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Rick Mladek
Hi all,
I jump back between JFW 2019 and 2022 due to whatever problems one resolves over the other. Within either version, when I hit the windows key +m key, to go to the desktop, I then hit the alt key down to file manager, for example. The voice then changes to elequence from my default use of an external voice syn. Any ideas to what setting I need to correct so the same voice or scheme is used no matter where I am within the operating system, Windows 10, FYI. I look forward to all help. Rick |
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Udo Egner-Walter
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open File Manager and press Control+Shift+S. The SoundScheme dialog will be opened. Press tab key to set focus for the second combo box. The second combo box is the one which changes your voice for File Manager. Press down arrow and up arrow to select your voice and leave the dialog by pressing enter key or activating the OK button. The next time you activate File Explorer your selected voice (same as in all other apps) should be spoken. Good luck Udo Am 23.03.2022 um 22:11 schrieb Rick Mladek <hmladek@...>: |
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Rick Mladek
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File manager? Do you mean file explorer? If so, I did open file manager and hit the shift +control +s keys and nothing happened. Am I not understanding your directions correctly? If not, please let me know where I am going wrong. Thank you, Rick -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Udo Egner-Walter via groups.io Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 7:25 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Hi Rick, open File Manager and press Control+Shift+S. The SoundScheme dialog will be opened. Press tab key to set focus for the second combo box. The second combo box is the one which changes your voice for File Manager. Press down arrow and up arrow to select your voice and leave the dialog by pressing enter key or activating the OK button. The next time you activate File Explorer your selected voice (same as in all other apps) should be spoken. Good luck Udo Am 23.03.2022 um 22:11 schrieb Rick Mladek <hmladek@...>:resolves over the other. desktop, I then hit the alt key down to file manager, for example. The voice then changes to elequence from my default use of an external voice syn. Any ideas to what setting I need to correct so the same voice or scheme is used no matter where I am within the operating system, Windows 10, FYI. I look forward to all help.
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Udo Egner-Walter
Hi Rick,
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sorry, I don't have an English version of JAWS and Windows so I couldn't say the right name in English. In your first mail you spoke of File Manager. So let's first clear up things: If you speak of file manger do you mean the app with the tree view structure on the left in which you can select the folders of your drive and in which are lists of files on the right? If not please give me more information which app file manger is. What's the difference between file manager and file explorer? Sorry for my questions but I think I need to know to help. Greetings Udo Am 25.03.2022 um 13:00 schrieb Rick Mladek <hmladek@...>: |
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Rick Mladek
Well, your comments of columns left and right mean nothing to a blind user
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of which JAWS is the screen reader. File Explorer, is all the drives and folders within a computer. Downloads and Documents to give a couple as an example. Now, my synthesizer is external, triple talk USB. When I now hit the windows and m key to go to the desktop, I then tab down to file explorer. When I tab off of the desktop, down to the mentioned file explorer, I lose my default profile, the external synthesizer and I get elequence. This is very odd and is with both jaws version 2019 and version 2022. My settings with the voice profile have both/all combination boxes set with the triple talk usb choice yet when I maneuver as exampled, I lose the triple talk and receive elequence for some unknown reason. Thanks for your help, Rick -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Udo Egner-Walter via groups.io Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 8:21 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Hi Rick, sorry, I don't have an English version of JAWS and Windows so I couldn't say the right name in English. In your first mail you spoke of File Manager. So let's first clear up things: If you speak of file manger do you mean the app with the tree view structure on the left in which you can select the folders of your drive and in which are lists of files on the right? If not please give me more information which app file manger is. What's the difference between file manager and file explorer? Sorry for my questions but I think I need to know to help. Greetings Udo Am 25.03.2022 um 13:00 schrieb Rick Mladek <hmladek@...>: |
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Udo Egner-Walter
Hi Rick,
