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Hello, Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them. Thanks, Kevin
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Yes Kevin, Me neither.
Love in
Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will
agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full
of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1,
2020
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Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 1:57 PM
Subject: Using icloud.com
Hello,
Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to
friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access
them.
Thanks,
Kevin
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Jim Weiss <jimweiss72@...>
Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.
On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:
Hello, Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them. Thanks, Kevin
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Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows… Randy Barnett
On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote: Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari. On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:
Hello, Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them. Thanks, Kevin
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Knowing how Apple is about their stuff, could it be that they won’t work
with FS to create JAWS scripts for iCloud or iTunes? These are 2 pretty
big main stream programs, and it is a little surprising at the lack of outcry
for better accessibility. I can get iTunes to work, although it is clunky,
but iCloud is useless to me.
Love in
Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will
agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full
of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1,
2020
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Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: Using iCloud.com
Yes,
but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple
does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and
iTunes for windows…
Randy Barnett
On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io
<jimweiss72@...> wrote:
Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use
Safari.
On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers
<kman2020@...> wrote:
Hello,
Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to
friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot
access them.
Thanks,
Kevin
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It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.
On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...> wrote:
Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows… Randy Barnett
On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:
Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari. On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:
Hello, Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them. Thanks, Kevin
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Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Just because I was primarily a Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then the word Eyes.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted
not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Dan Longmore
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com
It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.
Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…
On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:
Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.
On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:
Hello,
Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.
Thanks,
Kevin
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Sorry I saw the comment about Freedom Scientific pushing Windows-eyes out of the market. But wanted to point out that Freedom and the vendor of Window-eyes murged. Which is kind of like saying Freedom purchased the Window-eyes vendor.
Anyways, its expensive to run 2 development groups and so after a year or so Freedom stop development on Window-eyes, but many of the ideas in Window-eyes are being incorporated into Jaws.
Not to mention a lot of the developers who use to work on Window-eyes are now working on Jaws.
Have a good day everyone.
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Richard Turner via groups.io
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Subject: Re: Using icloud.com
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Just because I was primarily a Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then the word Eyes.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted
not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Dan Longmore
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com
It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.
Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…
On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:
Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.
On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:
Hello,
Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.
Thanks,
Kevin
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Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Actually, Freedom Scientific was after Window-eyes for years even filing a frivolous law suit over place markers.
Window-eyes merged with AI Squared, the makers of zoomText, and then The conglomerate that owned Freedom Scientific bought AI Squared and told the Window-eyes staff/AI Squared that they would continue to be developed as part of the umbrella
group which became Vespiro.
It did not take long before instead of following through with that, they pulled the plug on Window-eyes.
I know, personally, some of the people, and they ended up having to give some severance packages to people formerly of Window-Eyes/AI Squared.
They did dump their own Magic program in favor of ZoomText which is now part of the Fusion program.
I use Jaws because it is still better than NVDA or Narrator and because they killed Window-Eyes so I have little choice.
But, before I get kicked off this list for speaking the truth about the 800 pound gorilla in the room, I’ll shut up about this.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted
not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shan Noyes
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com
Sorry I saw the comment about Freedom Scientific pushing Windows-eyes out of the market. But wanted to point out that Freedom and the vendor of Window-eyes murged. Which is kind of like saying Freedom purchased the Window-eyes vendor.
Anyways, its expensive to run 2 development groups and so after a year or so Freedom stop development on Window-eyes, but many of the ideas in Window-eyes are being incorporated into Jaws.
Not to mention a lot of the developers who use to work on Window-eyes are now working on Jaws.
Have a good day everyone.
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Just because I was primarily a Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then the word Eyes.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted
not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.
Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…
On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:
Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.
On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:
Hello,
Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.
Thanks,
Kevin
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And exactly which
wonderful features of Window Eyes have been incorporated into
JAWS? For instance, Window Eyes allegedly had a feature that
provided speech when booting into safe mode. If this feature
actually worked, which isdebatable, then why hasn't it been
incorporated into JAWS?
Gerald
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On 9/10/2020 9:44 AM, Richard Turner
wrote:
Actually, Freedom Scientific was after
Window-eyes for years even filing a frivolous law suit over
place markers.
Window-eyes merged with AI Squared, the
makers of zoomText, and then The conglomerate that owned
Freedom Scientific bought AI Squared and told the Window-eyes
staff/AI Squared that they would continue to be developed as
part of the umbrella group which became Vespiro.
