moderated new to jaws after 10 years using a mac


Stephanie
 

 Hello all,

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

Thank you so much for your help.

Steph  


Richard Turner
 

I can answer the mute question.

Press insert+space, then s.

That puts it into Speech On Demand.  So, if you issue a reading command, it will read, otherwise it will stay silent.

That is a toggle, so do insert+space and then s again to go back to full speech.

 

I believe there are focus commands to navigate the computer, but you would need to get the Jaws documentation on using the Focus, and I do not know if that is in BRF anywhere.

You may want to call them.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

Live long and prosper 🖖

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

 Hello all,

 

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

 

Thank you so much for your help.

 

Steph  


Cohn, Jonathan
 

Hello,
For documentation, the information in the FS Reader is quite helpful, these are daisy books with both text an speech, so you can review them either way. 
Yes, you can use any command using just a perkins keyboard, and I believe there are several additional functions keys on the Focus that can make it even easier.
Space with dot 8 and a set of other keys act like a prefix to the following keystroke.
Dot1: WIndows Key
dot2: Option Key
Dot 3: Control key
dot 4: FN (as in F4)
Dot 5: JAWS key 

So if you type space with dots 4 and 5 followed by “D (THe letter, Mac is saying I put 500 there) ” JAWs will act as if you pressed jaws key and F4, and will exit.
For having JAWS only occasionally speak, you want to turn on Speech on demand. You should be able to find this in the JAWS setting center.
To open JAWS Setting center, press the JAWS key and the number 6.
THen move to the default configuration, with control-shift-D. 
 You should be on a search field at this point, go ahead and search for smart and then change as you see fit.


HTH!
Jonathan Cohn




On Nov 5, 2020, at 6:01 AM, Stephanie <naturelovingmom@...> wrote:

 Hello all,

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

Thank you so much for your help.

Steph  


Dave Durber
 

Stephani:
 
I can answer 1 of your questions. To mute JAWS, press INSERT/JAWS KEY+SPACE BAR, then press the letter S. To unmute JAWS, use the same command sequence.
 
Dave Durber
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 11:01 AM
Subject: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 Hello all,

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

Thank you so much for your help.

Steph  


Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi again, Stephanie. One thing you might consider is this, you can customize Windows so that it doesn't load some programs that you know you won't use when Windows starts. You can change this behavior in the following way,

 

1. Go to Settings by using Windows key plus I.

2. Right Arrow to Apps & features, and press ENTER.

3. TAB once, then Arrow down to Startup, and press ENTER.

4. Here you can choose which programs load when Windows starts. Some programs such as some of the games, I tell Windows to not load when Windows starts.

 

You can also choose which apps to allow to run in the background.

 

1. Go to Settings with Windows key plus I.

2. TAB once, Arrow down to Privacy and press ENTER.

3.  Arrow down to Background Apps and press ENTER.

4. Choose which apps you want to allow to run in the background.

 

Some of the apps I have chosen to not allow to run in the background are,

 

3D Builder ‑

3D Viewer ‑

Candy Crush Soda Saga ‑

Groove Music ‑

Microsoft Solitaire Collection  

Minecraft  

Paradise Bay  

 

Depending upon your personal interests, you may choose to allow some of these programs to run in the background, and you might wish to disable others. These are only my personal preferences.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

 Hello all,

 

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

 

Thank you so much for your help.

 

Steph  


Jasmine Kotsay
 

Hi,
There is also a way to change the setting so that instead of doing speech on demand when you press insert plus , then S. You have to go into the jaws settings and find speech options, and there is a setting there to be able to mute the speech for all apps when insert plus space is pressed.

On Nov 5, 2020, at 7:10 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:



I can answer the mute question.

Press insert+space, then s.

That puts it into Speech On Demand.  So, if you issue a reading command, it will read, otherwise it will stay silent.

That is a toggle, so do insert+space and then s again to go back to full speech.

 

I believe there are focus commands to navigate the computer, but you would need to get the Jaws documentation on using the Focus, and I do not know if that is in BRF anywhere.

You may want to call them.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

Live long and prosper 🖖

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

 Hello all,

 

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

 

Thank you so much for your help.

 

Steph  


David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

>>there is a setting there to be able to mute the speech for all apps


That's right. You'll find it in Settings Center under Speech options. You'll hear "less speech options" and it will probably say "speech on demand." Typing the word "less" without the quotes in the search edit field will find this keystroke. Press the space key to set this to "speech mute." You should probably first press shift-ctrl-D after going into Settings Center if you want this keystroke to behave the same way in all applications.

