moderated if you were getting a new computer.


Jim Rawls
 

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim


Dave Durber
 

Jim:
 
All my PC computers, have 2 120 GB Kingston SSD drives, 1 for the system and any programs I have installed, and the other for holding a fixed PageFile.sys, and for holding folders such as Contacts; Documents; Downloads; Favorites. If I chose, I could also have Music; Saved Games; Pictures; Searches; Videos; located on the drive. I also have my email clients folders stored on the drive.
 
By not having any personal data on the system drive, I do not have to think about which folders need to be copied or moved, before I perform an image backup of the drive. In addition, by not storing any personal data on the system drive, image backup files are smaller, and therefore, they take less time to create, and restore, which means that, If I need to restore an image to any of the systems, I am able to use that particular computer much faster.
 
One of my PC computers, which I call my server, has 4, 4 TB HDD drives, for storing the rest of my personal data.
 
If you went for the same configuration, you could add 1 or more SSD or HDD drives, to store the rest of your personal data.
 
Dave
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 7:26 AM
Subject: if you were getting a new computer.

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim


john clayton
 

Hi Jim,
 Here's what I would suggest you get.
 At least a I5 or I7th gen processor, the newer the better or an AMD equivalent 
 1 SSD and 1 HDD. the SSd to act as your C drive and where your windows and programs you use frequently go, and the HDD to store things such as music, movies etc. SSd minimum 128GB 256GB preferred, 512 if you can pull that off. HDD should be around 1TB to 4TB, totally up to you and your budget.
8GB of ram should be more than enough for most things, but if you want to future proof your machine, go for 16GB ram instead.
Hope that helped some,

 

On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 11:56, Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...> wrote:

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim



--
***
“The most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.”


Barbara Sheinbein
 

Hi Jim,

 

Others have mentioned some specs, but I do have a few other ideas for you to consider.  You probably want to be sure your new computer has a camera, one which automatically focuses.  Why you ask?  If you participate in any zoom meetings with friends or family, they will want to see you.  Only one of my two computers has a camera and I must be sure to use it in these situations.

 

Another suggestion is your backup situation.  There are a lot of ways to do this nowadays.  I currently purchased Office 365 which has a very reasonable fee system.  You can set this up with your wife and she can have access to your files.  There is a way to do this and also a way not to share, so you can keep all your secrets!  It is JAWS friendly.  You will have lots of storage for your music or anything else you wish.  There are a variety of packages to select from.  Keep in mind this is where Microsoft is putting all their efforts, so it will likely always be the most accessible.  I also wanted this so if I am unable to access my information due to health for example, my family who I share this with can get access to important information.  There are other cloud storage options out there, but you may want to look at those, but after my own review with my sister, we decided on One Drive.

 

This would eliminate you looking for a less expensive version of Office as well.

 

I also have a network drive.  This has some duplication with the cloud storage, but I had this before I signed up for Office 365.  A network drive allows me to store and work from this physical drive which operates via the modem.  There is a password to prevent others from getting access.  It automatically backs up to a mirror drive so if the primary drive goes bad, all my information will still be available.

 

Lots of moving pieces to consider.  Smile.

 

Good luck.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 1:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim


Hope Williamson <webspinner@...>
 

If I could get one right now, here's what I'd do.

    I'd definitely get 16-32 GB of ram, because if you want the thing to last for 6-7 years, you just never know what's going to be needed that far down the road. I'd definitely go for an I7, although it doesn't have to be the fastest one out there, they're already fast.

    I'd see if I could get a 1 TB SSd, and a 2-4 TB external drive. That should store everything you need, and then some. There's most likely no need for a secondary internal drive, if you can pull off a 1 TB SSD.

On 4/15/2021 5:42 AM, john clayton wrote:
Hi Jim,
 Here's what I would suggest you get.
 At least a I5 or I7th gen processor, the newer the better or an AMD equivalent 
 1 SSD and 1 HDD. the SSd to act as your C drive and where your windows and programs you use frequently go, and the HDD to store things such as music, movies etc. SSd minimum 128GB 256GB preferred, 512 if you can pull that off. HDD should be around 1TB to 4TB, totally up to you and your budget.
8GB of ram should be more than enough for most things, but if you want to future proof your machine, go for 16GB ram instead.
Hope that helped some,

 

On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 11:56, Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...> wrote:

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim



--
***
“The most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.”


Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

I too would stick with SSD depending on your space needs 512 GB or 1 TB.

I would not put the files I value on an HD drive these days since the price of SSD has come down so far.

 

I believe there is now an I8 if not an I9 chip.

I have the I7 and it is great and all I need.

 

Make sure you have at least 3 USB ports.

A built-in SD card reader.

I don’t know if Windows is putting in USBC ports, but that would be nice since many things are going that way.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hope Williamson
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

If I could get one right now, here's what I'd do.

    I'd definitely get 16-32 GB of ram, because if you want the thing to last for 6-7 years, you just never know what's going to be needed that far down the road. I'd definitely go for an I7, although it doesn't have to be the fastest one out there, they're already fast.

    I'd see if I could get a 1 TB SSd, and a 2-4 TB external drive. That should store everything you need, and then some. There's most likely no need for a secondary internal drive, if you can pull off a 1 TB SSD.

On 4/15/2021 5:42 AM, john clayton wrote:

Hi Jim,

 Here's what I would suggest you get.

 At least a I5 or I7th gen processor, the newer the better or an AMD equivalent 

 1 SSD and 1 HDD. the SSd to act as your C drive and where your windows and programs you use frequently go, and the HDD to store things such as music, movies etc. SSd minimum 128GB 256GB preferred, 512 if you can pull that off. HDD should be around 1TB to 4TB, totally up to you and your budget.

8GB of ram should be more than enough for most things, but if you want to future proof your machine, go for 16GB ram instead.

Hope that helped some,

 

 

 

On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 11:56, Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...> wrote:

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim


 

--

***
“The most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.”


Jim Rawls
 

Hi Barbara, is the storage on OneDrive related  to office 365? If not, how much can you putt on one drive? Jim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi Jim,

 

Others have mentioned some specs, but I do have a few other ideas for you to consider.  You probably want to be sure your new computer has a camera, one which automatically focuses.  Why you ask?  If you participate in any zoom meetings with friends or family, they will want to see you.  Only one of my two computers has a camera and I must be sure to use it in these situations.

 

Another suggestion is your backup situation.  There are a lot of ways to do this nowadays.  I currently purchased Office 365 which has a very reasonable fee system.  You can set this up with your wife and she can have access to your files.  There is a way to do this and also a way not to share, so you can keep all your secrets!  It is JAWS friendly.  You will have lots of storage for your music or anything else you wish.  There are a variety of packages to select from.  Keep in mind this is where Microsoft is putting all their efforts, so it will likely always be the most accessible.  I also wanted this so if I am unable to access my information due to health for example, my family who I share this with can get access to important information.  There are other cloud storage options out there, but you may want to look at those, but after my own review with my sister, we decided on One Drive.

 

This would eliminate you looking for a less expensive version of Office as well.

 

I also have a network drive.  This has some duplication with the cloud storage, but I had this before I signed up for Office 365.  A network drive allows me to store and work from this physical drive which operates via the modem.  There is a password to prevent others from getting access.  It automatically backs up to a mirror drive so if the primary drive goes bad, all my information will still be available.

 

Lots of moving pieces to consider.  Smile.

 

Good luck.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 1:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim

 


Barbara Sheinbein
 

Hi jim,

 

You cannot purchase One Drive on its own.  The only way is to buy Office 365.  One of the several programs that come with this is One Drive.  My family package comes with 1TB of storage for myself and the same for each family member.  See this link

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/onedrive/compare-onedrive-plans?activetab=tab%3aprimaryr1

 

You can get a one month free trial if interested.

 

Barbara

 

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/onedrive/compare-onedrive-plans?activetab=tab%3aprimaryr1s

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 3:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi Barbara, is the storage on OneDrive related  to office 365? If not, how much can you putt on one drive? Jim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi Jim,

 

Others have mentioned some specs, but I do have a few other ideas for you to consider.  You probably want to be sure your new computer has a camera, one which automatically focuses.  Why you ask?  If you participate in any zoom meetings with friends or family, they will want to see you.  Only one of my two computers has a camera and I must be sure to use it in these situations.

 

Another suggestion is your backup situation.  There are a lot of ways to do this nowadays.  I currently purchased Office 365 which has a very reasonable fee system.  You can set this up with your wife and she can have access to your files.  There is a way to do this and also a way not to share, so you can keep all your secrets!  It is JAWS friendly.  You will have lots of storage for your music or anything else you wish.  There are a variety of packages to select from.  Keep in mind this is where Microsoft is putting all their efforts, so it will likely always be the most accessible.  I also wanted this so if I am unable to access my information due to health for example, my family who I share this with can get access to important information.  There are other cloud storage options out there, but you may want to look at those, but after my own review with my sister, we decided on One Drive.

