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Rahul Bajaj
Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do?
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Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Rahul. Instead of reading the pdf in Word, Press CONTROL A to select
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all, copy all the text into Notepad, and try reading it as text. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do? Rahul |
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Sharon
Purchase qread and read pdfs using that. It works way better than Adobe.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 2:39 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do? Rahul |
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Tony
When I have tried this in the past many spaces between words were omitted
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causing run-on words. Haven't tried it in a few years. Tony -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi, Rahul. Instead of reading the pdf in Word, Press CONTROL A to select all, copy all the text into Notepad, and try reading it as text. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do? Rahul |
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Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
I have made Word my default PDF reader. I haven't encountered problems, but
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that of course doesn't mean I won't encounter them. I find it far preferable to Adobe Reader. -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 4:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence When I have tried this in the past many spaces between words were omitted causing run-on words. Haven't tried it in a few years. Tony -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi, Rahul. Instead of reading the pdf in Word, Press CONTROL A to select all, copy all the text into Notepad, and try reading it as text. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do? Rahul |
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Rahul Bajaj
With notepad and qread, para-wise navigation is not possible. And reading the document line by line or through say all are both not good ideas. If you open it in word, it can sometimes miss things. I have seen this happen.
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Rahul On Jun 25, 2020, at 2:08 AM, Dean Martineau <topdot@...> wrote: |
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Sharon
Again, qread takes care of all these problems, and is much more doable than pdf.
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Lots of times pdf files will have all the words run together without spaces, but qread separates all the words. Sharon -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 4:43 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence With notepad and qread, para-wise navigation is not possible. And reading the document line by line or through say all are both not good ideas. If you open it in word, it can sometimes miss things. I have seen this happen. Rahul On Jun 25, 2020, at 2:08 AM, Dean Martineau <topdot@...> wrote: |
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JM Casey
It does work and was worth the purchase, but an important caveat is that
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it's really meant for very simple documents only. It doesn't really have many features and in some cases you may still be better off using Adobe. I think it's mostly designed for e-books, as in, the type of books you would read for pleasure -- and it works very well for that purpose. -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon Sent: June 24, 2020 3:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence Purchase qread and read pdfs using that. It works way better than Adobe. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 2:39 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do? Rahul |
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Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@...>
I have actually found that QRead works quite well for most PDF documents I have used it with, including many technical manuals. For me, it is usually my first choice to try when reading a PDF.
Pam ________________________________________ From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of JM Casey via groups.io [jmcasey@...] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 5:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence It does work and was worth the purchase, but an important caveat is that it's really meant for very simple documents only. It doesn't really have many features and in some cases you may still be better off using Adobe. I think it's mostly designed for e-books, as in, the type of books you would read for pleasure -- and it works very well for that purpose. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon Sent: June 24, 2020 3:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence Purchase qread and read pdfs using that. It works way better than Adobe. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 2:39 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do? Rahul |
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Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Sometimes, you have to try something else instead of
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Infer reading order from document (recommended) This means choosing from one of the two remaining options, Left-to-right, top-to-bottom reading order Use reading order in raw print stream Usually, if you choose one of the other two options, it renders the pdf better than Infer reading order from document Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence When I have tried this in the past many spaces between words were omitted causing run-on words. Haven't tried it in a few years. Tony -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi, Rahul. Instead of reading the pdf in Word, Press CONTROL A to select all, copy all the text into Notepad, and try reading it as text. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do? Rahul |
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Ann Byrne
K1000 does an excellent job.
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At 04:06 PM 6/24/2020, you wrote:
Again, qread takes care of all these problems, and is much more doable than pdf. |
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Tim Ford
How would I make that Word setup in Windows 10?
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dean Martineau Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:38 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence I have made Word my default PDF reader. I haven't encountered problems, but that of course doesn't mean I won't encounter them. I find it far preferable to Adobe Reader. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 4:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence When I have tried this in the past many spaces between words were omitted causing run-on words. Haven't tried it in a few years. Tony -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi, Rahul. Instead of reading the pdf in Word, Press CONTROL A to select all, copy all the text into Notepad, and try reading it as text. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do? Rahul |
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Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
The easiest way is to find a pdf document among your documents. Arrow to
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that document, but don't open it. 1. Press ALT plus ENTER for Properties. 2. Press SHIFT plus TAB once to get to the "Change" button, and press ENTER. 3. Press SHIFT plus TAB again to get to the list of apps you can associate with PDF files. 4. Choose Microsoft Word from the list of apps. 5. TAB to the "Apply" button, and press ENTER. 6. Tab to the "OK" button, and press ENTER. That's it. You have changed your default pdf reader to Microsoft Word. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 4:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence How would I make that Word setup in Windows 10? Tim Ford -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dean Martineau Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:38 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence I have made Word my default PDF reader. I haven't encountered problems, but that of course doesn't mean I won't encounter them. I find it far preferable to Adobe Reader. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 4:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence When I have tried this in the past many spaces between words were omitted causing run-on words. Haven't tried it in a few years. Tony -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi, Rahul. Instead of reading the pdf in Word, Press CONTROL A to select all, copy all the text into Notepad, and try reading it as text. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do? Rahul |
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Sharon
It will also read pretty large books.