It did not take long before instead of
following through with that, they pulled the plug on
Window-eyes.
I know, personally, some of the people, and
they ended up having to give some severance packages to people
formerly of Window-Eyes/AI Squared.
They did dump their own Magic program in
favor of ZoomText which is now part of the Fusion program.
I use Jaws because it is still better than
NVDA or Narrator and because they killed Window-Eyes so I have
little choice.
But, before I get kicked off this list for
speaking the truth about the 800 pound gorilla in the room,
I’ll shut up about this.
Richard
"He that
cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the
cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable
that while I have regretted not granting grace to others,
I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
Sorry I saw the comment about Freedom
Scientific pushing Windows-eyes out of the market. But wanted
to point out that Freedom and the vendor of Window-eyes
murged. Which is kind of like saying Freedom purchased the
Window-eyes vendor. Anyways, its expensive to run 2
development groups and so after a year or so Freedom stop
development on Window-eyes, but many of the ideas in
Window-eyes are being incorporated into Jaws.
Not to mention a lot of the developers who
use to work on Window-eyes are now working on Jaws.
Have a good day everyone.
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Just because I was primarily a
Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was
Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then
the word Eyes.
Richard
"He that
cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he
must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can
break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is
notable that while I have regretted not granting grace
to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
Edward Herbert
It has a lot
to do with them wanting you to use their products on their
platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the
same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of
the market.
Yes,
but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I
can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on
the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes
for windows…
On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io
<jimweiss72@...>
wrote:
Yes,
I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and
I use Safari.
On
Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...>
wrote:
Hello,
Has anyone used icloud.com? To
me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has
pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot
access them.
Thanks,
Kevin
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Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Sadly, they never followed through with incorporating those features. The Safe Mode speech with Window-Eyes worked quite well.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted
not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com
And exactly which wonderful features of Window Eyes have been incorporated into JAWS? For instance, Window Eyes allegedly had a feature that provided speech when booting into safe mode. If this feature actually
worked, which isdebatable, then why hasn't it been incorporated into JAWS?
Gerald
On 9/10/2020 9:44 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Actually, Freedom Scientific was after Window-eyes for years even filing a frivolous law suit over place markers.
Window-eyes merged with AI Squared, the makers of zoomText, and then The conglomerate that owned Freedom Scientific bought AI Squared and told the Window-eyes staff/AI Squared that they would continue to be developed as part of the umbrella
group which became Vespiro.
It did not take long before instead of following through with that, they pulled the plug on Window-eyes.
I know, personally, some of the people, and they ended up having to give some severance packages to people formerly of Window-Eyes/AI Squared.
They did dump their own Magic program in favor of ZoomText which is now part of the Fusion program.
I use Jaws because it is still better than NVDA or Narrator and because they killed Window-Eyes so I have little choice.
But, before I get kicked off this list for speaking the truth about the 800 pound gorilla in the room, I’ll shut up about this.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted
not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
Sorry I saw the comment about Freedom Scientific pushing Windows-eyes out of the market. But wanted to point out that Freedom and the vendor of Window-eyes murged. Which is kind of like saying Freedom purchased the Window-eyes vendor.
Anyways, its expensive to run 2 development groups and so after a year or so Freedom stop development on Window-eyes, but many of the ideas in Window-eyes are being incorporated into Jaws.
Not to mention a lot of the developers who use to work on Window-eyes are now working on Jaws.
Have a good day everyone.
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Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
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Just because I was primarily a Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then the word Eyes.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted
not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.
Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…
On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:
Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.
On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:
Hello,
Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.
Thanks,
Kevin
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I think that the safe mode feature did a registry hack to get the sound driver into safe mode, so maybe you could find that hack and and maybe Jaws would work in safe mode after all. On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 10:05:45 -0400, Richard Turner wrote:
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Sadly, they never followed through with incorporating those features. The Safe Mode speech with Window-Eyes worked quite well.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com
And exactly which wonderful features of Window Eyes have been incorporated into JAWS? For instance, Window Eyes allegedly had a feature that provided speech when booting into safe mode. If this feature actually worked, which isdebatable, then why hasn't it been incorporated into JAWS?
Gerald
On 9/10/2020 9:44 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Actually, Freedom Scientific was after Window-eyes for years even filing a frivolous law suit over place markers.
