Moderated num pad
Judy
Hi, when the num pad is locked on I have the numbers and all, but when I turn if off, the keys do nothing. No enter key, no left right mouse keys, it says and does nothing. What’s wrong. Thanks. Judy & Libby |
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JM Casey
Hello. We might need more information. What kind of keyboard is this? Is this a laptop? Is there something else that might be running that uses the num pad if num lock is off? When did this start happening and can you think of anything that might have changed to cause a new behaviour? Have you tried restarting? Does for iexample NVDA also not respond to numpad keys? If you are using a laptop, maybe there is something specific about the make and modela nd its keyboard number pad. It seems that many laptops have weird keyboard settings that can be adjusted in bios that are independent of the operating system.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: August 22, 2022 01:16 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: num pad
Hi, when the num pad is locked on I have the numbers and all, but when I turn if off, the keys do nothing. No enter key, no left right mouse keys, it says and does nothing. What’s wrong. Thanks. Judy & Libby |
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Judy
So sorry, I’m on a desktop computer. Using Win 10, and Jaws 2019. I can’t think of a thing I did different at all to cause this to happen. It doesn’t matter about the browser or search engine, it just doesn’t work. Judy & Libby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 1:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: num pad
Hello. We might need more information. What kind of keyboard is this? Is this a laptop? Is there something else that might be running that uses the num pad if num lock is off? When did this start happening and can you think of anything that might have changed to cause a new behaviour? Have you tried restarting? Does for iexample NVDA also not respond to numpad keys? If you are using a laptop, maybe there is something specific about the make and modela nd its keyboard number pad It seems that many laptops have weird keyboard settings that can be adjusted in bios that are independent of the operating system.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Hi, when the num pad is locked on I have the numbers and all, but when I turn if off, the keys do nothing. No enter key, no left right mouse keys, it says and does nothing. What’s wrong. Thanks. Judy & Libby |
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Curtis Chong
Judy
Has this always been a problem or did this start happening recently. If the latter, how long ago?
Best wishes,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 11:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: num pad
So sorry, I’m on a desktop computer. Using Win 10, and Jaws 2019. I can’t think of a thing I did different at all to cause this to happen. It doesn’t matter about the browser or search engine, it just doesn’t work. Judy & Libby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hello. We might need more information. What kind of keyboard is this? Is this a laptop? Is there something else that might be running that uses the num pad if num lock is off? When did this start happening and can you think of anything that might have changed to cause a new behaviour? Have you tried restarting? Does for iexample NVDA also not respond to numpad keys? If you are using a laptop, maybe there is something specific about the make and modela nd its keyboard number pad It seems that many laptops have weird keyboard settings that can be adjusted in bios that are independent of the operating system.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Hi, when the num pad is locked on I have the numbers and all, but when I turn if off, the keys do nothing. No enter key, no left right mouse keys, it says and does nothing. What’s wrong. Thanks. Judy & Libby |
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JM Casey
Hey.
I was asking about nVDA because it’s another programme that uses the number pad for a different purpose that’s not, well, numbers. If that works, you know it’s a JAWS-related issue. I can’t really think of other programmest aht make use of the number pad in this way but, there must be some. Not browsers or search engines though, certainly. If you put the keyboard learn function on with insert + nubmer row 1, what happens when you tryt he number pad with num lock off? You should hear the appropraite screen-reader function described to you when you do this. Although I’m guessing this won’t work either.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: August 22, 2022 01:39 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: num pad
So sorry, I’m on a desktop computer. Using Win 10, and Jaws 2019. I can’t think of a thing I did different at all to cause this to happen. It doesn’t matter about the browser or search engine, it just doesn’t work. Judy & Libby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hello. We might need more information. What kind of keyboard is this? Is this a laptop? Is there something else that might be running that uses the num pad if num lock is off? When did this start happening and can you think of anything that might have changed to cause a new behaviour? Have you tried restarting? Does for iexample NVDA also not respond to numpad keys? If you are using a laptop, maybe there is something specific about the make and modela nd its keyboard number pad It seems that many laptops have weird keyboard settings that can be adjusted in bios that are independent of the operating system.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Hi, when the num pad is locked on I have the numbers and all, but when I turn if off, the keys do nothing. No enter key, no left right mouse keys, it says and does nothing. What’s wrong. Thanks. Judy & Libby |
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Curtis Chong
Hello Judy:
In JAWS, there is a setting, “Differentiate Between Numpad Keys and Extended Keys”. By default, this is supposed to be unchecked. Press INSERT+6 to get into the JAWS Settings Center, then press CTRL+SHIFT+D to get into the default settings. Now, search for “differentiate” without the quotes. What do you see when you start arrowing down?
