's just another sound bite in the general noise. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 9/16/2022 11:27 AM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote: Kindly take this discussion to one of the general tech lists. Just because someone added "OT" to the subject line does not give you or anyone else the right to hijack this list and turn it into a forum about accessible TV's, which has absolutely nothing to do with JAWS. The list description is quite clear that this list is a forum for the discussion of JAWS-related issues, not accessible TV's. Just because the moderator is persona non gratis does not mean that anything goes. Gerald On 9/16/2022 11:05 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote: Hi Glenn! I have read that Samsung's "Insignia" line of smart TVs are very accessible. Apparently, they recently won awards for that aspect by some European organization. Google them! Bye, Richard -----Original Message----- From:main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 6:08 PM To:main@jfw.groups.io Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
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K0LNY #100557 My wife was looking at Visio, but I wonder if they are all accessible? toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:17 AM Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Vizeo? quite accessible! Curtis Delzer H.S. K6VFO Rialto, CA curtis@... On 9/15/2022 6:07 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
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Dan Miner #100556 The Blu-ray player I got is Sony UBP-X700 4K Ultra HD Home Theater Streaming Blu-Ray Player link It isn't 100% as I discovered when trying to configure WiFI and the firmware update wizard. But the rest of the features (non 3rd party apps) do speak using something that sounds much like Flite (open source small TTS). If someone knows of something even better, then I would love to hear from you. The TV itself is Amazon Fire TV 43" 4-Series 4K UHD smart TV link I didn't care about picture quality and wanted something low cost and I have lots of echo devices and thus it meshes into my existing ecosystem. Dan toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:10 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Hi all! Dan, I too would like to know more about this accessible blue ray player you have. I would also like any recommendations anyone can offer for an accessible TV that I plan to use as a streaming player. I am going to cut the cord on cable later this year and currently don't have a TV or a streaming player. I tried a Roku stream bar and Roku's choice for a TTS is, in a word, criminal. It's basically like listening to someone with a mouth full of marbles. Gene... On 9/16/2022 11:01 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote: Hi Dan! I noticed from your below that you have an " accessible Blu-ray player." May I ask what make and model it is? Thanks, Richard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 8:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations I personally got a 43 inch FireTV by Amazon. The actual picture is not the best but useable I am led to believe. But For accessibility, it has been quite good in the Amazon supported apps and the major streaming apps. It gets trickier with the free and less known apps. I have connected an antenna for air-the-over channels and that works fairly well too. The switching to other inputs is accessible and depending on hardware the auto detect features work. I have an Apple TV 4k gen 1, accessible Blu-ray player and eARC soundbar. With all that, I can use the Fire TV remote for much of the operation of the components (Apple and Blu-ray included). This has been my most accessible set up to date. The Apple TV was the most expensive part for me. 😊 Dan -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 8:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
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Gerald Levy #100555 Kindly take this discussion to one of the general tech lists. Just because someone added "OT" to the subject line does not give you or anyone else the right to hijack this list and turn it into a forum about accessible TV's, which has absolutely nothing to do with JAWS. The list description is quite clear that this list is a forum for the discussion of JAWS-related issues, not accessible TV's. Just because the moderator is persona non gratis does not mean that anything goes. Gerald On 9/16/2022 11:05 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text Hi Glenn! I have read that Samsung's "Insignia" line of smart TVs are very accessible. Apparently, they recently won awards for that aspect by some European organization. Google them! Bye, Richard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 6:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
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Paul Faucheux #100554 Hi glenn try the insignia line of fire tv edition smart tvs. They have alexa built in and have voice view as a screen reader built in as well I had the same issue of accessibility as you as I am also blind and found that amazon does a good job as far as accessibility. You can find the insignia line at best buy. And other fire tv edition smart tvs on amazon.com hope this helps if you have any questions you can reach me at 985 662-0536 or pf112781@.... Paul faucheux in Hammond louisiana toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 8:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations Hi All, We are looking for an accessible smart TV. Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more. Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs. I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is similar to the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with that deplorable voice in the TV menus. But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options, like scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. Glenn
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