I will write first your statement and after each statement I will write my answer. You wrote: Well, your comments of columns left and right mean nothing to a blind userSorry, but I have to disagree with you. Even as a blind person you can get the necessary informations from JAWS to find out if you are on the right side of the screen or if you are on the left side of the screen. If you press Alt+Delete JAWS will announce the name of the active cursor first and then the pixel coordinates x and y. (left and top). If you are on a control and press the key and then go to the next control and press this key you can find out if you are on the right or on the left. So if you find out the tree view is on the left side and the list view on the right side you automatically will know that the tab key in the tree view probably will bring you faster to the list view on the right side and if you are in the list view on the right that Shift+Tab will bring you to the tree view more quickly than tab key. File Explorer, is all the drivesSo File Explorer is the one with the tree view, right? And File Manager on the other hand probably is the File Explorer without tree view. Now, my synthesizer is external, triple talk USB. When I now hit the windowsPlease press JAWS+Control+S in your app and right after this JAWS+T to get the title of the dialog. What does JAWS announce? You can get the spoken message easy by pressing JAWS+Space then S. This open all spoken messages from JAWS in a dialog and at the end should be the title of the dialog JAWS has spoken by pressing JAWS+T. Thanks for your help,You're welcome. Udo |
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Rick Mladek
Hi again,
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When in file explorer, I did hit shift, control and S keys at same time. I then hit jaws curser and t and it said file explorer. Nothing else able to be done unless I go into a specific folder, downloads for example. When in file explorer, the external syn works again but as I stated earlier, when I hit windows and m to go to desktop, once I hit tab key to go down it goes into elequence. When I hit enter on file explorer, it goes back to the external syn. -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Udo Egner-Walter via groups.io Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 11:43 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Hi Rick, I will write first your statement and after each statement I will write my answer. You wrote: Well, your comments of columns left and right mean nothing to a blindSorry, but I have to disagree with you. Even as a blind person you can get the necessary informations from JAWS to find out if you are on the right side of the screen or if you are on the left side of the screen. If you press Alt+Delete JAWS will announce the name of the active cursor first and then the pixel coordinates x and y. (left and top). If you are on a control and press the key and then go to the next control and press this key you can find out if you are on the right or on the left. So if you find out the tree view is on the left side and the list view on the right side you automatically will know that the tab key in the tree view probably will bring you faster to the list view on the right side and if you are in the list view on the right that Shift+Tab will bring you to the tree view more quickly than tab key. File Explorer, is all the drivesSo File Explorer is the one with the tree view, right? And File Manager on the other hand probably is the File Explorer without tree view. Now, my synthesizer is external, triple talk USB. When I now hit thesome unknown reason. Please press JAWS+Control+S in your app and right after this JAWS+T to get the title of the dialog. What does JAWS announce? You can get the spoken message easy by pressing JAWS+Space then S. This open all spoken messages from JAWS in a dialog and at the end should be the title of the dialog JAWS has spoken by pressing JAWS+T. Thanks for your help,You're welcome. Udo |
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Curtis Chong
Hello Rick:
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Get into the application where the wrong synthesizer becomes active. Press Control, JAWS Key and s. Arrow up and down to pick the synthesizer you want. Tab once and you will be in another field. This has another list of synthesizers, but the topmost entry is "use default". Select that, then hit OK. Cordially, Curtis Chong -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 3:11 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: voice changing Hi all, I jump back between JFW 2019 and 2022 due to whatever problems one resolves over the other. Within either version, when I hit the windows key +m key, to go to the desktop, I then hit the alt key down to file manager, for example. The voice then changes to elequence from my default use of an external voice syn. Any ideas to what setting I need to correct so the same voice or scheme is used no matter where I am within the operating system, Windows 10, FYI. I look forward to all help. Rick |
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Rick Mladek