Best wishes,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 11:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: num pad
So sorry, I’m on a desktop computer. Using Win 10, and Jaws 2019. I can’t think of a thing I did different at all to cause this to happen. It doesn’t matter about the browser or search engine, it just doesn’t work. Judy & Libby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hello. We might need more information. What kind of keyboard is this? Is this a laptop? Is there something else that might be running that uses the num pad if num lock is off? When did this start happening and can you think of anything that might have changed to cause a new behaviour? Have you tried restarting? Does for iexample NVDA also not respond to numpad keys? If you are using a laptop, maybe there is something specific about the make and modela nd its keyboard number pad It seems that many laptops have weird keyboard settings that can be adjusted in bios that are independent of the operating system.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Hi, when the num pad is locked on I have the numbers and all, but when I turn if off, the keys do nothing. No enter key, no left right mouse keys, it says and does nothing. What’s wrong. Thanks. Judy & Libby |
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Soronel Haetir
Are you sure the ctrl or alt key isn't locked for some reason? (Try
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tapping all four of these keys - that is both the left and right ctrl and alt keys - a few times and see if the numpad starts working). On 8/22/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
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Mike B.
Have you tried rebooting the computer?
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Hi, when the num pad is locked on I have the numbers and all, but when I turn if off, the keys do nothing. No enter key, no left right mouse keys, it says and does nothing. What’s wrong. Thanks. Judy & Libby |
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Judy
Yes, it made no difference. J
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 2:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: num pad
Have you tried rebooting the computer?
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
Hi, when the num pad is locked on I have the numbers and all, but when I turn if off, the keys do nothing. No enter key, no left right mouse keys, it says and does nothing. What’s wrong. Thanks. Judy & Libby |
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Judy
It started maybe a couple weeks ago. J
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 1:40 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: num pad
Judy
Has this always been a problem or did this start happening recently. If the latter, how long ago?
Best wishes,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
So sorry, I’m on a desktop computer. Using Win 10, and Jaws 2019. I can’t think of a thing I did different at all to cause this to happen. It doesn’t matter about the browser or search engine, it just doesn’t work. Judy & Libby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hello. We might need more information. What kind of keyboard is this? Is this a laptop? Is there something else that might be running that uses the num pad if num lock is off? When did this start happening and can you think of anything that might have changed to cause a new behaviour? Have you tried restarting? Does for iexample NVDA also not respond to numpad keys? If you are using a laptop, maybe there is something specific about the make and modela nd its keyboard number pad It seems that many laptops have weird keyboard settings that can be adjusted in bios that are independent of the operating system.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Hi, when the num pad is locked on I have the numbers and all, but when I turn if off, the keys do nothing. No enter key, no left right mouse keys, it says and does nothing. What’s wrong. Thanks. Judy & Libby |
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Judy
Curtis, I went to it and it is not checked, so that’s not it. Thanks. J
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 1:46 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: num pad
Hello Judy:
In JAWS, there is a setting, “Differentiate Between Numpad Keys and Extended Keys”. By default, this is supposed to be unchecked. Press INSERT+6 to get into the JAWS Settings Center, then press CTRL+SHIFT+D to get into the default settings. Now, search for “differentiate” without the quotes. What do you see when you start arrowing down?
