moderated Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?


Ron Kolesar
 

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From
Ron Kolesar
Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station
And
Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG
Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well


Jessica D <jldail13@...>
 

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well


David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

You could press insert-V for the JAWS options dialog, type "focus" without the quotes and ensure that focus loss announcement is not checked. As Jessica asked giving us more info might help.
Are you using the latest build of JAWS 2020 from August?
What version of Windows are you using?
If Windows 10 which build or version of Win10? You could type "winver" in the run dialog to get this information.
Does this happen in a particular program?

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 10/6/2020 9:19 AM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well












Ann Byrne
 

I have more focus issues with 2021 also. We should both make bug reports so they know they need to fix it!

At 08:01 AM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From
Ron Kolesar
Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station
And
Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG
Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well





Richard Turner
 

That item is unchecked for me, but I still get the announcement at times using Jaws 2021 beta.

I'm not sure it is a bug to be told Jaws is lost, that is a good feature; However, the fact that Jaws loses focus as much as it does is a bug in my opinion.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 6:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

You could press insert-V for the JAWS options dialog, type "focus"
without the quotes and ensure that focus loss announcement is not checked. As Jessica asked giving us more info might help.
Are you using the latest build of JAWS 2020 from August?
What version of Windows are you using?
If Windows 10 which build or version of Win10? You could type "winver"
in the run dialog to get this information.
Does this happen in a particular program?

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidgoldfield.org%2F&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd8c5b7cdd6964ef0c5d308d869fba73c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637375876839674603&amp;sdata=yNuRGU0HipVqAXrgMcEQXDNmnpteVRFxHf%2FQ9%2FrEwsI%3D&amp;reserved=0

On 10/6/2020 9:19 AM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and
NIMS Certified as well













Dan Longmore
 

Yes, seems to be worse in 2021 beta although I will wait til final release
before making an actual comparison. This has been a JAWS issue for some
versions now.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

I have more focus issues with 2021 also. We should both make bug reports so
they know they need to fix it!
At 08:01 AM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and
or Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS
Certified as well





Jessica D <jldail13@...>
 

Hello,

I've never seen jaws do this in more recent versions, including the August
update of 2020, which is currently ruoning on my elBraille, as I type.

I believe this issue hasn't occurred since jaws 16.

Thanks,

Jessica

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Yes, seems to be worse in 2021 beta although I will wait til final release
before making an actual comparison. This has been a JAWS issue for some
versions now.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

I have more focus issues with 2021 also. We should both make bug reports so
they know they need to fix it!
At 08:01 AM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and
or Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS
Certified as well





Dan Longmore
 

Jessica,
I am glad you are not experiencing this issue. For those of us who do it
remains quite annoying . 2020 version was better than 2019 but so far with
the beta we have gone backwards. Running latest versions of JAWS and
Windows.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hello,

I've never seen jaws do this in more recent versions, including the August
update of 2020, which is currently ruoning on my elBraille, as I type.

I believe this issue hasn't occurred since jaws 16.

Thanks,

Jessica

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Yes, seems to be worse in 2021 beta although I will wait til final release
before making an actual comparison. This has been a JAWS issue for some
versions now.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

I have more focus issues with 2021 also. We should both make bug reports so
they know they need to fix it!
At 08:01 AM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and
or Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS
Certified as well





Adrian Spratt
 

You make a good distinction. The problem isn't the notification, but the fact that it might be necessary.

In my case, I don't get it often, and usually I can recognize something I did to cause it, such as trying to accomplish too much too fast.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

That item is unchecked for me, but I still get the announcement at times using Jaws 2021 beta.

I'm not sure it is a bug to be told Jaws is lost, that is a good feature; However, the fact that Jaws loses focus as much as it does is a bug in my opinion.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 6:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

You could press insert-V for the JAWS options dialog, type "focus"
without the quotes and ensure that focus loss announcement is not checked. As Jessica asked giving us more info might help.
Are you using the latest build of JAWS 2020 from August?
What version of Windows are you using?
If Windows 10 which build or version of Win10? You could type "winver"
in the run dialog to get this information.
Does this happen in a particular program?

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidgoldfield.org%2F&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd8c5b7cdd6964ef0c5d308d869fba73c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637375876839674603&amp;sdata=yNuRGU0HipVqAXrgMcEQXDNmnpteVRFxHf%2FQ9%2FrEwsI%3D&amp;reserved=0

On 10/6/2020 9:19 AM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and
NIMS Certified as well













Hank William Merchant
 

Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user,
Hank

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well


Jessica D <jldail13@...>
 

Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using jaws2020 with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica

On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant <hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user,
Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well

















Mike B.
 