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For example, I do read study bibles with it, and they are pretty long. But it does have its limitations. Sharon -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 5:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence It does work and was worth the purchase, but an important caveat is that it's really meant for very simple documents only. It doesn't really have many features and in some cases you may still be better off using Adobe. I think it's mostly designed for e-books, as in, the type of books you would read for pleasure -- and it works very well for that purpose. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon Sent: June 24, 2020 3:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence Purchase qread and read pdfs using that. It works way better than Adobe. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 2:39 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do? Rahul |
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Sharon
Yes, that is another excellent choice.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 6:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence K1000 does an excellent job. At 04:06 PM 6/24/2020, you wrote: Again, qread takes care of all these problems, and is much more doablehappen. do?
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JM Casey
It doesn't seem to track very well with my braille display, sadly. I usually
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use it to open pdf, mobi or epub files, and then convert to good ole' plain text and just read 'em in notepad. -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon Sent: June 24, 2020 9:16 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence It will also read pretty large books. For example, I do read study bibles with it, and they are pretty long. But it does have its limitations. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 5:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence It does work and was worth the purchase, but an important caveat is that it's really meant for very simple documents only. It doesn't really have many features and in some cases you may still be better off using Adobe. I think it's mostly designed for e-books, as in, the type of books you would read for pleasure -- and it works very well for that purpose. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon Sent: June 24, 2020 3:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence Purchase qread and read pdfs using that. It works way better than Adobe. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 2:39 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do? Rahul |
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Rahul Bajaj
I have QRead. However, like I said earlier, you cannot go para by para in it. It’s just line by line or say all. And those are not feasible for large docs, in which you need to skim through some things and read the rest with care.
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Adobe Reader is mostly fine. Except for slight jumping and words being jumbled up sometimes. I am just worried about skating over content or going to the wrong place in the document by mistake. Can you confirm that the jump is generally only of 1 or 2 lines and only when turning pages? Rahul On Jun 25, 2020, at 8:19 AM, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote: |
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Sharon
I do know that headings are displayed in bookshare books.
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The find command is also very useful. By tabbing you can find your position in the text, so you can kind of tell of you've skipped quite a bit and get back fairly easily. I use it for all kinds of books--reference, textbooks, etc. Sharon -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 12:42 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence I have QRead. However, like I said earlier, you cannot go para by para in it. It’s just line by line or say all. And those are not feasible for large docs, in which you need to skim through some things and read the rest with care. Adobe Reader is mostly fine. Except for slight jumping and words being jumbled up sometimes. I am just worried about skating over content or going to the wrong place in the document by mistake. Can you confirm that the jump is generally only of 1 or 2 lines and only when turning pages? Rahul On Jun 25, 2020, at 8:19 AM, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote: |
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David Griffith
I agree that there is a problem with using Q Read with jaws if you want to read by paragraph but you should be aware that this problem disappears with an alternative screenreader like Narrator. If you use control down arrow in Q Read with Narrator running the content reads absolutely predictably and fine, at least it does here. David Griffith
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From: Rahul Bajaj
Sent: 25 June 2020 05:42 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence
I have QRead. However, like I said earlier, you cannot go para by para in it. It’s just line by line or say all. And those are not feasible for large docs, in which you need to skim through some things and read the rest with care.
Adobe Reader is mostly fine. Except for slight jumping and words being jumbled up sometimes. I am just worried about skating over content or going to the wrong place in the document by mistake. Can you confirm that the jump is generally only of 1 or 2 lines and only when turning pages?
Rahul > On Jun 25, 2020, at 8:19 AM, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote: > > It doesn't seem to track very well with my braille display, sadly. I usually > use it to open pdf, mobi or epub files, and then convert to good ole' plain > text and just read 'em in notepad. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon > Sent: June 24, 2020 9:16 PM > To: main@jfw.groups.io > Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence > > It will also read pretty large books. > For example, I do read study bibles with it, and they are pretty long. > But it does have its limitations. > Sharon > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 5:10 PM > To: main@jfw.groups.io > Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence > > It does work and was worth the purchase, but an important caveat is that > it's really meant for very simple documents only. It doesn't really have > many features and in some cases you may still be better off using Adobe. I > think it's mostly designed for e-books, as in, the type of books you would > read for pleasure -- and it works very well for that purpose. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon > Sent: June 24, 2020 3:28 PM > To: main@jfw.groups.io > Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence > > Purchase qread and read pdfs using that. It works way better than Adobe. > Sharon > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 2:39 PM > To: main@jfw.groups.io > Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence > > Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own > accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and > has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where > I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some > vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does > anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into > word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into > word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very > hard. So what can one do? > > Rahul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Russell Solowoniuk
Hi all,
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I've had this beef with JAWS and reading PDF documents forever! In a long PDF, when you press CTRL plus PageDown to go to the next page, the focus ends up somewhere in the middle of the next page instead of at the top of the page, so I must first give the CTRL plus Home command to go to the top of the page before starting to read the page. I've written to FS about this issue several times, but they never seem to bother fixing it. NVDA, on the other hand, places focus at the top of the next page when pressing CTRL plus PageDown, so it is possible to do. I guess FS doesn't think it's important enough to worry about. Very frustrating! Thanks, Russell -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 4:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence Sometimes, you have to try something else instead of Infer reading order from document (recommended) This means choosing from one of the two remaining options, Left-to-right, top-to-bottom reading order Use reading order in raw print stream Usually, if you choose one of the other two options, it renders the pdf better than Infer reading order from document Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence When I have tried this in the past many spaces between words were omitted causing run-on words. Haven't tried it in a few years. Tony -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi, Rahul. Instead of reading the pdf in Word, Press CONTROL A to select all, copy all the text into Notepad, and try reading it as text. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do? Rahul |
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