As an aside you can go into Keyboard Manager and add an alternative keystroke if you want. I did this and chose shift-alt-M as my Mute/Unmute toggle. Again, make sure you're in the list of default keystrokes if you want this shortcut key to be available in all applications.



David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
www.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/5/2020 2:06 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

Hi,
There is also a way to change the setting so that instead of doing speech on demand when you press insert plus , then S. You have to go into the jaws settings and find speech options, and there is a setting there to be able to mute the speech for all apps when insert plus space is pressed.

On Nov 5, 2020, at 7:10 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:



I can answer the mute question.

Press insert+space, then s.

That puts it into Speech On Demand.  So, if you issue a reading command, it will read, otherwise it will stay silent.

That is a toggle, so do insert+space and then s again to go back to full speech.

 

I believe there are focus commands to navigate the computer, but you would need to get the Jaws documentation on using the Focus, and I do not know if that is in BRF anywhere.

You may want to call them.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

Live long and prosper 🖖

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

 Hello all,

 

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

 

Thank you so much for your help.

 

Steph  


David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Stephanie,

Are you familiar with the JAWS help system? It is incredibly comprehensive.

Press insert-J to open the JAWS window.

Press f1 to access the help system.

You will be in a list of what are known as books and topics.

Think of a topic as a chapter within a book.

Pressing enter will toggle a book from being opened or closed. A book must be opened in order to see the list of topics which are contained within that book.

Alternatively, when you are pointing to a book pressing right arrow opens the book and pressing left arrow closes it.

When you choose a topic that you want to open press enter.

Once you press enter your focus will still be in the list of books and topics. Press the F6 key to move to the topic that you opened. Topics will contain headings and, in most cases, links, just as though you were reading a Web page. Standard reading commands can be used to read each topic.


When you want to return to the list of books and topics press the F6 key again.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
www.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/5/2020 6:01 AM, Stephanie wrote:
 Hello all,

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

Thank you so much for your help.

Steph  
-->


Stephanie
 

 I got it here in Australia. it cost about $4500 Australian. It's a 40 cell display with a braille keyboard.  I'm still working out how to use it so cant tell you anything else at this point. 

Steph  

On 6 Nov 2020, at 2:10 am, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:



I can answer the mute question.

Press insert+space, then s.

That puts it into Speech On Demand.  So, if you issue a reading command, it will read, otherwise it will stay silent.

That is a toggle, so do insert+space and then s again to go back to full speech.

 

I believe there are focus commands to navigate the computer, but you would need to get the Jaws documentation on using the Focus, and I do not know if that is in BRF anywhere.

You may want to call them.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

Live long and prosper 🖖

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

 Hello all,

 

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

 

Thank you so much for your help.

 

Steph  


Stephanie
 

 Thank you so much. I will be using braille primarly rather than speech, so will need those braille comands. I'm using a focus display. Where do I find the html documents you speak of? [Still having trouble browsing the web the ms shge] 

The reason I have returned to windows is that I'm studying a music degree, and will use software that the mac will not support. Also, I figured that getting a job etc one day, most will use windows. So decided to return to windows. 

Steph   

On 6 Nov 2020, at 2:37 am, Dave Durber <d.durber@...> wrote:


Stephani:
 
I can answer 1 of your questions. To mute JAWS, press INSERT/JAWS KEY+SPACE BAR, then press the letter S. To unmute JAWS, use the same command sequence.
 
Dave Durber
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 11:01 AM
Subject: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 Hello all,

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

Thank you so much for your help.

Steph  


Stephanie
 

Thank you all for your most helpful advice! 

Steph 

On 6 Nov 2020, at 10:05 am, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:



Stephanie,

Are you familiar with the JAWS help system? It is incredibly comprehensive.

Press insert-J to open the JAWS window.

Press f1 to access the help system.

You will be in a list of what are known as books and topics.

Think of a topic as a chapter within a book.

Pressing enter will toggle a book from being opened or closed. A book must be opened in order to see the list of topics which are contained within that book.

Alternatively, when you are pointing to a book pressing right arrow opens the book and pressing left arrow closes it.

When you choose a topic that you want to open press enter.

Once you press enter your focus will still be in the list of books and topics. Press the F6 key to move to the topic that you opened. Topics will contain headings and, in most cases, links, just as though you were reading a Web page. Standard reading commands can be used to read each topic.


