Moderated Blocking mouse buttons:
Angel
I will ask a direct question, then. I have a single computer in my home. Do you have parental controls installed on your computers; for the occasions your grand children visit? If not, how do you prevent them from using your computers to visit unwanted sites? Or from accessing social media sites on your computers. I just thought the easiest way to prevent such unfortunate behaviors from occurring was to be able to prevent the grand children from employing the use of the mouse. While not inconveniencing a keyboard user to terribly much. I don’t want to inconvenience myself to much just to prevent the undesired use of occasional users.
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K0LNY
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Angel,
I would create a user for when they want to use the
computer, you could create one for each one, and don't give it administrator
permissions.
This way you can check on the history of each user
as well.
Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: Angel
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2022 5:12 PM
Subject: Blocking mouse buttons: I will ask a direct question, then. I have a single computer in my home. Do you have parental controls installed on your computers; for the occasions your grand children visit? If not, how do you prevent them from using your computers to visit unwanted sites? Or from accessing social media sites on your computers. I just thought the easiest way to prevent such unfortunate behaviors from occurring was to be able to prevent the grand children from employing the use of the mouse. While not inconveniencing a keyboard user to terribly much. I don’t want to inconvenience myself to much just to prevent the undesired use of occasional users.
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Gene Warner
If I am going to have guests that I don't want using my computer, I put a password on it and keep it locked or turned off unless I am using it. After they leave I remove the password.
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Gene... On 8/7/2022 6:12 PM, Angel wrote:
I will ask a direct question, then. I have a single computer in my home. Do you have parental controls installed on your computers; for the occasions your grand children visit? If not, how do you prevent them from using your computers to visit unwanted sites? Or from accessing social media sites on your computers. I just thought the easiest way to prevent such unfortunate behaviors from occurring was to be able to prevent the grand children from employing the use of the mouse. While not inconveniencing a keyboard user to terribly much. I don’t want to inconvenience myself to much just to prevent the undesired use of occasional users. |
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Truly, the easiest way is to forbid the use of your computer and enforce it.
Kids are both very clever and very determined, not to mention what non-assistive-technology users can screw up on a machine of an AT user are just too many to mention. I have a lot of clients where not only may their kids, grandkids, etc., not use their computers but their respective spouses are forbidden as well. It can, and generally does, save a lot of heartache. If you absolutely can't go that route, then I would create a separate Windows 10 user account, with only standard permissions (not admin), and turn on parental controls for it and make sure that's the account that's logged on prior to the kids sitting down at the machine. But, personally, I believe the "keep yer mitts off" approach is both easier and safer. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. |
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K0LNY
Another trick, is just turn on keyboard help, insert + #1.
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If they aren't a screenreader user, they probably won't figure out how to toggle it off. Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2022 5:19 PM Subject: Re: Blocking mouse buttons: If I am going to have guests that I don't want using my computer, I put a password on it and keep it locked or turned off unless I am using it. After they leave I remove the password. Gene... On 8/7/2022 6:12 PM, Angel wrote: I will ask a direct question, then. I have a single computer in my |
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On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 06:22 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Another trick, is just turn on keyboard help, insert + #1.- That is an insanely clever trick. My hat's off to you! It also has the added advantage that if you forbade the use of your computer, it's instantly obvious if someone's trying to use it. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. |
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Numerous times, before Jaws included the screen
refresh audio feature, I would have to try to get audio back on a client's
computer, because rather than unloading the screenreader, a family member
just muted the sound and didn't turn it on when they were
done.
Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2022 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Blocking mouse buttons: Kids are both very clever and very determined, not to mention what non-assistive-technology users can screw up on a machine of an AT user are just too many to mention. I have a lot of clients where not only may their kids, grandkids, etc., not use their computers but their respective spouses are forbidden as well. It can, and generally does, save a lot of heartache. If you absolutely can't go that route, then I would create a separate Windows 10 user account, with only standard permissions (not admin), and turn on parental controls for it and make sure that's the account that's logged on prior to the kids sitting down at the machine. But, personally, I believe the "keep yer mitts off" approach is both easier and safer. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build
19044 Here
is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re
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David Diamond
"keep yer mitts off" approach is both easier and safer. Perhaps however, when I was growing up and used a magnification device, my family would literally stand about 10 feet behind me and read what I was looking at. Going as far as to make comments. One blind parent, his children would constantly mute the sound because they did not know how to turn jaws off.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: August 7, 2022 3:20 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Blocking mouse buttons:
Truly, the easiest way is to forbid the use of your computer and enforce it. Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. |
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Sharon S
Hi, I had a student in one of my high school classes that use to sit behind me and loudly point out my spelling mistakes to all the class. At the time I didn’t have an option of a screen shade and I was using a magnifier rather then a screen reader. Since I didn’t need to read what I was typing at the time I turned my font into one that displayed only shapes. However, when the teacher next came by they asked me to go back to normal font so they could see what I was doing. The screen was one that you couldn’t read easily from the side but since the student was sitting directly behind me she had no issues seeing the screen. I think in the end I just lowered the screen a bit so it couldn’t be easily seen by the other student. I was taught touch typing at an early age so most of the time I didn’t need to see what I was typing so I didn’t need to see the screen. At least this was until I needed to spell check.
