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Moderated Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers
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Debby Hill
Hi all,
I am using Edge and Chrome with the latest Windows 10 and the latest JAWS—that is the January update. I have been working on some fairly large webpages, and when I do a Control + F to find something on a page it seems that JAWS gets stuck at the top of the page. Neither arrowing or tabbing up or down goes anywhere. The only way I can get to the result is to press F6 to cycle through all of the various bars until I get back to the webpage. It’s not a big problem, but it is time consuming, and it doesn’t seem it should be happening. It is happening in both Edge and Chrome.
I generally work from my Mantis Q40 with blue tooth using the laptop settings for JAWS keystrokes. I have tried going to my desktop computer and changing to desktop layout and even using a different braille display using usb, but no change.
By the way, the find command works correctly in IE, and with the chromium browsers with JAWS 2020. Also, I have tried using control + insert + F instead of just insert + F and no go.
I called Freedom Scientific and we repaired JAWS, but no change.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks for any help!
Take care and stay safe!
Debby |
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Chris Hill
Hello. Why are you using the browser's own find command? If you are in virtual pc mode, the jaws find command is the one you will want to use, it is insert-ctrl-f on the normal desktop layout. It will work much better.
CH
On 1/28/2021 07:21, Debby Hill wrote:
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Mario
BTW, if NVDA ever should be needed to be used, it has it's own find feature using the same keystrokes, insert+control+f.
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From: Chris Hill [mailto:hillco@...] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Thursday, January 28, 2021, 8:56 AM Subject: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers Hello. Why are you using the browser's own find command? If you are in virtual pc mode, the jaws find command is the one you will want to use, it is insert-ctrl-f on the normal desktop layout. It will work much better. CH On 1/28/2021 07:21, Debby Hill wrote: Hi all, I am using Edge and Chrome with the latest Windows 10 and the latest JAWS—that is the January update. I have been working on some fairly large webpages, and when I do a Control + F to find something on a page it seems that JAWS gets stuck at the top of the page. Neither arrowing or tabbing up or down goes anywhere. The only way I can get to the result is to press F6 to cycle through all of the various bars until I get back to the webpage. It’s not a big problem, but it is time consuming, and it doesn’t seem it should be happening. It is happening in both Edge and Chrome. I generally work from my Mantis Q40 with blue tooth using the laptop settings for JAWS keystrokes. I have tried going to my desktop computer and changing to desktop layout and even using a different braille display using usb, but no change. By the way, the find command works correctly in IE, and with the chromium browsers with JAWS 2020. Also, I have tried using control + insert + F instead of just insert + F and no go. I called Freedom Scientific and we repaired JAWS, but no change. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks for any help! Take care and stay safe! Debby |
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Debby Hill
I have tried control + insert F before and I just tried it now, and no go! I
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am stuck at the top of the page. By the way, in both cases control + insert + F and insert + F JAWS says "JAWS find." Thanks for trying! Debby -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:04 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers BTW, if NVDA ever should be needed to be used, it has it's own find feature using the same keystrokes, insert+control+f. -------- Original Message -------- From: Chris Hill [mailto:hillco@...] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Thursday, January 28, 2021, 8:56 AM Subject: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers Hello. Why are you using the browser's own find command? If you are in virtual pc mode, the jaws find command is the one you will want to use, it is insert-ctrl-f on the normal desktop layout. It will work much better. CH On 1/28/2021 07:21, Debby Hill wrote: Hi all, I am using Edge and Chrome with the latest Windows 10 and the latest JAWS—that is the January update. I have been working on some fairly large webpages, and when I do a Control + F to find something on a page it seems that JAWS gets stuck at the top of the page. Neither arrowing or tabbing up or down goes anywhere. The only way I can get to the result is to press F6 to cycle through all of the various bars until I get back to the webpage. It’s not a big problem, but it is time consuming, and it doesn’t seem it should be happening. It is happening in both Edge and Chrome. I generally work from my Mantis Q40 with blue tooth using the laptop settings for JAWS keystrokes. I have tried going to my desktop computer and changing to desktop layout and even using a different braille display using usb, but no change. By the way, the find command works correctly in IE, and with the chromium browsers with JAWS 2020. Also, I have tried using control + insert + F instead of just insert + F and no go. I called Freedom Scientific and we repaired JAWS, but no change. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks for any help! Take care and stay safe! Debby |
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Michael Mote
Hi Debbie. I am sure you have already tried this, but are you sure that your browser is maximized. Windows plus up arrow should do it for you.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debby Hill
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 8:22 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers
Hi all,
I am using Edge and Chrome with the latest Windows 10 and the latest JAWS—that is the January update. I have been working on some fairly large webpages, and when I do a Control + F to find something on a page it seems that JAWS gets stuck at the top of the page. Neither arrowing or tabbing up or down goes anywhere. The only way I can get to the result is to press F6 to cycle through all of the various bars until I get back to the webpage. It’s not a big problem, but it is time consuming, and it doesn’t seem it should be happening. It is happening in both Edge and Chrome.