Best wishes,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
So sorry, I’m on a desktop computer. Using Win 10, and Jaws 2019. I can’t think of a thing I did different at all to cause this to happen. It doesn’t matter about the browser or search engine, it just doesn’t work. Judy & Libby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hello. We might need more information. What kind of keyboard is this? Is this a laptop? Is there something else that might be running that uses the num pad if num lock is off? When did this start happening and can you think of anything that might have changed to cause a new behaviour? Have you tried restarting? Does for iexample NVDA also not respond to numpad keys? If you are using a laptop, maybe there is something specific about the make and modela nd its keyboard number pad It seems that many laptops have weird keyboard settings that can be adjusted in bios that are independent of the operating system.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Hi, when the num pad is locked on I have the numbers and all, but when I turn if off, the keys do nothing. No enter key, no left right mouse keys, it says and does nothing. What’s wrong. Thanks. Judy & Libby |
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Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent from Ashleigh's Fire Judy, New line if you are able to, can you update your jaws to 2022? This is the latest version, in it might work better... Otherwise, please contact freedom scientific about this.... On August 22, 2022, at 12:57 PM, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@...> wrote: Are you sure the ctrl or alt key isn't locked for some reason? (Try
tapping all four of these keys - that is both the left and right ctrl and alt keys - a few times and see if the numpad starts working). On 8/22/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote: > Hello Judy: > > > > In JAWS, there is a setting, "Differentiate Between Numpad Keys and > Extended > Keys". By default, this is supposed to be unchecked. Press INSERT+6 to get > into the JAWS Settings Center, then press CTRL+SHIFT+D to get into the > default settings. Now, search for "differentiate" without the quotes. What > do you see when you start arrowing down? > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Curtis Chong > > > > > > > > From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 11:39 AM > To: main@jfw.groups.io > Subject: Re: num pad > > > > So sorry, I'm on a desktop computer. Using Win 10, and Jaws 2019. I can't > think of a thing I did different at all to cause this to happen. It > doesn't > matter about the browser or search engine, it just doesn't work. Judy & > Libby > > > > From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 1:31 PM > To: main@jfw.groups.io > Subject: Re: num pad > > > > Hello. > > We might need more information. What kind of keyboard is this? Is this a > laptop? Is there something else that might be running that uses the num pad > if num lock is off? When did this start happening and can you think of > anything that might have changed to cause a new behaviour? Have you tried > restarting? Does for iexample NVDA also not respond to numpad keys? > > If you are using a laptop, maybe there is something specific about the make > and modela nd its keyboard number pad It seems that many laptops have weird > keyboard settings that can be adjusted in bios that are independent of the > operating system. > > > > > > From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy > Sent: August 22, 2022 01:16 PM > To: main@jfw.groups.io > Subject: num pad > > > > Hi, when the num pad is locked on I have the numbers and all, but when I > turn if off, the keys do nothing. No enter key, no left right mouse keys, > it > says and does nothing. What's wrong. Thanks. Judy & Libby > > > > > > > > > -- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@... |
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Bill White
Hi, Judy. Have you tried doing a repair of JAWS, by using the JAWS installer, current for the update of JAWS which you have installed on your computer?
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 12:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: num pad
It started maybe a couple weeks ago. J
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Judy
Has this always been a problem or did this start happening recently. If the latter, how long ago?
Best wishes,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
So sorry, I’m on a desktop computer. Using Win 10, and Jaws 2019. I can’t think of a thing I did different at all to cause this to happen. It doesn’t matter about the browser or search engine, it just doesn’t work. Judy & Libby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hello. We might need more information. What kind of keyboard is this? Is this a laptop? Is there something else that might be running that uses the num pad if num lock is off? When did this start happening and can you think of anything that might have changed to cause a new behaviour? Have you tried restarting? Does for iexample NVDA also not respond to numpad keys? If you are using a laptop, maybe there is something specific about the make and modela nd its keyboard number pad It seems that many laptops have weird keyboard settings that can be adjusted in bios that are independent of the operating system.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Hi, when the num pad is locked on I have the numbers and all, but when I turn if off, the keys do nothing. No enter key, no left right mouse keys, it says and does nothing. What’s wrong. Thanks. Judy & Libby |
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Judy
No, I’ll try it. J
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 3:38 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: num pad
Hi, Judy. Have you tried doing a repair of JAWS, by using the JAWS installer, current for the update of JAWS which you have installed on your computer?
