moderated Setting for Jarte


David Griffith
 

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021 compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


David Goldfield
 

Hi. From this page:

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase "enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

Note to JAWS users: Jarte is currently unable to recognize the presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021 compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



David Goldfield
 

As an aside I don't understand why screen reader mode can't be included as an option in the program's menu system to make it a bit easier for users who either want to enable or disable this mode in a way that is a bit more obvious. I will suggest this to the developers but I encourage others to do the same if this is a feature you feel is important.
As another aside there are several other ways to enable screen reader mode, including modifying a line of text in the .ini file but the method described in my previous message is perhaps the simplest.
If NVDA is running Jarte does seem to detect this screen reader and the screen reader mode is usually enabled automatically. I wish a similar arrangement could be made for JAWS users.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 8:18 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hi. From this page:

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase "enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

Note to JAWS users: Jarte is currently unable to recognize the presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021 compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 




Mario
 

the site where Jarte is gotten from says that there is no more support. that is why Jarte Plus (the formerly paid version) is now freely available.
I would imagine that that includes development.

-------- Original Message --------
From: David Goldfield [mailto:david.goldfield@outlook.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Friday, November 27, 2020, 8:24 AM
Subject: Setting for Jarte
As an aside I don't understand why screen reader mode can't be included
as an option in the program's menu system to make it a bit easier for
users who either want to enable or disable this mode in a way that is a
bit more obvious. I will suggest this to the developers but I encourage
others to do the same if this is a feature you feel is important.
As another aside there are several other ways to enable screen reader
mode, including modifying a line of text in the .ini file but the method
described in my previous message is perhaps the simplest.
If NVDA is running Jarte does seem to detect this screen reader and the
screen reader mode is usually enabled automatically. I wish a similar
arrangement could be made for JAWS users.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 8:18 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
Hi. From this page:
<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jarte.com%2Fhelp_new%2Fscreen_reader_mode.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C62f4f763c26342e3bc9008d892d6e845%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420798995243089%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=KUK4szrV4zwZJufHHbikYP5RSvNe%2FmgJA0l5RkFvqJU%3D&reserved=0>

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can
force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase
"enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting
Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

*Note to JAWS users:*Jarte is currently unable to recognize the
presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you
will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to
force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte
work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided
this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no
longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to
Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021
compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

Sent from Mail
<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=04%7C01%7C%7C62f4f763c26342e3bc9008d892d6e845%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420798995263074%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=PW09UIPql3l8oC1vUd7jxHImayqFqv8mUDjyZjAXsC8%3D&reserved=0>

for Windows 10


David Goldfield
 

Mario, I had no idea this had happened. While I'm thrilled that Jarte Plus is now free for everyone I am very sorry to hear that development of Jarte has stopped. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 10:18 AM, Mario wrote:
the site where Jarte is gotten from says that there is no more support. that is why Jarte Plus (the formerly paid version) is now freely available.
I would imagine that that includes development.

-------- Original Message --------
From: David Goldfield [mailto:david.goldfield@outlook.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Friday, November 27, 2020, 8:24 AM
Subject: Setting for Jarte
As an aside I don't understand why screen reader mode can't be included
as an option in the program's menu system to make it a bit easier for
users who either want to enable or disable this mode in a way that is a
bit more obvious. I will suggest this to the developers but I encourage
others to do the same if this is a feature you feel is important.
As another aside there are several other ways to enable screen reader
mode, including modifying a line of text in the .ini file but the method
described in my previous message is perhaps the simplest.
If NVDA is running Jarte does seem to detect this screen reader and the
screen reader mode is usually enabled automatically. I wish a similar
arrangement could be made for JAWS users.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidgoldfield.org%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7C5b7c47aa51884587a55d08d892e7a9e9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420870965362517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Wn7Kjp3WyYpzABEpXIdI730YLz60FPWzQHRN44yLHDM%3D&amp;reserved=0

On 11/27/2020 8:18 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
Hi. From this page:
<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jarte.com%2Fhelp_new%2Fscreen_reader_mode.html&;data=04%7C01%7C%7C5b7c47aa51884587a55d08d892e7a9e9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420870965362517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=ClpCtPuRobiiNPtMn6B5w3QJm7yi7YFKlI2L6EAgKVo%3D&amp;reserved=0>