 

This would eliminate you looking for a less expensive version of Office as well.

 

I also have a network drive.  This has some duplication with the cloud storage, but I had this before I signed up for Office 365.  A network drive allows me to store and work from this physical drive which operates via the modem.  There is a password to prevent others from getting access.  It automatically backs up to a mirror drive so if the primary drive goes bad, all my information will still be available.

 

Lots of moving pieces to consider.  Smile.

 

Good luck.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 1:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim

 


Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

We are up to Gen 10 from Intel and they are solid CPU's for the money. I use I5's myself. I7 or higher CPU's are for high end gaming and video editing. I also prefer 16GB of RAM but 8 or 12 is plenty unless you do video or photo editing. An SSD is a must and 256GB is fine for the OS and programs. Of course big as you can afford is what I would suggest. I store all my media and personal data on a second drive. 4TB is what I have now in 2 machines and 2TB in the third. Onboard sound and video is more than enough unless of course you do video or audio editing. Then a dedicated video and or audio card is recommended. USB 3.1 is a must And a couple of type C connections should be considered.


On 4/14/2021 11:26 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim


Glenn / Lenny
 

One option to consider, if someone wants to store a lot of stuff, and not rely on the cloud, is a blue ray burner for a computer.
You can get them external, but if I were building a new one, I'd get one built in.
The single layer ones burn up to 25 GB per disk, and the dual layer burners can typically do 50 GB, and you can even get 100 GB disks for the dual layer burners.
Here's an article.
 
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

We are up to Gen 10 from Intel and they are solid CPU's for the money. I use I5's myself. I7 or higher CPU's are for high end gaming and video editing. I also prefer 16GB of RAM but 8 or 12 is plenty unless you do video or photo editing. An SSD is a must and 256GB is fine for the OS and programs. Of course big as you can afford is what I would suggest. I store all my media and personal data on a second drive. 4TB is what I have now in 2 machines and 2TB in the third. Onboard sound and video is more than enough unless of course you do video or audio editing. Then a dedicated video and or audio card is recommended. USB 3.1 is a must And a couple of type C connections should be considered.


On 4/14/2021 11:26 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim


David Ingram
 

Hi, if I were getting a new computer, here are the things that I would want first would be the amount of ram would be at least 64 gb of ram, the fastest ram that would be supported by the motherboard.  Second, would be the number of hard drives,4 hard drives. drive speed would be 10,000 rpm size of hard drive would be 2tb for each drive.  Latest i7 or in this case i9 processor with 16 coars.  Operating system windows 10 pro 2 cd rom drives.  a monitor keyboard, speakers These would be the specs for a new computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Apr 15, 2021 3:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

Hi Barbara, is the storage on OneDrive related  to office 365? If not, how much can you putt on one drive? Jim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi Jim,

 

Others have mentioned some specs, but I do have a few other ideas for you to consider.  You probably want to be sure your new computer has a camera, one which automatically focuses.  Why you ask?  If you participate in any zoom meetings with friends or family, they will want to see you.  Only one of my two computers has a camera and I must be sure to use it in these situations.

 

Another suggestion is your backup situation.  There are a lot of ways to do this nowadays.  I currently purchased Office 365 which has a very reasonable fee system.  You can set this up with your wife and she can have access to your files.  There is a way to do this and also a way not to share, so you can keep all your secrets!  It is JAWS friendly.  You will have lots of storage for your music or anything else you wish.  There are a variety of packages to select from.  Keep in mind this is where Microsoft is putting all their efforts, so it will likely always be the most accessible.  I also wanted this so if I am unable to access my information due to health for example, my family who I share this with can get access to important information.  There are other cloud storage options out there, but you may want to look at those, but after my own review with my sister, we decided on One Drive.

 

This would eliminate you looking for a less expensive version of Office as well.

 

I also have a network drive.  This has some duplication with the cloud storage, but I had this before I signed up for Office 365.  A network drive allows me to store and work from this physical drive which operates via the modem.  There is a password to prevent others from getting access.  It automatically backs up to a mirror drive so if the primary drive goes bad, all my information will still be available.