Window-eyes merged with AI Squared, the makers of zoomText, and then The conglomerate that owned Freedom Scientific bought AI Squared and told the Window-eyes staff/AI Squared that they would continue to be developed as part of the umbrella group which became Vespiro.
It did not take long before instead of following through with that, they pulled the plug on Window-eyes.
I know, personally, some of the people, and they ended up having to give some severance packages to people formerly of Window-Eyes/AI Squared.
They did dump their own Magic program in favor of ZoomText which is now part of the Fusion program.
I use Jaws because it is still better than NVDA or Narrator and because they killed Window-Eyes so I have little choice.
But, before I get kicked off this list for speaking the truth about the 800 pound gorilla in the room, I’ll shut up about this.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com
Sorry I saw the comment about Freedom Scientific pushing Windows-eyes out of the market. But wanted to point out that Freedom and the vendor of Window-eyes murged. Which is kind of like saying Freedom purchased the Window-eyes vendor. Anyways, its expensive to run 2 development groups and so after a year or so Freedom stop development on Window-eyes, but many of the ideas in Window-eyes are being incorporated into Jaws.
Not to mention a lot of the developers who use to work on Window-eyes are now working on Jaws.
Have a good day everyone.
From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com
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Just because I was primarily a Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then the word Eyes.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com
It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.
On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@gmail.com<mailto:blindmansbluff09@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…
Randy Barnett
On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72=icloud.com@groups.io<mailto:jimweiss72=icloud.com@groups.io>> wrote:
Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.
On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@wi.rr.com<mailto:kman2020@wi.rr.com>> wrote:
Hello,
Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.
Thanks,
Kevin
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Hi, One of the key developers of Windows Eyes is now heading up Narrator for Microsoft, last I heard, so Narrator may have the last laugh. Seriously JAWS is a fine product but needs a good competitor though NVDA and Narrator are getting there.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:45 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Using icloud.com Actually, Freedom Scientific was after Window-eyes for years even filing a frivolous law suit over place markers. Window-eyes merged with AI Squared, the makers of zoomText, and then The conglomerate that owned Freedom Scientific bought AI Squared and told the Window-eyes staff/AI Squared that they would continue to be developed as part of the umbrella group which became Vespiro. It did not take long before instead of following through with that, they pulled the plug on Window-eyes. I know, personally, some of the people, and they ended up having to give some severance packages to people formerly of Window-Eyes/AI Squared. They did dump their own Magic program in favor of ZoomText which is now part of the Fusion program. I use Jaws because it is still better than NVDA or Narrator and because they killed Window-Eyes so I have little choice. But, before I get kicked off this list for speaking the truth about the 800 pound gorilla in the room, I’ll shut up about this. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert Sorry I saw the comment about Freedom Scientific pushing Windows-eyes out of the market. But wanted to point out that Freedom and the vendor of Window-eyes murged. Which is kind of like saying Freedom purchased the Window-eyes vendor. Anyways, its expensive to run 2 development groups and so after a year or so Freedom stop development on Window-eyes, but many of the ideas in Window-eyes are being incorporated into Jaws. Not to mention a lot of the developers who use to work on Window-eyes are now working on Jaws. Have a good day everyone. -------------------------------------------------------------
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-------------------------------------------------------------- Just because I was primarily a Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then the word Eyes. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market. Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…
On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:
Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari. On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:
Hello, Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them. Thanks, Kevin
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Please, this is another topic. I just want help with iCloud.
Love in
Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will
agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full
of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1,
2020
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Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: Using iCloud.com
And exactly which wonderful
features of Window Eyes have been incorporated into JAWS? For instance,
Window Eyes allegedly had a feature that provided speech when booting into safe
mode. If this feature actually worked, which isdebatable, then why hasn't
it been incorporated into JAWS?
Gerald
On 9/10/2020 9:44 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Actually, Freedom Scientific was after Window-eyes for
years even filing a frivolous law suit over place markers.
Window-eyes merged with AI Squared, the makers of zoomText,
and then The conglomerate that owned Freedom Scientific bought AI Squared and
told the Window-eyes staff/AI Squared that they would continue to be developed
as part of the umbrella group which became Vespiro.
It did not take long before instead of following through
with that, they pulled the plug on Window-eyes.