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can
force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase
"enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting
Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

*Note to JAWS users:*Jarte is currently unable to recognize the
presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you
will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to
force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidgoldfield.org%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7C5b7c47aa51884587a55d08d892e7a9e9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420870965372512%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=clnyEa%2F%2FCNiw2KocGHJ6qVt5kWOIH5YV%2FC%2B55xdFPuo%3D&amp;reserved=0
On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte
work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided
this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no
longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to
Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021
compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

Sent from Mail
<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&;data=04%7C01%7C%7C5b7c47aa51884587a55d08d892e7a9e9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420870965372512%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=NC3kfGGrUlBgk59jRv4SqJR2qR39lhtc58ZFdnCuuEw%3D&amp;reserved=0>
for Windows 10









David Griffith
 

 

Thanks for this but this was not the  setting change I was looking for.

Jaws 2021 will not interact with the text even with Jarte in screenreader mode. So I cannot for example navigate by word, though I can with Jaws 2020 and NVDA.

From memory it might be something to do with turning advance edit mode off or something like that in the Jaws settings.

I will go and have a look.

 

David G.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Goldfield
Sent: 27 November 2020 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

 

Hi. From this page:


If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase "enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

Note to JAWS users: Jarte is currently unable to recognize the presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021 compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


David Goldfield
 

Ah, yes, I see the problem. From the Setting Center type "edit" and toggle the setting for enhanced edit mode. That should definitely fix the problem.
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 1:03 PM, David Griffith wrote:

 

Thanks for this but this was not the  setting change I was looking for.

Jaws 2021 will not interact with the text even with Jarte in screenreader mode. So I cannot for example navigate by word, though I can with Jaws 2020 and NVDA.

From memory it might be something to do with turning advance edit mode off or something like that in the Jaws settings.

I will go and have a look.

 

David G.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Goldfield
Sent: 27 November 2020 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

 

Hi. From this page:


If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase "enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

Note to JAWS users: Jarte is currently unable to recognize the presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021 compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 



David Griffith
 

 

Yes great  - that was it.

I now have to save the email in case I forget it again.

David G.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Goldfield
Sent: 27 November 2020 18:04
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

 

Ah, yes, I see the problem. From the Setting Center type "edit" and toggle the setting for enhanced edit mode. That should definitely fix the problem.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 1:03 PM, David Griffith wrote:

 

Thanks for this but this was not the  setting change I was looking for.

Jaws 2021 will not interact with the text even with Jarte in screenreader mode. So I cannot for example navigate by word, though I can with Jaws 2020 and NVDA.

From memory it might be something to do with turning advance edit mode off or something like that in the Jaws settings.

I will go and have a look.

 

David G.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Goldfield
Sent: 27 November 2020 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

 

Hi. From this page:

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase "enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

Note to JAWS users: Jarte is currently unable to recognize the presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021 compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 


Jasmine Kotsay
 

Just to clarify, does enhance edit mode have to be on or off. I did the same thing, but didn’t get the same results.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 10:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

 

Ah, yes, I see the problem. From the Setting Center type "edit" and toggle the setting for enhanced edit mode. That should definitely fix the problem.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 1:03 PM, David Griffith wrote:

 

Thanks for this but this was not the  setting change I was looking for.

Jaws 2021 will not interact with the text even with Jarte in screenreader mode. So I cannot for example navigate by word, though I can with Jaws 2020 and NVDA.

From memory it might be something to do with turning advance edit mode off or something like that in the Jaws settings.

I will go and have a look.