 

Lots of moving pieces to consider.  Smile.

 

Good luck.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 1:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim

 


john clayton
 

ridiculous.
Nobody reasonable would need such a machine for home use, ever.
 My suggestion is to ignore this post entirely, pointless.
Cheers

On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 12:04, David Ingram <dingram269@...> wrote:
Hi, if I were getting a new computer, here are the things that I would want first would be the amount of ram would be at least 64 gb of ram, the fastest ram that would be supported by the motherboard.  Second, would be the number of hard drives,4 hard drives. drive speed would be 10,000 rpm size of hard drive would be 2tb for each drive.  Latest i7 or in this case i9 processor with 16 coars.  Operating system windows 10 pro 2 cd rom drives.  a monitor keyboard, speakers These would be the specs for a new computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Apr 15, 2021 3:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

Hi Barbara, is the storage on OneDrive related  to office 365? If not, how much can you putt on one drive? Jim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi Jim,

 

Others have mentioned some specs, but I do have a few other ideas for you to consider.  You probably want to be sure your new computer has a camera, one which automatically focuses.  Why you ask?  If you participate in any zoom meetings with friends or family, they will want to see you.  Only one of my two computers has a camera and I must be sure to use it in these situations.

 

Another suggestion is your backup situation.  There are a lot of ways to do this nowadays.  I currently purchased Office 365 which has a very reasonable fee system.  You can set this up with your wife and she can have access to your files.  There is a way to do this and also a way not to share, so you can keep all your secrets!  It is JAWS friendly.  You will have lots of storage for your music or anything else you wish.  There are a variety of packages to select from.  Keep in mind this is where Microsoft is putting all their efforts, so it will likely always be the most accessible.  I also wanted this so if I am unable to access my information due to health for example, my family who I share this with can get access to important information.  There are other cloud storage options out there, but you may want to look at those, but after my own review with my sister, we decided on One Drive.

 

This would eliminate you looking for a less expensive version of Office as well.

 

I also have a network drive.  This has some duplication with the cloud storage, but I had this before I signed up for Office 365.  A network drive allows me to store and work from this physical drive which operates via the modem.  There is a password to prevent others from getting access.  It automatically backs up to a mirror drive so if the primary drive goes bad, all my information will still be available.

 

Lots of moving pieces to consider.  Smile.

 

Good luck.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 1:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim

 



--
***
“The most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.”


Steve Matzura
 

David,


There are things about computers you fundamentally don't understand, and I can prove this by reposting messages you've put up on other lists that indicate you think bigger is better. That's true to a point, but your specifications go way past that point, on to the point of just tossing money around for the sake thereof. . Your specifications are fantastic, even for a commercial data center, but you forgot one thing--the size of the internal drives. 2TB? a 10000RPM drive and only 2TB? 64GB of system memory, 95% of which you'll never use, and only 8TB of combined storage? Come on, man--if you're going to throw money away, why not go for real broke and get respectably-sized drives, like maybe 12TB, making your aggregate storage 48TB.


What on earth do you plan on doing with this thing? Putting a Xeon processor in it and starting Ingram Timesharing or something? BIG LOL!


And of course you know that three months after you buy all of this, which would cost you the better part of at least eight grand, some component of it would be obsolete, or support for some hardware component would end abruptly. That's just the way things are in this business, you know.


And after all of the above, would the songs you write or play be any better? That's the real question. Never mind the hardware. An i3 with four gigs of RAM can produce the same music that your behemoth could, and you could use the leftover money on a promotions budget.



On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 12:04, David Ingram <dingram269@...> wrote:
Hi, if I were getting a new computer, here are the things that I would want first would be the amount of ram would be at least 64 gb of ram, the fastest ram that would be supported by the motherboard.  Second, would be the number of hard drives,4 hard drives. drive speed would be 10,000 rpm size of hard drive would be 2tb for each drive.  Latest i7 or in this case i9 processor with 16 coars.  Operating system windows 10 pro 2 cd rom drives.  a monitor keyboard, speakers These would be the specs for a new computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Apr 15, 2021 3:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

Hi Barbara, is the storage on OneDrive related  to office 365? If not, how much can you putt on one drive? Jim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi Jim,

 

Others have mentioned some specs, but I do have a few other ideas for you to consider.  You probably want to be sure your new computer has a camera, one which automatically focuses.  Why you ask?  If you participate in any zoom meetings with friends or family, they will want to see you.  Only one of my two computers has a camera and I must be sure to use it in these situations.