When you want to return to the list of books and topics press the F6 key again.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
www.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/5/2020 6:01 AM, Stephanie wrote:
 Hello all,

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

Thank you so much for your help.

Steph  
-->


Ashleigh Piccinino
 

If you’re wanting documentation on how to use the Focus series of Bluetooth Braille displays, I think you can find it on the FS website. I lost my copy, or I’d give it to you. I’ll find another though, probably from Freedom Scientific.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

 Thank you so much. I will be using braille primarly rather than speech, so will need those braille comands. I'm using a focus display. Where do I find the html documents you speak of? [Still having trouble browsing the web the ms shge] 

 

The reason I have returned to windows is that I'm studying a music degree, and will use software that the mac will not support. Also, I figured that getting a job etc one day, most will use windows. So decided to return to windows. 

 

Steph   



On 6 Nov 2020, at 2:37 am, Dave Durber <d.durber@...> wrote:



Stephani:

 

I can answer 1 of your questions. To mute JAWS, press INSERT/JAWS KEY+SPACE BAR, then press the letter S. To unmute JAWS, use the same command sequence.

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Stephanie

Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 11:01 AM

Subject: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

 Hello all,

 

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

 

Thank you so much for your help.

 

Steph  

 


Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Finally found my copy of this guide. It also has how to use the Focus 40 with an iPhone.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

 I got it here in Australia. it cost about $4500 Australian. It's a 40 cell display with a braille keyboard.  I'm still working out how to use it so cant tell you anything else at this point. 

 

Steph  



On 6 Nov 2020, at 2:10 am, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:



I can answer the mute question.

Press insert+space, then s.

That puts it into Speech On Demand.  So, if you issue a reading command, it will read, otherwise it will stay silent.

That is a toggle, so do insert+space and then s again to go back to full speech.

 

I believe there are focus commands to navigate the computer, but you would need to get the Jaws documentation on using the Focus, and I do not know if that is in BRF anywhere.

You may want to call them.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

Live long and prosper 🖖

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

 Hello all,

 

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

 

Thank you so much for your help.

 

Steph  

 


Stephanie
 

How do I access it please? 

Steph 

On 6 Nov 2020, at 12:15 pm, Ashleigh Piccinino <apiccinino@...> wrote:



Finally found my copy of this guide. It also has how to use the Focus 40 with an iPhone.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

 I got it here in Australia. it cost about $4500 Australian. It's a 40 cell display with a braille keyboard.  I'm still working out how to use it so cant tell you anything else at this point. 

 

Steph  



On 6 Nov 2020, at 2:10 am, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:



I can answer the mute question.

Press insert+space, then s.

That puts it into Speech On Demand.  So, if you issue a reading command, it will read, otherwise it will stay silent.

That is a toggle, so do insert+space and then s again to go back to full speech.

 

I believe there are focus commands to navigate the computer, but you would need to get the Jaws documentation on using the Focus, and I do not know if that is in BRF anywhere.

You may want to call them.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

Live long and prosper 🖖

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

 Hello all,

 

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

 

Thank you so much for your help.

 

Steph  

 


Ashleigh Piccinino
 

It is sent as an attachment, so go to the message before this, and open the attachment. If you’d like, you can e-mail me privately at apiccinino@.... Then, I’ll send the file again so you’re sure to get it. I’m not sure if the group can receive attachments, so it’s probably blocked. You can probably still find it in the Focus Braille display documentation on Freedom Scientific’s website.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

How do I access it please? 

 

Steph 



On 6 Nov 2020, at 12:15 pm, Ashleigh Piccinino <apiccinino@...> wrote:



Finally found my copy of this guide. It also has how to use the Focus 40 with an iPhone.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

 I got it here in Australia. it cost about $4500 Australian. It's a 40 cell display with a braille keyboard.  I'm still working out how to use it so cant tell you anything else at this point. 

 

Steph  




On 6 Nov 2020, at 2:10 am, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:



I can answer the mute question.

Press insert+space, then s.

That puts it into Speech On Demand.  So, if you issue a reading command, it will read, otherwise it will stay silent.

That is a toggle, so do insert+space and then s again to go back to full speech.

 

I believe there are focus commands to navigate the computer, but you would need to get the Jaws documentation on using the Focus, and I do not know if that is in BRF anywhere.

You may want to call them.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

Live long and prosper 🖖

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

 Hello all,

 

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

 

Thank you so much for your help.

