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moderated Clicking on button using OCR

David Griffith
 

 

Yes I agree – I have sometimes had to navigate inaccessible dialogues this way.

The only thing is that after clicking on a control with the virtual mouse as you describe you then have to re-perform the OCR to locate the next inaccessible control as the screen would then have updated. This can make it all a tedious process but it is better to have this option than not.

David Griffith

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From: Bill White
Sent: 29 June 2020 21:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Clicking on button using OCR

 

Hi, Richard. What Glenn says is not true. Often, when I am on a webpage, and I am using JAWS OCR, (INSERT plus SPACE, followed by the letter C for Controls, often controls that are not accessible with JAWS normally are shown. Then, I use the Left Mouse key on the keyboard. If JAWS is in Desktop layout mode, the Left Mouse key is the slash key on the Keypad, not the numbers row below the function keys. If in Laptop keyboard layout, the Left Mouse key is Capslock plus the eight key below the Function keys. This way, I can often click a button or control on a webpage.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Chen
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Clicking on button using OCR

 

Okay, thank you.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Clicking on button using OCR

 

When you do OCR with Jaws, it is just text, not active content like on a web page.

So you cannot, it's just a text copy.

HTH.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 8:59 AM

Subject: Clicking on button using OCR

 

Hi,

 

Hope this isn’t a stupid question but wondering how I would click on a button when using Jaws OCR to read content in an application?

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi Bill,
These are OCR controls, I take it that is not what was meant.  The OCR controls are one thing, but if one does OCR of something, that is text, so you might hear it refer to a button, but it is not really a button in the OCR text.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: Clicking on button using OCR

Hi, Glenn. Here is what JAWS help says about the OCR layer of the INSERT plus SPACE BAR, followed by O commands,

 

The following commands are available in the OCR layer.
Acquire and OCR a print document from a Scanner or Freedom Scientific Camera such as PEARL, using the letter A.
OCR a scanned PDF Document opened in Acrobat Reader using the letter D.
From Windows Explorer, you can OCR any Image File using the letter F.
From the computer screen itself, you can OCR a Control with C, Window with W, or the entire Screen with S.

You can press Q to quit or cancel an OCR job.

 

Note:

 

From the computer screen itself, you can OCR a Control with C, Window with W, or the entire Screen with S.

There would be no point of OCR ing a control if there were no way of interacting with the control which was OCR'ed.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 11:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Clicking on button using OCR

 

When you do OCR with Jaws, it is just text, not active content like on a web page.

So you cannot, it's just a text copy.

HTH.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Richard Chen

Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 8:59 AM

Subject: Clicking on button using OCR

 

Hi,

 

Hope this isn’t a stupid question but wondering how I would click on a button when using Jaws OCR to read content in an application?

 

Thanks

 

 

Glenn / Lenny
 

Bill, If you are using the Jaws cursor, you have navigated outside the OCR window, and onto the web page.
That is why it works for you.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: Clicking on button using OCR

Hi, Richard. What Glenn says is not true. Often, when I am on a webpage, and I am using JAWS OCR, (INSERT plus SPACE, followed by the letter C for Controls, often controls that are not accessible with JAWS normally are shown. Then, I use the Left Mouse key on the keyboard. If JAWS is in Desktop layout mode, the Left Mouse key is the slash key on the Keypad, not the numbers row below the function keys. If in Laptop keyboard layout, the Left Mouse key is Capslock plus the eight key below the Function keys. This way, I can often click a button or control on a webpage.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Chen
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Clicking on button using OCR

 

Okay, thank you.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Clicking on button using OCR

 

When you do OCR with Jaws, it is just text, not active content like on a web page.

So you cannot, it's just a text copy.

HTH.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Richard Chen

Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 8:59 AM

Subject: Clicking on button using OCR

 

Hi,

 

Hope this isn’t a stupid question but wondering how I would click on a button when using Jaws OCR to read content in an application?

 

Thanks

 

 

Richard Chen
 

Hi Bill,

 

Thanks for the explanation. I’ll try that.