I generally work from my Mantis Q40 with blue tooth using the laptop settings for JAWS keystrokes. I have tried going to my desktop computer and changing to desktop layout and even using a different braille display using usb, but no change.
By the way, the find command works correctly in IE, and with the chromium browsers with JAWS 2020. Also, I have tried using control + insert + F instead of just insert + F and no go.
I called Freedom Scientific and we repaired JAWS, but no change.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks for any help!
Take care and stay safe!
Debby |
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Adrian Spratt
Debby,
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Have you tried starting the search from a line or so below the top of the page? JAWS seems to treat the very top line differently from the rest of a page. -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debby Hill Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:15 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers I have tried control + insert F before and I just tried it now, and no go! I am stuck at the top of the page. By the way, in both cases control + insert + F and insert + F JAWS says "JAWS find." Thanks for trying! Debby -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:04 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers BTW, if NVDA ever should be needed to be used, it has it's own find feature using the same keystrokes, insert+control+f. -------- Original Message -------- From: Chris Hill [mailto:hillco@...] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Thursday, January 28, 2021, 8:56 AM Subject: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers Hello. Why are you using the browser's own find command? If you are in virtual pc mode, the jaws find command is the one you will want to use, it is insert-ctrl-f on the normal desktop layout. It will work much better. CH On 1/28/2021 07:21, Debby Hill wrote: Hi all, I am using Edge and Chrome with the latest Windows 10 and the latest JAWS-that is the January update. I have been working on some fairly large webpages, and when I do a Control + F to find something on a page it seems that JAWS gets stuck at the top of the page. Neither arrowing or tabbing up or down goes anywhere. The only way I can get to the result is to press F6 to cycle through all of the various bars until I get back to the webpage. It's not a big problem, but it is time consuming, and it doesn't seem it should be happening. It is happening in both Edge and Chrome. I generally work from my Mantis Q40 with blue tooth using the laptop settings for JAWS keystrokes. I have tried going to my desktop computer and changing to desktop layout and even using a different braille display using usb, but no change. By the way, the find command works correctly in IE, and with the chromium browsers with JAWS 2020. Also, I have tried using control + insert + F instead of just insert + F and no go. I called Freedom Scientific and we repaired JAWS, but no change. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks for any help! Take care and stay safe! Debby |
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Debby Hill
Adrian, I liked your idea, but no go.
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Mike or anyone, when you maximize, does it say it is maximizing? I am not sure mine is working. I did go into the context menu on edge and told it to maximize the window on startup of edge. No go. Debby -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:22 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers Debby, Have you tried starting the search from a line or so below the top of the page? JAWS seems to treat the very top line differently from the rest of a page. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debby Hill Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:15 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers I have tried control + insert F before and I just tried it now, and no go! I am stuck at the top of the page. By the way, in both cases control + insert + F and insert + F JAWS says "JAWS find." Thanks for trying! Debby -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:04 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers BTW, if NVDA ever should be needed to be used, it has it's own find feature using the same keystrokes, insert+control+f. -------- Original Message -------- From: Chris Hill [mailto:hillco@...] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Thursday, January 28, 2021, 8:56 AM Subject: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers Hello. Why are you using the browser's own find command? If you are in virtual pc mode, the jaws find command is the one you will want to use, it is insert-ctrl-f on the normal desktop layout. It will work much better. CH On 1/28/2021 07:21, Debby Hill wrote: Hi all, I am using Edge and Chrome with the latest Windows 10 and the latest JAWS-that is the January update. I have been working on some fairly large webpages, and when I do a Control + F to find something on a page it seems that JAWS gets stuck at the top of the page. Neither arrowing or tabbing up or down goes anywhere. The only way I can get to the result is to press F6 to cycle through all of the various bars until I get back to the webpage. It's not a big problem, but it is time consuming, and it doesn't seem it should be happening. It is happening in both Edge and Chrome. I generally work from my Mantis Q40 with blue tooth using the laptop settings for JAWS keystrokes. I have tried going to my desktop computer and changing to desktop layout and even using a different braille display using usb, but no change. By the way, the find command works correctly in IE, and with the chromium browsers with JAWS 2020. Also, I have tried using control + insert + F instead of just insert + F and no go. I called Freedom Scientific and we repaired JAWS, but no change. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks for any help! Take care and stay safe! Debby |
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Chris Hill
Hmmm, are you saying it never starts the find command, or the find command isn't finding what you expect? If the first, ctrl-insert-f is supposed to work, and does everywhere I've ever tried it, ff, chrome, or edge. I'd call fs if that is the case.