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This is happening when not in any specific application. Only when I go to desktop then tab down to other choices, as file explorer. I stated file manager incorrectly previusly. Nevertheless, this is happening with two different versions of Jaws, 2019 and 2022. Once within any specific app, it reverts back to the default synthesizer. When I tab down from the desktop, it goes to elequence. I know this was not doing this previously. Any suggestions? Thank you, Rick -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 12:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Hello Rick: Get into the application where the wrong synthesizer becomes active. Press Control, JAWS Key and s. Arrow up and down to pick the synthesizer you want. Tab once and you will be in another field. This has another list of synthesizers, but the topmost entry is "use default". Select that, then hit OK. Cordially, Curtis Chong -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 3:11 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: voice changing Hi all, I jump back between JFW 2019 and 2022 due to whatever problems one resolves over the other. Within either version, when I hit the windows key +m key, to go to the desktop, I then hit the alt key down to file manager, for example. The voice then changes to elequence from my default use of an external voice syn. Any ideas to what setting I need to correct so the same voice or scheme is used no matter where I am within the operating system, Windows 10, FYI. I look forward to all help. Rick |
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Curtis Chong
Contact Vispero Tech Support. Sorry.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 12:53 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Hi, This is happening when not in any specific application. Only when I go to desktop then tab down to other choices, as file explorer. I stated file manager incorrectly previusly. Nevertheless, this is happening with two different versions of Jaws, 2019 and 2022. Once within any specific app, it reverts back to the default synthesizer. When I tab down from the desktop, it goes to elequence. I know this was not doing this previously. Any suggestions? Thank you, Rick -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 12:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Hello Rick: Get into the application where the wrong synthesizer becomes active. Press Control, JAWS Key and s. Arrow up and down to pick the synthesizer you want. Tab once and you will be in another field. This has another list of synthesizers, but the topmost entry is "use default". Select that, then hit OK. Cordially, Curtis Chong -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 3:11 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: voice changing Hi all, I jump back between JFW 2019 and 2022 due to whatever problems one resolves over the other. Within either version, when I hit the windows key +m key, to go to the desktop, I then hit the alt key down to file manager, for example. The voice then changes to elequence from my default use of an external voice syn. Any ideas to what setting I need to correct so the same voice or scheme is used no matter where I am within the operating system, Windows 10, FYI. I look forward to all help. Rick |
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Bill White
Hi, Rick. As Curtis has said, CONTROL plus JAWS key plus S will get you into the selection box for JAWS voice profiles. When you are on the desktop, JAWS is using the Windows OS configuration. so CONTROL plus JAWS key plus S will still give you a selection dialog for voice profiles which should govern which voice is used for the desktop. Try selecting your default external synth while you are on the desktop, and see if this will resolve the problem of the voice changing.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Mladek Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 2:11 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: voice changing Hi all, I jump back between JFW 2019 and 2022 due to whatever problems one resolves over the other. Within either version, when I hit the windows key +m key, to go to the desktop, I then hit the alt key down to file manager, for example. The voice then changes to elequence from my default use of an external voice syn. Any ideas to what setting I need to correct so the same voice or scheme is used no matter where I am within the operating system, Windows 10, FYI. I look forward to all help. Rick |
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Nermin
Hi rick,
you somehow must have changed the synthesiser for the desktop. As far as I remember, the desktop has a different file associated with it as far as JAWS configuration is concerned. To remedy this, with Eloquence speaking, pres CONTROL+JAWSKey+s to bring up the voice profile dialogue. Next, tab to where it says "for Windows oS". This should read "Eloquence". Change the synthesizer to standard, which should be your Triple Talk synthesizer. Press enter, and all should be OK now. Regards, Nermin |
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Rick Mladek
