Moderated Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box
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Mark Fisher
Hi everyone
Whilst on leave watching the Olympics, I’ve finally noticed a number of what looks like recent shortcuts below the search edit box on the Google homepage. With mouse echo turned on, I can tell they are links to either sites I visit frequently. However, JAWS does not recognize them as links. They do come up if you use JAWS Key+Ctrl+B to display a list of buttons but the text for all options says “More Actions Button”.
You can tab to them but again, JAWS only reads “More Actions Button”. It is only by using Mouse Echo that JAWS will read what they are. This appears to be a quicker way to get to some favourite websites from the home screen rather than going into the menus.
Has anyone used these and if so, is labelling the buttons using the custom label feature the best option?
Cheers
Mark
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As soon as I type a couple of characters, which acts as a search limiter for what appears under the search edit box, I can just down-arrow and start going through the returned results, and have each announced as I traverse the items.
If I enter nothing, and just start down arrowing when in the search box, the list of recent trending searches comes up and each item in it is announced. It sounds like this is what you're looking for. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected. ~ William Plomer |
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Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
For me Jaws Key + Control + B brings up the following when I’m on the Google.com main page:
Select a Button dialog‑ Google Account: Sieghard Weitzel (sieghardw@...) Button 2 of 7 Doodle Champion Island Games! Button 3 of 7 Search by voice Button 4 of 7 Google Search Button 5 of 7 I’m Feeling Lucky Button 6 of 7 Settings Button 7 of 7
Having said this, once I activate the search edit field I can simply down arrow for a list of my recent searches and if there is one I want to repeat I just press enter on it.
Best regards, Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Mark Fisher
Sent: July 29, 2021 4:28 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box
Hi everyone
Whilst on leave watching the Olympics, I’ve finally noticed a number of what looks like recent shortcuts below the search edit box on the Google homepage. With mouse echo turned on, I can tell they are links to either sites I visit frequently. However, JAWS does not recognize them as links. They do come up if you use JAWS Key+Ctrl+B to display a list of buttons but the text for all options says “More Actions Button”.
You can tab to them but again, JAWS only reads “More Actions Button”. It is only by using Mouse Echo that JAWS will read what they are. This appears to be a quicker way to get to some favourite websites from the home screen rather than going into the menus.
Has anyone used these and if so, is labelling the buttons using the custom label feature the best option?
Cheers
Mark
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Mark Fisher
Hi, thanks for your responses Brian and Cieghard.E
When I do my buttons list, I get the following: Google apps Button 1 of 14 Google Account: Mark Fisher (meetthefishers@...) Button Search by voice Button More actions Button More actions Button More actions Button More actions Button More actions Button More actions Button More actions Button More actions Button More actions Button Add shortcut Button Customize Chrome Button So from what I can tell, the "More Actions Buttons" are a list of shortcuts. Clicking on "Add Shortcut" allows me to provide a name and a URL which when saved, appear below the search box. This makes it easier to click on frequently used webpages rather than trying to find them in your favourites. It would just be better if JAWS would provide the name of each ubtton as you tab over them. Trust this makes sense. I might try the Google Accessibility Desk. Regards Mark -- Mark Fisher Manager - People Systems Water Corporation |
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Mark,
What I cannot figure out is why you're using any form of buttons list. If you want the list of recently trending searches, then get in the search edit box and down arrow, they will be read. If you want some subset of searches you've done before, enter a couple of characters in the search edit box and down arrow. Your original request states, " I’ve finally noticed a number of what looks like recent shortcuts below the search edit box on the Google homepage." These are not buttons, have never been buttons, and are not accessed as buttons. You just down arrow through them and, in the case of trending searches, these constantly change and may be different if you jump out of the list or edit search box and come right back to it just a moment later. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected. ~ William Plomer |
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Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
I agree with Brian and I am not sure what all these More Options buttons are because I certainly don't get them. When I just brought up a list of buttons on the Google home page I only had 6, then when I maximized the Window I had 8, but only because when the Window was maximized "Google Search" and "I'm Feeling Lucky" showed up twice. I don't even get a single "More Options" button. Not sure if Mark said which browser he is using when he posted his original message, but that would be good to know.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: July 30, 2021 4:26 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box
Mark,
Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected. ~ William Plomer |
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Bill White
Hi, Sieghard. I don't get a more options button either, but I also have predictability turned off in all my browsers, because I want to type in exactly what I am searching for, without my browser giving me phrases to search for which I didn't want.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 7:56 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box
I agree with Brian and I am not sure what all these More Options buttons are because I certainly don't get them. When I just brought up a list of buttons on the Google home page I only had 6, then when I maximized the Window I had 8, but only because when the Window was maximized "Google Search" and "I'm Feeling Lucky" showed up twice. I don't even get a single "More Options" button. Not sure if Mark said which browser he is using when he posted his original message, but that would be good to know.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Mark,
Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected. ~ William Plomer |
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Dave Durber
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Bill:
I use Waterfox as my browser. I use
duckduckgo.com, as my default search engine. When I need to use google.com and
enter the search edit fieled, as soon as I start typing, google.com starts
performing its delimited word function, however, I do not have this
problem, when I perform searches using duckduckgo.com. When I log into my
google.com account, I do not seem to be able to find where to turn this annoying
function off? Can you or anyone help me?
