Can someone try the following and see if you get the same reaction? - Load the Settings Center and select Punctuation, then Customize Punctuation…
- 2. You’ll be placed in the list of punctuation with the layout of
- Punctuation character, text name of that character, and the punctuation mode for that character
- Arrow down the list until you get to one of the following characters.
- Number, dollar, and, percent, at
- 3. Set the mode for these characters to “none,” then tab to and select Ok.
- Then tab to and select “Apply.”
4. Repeat step#1 and arrow dow the list. Do those characters speak twice So instead of Number, the character itself, Then number, the text name, Then none, the mode, I get the character announced twice, then the text name, then the mode, such as, Number number number none At at at none Dollar dollar dollar none Percent percent percent none And and and none Anyone else get this? Thanks, Dennis T. Brown
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Hi Dennis,
Jaws Quick Settings and Custommize Settings handles
punctuation symbols differently. Below is an explanation.
This is a note on the difference between changing
punctuation settings in Jaws quick settings, Insert + V, & customize
punctuation in the Settings Center default all applications. They
work backwards from one another.
When setting punctuation in Jaws quick settings,
this controls the amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize. The
default setting is most. To hear less punctuation spoken you would
select some or none.
When making changes in the customize punctuation list,
this basically tells Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to
ignore. If you do not want Jaws to speak/recognize a particular
punctuation mark you want to choose the " all " selection. You will
have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down through. They are none, some,
most, & all. In these selections they work backwards than what you
would think. For example; If you choose " none " for the dollar
sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in whatever you are
reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all " radio button,
Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.
Summary: In short the Jaws quick settings tells
Jaws what punctuation to recognize / speak, & in the Settings Center
default all applications / Customize Punctuation settings, tells Jaws what
punctuation to ignore / not speak. Hence, they work backwards from each
other. Hope this helps some of you understand the differences
between the 2 punctuation setting options. Take care. Mike FAILURE
IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software.
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Subject: Possible Punctuation Bug
Can someone try the following and see if you get the same
reaction?
- Load the Settings Center
and select Punctuation, then Customize Punctuation…
- 2. You’ll be placed
in the list of punctuation with the layout of
- Punctuation character, text
name of that character, and the punctuation mode for that character
- Arrow down the list until
you get to one of the following characters.
- Number, dollar, and,
percent, at
- 3. Set the mode for these
characters to “none,” then tab to and select Ok.
- Then tab to and select
“Apply.”
4. Repeat step#1 and arrow dow the list. Do those
characters speak twice
So instead of
Number, the character itself,
Then number, the text name,
Then none, the mode,
I get the character announced twice, then the text name, then
the mode, such as,
Number number number none
At at at none
Dollar dollar dollar none
Percent percent percent none
And and and none
Anyone else get this?
Thanks,
Dennis T. Brown
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Hi, Mike. Dennis isn't drawing attention to the fact that the punctuation is spoken. The bug he is reporting is that the punctuation symbols are being spoken multiple times.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2022 2:23 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Possible Punctuation Bug Jaws Quick Settings and Custommize Settings handles punctuation symbols differently. Below is an explanation. This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in Jaws quick settings, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the Settings Center default all applications. They work backwards from one another. When setting punctuation in Jaws quick settings, this controls the amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize. The default setting is most. To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none. When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore. If you do not want Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the " all " selection. You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down through. They are none, some, most, & all. In these selections they work backwards than what you would think. For example; If you choose " none " for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all " radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs. Summary: In short the Jaws quick settings tells Jaws what punctuation to recognize / speak, & in the Settings Center default all applications / Customize Punctuation settings, tells Jaws what punctuation to ignore / not speak. Hence, they work backwards from each other. Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2 punctuation setting options. Take care. Mike FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software. ----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2022 9:48 AM Subject: Possible Punctuation Bug Can someone try the following and see if you get the same reaction? - Load the Settings Center and select Punctuation, then Customize Punctuation…
- 2. You’ll be placed in the list of punctuation with the layout of
- Punctuation character, text name of that character, and the punctuation mode for that character
- Arrow down the list until you get to one of the following characters.
- Number, dollar, and, percent, at
- 3. Set the mode for these characters to “none,” then tab to and select Ok.
- Then tab to and select “Apply.”
4. Repeat step#1 and arrow dow the list. Do those characters speak twice So instead of Number, the character itself, Then number, the text name, Then none, the mode, I get the character announced twice, then the text name, then the mode, such as, Number number number none At at at none Dollar dollar dollar none Percent percent percent none And and and none Anyone else get this? Thanks, Dennis T. Brown

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Hi Bill,
This is why I explained how the settings in here
work. He's getting double speak for punctuation marks by setting that mark
on, None, when if it were set on, All, it might be different.
These settings work backwards than what you would
think. For example; If you choose " none " for the dollar sign,
Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in whatever you are
reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all " radio button,
Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.
Stay safe and take care. Mike. PSA Folks: You can still get gas
for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell!
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Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2022 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: Possible Punctuation Bug
Hi,
Mike. Dennis isn't drawing attention to the fact that the punctuation is spoken.