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Mario
I don't believe it does. an alternate way to maximize is to press alt+spacebar x.
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From: Debby Hill [mailto:dm-hill@...] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Thursday, January 28, 2021, 9:50 AM Subject: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers Adrian, I liked your idea, but no go. Mike or anyone, when you maximize, does it say it is maximizing? I am not sure mine is working. I did go into the context menu on edge and told it to maximize the window on startup of edge. No go. Debby -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:22 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers Debby, Have you tried starting the search from a line or so below the top of the page? JAWS seems to treat the very top line differently from the rest of a page. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debby Hill Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:15 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers I have tried control + insert F before and I just tried it now, and no go! I am stuck at the top of the page. By the way, in both cases control + insert + F and insert + F JAWS says "JAWS find." Thanks for trying! Debby -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:04 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers BTW, if NVDA ever should be needed to be used, it has it's own find feature using the same keystrokes, insert+control+f. -------- Original Message -------- From: Chris Hill [mailto:hillco@...] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Thursday, January 28, 2021, 8:56 AM Subject: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers Hello. Why are you using the browser's own find command? If you are in virtual pc mode, the jaws find command is the one you will want to use, it is insert-ctrl-f on the normal desktop layout. It will work much better. CH On 1/28/2021 07:21, Debby Hill wrote: Hi all, I am using Edge and Chrome with the latest Windows 10 and the latest JAWS-that is the January update. I have been working on some fairly large webpages, and when I do a Control + F to find something on a page it seems that JAWS gets stuck at the top of the page. Neither arrowing or tabbing up or down goes anywhere. The only way I can get to the result is to press F6 to cycle through all of the various bars until I get back to the webpage. It's not a big problem, but it is time consuming, and it doesn't seem it should be happening. It is happening in both Edge and Chrome. I generally work from my Mantis Q40 with blue tooth using the laptop settings for JAWS keystrokes. I have tried going to my desktop computer and changing to desktop layout and even using a different braille display using usb, but no change. By the way, the find command works correctly in IE, and with the chromium browsers with JAWS 2020. Also, I have tried using control + insert + F instead of just insert + F and no go. I called Freedom Scientific and we repaired JAWS, but no change. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks for any help! Take care and stay safe! Debby . |
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Adrian Spratt
A way you can confirm if a window is maximized is by going into the system menu with alt-space. Here, you arrow up or down through a few options, one of which is maximized.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debby Hill Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:51 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers Adrian, I liked your idea, but no go. Mike or anyone, when you maximize, does it say it is maximizing? I am not sure mine is working. I did go into the context menu on edge and told it to maximize the window on startup of edge. No go. Debby -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:22 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers Debby, Have you tried starting the search from a line or so below the top of the page? JAWS seems to treat the very top line differently from the rest of a page. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debby Hill Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:15 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers I have tried control + insert F before and I just tried it now, and no go! I am stuck at the top of the page. By the way, in both cases control + insert + F and insert + F JAWS says "JAWS find." Thanks for trying! Debby -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:04 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers BTW, if NVDA ever should be needed to be used, it has it's own find feature using the same keystrokes, insert+control+f. -------- Original Message -------- From: Chris Hill [mailto:hillco@...] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Thursday, January 28, 2021, 8:56 AM Subject: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers Hello. Why are you using the browser's own find command? If you are in virtual pc mode, the jaws find command is the one you will want to use, it is insert-ctrl-f on the normal desktop layout. It will work much better. CH On 1/28/2021 07:21, Debby Hill wrote: Hi all, I am using Edge and Chrome with the latest Windows 10 and the latest JAWS-that is the January update. I have been working on some fairly large webpages, and when I do a Control + F to find something on a page it seems that JAWS gets stuck at the top of the page. Neither arrowing or tabbing up or down goes anywhere. The only way I can get to the result is to press F6 to cycle through all of the various bars until I get back to the webpage. It's not a big problem, but it is time consuming, and it doesn't seem it should be happening. It is happening in both Edge and Chrome. I generally work from my Mantis Q40 with blue tooth using the laptop settings for JAWS keystrokes. I have tried going to my desktop computer and changing to desktop layout and even using a different braille display using usb, but no change. By the way, the find command works correctly in IE, and with the chromium browsers with JAWS 2020. Also, I have tried using control + insert + F instead of just insert + F and no go. I called Freedom Scientific and we repaired JAWS, but no change. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks for any help! Take care and stay safe! Debby |
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Debby Hill
Adrian, thanks for the reminder on the system menu. I knew I needed to look at that, but was having brain freeze on how to get there.