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy
It started maybe a couple weeks ago. J
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Judy
Has this always been a problem or did this start happening recently. If the latter, how long ago?
Best wishes,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
So sorry, I’m on a desktop computer. Using Win 10, and Jaws 2019. I can’t think of a thing I did different at all to cause this to happen. It doesn’t matter about the browser or search engine, it just doesn’t work. Judy & Libby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hello. We might need more information. What kind of keyboard is this? Is this a laptop? Is there something else that might be running that uses the num pad if num lock is off? When did this start happening and can you think of anything that might have changed to cause a new behaviour? Have you tried restarting? Does for iexample NVDA also not respond to numpad keys? If you are using a laptop, maybe there is something specific about the make and modela nd its keyboard number pad It seems that many laptops have weird keyboard settings that can be adjusted in bios that are independent of the operating system.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Hi, when the num pad is locked on I have the numbers and all, but when I turn if off, the keys do nothing. No enter key, no left right mouse keys, it says and does nothing. What’s wrong. Thanks. Judy & Libby |
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Judy
Hi all, thanks for all the suggestions but none worked. I spent almost an hour on the phone with Microsoft disability yesterday, but he couldn’t get it to work either. It is certainly strange that it works when locked, but not when unlocked. I miss the jaws and pc cursors. Any other possible suggestions would be appreciated. Judy & Libby |
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Artur Räpp
Hi,
If you are using the latest JAWS 2022 then you can switch temporarily to the default settings, to find out is this related to JAWS or not. To do that in JAWS 2022 Press JAWS key + space bar. Then z If the problem persist, then it is not from JAWS To restore your settings, press again INS+Space, then z If you do not have the latest JAWS, you can cut all files from your user settings folder to a temporary folder for a second to check is it a setting or a script, what causes that.
Second possible solution. Maybe you have accidentally turned-on mouse keys in settings. To turn mouse keys off (I have here Windows 11. I can not check in Windows 10) Open Windows settings (Win+i) Search for Mouse keys Or move to Accessibility option, open it (enter) Move to Mouse option, open it (Enter) Tab to Mouse keys option. If is turned on, turn it off with space bar
No more ideas unfortunately
Artur From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Judy
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2022 7:47 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: num pad
Hi all, thanks for all the suggestions but none worked. I spent almost an hour on the phone with Microsoft disability yesterday, but he couldn’t get it to work either. It is certainly strange that it works when locked, but not when unlocked. I miss the jaws and pc cursors. Any other possible suggestions would be appreciated. Judy & Libby |
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K0LNY
That works in 2020 as well, the same command
toggles it back.
Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: Artur Räpp
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: num pad Hi,
If you are using the latest JAWS 2022 then you can switch temporarily to the default settings, to find out is this related to JAWS or not. To do that in JAWS 2022 Press JAWS key + space bar. Then z If the problem persist, then it is not from JAWS To restore your settings, press again INS+Space, then z If you do not have the latest JAWS, you can cut all files from your user settings folder to a temporary folder for a second to check is it a setting or a script, what causes that.
Second possible solution. Maybe you have accidentally turned-on mouse keys in settings. To turn mouse keys off (I have here Windows 11. I can not check in Windows 10) Open Windows settings (Win+i) Search for Mouse keys Or move to Accessibility option, open it (enter) Move to Mouse option, open it (Enter) Tab to Mouse keys option. If is turned on, turn it off with space bar
No more ideas unfortunately
Artur From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Judy
Hi all, thanks for all the suggestions but none worked. I spent almost an hour on the phone with Microsoft disability yesterday, but he couldn’t get it to work either. It is certainly strange that it works when locked, but not when unlocked. I miss the jaws and pc cursors. Any other possible suggestions would be appreciated. Judy & Libby |
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