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave
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Mike B.
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Hi Dave,
When I use Google as my search engine or
homepage with Waterfox, I can't stop the predictive search or search suggestions
or what ever it's called that repeats everything I type into the search
field. But, if I use any other search engine this doesn't happen. I
have the predictive search turned off and I have all the spellcheck features
turned off as well as any other related settings. As soon as I switch
search engines or my home page from Google this all stops.
Stay safe & take care. Mike. Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!" ----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2021 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search
Edit Box Bill:
I use Waterfox as my browser. I use
duckduckgo.com, as my default search engine. When I need to use google.com and
enter the search edit fieled, as soon as I start typing, google.com starts
performing its delimited word function, however, I do not have this
problem, when I perform searches using duckduckgo.com. When I log into my
google.com account, I do not seem to be able to find where to turn this annoying
function off? Can you or anyone help me?
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave
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Bill White
Hi, Dave. If you have a Google account, you can sign in, and, under the Settings menu that appears at the bottom of the Google Search Page, you can click Search Settings. Under that category, you can turn off Popular Searches. Once this is turned off, you won't get search suggestions in Google.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 12:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box
Bill:
I use Waterfox as my browser. I use duckduckgo.com, as my default search engine. When I need to use google.com and enter the search edit fieled, as soon as I start typing, google.com starts performing its delimited word function, however, I do not have this problem, when I perform searches using duckduckgo.com. When I log into my google.com account, I do not seem to be able to find where to turn this annoying function off? Can you or anyone help me?
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave
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Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
I don't find this a bother at all in Google, I just type what I want to type, if something pops up which is what I want then good and if not then I just finish typing my search term and press enter. In any case, you have to actually arrow down to get these search suggestions as you type, maybe they are showing up visually for a sighted person, but Jaws never speaks anything other than what I just typed. Of course I am actually going to www.Google.com and type into the search edit combo box, I never use the address bar unless I want to enter an actual URL. Having said that, turning auto complete or whatever you want to call it is easy for the address bar, I quite like it because when I go to websites I visit regularly I just have to type the first couple of letters and press enter when I hear the correct one. For example, if I want to go to Amazon.ca I typically get the suggestion after typing just the A
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 12:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box
Bill:
I use Waterfox as my browser. I use duckduckgo.com, as my default search engine. When I need to use google.com and enter the search edit fieled, as soon as I start typing, google.com starts performing its delimited word function, however, I do not have this problem, when I perform searches using duckduckgo.com. When I log into my google.com account, I do not seem to be able to find where to turn this annoying function off? Can you or anyone help me?
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave
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Mike B.
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Hi again Dave,
Okay, if I use Google as my search engine and
any other homepage other than, www.google.com/, I don't have Jaws repeating
what I type when I type into the search field. I find Jaws repeating what
I type very irritating and using the Google .com homepage is the only homepage
that'll do this. I'm not getting any sort of predictive searches
populating and being spoken, only what I'm typing into the search field of the
Google homepage. I've signed into my Google account and turned off all
necessary settings that I can find to stop this, saved the settings and pressed
enter on the Okay button, but Jaws repeating what I type continues in the search
field.
I've also turned off settings in Waterfox for
saving history, predictive searches, suggested websites, search as I type but
still as long as I use Google as the homepage the Jaws repeating what I type
continues. Others may not find this irritating, but I do, so I'm just
going to use a blank page or something like Startpage as a
homepage.
Stay safe & take care. Mike. Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!" ----- Original Message -----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2021 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search
Edit Box I don't find this a bother at all in Google, I just type what I want to type, if something pops up which is what I want then good and if not then I just finish typing my search term and press enter. In any case, you have to actually arrow down to get these search suggestions as you type, maybe they are showing up visually for a sighted person, but Jaws never speaks anything other than what I just typed. Of course I am actually going to www.Google.com and type into the search edit combo box, I never use the address bar unless I want to enter an actual URL. Having said that, turning auto complete or whatever you want to call it is easy for the address bar, I quite like it because when I go to websites I visit regularly I just have to type the first couple of letters and press enter when I hear the correct one. For example, if I want to go to Amazon.ca I typically get the suggestion after typing just the A
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main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave
Durber
Bill:
I use Waterfox as my browser. I use duckduckgo.com, as my default search engine. When I need to use google.com and enter the search edit fieled, as soon as I start typing, google.com starts performing its delimited word function, however, I do not have this problem, when I perform searches using duckduckgo.com. When I log into my google.com account, I do not seem to be able to find where to turn this annoying function off? Can you or anyone help me?
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave
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Bob Kennedy
Hey Mike, It sounds more like a Jaws issue than Google. I hate hearing the repeat myself, especially when I'm logging in and Jaws says star star star for my password. You may have to go into settings for Jaws and save it especially for Google. Right now I can't tell you exactly how to do that because I don't do it that often and after the stroke, memory just isn't what it used to be. But you're a smart guy and I know you'll figure it out... On Sunday, August 1, 2021, 12:10:04 PM EDT, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote: Hi again Dave, Okay, if I use Google as my search engine and any other homepage other than, www.google.com/, I don't have Jaws repeating what I type when I type into the search field. I find Jaws repeating what I type very irritating and using the Google .com homepage is the only homepage that'll do this. I'm not getting any sort of predictive searches populating and being spoken, only what I'm typing into the search field of the Google homepage. I've signed into my Google account and turned off all necessary settings that I can find to stop this, saved the settings and pressed enter on the Okay button, but Jaws repeating what I type continues in the search field. I've also turned off settings in Waterfox for saving history, predictive searches, suggested websites, search as I type but still as long as I use Google as the homepage the Jaws repeating what I type continues. Others may not find this irritating, but I do, so I'm just going to use a blank page or something like Startpage as a homepage. Stay safe & take care. Mike. Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!" ----- Original Message ----- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2021 8:46 AM Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box I don't find this a bother at all in Google, I just type what I want to type, if something pops up which is what I want then good and if not then I just finish typing my search term and press enter. In any case, you have to actually arrow down to get these search suggestions as you type, maybe they are showing up visually for a sighted person, but Jaws never speaks anything other than what I just typed. Of course I am actually going to www.Google.com and type into the search edit combo box, I never use the address bar unless I want to enter an actual URL. Having said that, turning auto complete or whatever you want to call it is easy for the address bar, I quite like it because when I go to websites I visit regularly I just have to type the first couple of letters and press enter when I hear the correct one. For example, if I want to go to Amazon.ca I typically get the suggestion after typing just the A
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Bill:
I use Waterfox as my browser. I use duckduckgo.com, as my default search engine. When I need to use google.com and enter the search edit fieled, as soon as I start typing, google.com starts performing its delimited word function, however, I do not have this problem, when I perform searches using duckduckgo.com. When I log into my google.com account, I do not seem to be able to find where to turn this annoying function off? Can you or anyone help me?
Thanks in anticipation.
Dave
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Dave Durber
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Ceigard:
That is all fine and dandy for individuals like
yourself but, I find it an intolerable intrusion and a distraction, which is why
I would like to be able to turn this google function off. I do not like having
JAWS echo characters as I type for the same reason.
Dave
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