 

David G.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Goldfield
Sent: 27 November 2020 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

 

Hi. From this page:

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase "enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

Note to JAWS users: Jarte is currently unable to recognize the presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021 compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 


Mario
 

it should be not checked.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jasmine Kotsay [mailto:jasmine.kotsay@gmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, November 27, 2020, 4:23 PM
Subject: Setting for Jarte
Just to clarify, does enhance edit mode have to be on or off. I did the
same thing, but didn’t get the same results.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *David
Goldfield
*Sent:* Friday, November 27, 2020 10:05 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Setting for Jarte

Ah, yes, I see the problem. From the Setting Center type "edit" and
toggle the setting for enhanced edit mode. That should definitely fix
the problem.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019



WWW.DavidGoldfield.org <http://WWW.DavidGoldfield.org>

On 11/27/2020 1:03 PM, David Griffith wrote:

Thanks for this but this was not the  setting change I was looking for.

Jaws 2021 will not interact with the text even with Jarte in
screenreader mode. So I cannot for example navigate by word, though
I can with Jaws 2020 and NVDA.

From memory it might be something to do with turning advance edit
mode off or something like that in the Jaws settings.

I will go and have a look.

David G.

Sent from Mail

<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=04%7C01%7C%7C7d77211e05c7439f686208d892febac4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420970031192866%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=MxpgdwMzBdw3AQTsMZPko7auFMQrvygbPaP1SOSt9TM%3D&reserved=0>
for Windows 10

*From: *David Goldfield <mailto:david.goldfield@outlook.com>
*Sent: *27 November 2020 13:18
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: Setting for Jarte

Hi. From this page:

<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jarte.com%2Fhelp_new%2Fscreen_reader_mode.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C7d77211e05c7439f686208d892febac4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420970031192866%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=qWBJfuZE93P6a7wdOd1m8ND3GbJ8xEB5bJLovBzTvOk%3D&reserved=0>

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can
force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase
"enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting
Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

*Note to JAWS users: *Jarte is currently unable to recognize the
presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you
will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to
force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019



WWW.DavidGoldfield.org <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidgoldfield.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C7d77211e05c7439f686208d892febac4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420970031202860%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=27LWbIWJDPHrd9eIvCUWko2Qmlq8%2FPwPUTgnfHZT%2FtU%3D&reserved=0>

On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make
Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who
helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of
course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten
the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021
compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

Sent from Mail

<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=04%7C01%7C%7C7d77211e05c7439f686208d892febac4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420970031212856%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=9k6D6hLz3l5CrH0xD8d0mm1o6t7qwM1SRMfWLDvMv00%3D&reserved=0>
for Windows 10


Jasmine Kotsay
 

Now, I have another question.
How do I get to the view menu so I can make sure the correct view (e.g., print view) is checked.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 1:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

it should be not checked.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jasmine Kotsay [mailto:jasmine.kotsay@gmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, November 27, 2020, 4:23 PM
Subject: Setting for Jarte
Just to clarify, does enhance edit mode have to be on or off. I did the same thing, but didn’t get the same results.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *David Goldfield
*Sent:* Friday, November 27, 2020 10:05 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Setting for Jarte

Ah, yes, I see the problem. From the Setting Center type "edit" and toggle the setting for enhanced edit mode. That should definitely fix the problem.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019



WWW.DavidGoldfield.org <http://WWW.DavidGoldfield.org>

On 11/27/2020 1:03 PM, David Griffith wrote:

Thanks for this but this was not the setting change I was looking for.

Jaws 2021 will not interact with the text even with Jarte in
screenreader mode. So I cannot for example navigate by word, though
I can with Jaws 2020 and NVDA.

From memory it might be something to do with turning advance edit
mode off or something like that in the Jaws settings.

I will go and have a look.

David G.

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*Sent: *27 November 2020 13:18
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: Setting for Jarte

Hi. From this page:

<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jarte.com%2Fhelp_new%2Fscreen_reader_mode.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C7d77211e05c7439f686208d892febac4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420970031192866%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=qWBJfuZE93P6a7wdOd1m8ND3GbJ8xEB5bJLovBzTvOk%3D&reserved=0>

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can
force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase
"enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting
Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

*Note to JAWS users: *Jarte is currently unable to recognize the
presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you
will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to
force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019



WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
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On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make
Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who
helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of
course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten
the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021
compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

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Korinne Bougher
 

Hello,

I am unable to enable screen reader mode in Jarte by copying it to the clipboard. Is there another way to enable it?

 

Thank you,

Korinne

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 1:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

 

Just to clarify, does enhance edit mode have to be on or off. I did the same thing, but didn’t get the same results.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 10:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

 

Ah, yes, I see the problem. From the Setting Center type "edit" and toggle the setting for enhanced edit mode. That should definitely fix the problem.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 1:03 PM, David Griffith wrote:

 

Thanks for this but this was not the  setting change I was looking for.

Jaws 2021 will not interact with the text even with Jarte in screenreader mode. So I cannot for example navigate by word, though I can with Jaws 2020 and NVDA.

From memory it might be something to do with turning advance edit mode off or something like that in the Jaws settings.

I will go and have a look.

 

David G.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Goldfield
Sent: 27 November 2020 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

 

Hi. From this page:

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase "enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

Note to JAWS users: Jarte is currently unable to recognize the presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021 compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 


David Griffith
 

 

Try quitting Jaws and running NVDA if you have it.  This should force Jarte into Screenreader mode. I hope that this sticks for the next time you use Jarte with Jaws.

David G.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Korinne Bougher
Sent: 27 November 2020 21:49
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

 

Hello,

I am unable to enable screen reader mode in Jarte by copying it to the clipboard. Is there another way to enable it?

 

Thank you,

Korinne

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 1:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

 

Just to clarify, does enhance edit mode have to be on or off. I did the same thing, but didn’t get the same results.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 10:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

 

Ah, yes, I see the problem. From the Setting Center type "edit" and toggle the setting for enhanced edit mode. That should definitely fix the problem.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 1:03 PM, David Griffith wrote:

 

Thanks for this but this was not the  setting change I was looking for.

Jaws 2021 will not interact with the text even with Jarte in screenreader mode. So I cannot for example navigate by word, though I can with Jaws 2020 and NVDA.

From memory it might be something to do with turning advance edit mode off or something like that in the Jaws settings.

I will go and have a look.

 

David G.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Goldfield
Sent: 27 November 2020 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

 

Hi. From this page:

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase "enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

Note to JAWS users: Jarte is currently unable to recognize the presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021 compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 


Mario
 

I don't have a view menu, so I don't know if it is possible or necessary.
hopefully someone else knows how.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jasmine Kotsay [mailto:jasmine.kotsay@gmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, November 27, 2020, 4:41 PM
Subject: Setting for Jarte
Now, I have another question.
How do I get to the view menu so I can make sure the correct view (e.g., print view) is checked.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 1:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

it should be not checked.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jasmine Kotsay [mailto:jasmine.kotsay@gmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, November 27, 2020, 4:23 PM
Subject: Setting for Jarte
Just to clarify, does enhance edit mode have to be on or off. I did the same thing, but didn’t get the same results.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *David Goldfield
*Sent:* Friday, November 27, 2020 10:05 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Setting for Jarte

Ah, yes, I see the problem. From the Setting Center type "edit" and toggle the setting for enhanced edit mode. That should definitely fix the problem.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019



WWW.DavidGoldfield.org <http://WWW.DavidGoldfield.org>

On 11/27/2020 1:03 PM, David Griffith wrote:

Thanks for this but this was not the setting change I was looking for.

Jaws 2021 will not interact with the text even with Jarte in
screenreader mode. So I cannot for example navigate by word, though
I can with Jaws 2020 and NVDA.

From memory it might be something to do with turning advance edit
mode off or something like that in the Jaws settings.

I will go and have a look.

David G.

Sent from Mail

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*From: *David Goldfield <mailto:david.goldfield@outlook.com>
*Sent: *27 November 2020 13:18
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: Setting for Jarte

Hi. From this page:

<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jarte.com%2Fhelp_new%2Fscreen_reader_mode.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C7d77211e05c7439f686208d892febac4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420970031192866%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=qWBJfuZE93P6a7wdOd1m8ND3GbJ8xEB5bJLovBzTvOk%3D&reserved=0>

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can
force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase
"enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting
Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

*Note to JAWS users: *Jarte is currently unable to recognize the
presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you
will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to
force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019



WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
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On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make
Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who
helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of
course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten
the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021
compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

Sent from Mail

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