 

Another suggestion is your backup situation.  There are a lot of ways to do this nowadays.  I currently purchased Office 365 which has a very reasonable fee system.  You can set this up with your wife and she can have access to your files.  There is a way to do this and also a way not to share, so you can keep all your secrets!  It is JAWS friendly.  You will have lots of storage for your music or anything else you wish.  There are a variety of packages to select from.  Keep in mind this is where Microsoft is putting all their efforts, so it will likely always be the most accessible.  I also wanted this so if I am unable to access my information due to health for example, my family who I share this with can get access to important information.  There are other cloud storage options out there, but you may want to look at those, but after my own review with my sister, we decided on One Drive.

 

This would eliminate you looking for a less expensive version of Office as well.

 

I also have a network drive.  This has some duplication with the cloud storage, but I had this before I signed up for Office 365.  A network drive allows me to store and work from this physical drive which operates via the modem.  There is a password to prevent others from getting access.  It automatically backs up to a mirror drive so if the primary drive goes bad, all my information will still be available.

 

Lots of moving pieces to consider.  Smile.

 

Good luck.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 1:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim

 



--
***
“The most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.”


 

On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 09:38 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I would not put the files I value on an HD drive these days since the price of SSD has come down so far.
-
I really do not understand this statement, and I say that as a professional computer tech.

I personally prefer SSDs for OS drives just due to the speed factor, but definitely not for reliability or recoverability.  All of my personal backup drives are HDDs because they are very reliable (and have been for decades now) and will generally give you lots of warning signs before failure.  SSDs have a tendency to be very much like jump drives, SD cards, and similar in that when they decide to die they just up and die.  And I can definitely say that the cost of data recovery from SSDs (and other similar media) is far more expensive and less certain than HDDs.

I wouldn't even think of using an SSD as my primary backup media.  Until they become far less inclined to sudden death, and until data recovery probability goes way up and costs go way down, I'll use HDDs as backup media.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


Mario
 

if I were to configure a new computer, I would tend to copy Randy's selections, but include an internal video and sound card, and maybe purchase a couple of external SSD drives.

-------- Original Message --------
From: john clayton [mailto:nishantrana3@gmail.com]
Subject: if you were getting a new computer.
Date: Friday, April 16, 2021, 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
ridiculous.
Nobody reasonable would need such a machine for home use, ever.
My suggestion is to ignore this post entirely, pointless.
Cheers

On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 12:04, David Ingram <dingram269@earthlink.net
<mailto:dingram269@earthlink.net>> wrote:

Hi, if I were getting a new computer, here are the things that I
would want first would be the amount of ram would be at least 64 gb
of ram, the fastest ram that would be supported by the motherboard.
Second, would be the number of hard drives,4 hard drives. drive
speed would be 10,000 rpm size of hard drive would be 2tb for each
drive. Latest i7 or in this case i9 processor with 16 coars.
Operating system windows 10 pro 2 cd rom drives. a monitor
keyboard, speakers These would be the specs for a new computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Rawls __
Sent: Apr 15, 2021 3:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

Hi Barbara, is the storage on OneDrive related to office 365?
If not, how much can you putt on one drive? Jim ____

__ __

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] *On
Behalf Of *Barbara Sheinbein
*Sent:* Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:26 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: if you were getting a new computer.____

__ __

Hi Jim,____

__ __

Others have mentioned some specs, but I do have a few other
ideas for you to consider. You probably want to be sure your
new computer has a camera, one which automatically focuses. Why
you ask? If you participate in any zoom meetings with friends
or family, they will want to see you. Only one of my two
computers has a camera and I must be sure to use it in these
situations.____

__ __

Another suggestion is your backup situation. There are a lot of
ways to do this nowadays. I currently purchased Office 365
which has a very reasonable fee system. You can set this up
with your wife and she can have access to your files. There is
a way to do this and also a way not to share, so you can keep
all your secrets! It is JAWS friendly. You will have lots of
storage for your music or anything else you wish. There are a
variety of packages to select from. Keep in mind this is where
Microsoft is putting all their efforts, so it will likely always
be the most accessible. I also wanted this so if I am unable to
access my information due to health for example, my family who I
share this with can get access to important information. There
are other cloud storage options out there, but you may want to
look at those, but after my own review with my sister, we
decided on One Drive.____