From Shaz. Canberra, Australia.
I don’t suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Monday, 8 August 2022 11:20 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Blocking mouse buttons:
"keep yer mitts off" approach is both easier and safer. Perhaps however, when I was growing up and used a magnification device, my family would literally stand about 10 feet behind me and read what I was looking at. Going as far as to make comments. One blind parent, his children would constantly mute the sound because they did not know how to turn jaws off.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Truly, the easiest way is to forbid the use of your computer and enforce it. Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. |
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The teacher should have reprimanded the other
student.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sharon S
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2022 11:55 PM
Subject: Re: Blocking mouse buttons: Hi, I had a student in one of my high school classes that use to sit behind me and loudly point out my spelling mistakes to all the class. At the time I didn’t have an option of a screen shade and I was using a magnifier rather then a screen reader. Since I didn’t need to read what I was typing at the time I turned my font into one that displayed only shapes. However, when the teacher next came by they asked me to go back to normal font so they could see what I was doing. The screen was one that you couldn’t read easily from the side but since the student was sitting directly behind me she had no issues seeing the screen. I think in the end I just lowered the screen a bit so it couldn’t be easily seen by the other student. I was taught touch typing at an early age so most of the time I didn’t need to see what I was typing so I didn’t need to see the screen. At least this was until I needed to spell check.
From Shaz. Canberra, Australia.
I don’t suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute.
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main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Diamond
"keep yer mitts off" approach is both easier and safer. Perhaps however, when I was growing up and used a magnification device, my family would literally stand about 10 feet behind me and read what I was looking at. Going as far as to make comments. One blind parent, his children would constantly mute the sound because they did not know how to turn jaws off.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Truly, the easiest way is to forbid the use
of your computer and enforce it. Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Here is a test
to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it
isn’t. |
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K0LNY
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Another idea that could have been employed to this
situation, would be to tape just the top edge of a sheet of paper over the
screen, and if the teacher need to check the student's work, the teacher could
easily flip the paper up to look at the screen.
So this could be used if Jaws screen shade is not
available.
Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2022 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: Blocking mouse buttons: The teacher should have reprimanded the other
student.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sharon S
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2022 11:55 PM
Subject: Re: Blocking mouse buttons: Hi, I had a student in one of my high school classes that use to sit behind me and loudly point out my spelling mistakes to all the class. At the time I didn’t have an option of a screen shade and I was using a magnifier rather then a screen reader. Since I didn’t need to read what I was typing at the time I turned my font into one that displayed only shapes. However, when the teacher next came by they asked me to go back to normal font so they could see what I was doing. The screen was one that you couldn’t read easily from the side but since the student was sitting directly behind me she had no issues seeing the screen. I think in the end I just lowered the screen a bit so it couldn’t be easily seen by the other student. I was taught touch typing at an early age so most of the time I didn’t need to see what I was typing so I didn’t need to see the screen. At least this was until I needed to spell check.
From Shaz. Canberra, Australia.
I don’t suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Diamond
"keep yer mitts off" approach is both easier and safer. Perhaps however, when I was growing up and used a magnification device, my family would literally stand about 10 feet behind me and read what I was looking at. Going as far as to make comments. One blind parent, his children would constantly mute the sound because they did not know how to turn jaws off.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Truly, the easiest way is to forbid the use
of your computer and enforce it. Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Here is a test
to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it
isn’t. |
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Even better, rather than just a piece of paper, you
can print a picture of you sticking out your tongue and it would be like a
pre-tech screensaver.
Glenn ----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2022 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: Blocking mouse buttons: Another idea that could have been employed to this
situation, would be to tape just the top edge of a sheet of paper over the
screen, and if the teacher need to check the student's work, the teacher could
easily flip the paper up to look at the screen.
So this could be used if Jaws screen shade is not
available.
Glenn
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From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2022 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: Blocking mouse buttons: The teacher should have reprimanded the other
student.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sharon S
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2022 11:55 PM
Subject: Re: Blocking mouse buttons: Hi, I had a student in one of my high school classes that use to sit behind me and loudly point out my spelling mistakes to all the class. At the time I didn’t have an option of a screen shade and I was using a magnifier rather then a screen reader. Since I didn’t need to read what I was typing at the time I turned my font into one that displayed only shapes. However, when the teacher next came by they asked me to go back to normal font so they could see what I was doing. The screen was one that you couldn’t read easily from the side but since the student was sitting directly behind me she had no issues seeing the screen. I think in the end I just lowered the screen a bit so it couldn’t be easily seen by the other student. I was taught touch typing at an early age so most of the time I didn’t need to see what I was typing so I didn’t need to see the screen. At least this was until I needed to spell check.
From Shaz. Canberra, Australia.
I don’t suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Diamond
"keep yer mitts off" approach is both easier and safer. Perhaps however, when I was growing up and used a magnification device, my family would literally stand about 10 feet behind me and read what I was looking at. Going as far as to make comments. One blind parent, his children would constantly mute the sound because they did not know how to turn jaws off.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Truly, the easiest way is to forbid the use
of your computer and enforce it. Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Here is a test
to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it
isn’t. |
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