I run a little program that automatically maximizes whatever screen / window that comes into focus and since I installed this little goodie I haven't had this focus loss problem.  Stascom info below:
 
 
For more detailed information, here is the link to the Stascom page of the website.
 
 
Download Link:
 
Hotkeys:
Control+1, Contact manager
Control+2, Reminder Manager
Control+3, Windows Applications and settings
Control+4, Password Generator
Control+5, Word Count for Selected Text
Control+6, Day of the Week
Control+7, Configuration manager
Control+8, Exclude Window Title from maximizing
Control+9, Generate Configuration report
control+\, Program Dashboard
Control+Windows+Up or Down arrow, adjust computer volume.
 
Just a final note.
This little program has many great features, and it works with any screen reader.
Even though I do like the reminders, password generator, and other features, my favorites are:
*  Maximizing Windows:  I like the fact that all of my program windows will automatically be maximized.  This helps from any basic problems with my screen
reader.
* Muting Volume is disabled with minimum volume being required.  Many times I accidently hit the mute key on my function key row muting my volume and would
always forget which key it was exactly.  Now with this feature, I do not have to worry about this ever happening!
*  Control System Volume on the fly.  Being able to turn up or down the system volume with a hotkey is so convenient and makes adjusting the system volume
quick and easy.
*  Reporting Battery Status.  Since I use a laptop, letting me know what my battery status is on a regular basis helps alert me when I should plug in my
laptop to charge.
* Time Announcement.  I have mine set to announce every 15 minutes.  This just helps me keep up with the time and helps keep me on task.
 
Of coarse, keep in mind that you can turn off any of the features within the configuration manager.
 
Enjoy,
 
 
Take care and stay safe.  Mike.
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2020 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Yes, seems to be worse in 2021 beta although I will wait til final release
before making an actual comparison.  This has been a JAWS issue for some
versions now. 

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

I have more focus issues with 2021 also.  We should both make bug reports so
they know they need to fix it!
At 08:01 AM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
>To my fellow subscribers.
>Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
>I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
>Many thanks.
>Ron
>
>In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and
>or Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
>Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham
>Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS
>Certified as well
>
>
>
>
>












Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

So you never hear "Jaws has lost focus. Press alt plus tab"? Is announce lost focus turned off in settings? I have been using Jaws for over 25 years on dozens of systems and it has always happened more than it should. It got better for wile then came back and will get better again.

To be fair though it is most likely Windows pulling Jaws focus to some temporary notification or something like that.

On 10/6/2020 12:55 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using jaws2020 with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica
On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant <hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user,
Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well


















Chris Hill
 

I, for one, can't remember when i last heard that one.  I'm currently using the beta with my verbosity set to intermediate, I wonder if that has anything to do with it?  I've been using that setting for longer than I can remember.


CH

On 10/6/2020 17:26, Randy Barnett wrote:
So you never hear "Jaws has lost focus. Press alt plus tab"? Is announce lost focus turned off in settings? I have been using Jaws for over 25 years on dozens of systems and it has always happened more than it should. It got better for wile then came back and will get better again.

To be fair though it is most likely Windows pulling Jaws focus to some temporary notification or something like that.

On 10/6/2020 12:55 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using jaws2020 with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica
On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant <hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user,
Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well





















Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

I've been using JAWS since 2018 and am running windows 10 Pro on three
computers and have never seen this problem.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hill" <hillco@earthlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?


I, for one, can't remember when i last heard that one. I'm currently
using the beta with my verbosity set to intermediate, I wonder if that
has anything to do with it? I've been using that setting for longer
than I can remember.


CH



On 10/6/2020 17:26, Randy Barnett wrote:
So you never hear "Jaws has lost focus. Press alt plus tab"? Is
announce lost focus turned off in settings? I have been using Jaws for
over 25 years on dozens of systems and it has always happened more
than it should. It got better for wile then came back and will get
better again.

To be fair though it is most likely Windows pulling Jaws focus to some
temporary notification or something like that.

On 10/6/2020 12:55 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using jaws2020
with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica
On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant
<hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what
version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user,
Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio
Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified
as well






















ratshtron
 

hmmm, I have been using jaws sincwe vwersaion 2.0 and loss of focus has always been there from time-to-time and I still get it from time-to-time with jaws 18 and even when I was able to use 2020 earlier this year. Of course, it isn't as bad as it used to bwe but its still there.

Legend has it that on Tuesday 10/6/2020 06:24 PM, Loy said:
----------------------------------------
I've been using JAWS since 2018 and am running windows 10 Pro on three
computers and have never seen this problem.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hill" <hillco@earthlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?