The bug he is reporting is that the punctuation symbols are being spoken
multiple times.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B. Sent:
Saturday, June 25, 2022 2:23 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Possible Punctuation
Bug
Jaws
Quick Settings and Custommize Settings handles punctuation symbols
differently. Below is an explanation.
This
is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in Jaws quick
settings, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the Settings Center
default all applications. They work backwards from one
another.
When
setting punctuation in Jaws quick settings, this controls the amount of
punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize. The default setting is
most. To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or
none.
When
making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells Jaws how
much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore. If you do not
want Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose
the " all " selection. You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or
down through. They are none, some, most, & all. In these
selections they work backwards than what you would think. For
example; If you choose " none " for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak /
recognize every dollar sign in whatever you are reading. On the other
hand, if you choose the " all " radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize
any dollar signs.
Summary:
In short the Jaws quick settings tells Jaws what punctuation to recognize /
speak, & in the Settings Center default all applications /
Customize Punctuation settings, tells Jaws what punctuation to ignore / not
speak. Hence, they work backwards from each other. Hope this
helps some of you understand the differences between the 2 punctuation
setting options. Take care. Mike FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes
bundled with the software.
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Sent:
Saturday, June 25, 2022 9:48 AM
Subject:
Possible Punctuation Bug
Can
someone try the following and see if you get the same
reaction?
- Load the
Settings Center and select Punctuation, then Customize Punctuation…
- 2.
You’ll be placed in the list of punctuation with the layout of
- Punctuation
character, text name of that character, and the punctuation mode for that
character
- Arrow down
the list until you get to one of the following characters.
- Number,
dollar, and, percent, at
- 3. Set the
mode for these characters to “none,” then tab to and select Ok.
- Then tab
to and select “Apply.”
4.
Repeat step#1 and arrow dow the list. Do those characters speak
twice
So
instead of
Number, the character
itself,
Then
number, the text name,
Then
none, the mode,
I get
the character announced twice, then the text name, then the mode, such
as,
Number number number none
At at
at none
Dollar dollar dollar none
Percent percent percent
none
And
and and none
Anyone else get this?
Thanks,
Dennis T. Brown

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Hi Mike, I want it to speak those characters with punctuation set to none, but when it speaks them, it does so twice. Thanks for the explaination though.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 12:08 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Possible Punctuation Bug This is why I explained how the settings in here work. He's getting double speak for punctuation marks by setting that mark on, None, when if it were set on, All, it might be different. These settings work backwards than what you would think. For example; If you choose " none " for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all " radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs. Stay safe and take care. Mike. PSA Folks: You can still get gas for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell! ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2022 3:10 PM Subject: Re: Possible Punctuation Bug Hi, Mike. Dennis isn't drawing attention to the fact that the punctuation is spoken. The bug he is reporting is that the punctuation symbols are being spoken multiple times. Jaws Quick Settings and Custommize Settings handles punctuation symbols differently. Below is an explanation. This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in Jaws quick settings, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the Settings Center default all applications. They work backwards from one another. When setting punctuation in Jaws quick settings, this controls the amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize. The default setting is most. To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none. When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore. If you do not want Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the " all " selection. You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down through. They are none, some, most, & all. In these selections they work backwards than what you would think. For example; If you choose " none " for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all " radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs. Summary: In short the Jaws quick settings tells Jaws what punctuation to recognize / speak, & in the Settings Center default all applications / Customize Punctuation settings, tells Jaws what punctuation to ignore / not speak. Hence, they work backwards from each other. Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2 punctuation setting options. Take care. Mike FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software. ----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2022 9:48 AM Subject: Possible Punctuation Bug Can someone try the following and see if you get the same reaction? - Load the Settings Center and select Punctuation, then Customize Punctuation…
- 2. You’ll be placed in the list of punctuation with the layout of
- Punctuation character, text name of that character, and the punctuation mode for that character
- Arrow down the list until you get to one of the following characters.
- Number, dollar, and, percent, at
- 3. Set the mode for these characters to “none,” then tab to and select Ok.
- Then tab to and select “Apply.”
4. Repeat step#1 and arrow dow the list. Do those characters speak twice So instead of Number, the character itself, Then number, the text name, Then none, the mode, I get the character announced twice, then the text name, then the mode, such as, Number number number none At at at none Dollar dollar dollar none Percent percent percent none And and and none Anyone else get this? Thanks, Dennis T. Brown

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I get the repeats for any item set to "None" or "Some" even without changing any settings. (my punctuation level is set to "None" for most programs, a few use a different profile that is set to "All").
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On 6/25/22, Dennis Brown <dennistbrown@...> wrote: Hi Mike,
I want it to speak those characters with punctuation set to none, but when it speaks them, it does so twice.
Thanks for the explaination though.
Thanks,
Dennis T. Brown
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 12:08 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Possible Punctuation Bug
Hi Bill,
This is why I explained how the settings in here work. He's getting double speak for punctuation marks by setting that mark on, None, when if it were set on, All, it might be different.
These settings work backwards than what you would think. For example; If you choose " none " for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all " radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.