 

Rich’

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 4:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Clicking on button using OCR

 

Hi, Richard. What Glenn says is not true. Often, when I am on a webpage, and I am using JAWS OCR, (INSERT plus SPACE, followed by the letter C for Controls, often controls that are not accessible with JAWS normally are shown. Then, I use the Left Mouse key on the keyboard. If JAWS is in Desktop layout mode, the Left Mouse key is the slash key on the Keypad, not the numbers row below the function keys. If in Laptop keyboard layout, the Left Mouse key is Capslock plus the eight key below the Function keys. This way, I can often click a button or control on a webpage.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Chen
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Clicking on button using OCR

 

Okay, thank you.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Clicking on button using OCR

 

When you do OCR with Jaws, it is just text, not active content like on a web page.

So you cannot, it's just a text copy.

HTH.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 8:59 AM

Subject: Clicking on button using OCR

 

Hi,

 

Hope this isn’t a stupid question but wondering how I would click on a button when using Jaws OCR to read content in an application?

 

Thanks

 

 

Bill White
 

Hi, Glenn. Here is what JAWS help says about the OCR layer of the INSERT plus SPACE BAR, followed by O commands,

 

The following commands are available in the OCR layer.
Acquire and OCR a print document from a Scanner or Freedom Scientific Camera such as PEARL, using the letter A.
OCR a scanned PDF Document opened in Acrobat Reader using the letter D.
From Windows Explorer, you can OCR any Image File using the letter F.
From the computer screen itself, you can OCR a Control with C, Window with W, or the entire Screen with S.

You can press Q to quit or cancel an OCR job.

 

Note:

 

From the computer screen itself, you can OCR a Control with C, Window with W, or the entire Screen with S.

There would be no point of OCR ing a control if there were no way of interacting with the control which was OCR'ed.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 11:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Clicking on button using OCR

 

When you do OCR with Jaws, it is just text, not active content like on a web page.

So you cannot, it's just a text copy.

HTH.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 8:59 AM

Subject: Clicking on button using OCR

 

Hi,

 

Hope this isn’t a stupid question but wondering how I would click on a button when using Jaws OCR to read content in an application?

 

Thanks

 

 

Bill White
 

Hi, Richard. What Glenn says is not true. Often, when I am on a webpage, and I am using JAWS OCR, (INSERT plus SPACE, followed by the letter C for Controls, often controls that are not accessible with JAWS normally are shown. Then, I use the Left Mouse key on the keyboard. If JAWS is in Desktop layout mode, the Left Mouse key is the slash key on the Keypad, not the numbers row below the function keys. If in Laptop keyboard layout, the Left Mouse key is Capslock plus the eight key below the Function keys. This way, I can often click a button or control on a webpage.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Chen
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Clicking on button using OCR

 

Okay, thank you.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Clicking on button using OCR

 

When you do OCR with Jaws, it is just text, not active content like on a web page.

So you cannot, it's just a text copy.

HTH.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 8:59 AM

Subject: Clicking on button using OCR

 

Hi,

 

Hope this isn’t a stupid question but wondering how I would click on a button when using Jaws OCR to read content in an application?

 

Thanks

 

 

Richard Chen
 

Okay, thank you.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Clicking on button using OCR

 

When you do OCR with Jaws, it is just text, not active content like on a web page.

So you cannot, it's just a text copy.

HTH.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 8:59 AM

Subject: Clicking on button using OCR

 

Hi,

 

Hope this isn’t a stupid question but wondering how I would click on a button when using Jaws OCR to read content in an application?

 

Thanks

 

 

Glenn / Lenny
 

When you do OCR with Jaws, it is just text, not active content like on a web page.
So you cannot, it's just a text copy.
HTH.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 8:59 AM
Subject: Clicking on button using OCR

Hi,

 

Hope this isn’t a stupid question but wondering how I would click on a button when using Jaws OCR to read content in an application?

 

Thanks

 

 

Richard Chen
 

Hi,

 

Hope this isn’t a stupid question but wondering how I would click on a button when using Jaws OCR to read content in an application?

 

Thanks