__ __

This would eliminate you looking for a less expensive version of
Office as well.____

__ __

I also have a network drive. This has some duplication with the
cloud storage, but I had this before I signed up for Office
365. A network drive allows me to store and work from this
physical drive which operates via the modem. There is a
password to prevent others from getting access. It
automatically backs up to a mirror drive so if the primary drive
goes bad, all my information will still be available.____

__ __

Lots of moving pieces to consider. Smile.____

__ __

Good luck.____

__ __

Barbara____

__ __

__ __

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*Jim Rawls
*Sent:* Thursday, April 15, 2021 1:26 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* if you were getting a new computer.____

__ __

Hi all, ____

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am
getting, so, I want your opinions. ____

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and
use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a
good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my
primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but I’m
open to suggestions on any recorder you like. How much memory
etc. would you like? any of these thoughts are appreciated. I
am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my new
computer.[Jim____

__ __

__



--
***
“The most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle.
The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.”


 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 09:39 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:
What on earth do you plan on doing with this thing?
-
This is the first and primary question anyone planning to purchase a computer should be asking.  I have seen far too many of my clients who were sold grossly overspecced systems for what they intend to do with them.  You match your tool to your task(s) and give yourself a bit of growing room.

From my business webpage:  "Unless you have very demanding computing needs it's unlikely you need or want a computer with every available bell and whistle."

People, even screen reader users, who are doing little more than web browsing, emailing, and using various typical office suite programs do not need a machine that's tricked out to the degree that it would work for multi-player realtime online gamers or professionals who use 3D modeling or animation software.  And unused processing power and/or memory is just a dead asset and waste of money.

I haven't seen even an intense business user need more than 16GB of RAM, and very few home users will ever benefit from that much, though if they've got it this will give most of them plenty of breathing room in the RAM department.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


 

Hi,

I concur with Brian and others who pointed out that it is important to think about purposes of getting a new computer and choose specs based on them. I myself have settled on a ThinkPad for the next laptop due to the reputation of its keyboard, as I sought a writer’s machine with decent specs (not the top of the line).

If I read Jim’s initial request correctly, he wants a machine for music production and related tasks. For these, I think a decent Intel I5 or I7 would suffice (four to six cores), or a cheaper alternative being a mid-range AMD Ryzen (3 or 5 should be enough). Apart from RAM (8 to 16 GB should be enough for music production needs), what’s more important for music professionals is the quality of the sound card (internal sound cards may work, but if one wants to get into heavy music production, add-on cards (PCI Express) or mixers are preferred, and you must factor that when purchasing this particular system).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 6:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 09:39 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:

What on earth do you plan on doing with this thing?

-
This is the first and primary question anyone planning to purchase a computer should be asking.  I have seen far too many of my clients who were sold grossly overspecced systems for what they intend to do with them.  You match your tool to your task(s) and give yourself a bit of growing room.

From my business webpage:  "Unless you have very demanding computing needs it's unlikely you need or want a computer with every available bell and whistle."

People, even screen reader users, who are doing little more than web browsing, emailing, and using various typical office suite programs do not need a machine that's tricked out to the degree that it would work for multi-player realtime online gamers or professionals who use 3D modeling or animation software.  And unused processing power and/or memory is just a dead asset and waste of money.

I haven't seen even an intense business user need more than 16GB of RAM, and very few home users will ever benefit from that much, though if they've got it this will give most of them plenty of breathing room in the RAM department.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


Juan Hernandez
 

Um, why these weird stats?

\

My current rig has 64gb ram, 1tb ssd, i9 10900k, 10-core cpu, and a 4tb 7200rpm hdd for backup/other storage.

 

I also have a nvidia rtx3080 that I use for machine learning work loads.

 

This cost me 3700 us dollars.

 

I do very cpu/memory intensive tasks.  What would you do with your monster of a computer?  Even I feel it’s a bit over the top.

 

But, to each their own, and its your money 😊

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Ingram
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 11:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi, if I were getting a new computer, here are the things that I would want first would be the amount of ram would be at least 64 gb of ram, the fastest ram that would be supported by the motherboard.  Second, would be the number of hard drives,4 hard drives. drive speed would be 10,000 rpm size of hard drive would be 2tb for each drive.  Latest i7 or in this case i9 processor with 16 coars.  Operating system windows 10 pro 2 cd rom drives.  a monitor keyboard, speakers These would be the specs for a new computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Apr 15, 2021 3:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.