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I'm sorry for bein such a troubled one here. When I click to the desktop, my default synthesizer, Triple-Talk, keeps up and running. From the desktop, when I hit the tab key to go down/over to the start button or to file explorer, this is when elequence jumps in and if I click on anything, file explorer for example, it then goes back to Triple-Talk. How can I keep it to triple talk when I am tabbing down from the desktop? Thanks for your help and understanding, Rick -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 4:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Hi rick, you somehow must have changed the synthesiser for the desktop. As far as I remember, the desktop has a different file associated with it as far as JAWS configuration is concerned. To remedy this, with Eloquence speaking, pres CONTROL+JAWSKey+s to bring up the voice profile dialogue. Next, tab to where it says "for Windows oS". This should read "Eloquence". Change the synthesizer to standard, which should be your Triple Talk synthesizer. Press enter, and all should be OK now. Regards, Nermin |
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Udo Egner-Walter
Hi Rick,
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the moment the synthesizer voice changes to eloquence you should press Ctrl+Shift+S to open the dialog for changing your speech scheme. There you can change your synthesizer voice. If nothing happens by pressing the shortcut Ctrl+Shift+S then press first JAWS+3 to pass the following shortcut to the underlying app and then Ctrl+Shift+S. Good luck Udo Am 29.03.2022 um 17:28 schrieb Rick Mladek <hmladek@...>: |
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Curtis Chong
Hello:
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The shortcut you are actually wanting is Control with Insert with S. Or Control with Caps Lock with S if using the laptop layout. Cordially, Curtis Chong -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Udo Egner-Walter via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 9:47 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Hi Rick, the moment the synthesizer voice changes to eloquence you should press Ctrl+Shift+S to open the dialog for changing your speech scheme. There you can change your synthesizer voice. If nothing happens by pressing the shortcut Ctrl+Shift+S then press first JAWS+3 to pass the following shortcut to the underlying app and then Ctrl+Shift+S. Good luck Udo Am 29.03.2022 um 17:28 schrieb Rick Mladek <hmladek@...>:my default synthesizer, Triple-Talk, keeps up and running. From the desktop, when I hit the tab key to go down/over to the start button or to file explorer, this is when elequence jumps in and if I click on anything, file explorer for example, it then goes back to Triple-Talk. How can I keep it to triple talk when I am tabbing down from the desktop? groups.io Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 4:21 PMas far as JAWS configuration is concerned.
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Rick Mladek
Sorry, did not work. I was able to hit control +jaws +s and it asked for a
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scheme to pick, it is set already on classic. Not what I was looking for nevertheless. Troubled, Rick -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Udo Egner-Walter via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 11:47 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Hi Rick, the moment the synthesizer voice changes to eloquence you should press Ctrl+Shift+S to open the dialog for changing your speech scheme. There you can change your synthesizer voice. If nothing happens by pressing the shortcut Ctrl+Shift+S then press first JAWS+3 to pass the following shortcut to the underlying app and then Ctrl+Shift+S. Good luck Udo Am 29.03.2022 um 17:28 schrieb Rick Mladek <hmladek@...>:my default synthesizer, Triple-Talk, keeps up and running. From the desktop, when I hit the tab key to go down/over to the start button or to file explorer, this is when elequence jumps in and if I click on anything, file explorer for example, it then goes back to Triple-Talk. How can I keep it to triple talk when I am tabbing down from the desktop? as far as JAWS configuration is concerned.
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Rick Mladek
When I hit this, I got a dialogue to pick a scheme, it is on classic. What
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am I to choose? It gives nothing within all 23 options of any synthesizer. Rick -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 11:48 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Hello: The shortcut you are actually wanting is Control with Insert with S. Or Control with Caps Lock with S if using the laptop layout. Cordially, Curtis Chong -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Udo Egner-Walter via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 9:47 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Hi Rick, the moment the synthesizer voice changes to eloquence you should press Ctrl+Shift+S to open the dialog for changing your speech scheme. There Ctrl+Shift+you can change your synthesizer voice. If nothing happens by pressing the shortcut Ctrl+Shift+S then press first JAWS+3 to pass the following shortcut to the underlying app and then Ctrl+Shift+S. Good luck Udo Am 29.03.2022 um 17:28 schrieb Rick Mladek <hmladek@...>:my default synthesizer, Triple-Talk, keeps up and running. From the desktop, when I hit the tab key to go down/over to the start button or to file explorer, this is when elequence jumps in and if I click on anything, file explorer for example, it then goes back to Triple-Talk. How can I keep it to triple talk when I am tabbing down from the desktop? groups.io Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 4:21 PMas far as JAWS configuration is concerned.