I, for one, can't remember when i last heard that one. I'm currently
using the beta with my verbosity set to intermediate, I wonder if that
has anything to do with it? I've been using that setting for longer
than I can remember.


CH



On 10/6/2020 17:26, Randy Barnett wrote:
So you never hear "Jaws has lost focus. Press alt plus tab"? Is
announce lost focus turned off in settings? I have been using Jaws for
over 25 years on dozens of systems and it has always happened more
than it should. It got better for wile then came back and will get
better again.

To be fair though it is most likely Windows pulling Jaws focus to some
temporary notification or something like that.

On 10/6/2020 12:55 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using jaws2020
with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica
On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant
<hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what
version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user,
Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio
Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified
as well



























----------------------------------------


Van Lant, Robin
 

I know I hear it occasionally, but I'll have to pay attention to when it occurs. Like someone said, I often have assumed it was because I was being impatient and hit something that took focus away or something, but I'll pay closer attention to it. I'm on JAWS 2020 on Windows 10 on both of my machines.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 5:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

I've been using JAWS since 2018 and am running windows 10 Pro on three computers and have never seen this problem.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hill" <hillco@earthlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?


I, for one, can't remember when i last heard that one. I'm currently using the beta with my verbosity set to intermediate, I wonder if that has anything to do with it? I've been using that setting for longer than I can remember.


CH



On 10/6/2020 17:26, Randy Barnett wrote:
So you never hear "Jaws has lost focus. Press alt plus tab"? Is
announce lost focus turned off in settings? I have been using Jaws for
over 25 years on dozens of systems and it has always happened more
than it should. It got better for wile then came back and will get
better again.

To be fair though it is most likely Windows pulling Jaws focus to some
temporary notification or something like that.

On 10/6/2020 12:55 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using jaws2020
with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica
On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant
<hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what
version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user, Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio
Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified
as well






























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Dan Longmore
 

No verbosity setting has no bearing. This is a jaws issue over many versions.

On Oct 6, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@earthlink.net> wrote:

I, for one, can't remember when i last heard that one. I'm currently using the beta with my verbosity set to intermediate, I wonder if that has anything to do with it? I've been using that setting for longer than I can remember.


CH



On 10/6/2020 17:26, Randy Barnett wrote:
So you never hear "Jaws has lost focus. Press alt plus tab"? Is announce lost focus turned off in settings? I have been using Jaws for over 25 years on dozens of systems and it has always happened more than it should. It got better for wile then came back and will get better again.

To be fair though it is most likely Windows pulling Jaws focus to some temporary notification or something like that.

On 10/6/2020 12:55 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using jaws2020 with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica
On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant <hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user,
Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well
























Don Mauck
 

I've never seen this not happen.


Regards:

Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office | (APO)

303.334.4184
Don.mauck@oracle.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 10:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

No verbosity setting has no bearing. This is a jaws issue over many versions.
On Oct 6, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@earthlink.net> wrote:

I, for one, can't remember when i last heard that one. I'm currently using the beta with my verbosity set to intermediate, I wonder if that has anything to do with it? I've been using that setting for longer than I can remember.


CH



On 10/6/2020 17:26, Randy Barnett wrote:
So you never hear "Jaws has lost focus. Press alt plus tab"? Is announce lost focus turned off in settings? I have been using Jaws for over 25 years on dozens of systems and it has always happened more than it should. It got better for wile then came back and will get better again.

To be fair though it is most likely Windows pulling Jaws focus to some temporary notification or something like that.

On 10/6/2020 12:55 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using
jaws2020 with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica
On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant <hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user, Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron
Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed
Ham Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares
and NIMS Certified as well
























Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

I think it might be more accurate to say that it is a Windows issue giving jobs problems. :-)

Randy Barnett

On Oct 7, 2020, at 9:37 AM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@gmail.com> wrote:

No verbosity setting has no bearing. This is a jaws issue over many versions.
On Oct 6, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@earthlink.net> wrote:

I, for one, can't remember when i last heard that one. I'm currently using the beta with my verbosity set to intermediate, I wonder if that has anything to do with it? I've been using that setting for longer than I can remember.


CH



On 10/6/2020 17:26, Randy Barnett wrote:
So you never hear "Jaws has lost focus. Press alt plus tab"? Is announce lost focus turned off in settings? I have been using Jaws for over 25 years on dozens of systems and it has always happened more than it should. It got better for wile then came back and will get better again.

To be fair though it is most likely Windows pulling Jaws focus to some temporary notification or something like that.

On 10/6/2020 12:55 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using jaws2020 with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica
On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant <hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user,
Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well