 

Steph  

 

 


Mike B
 


Hi Ashleigh,
 
This list doesn't allow attachments, so your attachment was stripped at the Groups.io server.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

It is sent as an attachment, so go to the message before this, and open the attachment. If you’d like, you can e-mail me privately at apiccinino@.... Then, I’ll send the file again so you’re sure to get it. I’m not sure if the group can receive attachments, so it’s probably blocked. You can probably still find it in the Focus Braille display documentation on Freedom Scientific’s website.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

How do I access it please? 

 

Steph 



On 6 Nov 2020, at 12:15 pm, Ashleigh Piccinino <apiccinino@...> wrote:



Finally found my copy of this guide. It also has how to use the Focus 40 with an iPhone.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

 I got it here in Australia. it cost about $4500 Australian. It's a 40 cell display with a braille keyboard.  I'm still working out how to use it so cant tell you anything else at this point. 

 

Steph  




On 6 Nov 2020, at 2:10 am, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:



I can answer the mute question.

Press insert+space, then s.

That puts it into Speech On Demand.  So, if you issue a reading command, it will read, otherwise it will stay silent.

That is a toggle, so do insert+space and then s again to go back to full speech.

 

I believe there are focus commands to navigate the computer, but you would need to get the Jaws documentation on using the Focus, and I do not know if that is in BRF anywhere.

You may want to call them.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

Live long and prosper 🖖

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

 Hello all,

 

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

 

Thank you so much for your help.

 

Steph  

 

 


renette bloem
 

Good Day

 

Maybe it was mentioned earlier, but why the decision toe switch from Mac back to JAWS?

 

Renette

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephanie
Sent: Friday, 06 November 2020 01:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

Thank you all for your most helpful advice! 

 

Steph 



On 6 Nov 2020, at 10:05 am, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:



Stephanie,

Are you familiar with the JAWS help system? It is incredibly comprehensive.

Press insert-J to open the JAWS window.

Press f1 to access the help system.

You will be in a list of what are known as books and topics.

Think of a topic as a chapter within a book.

Pressing enter will toggle a book from being opened or closed. A book must be opened in order to see the list of topics which are contained within that book.

Alternatively, when you are pointing to a book pressing right arrow opens the book and pressing left arrow closes it.

When you choose a topic that you want to open press enter.

Once you press enter your focus will still be in the list of books and topics. Press the F6 key to move to the topic that you opened. Topics will contain headings and, in most cases, links, just as though you were reading a Web page. Standard reading commands can be used to read each topic.

 

When you want to return to the list of books and topics press the F6 key again.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
www.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/5/2020 6:01 AM, Stephanie wrote:

 Hello all,

 

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

 

Thank you so much for your help.

 

Steph  

-->


Stephanie
 

 I'm studying a music degree, and for that, I need to use software that does not work with a mac [braille music editor] I also feel it more useful down the line when I start working. 

Steph  

On 6 Nov 2020, at 8:11 pm, renette bloem <renette@...> wrote:



Good Day

 

Maybe it was mentioned earlier, but why the decision toe switch from Mac back to JAWS?

 

Renette

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephanie
Sent: Friday, 06 November 2020 01:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

Thank you all for your most helpful advice! 

 

Steph 



On 6 Nov 2020, at 10:05 am, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:



Stephanie,

Are you familiar with the JAWS help system? It is incredibly comprehensive.

Press insert-J to open the JAWS window.

Press f1 to access the help system.

You will be in a list of what are known as books and topics.

Think of a topic as a chapter within a book.

Pressing enter will toggle a book from being opened or closed. A book must be opened in order to see the list of topics which are contained within that book.

Alternatively, when you are pointing to a book pressing right arrow opens the book and pressing left arrow closes it.

When you choose a topic that you want to open press enter.

Once you press enter your focus will still be in the list of books and topics. Press the F6 key to move to the topic that you opened. Topics will contain headings and, in most cases, links, just as though you were reading a Web page. Standard reading commands can be used to read each topic.

 

When you want to return to the list of books and topics press the F6 key again.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
www.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/5/2020 6:01 AM, Stephanie wrote:

 Hello all,

 

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

 

Thank you so much for your help.

 

Steph  

-->


David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Steph,
I'm very interested in hearing your experiences on Windows accessibility from the perspective of a long-time Mac user. This particular list may not be the most appropriate place to have that conversation but if you ever decide to document your experiences, including what you see as pros and cons regarding the accessibility of both operating systems, I hope that you might consider letting us know. I've been using Windows with screen readers since 1992 and I've used a Mac off and on for a period of four years. It's my opinion that using Windows with JAWS, particularly with Office, is the best accessibility experience I have ever had but your viewpoint may be very different considering how well you probably know the Mac. I don't intend to start a Mac vs PC discussion on a list intended to provide JAWS support but, again, please do let us know if you should decide to chronicle your journey, such as on a blog.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/6/2020 4:33 AM, Stephanie wrote:

 I'm studying a music degree, and for that, I need to use software that does not work with a mac [braille music editor] I also feel it more useful down the line when I start working. 