I know, personally, some of the people, and they ended up
having to give some severance packages to people formerly of Window-Eyes/AI
Squared.
They did dump their own Magic program in favor of ZoomText
which is now part of the Fusion program.
I use Jaws because it is still better than NVDA or Narrator
and because they killed Window-Eyes so I have little choice.
But, before I get kicked off this list for speaking the
truth about the 800 pound gorilla in the room, I’ll shut up about
this.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive
others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that
only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is
notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never
once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
Sorry I saw the comment about Freedom Scientific pushing
Windows-eyes out of the market. But wanted to point out that Freedom and
the vendor of Window-eyes murged. Which is kind of like saying Freedom
purchased the Window-eyes vendor. Anyways, its expensive to run 2
development groups and so after a year or so Freedom stop development on
Window-eyes, but many of the ideas in Window-eyes are being incorporated into
Jaws.
Not to mention a lot of the developers who use to work on
Window-eyes are now working on Jaws.
Have a good day everyone.
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Just because I was primarily a Window-Eyes user before this
happened, the program name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a
hyphen and then the word Eyes.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive
others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that
only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is
notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never
once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
It has a lot to do with them
wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s
across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window
wise out of the market.
Yes, but for us Windows
users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an
awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for
windows…
On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33
PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...>
wrote:
Yes, I use it all the time.
I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.
On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM,
kevin meyers <kman2020@...>
wrote:
Hello,
Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to
friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot
access them.
Thanks,
Kevin
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Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
Well, It is not accessible. You can sorta use some of it by using
every Jaws navigational work around you can think of but thats it.
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On 9/10/2020 3:35 PM, Marty Hutchings
wrote:
Please, this is another topic. I just want help with
iCloud.
Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will
agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale
told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying
nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: Using iCloud.com
And exactly
which wonderful features of Window Eyes have been
incorporated into JAWS? For instance, Window Eyes
allegedly had a feature that provided speech when
booting into safe mode. If this feature actually
worked, which isdebatable, then why hasn't it been
incorporated into JAWS?
Gerald
On 9/10/2020 9:44 AM, Richard
Turner wrote:
Actually, Freedom Scientific was
after Window-eyes for years even filing a frivolous
law suit over place markers.
Window-eyes merged with AI Squared,
the makers of zoomText, and then The conglomerate that
owned Freedom Scientific bought AI Squared and told
the Window-eyes staff/AI Squared that they would
continue to be developed as part of the umbrella group
which became Vespiro.
It did not take long before instead
of following through with that, they pulled the plug
on Window-eyes.
I know, personally, some of the
people, and they ended up having to give some
severance packages to people formerly of
Window-Eyes/AI Squared.
They did dump their own Magic
program in favor of ZoomText which is now part of the
Fusion program.
I use Jaws because it is still
better than NVDA or Narrator and because they killed
Window-Eyes so I have little choice.
But, before I get kicked off this
list for speaking the truth about the 800 pound
gorilla in the room, I’ll shut up about this.
Richard
"He
that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over
which he must pass himself,” and we forget that
only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never
once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
Sorry I saw the comment about
Freedom Scientific pushing Windows-eyes out of the
market. But wanted to point out that Freedom and the
vendor of Window-eyes murged. Which is kind of like
saying Freedom purchased the Window-eyes vendor.
Anyways, its expensive to run 2 development groups and
so after a year or so Freedom stop development on
Window-eyes, but many of the ideas in Window-eyes are
being incorporated into Jaws.
Not to mention a lot of the
developers who use to work on Window-eyes are now
working on Jaws.
Have a good day everyone.
-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of
SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you
trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Just because I was primarily a
Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program
name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then
a hyphen and then the word Eyes.
Richard
"He
that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge
over which he must pass himself,” and we forget
that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while
I have regretted not granting grace to others,
I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
Edward Herbert
It
has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their
products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s
across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom
Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.
Yes,
but for us Windows users it is not much fun at
all. I can't understand why Apple does such an
awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job
on iCloud and iTunes for windows…
On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via
groups.io <jimweiss72@...>
wrote:
Yes,
I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac
user, and I use Safari.
On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin
meyers <kman2020@...>
wrote:
Hello,
Has anyone used
icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to
friendly. I know it has pictures and
videos from my IPhone. I just cannot
access them.
Thanks,
Kevin
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