Stay safe and take care. Mike. PSA Folks: You can still get gas for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell!
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From: Bill White <mailto:billwhite92701@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2022 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: Possible Punctuation Bug
Hi, Mike. Dennis isn't drawing attention to the fact that the punctuation is spoken. The bug he is reporting is that the punctuation symbols are being spoken multiple times.
Bill White
<mailto:billwhite92701@...> billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2022 2:23 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Possible Punctuation Bug
Hi Dennis,
Jaws Quick Settings and Custommize Settings handles punctuation symbols differently. Below is an explanation.
This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in Jaws quick settings, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the Settings Center default all applications. They work backwards from one another.
When setting punctuation in Jaws quick settings, this controls the amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize. The default setting is most. To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none.
When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore. If you do not want Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the " all " selection. You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down through. They are none, some, most, & all. In these selections they work backwards than what you would think. For example; If you choose " none " for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all " radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.
Summary: In short the Jaws quick settings tells Jaws what punctuation to recognize / speak, & in the Settings Center default all applications / Customize Punctuation settings, tells Jaws what punctuation to ignore / not speak. Hence, they work backwards from each other.
Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2 punctuation setting options. Take care. Mike FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software.
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From: Dennis Brown <mailto:dennistbrown@...>
To: JFW List <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2022 9:48 AM
Subject: Possible Punctuation Bug
Can someone try the following and see if you get the same reaction?
1. Load the Settings Center and select Punctuation, then Customize Punctuation. 2. 2. You'll be placed in the list of punctuation with the layout of 3. Punctuation character, text name of that character, and the punctuation mode for that character 4. Arrow down the list until you get to one of the following characters. 5. Number, dollar, and, percent, at 6. 3. Set the mode for these characters to "none," then tab to and select Ok. 7. Then tab to and select "Apply."
4. Repeat step#1 and arrow dow the list. Do those characters speak twice
So instead of
Number, the character itself,
Then number, the text name,
Then none, the mode,
I get the character announced twice, then the text name, then the mode, such as,
Number number number none
At at at none
Dollar dollar dollar none
Percent percent percent none
And and and none
Anyone else get this?
Thanks,
Dennis T. Brown
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Thanks for this feedback. I'll pass this along to F S.
Thanks, Dennis T. Brown
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 2:15 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Possible Punctuation Bug I get the repeats for any item set to "None" or "Some" even without changing any settings. (my punctuation level is set to "None" for most programs, a few use a different profile that is set to "All"). On 6/25/22, Dennis Brown <dennistbrown@...> wrote: Hi Mike,
I want it to speak those characters with punctuation set to none, but when it speaks them, it does so twice.
Thanks for the explaination though.
Thanks,
Dennis T. Brown
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 12:08 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Possible Punctuation Bug
Hi Bill,
This is why I explained how the settings in here work. He's getting double speak for punctuation marks by setting that mark on, None, when if it were set on, All, it might be different.
These settings work backwards than what you would think. For example; If you choose " none " for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all " radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.
Stay safe and take care. Mike. PSA Folks: You can still get gas for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell!
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From: Bill White <mailto:billwhite92701@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2022 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: Possible Punctuation Bug
Hi, Mike. Dennis isn't drawing attention to the fact that the punctuation is spoken. The bug he is reporting is that the punctuation symbols are being spoken multiple times.
Bill White
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2022 2:23 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Possible Punctuation Bug
Hi Dennis,
Jaws Quick Settings and Custommize Settings handles punctuation symbols differently. Below is an explanation.
This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in Jaws quick settings, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the Settings Center default all applications. They work backwards from one another.
When setting punctuation in Jaws quick settings, this controls the amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize. The default setting is most. To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none.
When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore. If you do not want Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the " all " selection. You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down through. They are none, some, most, & all. In these selections they work backwards than what you would think. For example; If you choose " none " for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all " radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.
Summary: In short the Jaws quick settings tells Jaws what punctuation to recognize / speak, & in the Settings Center default all applications / Customize Punctuation settings, tells Jaws what punctuation to ignore / not speak. Hence, they work backwards from each other.
Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2 punctuation setting options. Take care. Mike FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software.
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From: Dennis Brown <mailto:dennistbrown@...>
To: JFW List <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2022 9:48 AM
Subject: Possible Punctuation Bug
Can someone try the following and see if you get the same reaction?
1. Load the Settings Center and select Punctuation, then Customize Punctuation. 2. 2. You'll be placed in the list of punctuation with the layout of 3. Punctuation character, text name of that character, and the punctuation mode for that character 4. Arrow down the list until you get to one of the following characters. 5. Number, dollar, and, percent, at 6. 3. Set the mode for these characters to "none," then tab to and select Ok. 7. Then tab to and select "Apply."
4. Repeat step#1 and arrow dow the list. Do those characters speak twice
So instead of
Number, the character itself,
Then number, the text name,
Then none, the mode,
I get the character announced twice, then the text name, then the mode, such as,
Number number number none
At at at none
Dollar dollar dollar none
Percent percent percent none
And and and none
Anyone else get this?
Thanks,
Dennis T. Brown
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