Steph  

On 6 Nov 2020, at 8:11 pm, renette bloem <renette@...> wrote:



Good Day

 

Maybe it was mentioned earlier, but why the decision toe switch from Mac back to JAWS?

 

Renette

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephanie
Sent: Friday, 06 November 2020 01:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

Thank you all for your most helpful advice! 

 

Steph 



On 6 Nov 2020, at 10:05 am, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:



Stephanie,

Are you familiar with the JAWS help system? It is incredibly comprehensive.

Press insert-J to open the JAWS window.

Press f1 to access the help system.

You will be in a list of what are known as books and topics.

Think of a topic as a chapter within a book.

Pressing enter will toggle a book from being opened or closed. A book must be opened in order to see the list of topics which are contained within that book.

Alternatively, when you are pointing to a book pressing right arrow opens the book and pressing left arrow closes it.

When you choose a topic that you want to open press enter.

Once you press enter your focus will still be in the list of books and topics. Press the F6 key to move to the topic that you opened. Topics will contain headings and, in most cases, links, just as though you were reading a Web page. Standard reading commands can be used to read each topic.

 

When you want to return to the list of books and topics press the F6 key again.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
www.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/5/2020 6:01 AM, Stephanie wrote:

 Hello all,

 

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

 

Thank you so much for your help.

 

Steph  

-->



Jason White
 

As you note, this isn't the right forum for discussing comparisons. I have two laptops on my desk: one is a MacBook Pro 2013 running Mac OS, and the other is a Lenovo P51 that dual boots Linux and Windows 10. The brief answer is that they all have their accessibility advantages and drawbacks, and I find myself switching between them as appropriate. They all have room for improvement.

A more detailed answer would be off-topic for the list. It very much depends on what you need to do, and which applications you prefer.

On 11/8/20 12:42 PM, David Goldfield wrote:
Steph,
I'm very interested in hearing your experiences on Windows accessibility from the perspective of a long-time Mac user. This particular list may not be the most appropriate place to have that conversation but if you ever decide to document your experiences, including what you see as pros and cons regarding the accessibility of both operating systems, I hope that you might consider letting us know. I've been using Windows with screen readers since 1992 and I've used a Mac off and on for a period of four years. It's my opinion that using Windows with JAWS, particularly with Office, is the best accessibility experience I have ever had but your viewpoint may be very different considering how well you probably know the Mac. I don't intend to start a Mac vs PC discussion on a list intended to provide JAWS support but, again, please do let us know if you should decide to chronicle your journey, such as on a blog.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/6/2020 4:33 AM, Stephanie wrote:
 I'm studying a music degree, and for that, I need to use software that does not work with a mac [braille music editor] I also feel it more useful down the line when I start working. 

Steph  

On 6 Nov 2020, at 8:11 pm, renette bloem <renette@...> wrote:



Good Day

 

Maybe it was mentioned earlier, but why the decision toe switch from Mac back to JAWS?

 

Renette

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephanie
Sent: Friday, 06 November 2020 01:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

Thank you all for your most helpful advice! 

 

Steph 



On 6 Nov 2020, at 10:05 am, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:



Stephanie,

Are you familiar with the JAWS help system? It is incredibly comprehensive.

Press insert-J to open the JAWS window.

Press f1 to access the help system.

You will be in a list of what are known as books and topics.

Think of a topic as a chapter within a book.

Pressing enter will toggle a book from being opened or closed. A book must be opened in order to see the list of topics which are contained within that book.

Alternatively, when you are pointing to a book pressing right arrow opens the book and pressing left arrow closes it.

When you choose a topic that you want to open press enter.

Once you press enter your focus will still be in the list of books and topics. Press the F6 key to move to the topic that you opened. Topics will contain headings and, in most cases, links, just as though you were reading a Web page. Standard reading commands can be used to read each topic.

 

When you want to return to the list of books and topics press the F6 key again.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
www.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/5/2020 6:01 AM, Stephanie wrote:

 Hello all,

 

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

 

Thank you so much for your help.

 

Steph  

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