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Bill White
Hi, Rick. The correct keystroke to select a scheme is ALT plus JAWS key plus
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S. The keystroke to select a new profile is CONTROL plus JAWS key plus S. They should not both be set to select a sound scheme. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Mladek Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 9:09 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Sorry, did not work. I was able to hit control +jaws +s and it asked for a scheme to pick, it is set already on classic. Not what I was looking for nevertheless. Troubled, Rick -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Udo Egner-Walter via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 11:47 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Hi Rick, the moment the synthesizer voice changes to eloquence you should press Ctrl+Shift+S to open the dialog for changing your speech scheme. There you can change your synthesizer voice. If nothing happens by pressing the shortcut Ctrl+Shift+S then press first JAWS+3 to pass the following shortcut to the underlying app and then Ctrl+Shift+S. Good luck Udo Am 29.03.2022 um 17:28 schrieb Rick Mladek <hmladek@...>:my default synthesizer, Triple-Talk, keeps up and running. From the desktop, when I hit the tab key to go down/over to the start button or to file explorer, this is when elequence jumps in and if I click on anything, file explorer for example, it then goes back to Triple-Talk. How can I keep it to triple talk when I am tabbing down from the desktop? as far as JAWS configuration is concerned.
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Rick Mladek
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None of the key strokes are working. Odd is it is, it is what it is. -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 12:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Hi, Rick. The correct keystroke to select a scheme is ALT plus JAWS key plus S. The keystroke to select a new profile is CONTROL plus JAWS key plus S. They should not both be set to select a sound scheme. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Mladek Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 9:09 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Sorry, did not work. I was able to hit control +jaws +s and it asked for a scheme to pick, it is set already on classic. Not what I was looking for nevertheless. Troubled, Rick -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Udo Egner-Walter via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 11:47 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Hi Rick, the moment the synthesizer voice changes to eloquence you should press Ctrl+Shift+S to open the dialog for changing your speech scheme. There Ctrl+Shift+you can change your synthesizer voice. If nothing happens by pressing the shortcut Ctrl+Shift+S then press first JAWS+3 to pass the following shortcut to the underlying app and then Ctrl+Shift+S. Good luck Udo Am 29.03.2022 um 17:28 schrieb Rick Mladek <hmladek@...>:my default synthesizer, Triple-Talk, keeps up and running. From the desktop, when I hit the tab key to go down/over to the start button or to file explorer, this is when elequence jumps in and if I click on anything, file explorer for example, it then goes back to Triple-Talk. How can I keep it to triple talk when I am tabbing down from the desktop? as far as JAWS configuration is concerned.
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Bill White
Hi, Rick. You should be speaking with Freedom Scientific if the keystroke,
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JAWS key plus CONTROL plus S does not give you the opportunity to select a profile. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Mladek Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 9:58 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Hi, None of the key strokes are working. Odd is it is, it is what it is. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 12:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Hi, Rick. The correct keystroke to select a scheme is ALT plus JAWS key plus S. The keystroke to select a new profile is CONTROL plus JAWS key plus S. They should not both be set to select a sound scheme. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Mladek Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 9:09 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Sorry, did not work. I was able to hit control +jaws +s and it asked for a scheme to pick, it is set already on classic. Not what I was looking for nevertheless. Troubled, Rick -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Udo Egner-Walter via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 11:47 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice changing Hi Rick, the moment the synthesizer voice changes to eloquence you should press Ctrl+Shift+S to open the dialog for changing your speech scheme. There Ctrl+Shift+you can change your synthesizer voice. If nothing happens by pressing the shortcut Ctrl+Shift+S then press first JAWS+3 to pass the following shortcut to the underlying app and then Ctrl+Shift+S. Good luck Udo Am 29.03.2022 um 17:28 schrieb Rick Mladek <hmladek@...>:my default synthesizer, Triple-Talk, keeps up and running. From the desktop, when I hit the tab key to go down/over to the start button or to file explorer, this is when elequence jumps in and if I click on anything, file explorer for example, it then goes back to Triple-Talk. How can I keep it to triple talk when I am tabbing down from the desktop? as far as JAWS configuration is concerned.
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