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Chris, both methods for doing the find actually do find what I am looking for, but to get to the results I have to press F6 and cycle through all of the bars to get back on the webpage with the result. JAWS or edge, I don't know which, gets stuck on the top line of the page. Neither arrowing or tabbing will move it from there. Thanks for all of the help! Debby -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:56 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers Hmmm, are you saying it never starts the find command, or the find command isn't finding what you expect? If the first, ctrl-insert-f is supposed to work, and does everywhere I've ever tried it, ff, chrome, or edge. I'd call fs if that is the case. On 1/28/2021 08:14, Debby Hill wrote: I have tried control + insert F before and I just tried it now, and no |
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Mario
Debby, to get back into the website where you can navigate as usual, you can press alt+d which puts you into the address bar and then shift+f6.
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From: Debby Hill [mailto:dm-hill@...] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Thursday, January 28, 2021, 10:14 AM Subject: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers Adrian, thanks for the reminder on the system menu. I knew I needed to look at that, but was having brain freeze on how to get there. Chris, both methods for doing the find actually do find what I am looking for, but to get to the results I have to press F6 and cycle through all of the bars to get back on the webpage with the result. JAWS or edge, I don't know which, gets stuck on the top line of the page. Neither arrowing or tabbing will move it from there. Thanks for all of the help! Debby -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:56 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers Hmmm, are you saying it never starts the find command, or the find command isn't finding what you expect? If the first, ctrl-insert-f is supposed to work, and does everywhere I've ever tried it, ff, chrome, or edge. I'd call fs if that is the case. On 1/28/2021 08:14, Debby Hill wrote: I have tried control + insert F before and I just tried it now, and no go! I am stuck at the top of the page. By the way, in both cases control + insert + F and insert + F JAWS says "JAWS find." Thanks for trying! Debby -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:04 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers BTW, if NVDA ever should be needed to be used, it has it's own find feature using the same keystrokes, insert+control+f. -------- Original Message -------- From: Chris Hill [mailto:hillco@...] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Thursday, January 28, 2021, 8:56 AM Subject: Problem with Find Command in Chromium Browsers Hello. Why are you using the browser's own find command? If you are in virtual pc mode, the jaws find command is the one you will want to use, it is insert-ctrl-f on the normal desktop layout. It will work much better. CH On 1/28/2021 07:21, Debby Hill wrote: Hi all, I am using Edge and Chrome with the latest Windows 10 and the latest JAWS—that is the January update. I have been working on some fairly large webpages, and when I do a Control + F to find something on a page it seems that JAWS gets stuck at the top of the page. Neither arrowing or tabbing up or down goes anywhere. The only way I can get to the result is to press F6 to cycle through all of the various bars until I get back to the webpage. It’s not a big problem, but it is time consuming, and it doesn’t seem it should be happening. It is happening in both Edge and Chrome. I generally work from my Mantis Q40 with blue tooth using the laptop settings for JAWS keystrokes. I have tried going to my desktop computer and changing to desktop layout and even using a different braille display using usb, but no change. By the way, the find command works correctly in IE, and with the chromium browsers with JAWS 2020. Also, I have tried using control + insert + F instead of just insert + F and no go. I called Freedom Scientific and we repaired JAWS, but no change. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks for any help! Take care and stay safe! Debby . |
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