Hi Barbara, is the storage on OneDrive related  to office 365? If not, how much can you putt on one drive? Jim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi Jim,

 

Others have mentioned some specs, but I do have a few other ideas for you to consider.  You probably want to be sure your new computer has a camera, one which automatically focuses.  Why you ask?  If you participate in any zoom meetings with friends or family, they will want to see you.  Only one of my two computers has a camera and I must be sure to use it in these situations.

 

Another suggestion is your backup situation.  There are a lot of ways to do this nowadays.  I currently purchased Office 365 which has a very reasonable fee system.  You can set this up with your wife and she can have access to your files.  There is a way to do this and also a way not to share, so you can keep all your secrets!  It is JAWS friendly.  You will have lots of storage for your music or anything else you wish.  There are a variety of packages to select from.  Keep in mind this is where Microsoft is putting all their efforts, so it will likely always be the most accessible.  I also wanted this so if I am unable to access my information due to health for example, my family who I share this with can get access to important information.  There are other cloud storage options out there, but you may want to look at those, but after my own review with my sister, we decided on One Drive.

 

This would eliminate you looking for a less expensive version of Office as well.

 

I also have a network drive.  This has some duplication with the cloud storage, but I had this before I signed up for Office 365.  A network drive allows me to store and work from this physical drive which operates via the modem.  There is a password to prevent others from getting access.  It automatically backs up to a mirror drive so if the primary drive goes bad, all my information will still be available.

 

Lots of moving pieces to consider.  Smile.

 

Good luck.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 1:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim

 


Juan Hernandez
 

Well said!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 7:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi,

I concur with Brian and others who pointed out that it is important to think about purposes of getting a new computer and choose specs based on them. I myself have settled on a ThinkPad for the next laptop due to the reputation of its keyboard, as I sought a writer’s machine with decent specs (not the top of the line).

If I read Jim’s initial request correctly, he wants a machine for music production and related tasks. For these, I think a decent Intel I5 or I7 would suffice (four to six cores), or a cheaper alternative being a mid-range AMD Ryzen (3 or 5 should be enough). Apart from RAM (8 to 16 GB should be enough for music production needs), what’s more important for music professionals is the quality of the sound card (internal sound cards may work, but if one wants to get into heavy music production, add-on cards (PCI Express) or mixers are preferred, and you must factor that when purchasing this particular system).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 6:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 09:39 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:

What on earth do you plan on doing with this thing?

-
This is the first and primary question anyone planning to purchase a computer should be asking.  I have seen far too many of my clients who were sold grossly overspecced systems for what they intend to do with them.  You match your tool to your task(s) and give yourself a bit of growing room.

From my business webpage:  "Unless you have very demanding computing needs it's unlikely you need or want a computer with every available bell and whistle."

People, even screen reader users, who are doing little more than web browsing, emailing, and using various typical office suite programs do not need a machine that's tricked out to the degree that it would work for multi-player realtime online gamers or professionals who use 3D modeling or animation software.  And unused processing power and/or memory is just a dead asset and waste of money.

I haven't seen even an intense business user need more than 16GB of RAM, and very few home users will ever benefit from that much, though if they've got it this will give most of them plenty of breathing room in the RAM department.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


 

Richard's statement made me pause too. Conventional hard disk drives have been around since the mid 1980s and have gotten better, more reliable, and less expensive during that time. They are much more reliable as a backup medium as opposed to SSDs which are still evolving and expensive in my opinion.

Alan Lemly 

with Outlook for iOS


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 8:52:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.
 
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 09:38 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I would not put the files I value on an HD drive these days since the price of SSD has come down so far.
-
I really do not understand this statement, and I say that as a professional computer tech.

I personally prefer SSDs for OS drives just due to the speed factor, but definitely not for reliability or recoverability.  All of my personal backup drives are HDDs because they are very reliable (and have been for decades now) and will generally give you lots of warning signs before failure.  SSDs have a tendency to be very much like jump drives, SD cards, and similar in that when they decide to die they just up and die.  And I can definitely say that the cost of data recovery from SSDs (and other similar media) is far more expensive and less certain than HDDs.

I wouldn't even think of using an SSD as my primary backup media.  Until they become far less inclined to sudden death, and until data recovery probability goes way up and costs go way down, I'll use HDDs as backup media.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide