moderated What is a not well known but great JAWS commands


Mark
 

Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?


Leo
 

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow



Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:

Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?


David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Leo, thanks so much for this tip as I also didn't know that this particular key opens the skim reading dialog. Once you have your rule set you can also press control-insert-down arrow to immediately begin skim reading. When Eric Damery first demonstrated the feature he had a great way to memorize the hotkey as he said to think of it as a controlled say all.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 6:08 AM, Leo wrote:

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow



Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:
Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?


David Diamond
 

When wanting to skim read a document or email post, I myself just use the JAWS key and down arrow.  I like to keep things simple rather then cross my hands, then holding up a finger to do something. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: November 27, 2020 3:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

 

Leo, thanks so much for this tip as I also didn't know that this particular key opens the skim reading dialog. Once you have your rule set you can also press control-insert-down arrow to immediately begin skim reading. When Eric Damery first demonstrated the feature he had a great way to memorize the hotkey as he said to think of it as a controlled say all.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 6:08 AM, Leo wrote:

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow

 

 

Leo
 
“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,

On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:

Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?

 


David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Hi. The problem is that the JAWS key with down arrow is just a standard say all and doesn't do a true skim read. However, you can use Keyboard Manager to add your custom keystroke for either the skim read command or for the skim read dialog. The quickest way to enter Keyboard Manager is to press the JAWS key with the number 8 on the row of numbers, not the number 8 on the numeric keypad.
Once you're in the Keyboard Manager, press shift-control-D to open the default configuration.
Next, in the list of keys type st and look for the Start Skim Read hotkey. Pressing control-a allows you to add the keystroke to another key without removing it from its current hotkey.
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 6:50 AM, David Diamond wrote:

When wanting to skim read a document or email post, I myself just use the JAWS key and down arrow.  I like to keep things simple rather then cross my hands, then holding up a finger to do something. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: November 27, 2020 3:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

 

Leo, thanks so much for this tip as I also didn't know that this particular key opens the skim reading dialog. Once you have your rule set you can also press control-insert-down arrow to immediately begin skim reading. When Eric Damery first demonstrated the feature he had a great way to memorize the hotkey as he said to think of it as a controlled say all.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 6:08 AM, Leo wrote:

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow

 

 

Leo
 
“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,

On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:

Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?

 



Leo
 

well, that's a very good mnemonic device!

Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/27/2020 5:26 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Leo, thanks so much for this tip as I also didn't know that this particular key opens the skim reading dialog. Once you have your rule set you can also press control-insert-down arrow to immediately begin skim reading. When Eric Damery first demonstrated the feature he had a great way to memorize the hotkey as he said to think of it as a controlled say all.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 6:08 AM, Leo wrote:

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow



Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:
Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?


Steve Matzura
 

Good tag. Are you Buddhist by chance? ;-)


On 11/27/2020 7:50 AM, Leo wrote:

well, that's a very good mnemonic device!

Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/27/2020 5:26 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
Leo, thanks so much for this tip as I also didn't know that this particular key opens the skim reading dialog. Once you have your rule set you can also press control-insert-down arrow to immediately begin skim reading. When Eric Damery first demonstrated the feature he had a great way to memorize the hotkey as he said to think of it as a controlled say all.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 6:08 AM, Leo wrote:

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow



Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:
Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?


Ashleigh Piccinino
 

You could always use your friend, "Sharky!" to know the command. Just another way JAWS is working for yin the latest full upgrade. 


On Nov 27, 2020, at 5:09 AM, Leo <literophilus@...> wrote:



hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow



Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:
Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?


Leo
 

I{m still in Jaws 2020, but I will upgrade soon...

Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/27/2020 9:51 AM, Ashleigh Piccinino wrote:

You could always use your friend, "Sharky!" to know the command. Just another way JAWS is working for yin the latest full upgrade. 


On Nov 27, 2020, at 5:09 AM, Leo <literophilus@...> wrote:



hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow



Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:
Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?


Leo
 

No, I{m not Buddhist, I just like that particular Japanese author...  but the guy has been influenced by Buddhism as expected from any other person from that culture.

Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/27/2020 7:25 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:

Good tag. Are you Buddhist by chance? ;-)


On 11/27/2020 7:50 AM, Leo wrote:

well, that's a very good mnemonic device!

Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/27/2020 5:26 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
Leo, thanks so much for this tip as I also didn't know that this particular key opens the skim reading dialog. Once you have your rule set you can also press control-insert-down arrow to immediately begin skim reading. When Eric Damery first demonstrated the feature he had a great way to memorize the hotkey as he said to think of it as a controlled say all.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 6:08 AM, Leo wrote:

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow



Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:
Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?


David Kingsbury
 

Hi all,

 

Actually, I have never used the JAWS skim read because it reads either the first full sentence of every paragraph or first full line. I want to read just enough of a paragraph to get a sense of it and then move on. That does not always require reading a full sentence or line. Just the first four or five words might be enough. And if speed is the objective, and it is with skim reading, I don’t need to hear any more than what I need to hear. So you can do this in a couple of very quick and easy ways. First, hold down Control and keep it held down. Then press down arrow just enough to hear what you want to hear at the beginning of a paragraph, then hit down arrow again, and so on.

 

Or you can put JAWS in Quick keys mode with Insert Z and then just press P to jump to the next paragraph, P again and so on. Much more efficient than JAWS skim read.

 

David


Adrian Spratt
 

David,

 

To add to your idea, you can press control-down arrow instead of p. It saves you from having to go in and out of JAWS quick settings.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

 

Hi all,

 

Actually, I have never used the JAWS skim read because it reads either the first full sentence of every paragraph or first full line. I want to read just enough of a paragraph to get a sense of it and then move on. That does not always require reading a full sentence or line. Just the first four or five words might be enough. And if speed is the objective, and it is with skim reading, I don’t need to hear any more than what I need to hear. So you can do this in a couple of very quick and easy ways. First, hold down Control and keep it held down. Then press down arrow just enough to hear what you want to hear at the beginning of a paragraph, then hit down arrow again, and so on.

 

Or you can put JAWS in Quick keys mode with Insert Z and then just press P to jump to the next paragraph, P again and so on. Much more efficient than JAWS skim read.

 

David


Leo
 

well, that's why I call a good screen reader, more than one single way to do the same although it may represent, to some degree,   a unique way to help some users to skim  a text quickly but with full meaningful sentences. You may forget this, but not only native English speaking users  require a screen reader, and for EFL and ESL students, this feature represents a valuable tool. Of course, as a native Spanish speaker, I do what you guys do when I go through a text, in Spanish but, try it on a language different than yours and we talk later!


Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/27/2020 4:10 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

David,

 

To add to your idea, you can press control-down arrow instead of p. It saves you from having to go in and out of JAWS quick settings.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

 

Hi all,

 

Actually, I have never used the JAWS skim read because it reads either the first full sentence of every paragraph or first full line. I want to read just enough of a paragraph to get a sense of it and then move on. That does not always require reading a full sentence or line. Just the first four or five words might be enough. And if speed is the objective, and it is with skim reading, I don’t need to hear any more than what I need to hear. So you can do this in a couple of very quick and easy ways. First, hold down Control and keep it held down. Then press down arrow just enough to hear what you want to hear at the beginning of a paragraph, then hit down arrow again, and so on.

 

Or you can put JAWS in Quick keys mode with Insert Z and then just press P to jump to the next paragraph, P again and so on. Much more efficient than JAWS skim read.

 

David


David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

I'm actually someone who has been using Paragraph navigation on the Web for many years and I find it to be a very efficient way to read. Reading a line of text can be a bit fragmented and I tend to want to hear a bit more than reading just one whole sentence at a time, which can be done by pressing alt up arrow for previous sentence or alt down arrow to read the next sentence. Reading a paragraph is, for me, perfect as I can hear what usually amounts to a few sentences at a time, not too little but also not too overwhelming. For lists of information you'll usually hear one whole list item, although you can press I to move to the next list item, as well. I'm so used to holding down the control key and regularly pressing down arrow to read that it's become second nature for me on many Web sites containing large blocks of text.



David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 3:35 PM, David Kingsbury wrote:

Hi all,

 

Actually, I have never used the JAWS skim read because it reads either the first full sentence of every paragraph or first full line. I want to read just enough of a paragraph to get a sense of it and then move on. That does not always require reading a full sentence or line. Just the first four or five words might be enough. And if speed is the objective, and it is with skim reading, I don’t need to hear any more than what I need to hear. So you can do this in a couple of very quick and easy ways. First, hold down Control and keep it held down. Then press down arrow just enough to hear what you want to hear at the beginning of a paragraph, then hit down arrow again, and so on.

 

Or you can put JAWS in Quick keys mode with Insert Z and then just press P to jump to the next paragraph, P again and so on. Much more efficient than JAWS skim read.

 

David