Moderated Reading a long Word document
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Adrian Spratt
I’ve never worked with JAWS’ bookmarks in Word, but I just experimented. As you say, the add, delete, etc. buttons show up with the JAWS cursor, not initially with the PC cursor. However, when I typed in an arbitrary name, a single press of the tab key took me, while using the PC cursor, to the add button. The other buttons didn’t appear for the obvious reason that they didn’t yet apply, no bookmark having been created. So, I’d suggest typing in a name again. If a single tab doesn’t bring up the add button, tab around again.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
mike mcglashon
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 1:18 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document
I tried your steps, With word version 2016 32 bit version; When I do an alt-n, k, I get the dialogue to add the bookmark name, but, The add button is not available even though I can see it with the jaws cursor. After typing in the bookmark name, how do I add the bookmark to see it in ctrl-g? I also see the radio buttons name and location; I chose location. Sometimes I see cancel button or close button? However, the add, delete, and go to buttons seem grayed out. Am also using jaws 2022.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
However, that is just for one, temporary marker. Alt+n then k allows you to add multiple bookmarks with separate names in Word documents, and control+g, shift+tab to the list, press b, for Bookmark, tab and either select or type in the name then press alt+g, followed by escape to land on your chosen bookmark.
Lots of keystrokes, but if you want to have multiple bookmarks in a very long document, it works well.
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Yes Tom, cntrl-windows-k to insert, alt-windows-k to retrieve. Take care, Takis
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Is there a key command for inserting a bookmark?
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Edward Green
Hi John,
I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab.
When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the letter b until you land on the one you want.
Cheers,
Ed
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Van Lant, Robin
I don’t think you can have spaces in your bookmark names. If you do, that may be why the button is not showing as available.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
mike mcglashon
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 11:18 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document
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I tried your steps, With word version 2016 32 bit version; When I do an alt-n, k, I get the dialogue to add the bookmark name, but, The add button is not available even though I can see it with the jaws cursor. After typing in the bookmark name, how do I add the bookmark to see it in ctrl-g? I also see the radio buttons name and location; I chose location. Sometimes I see cancel button or close button? However, the add, delete, and go to buttons seem grayed out. Am also using jaws 2022.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
However, that is just for one, temporary marker. Alt+n then k allows you to add multiple bookmarks with separate names in Word documents, and control+g, shift+tab to the list, press b, for Bookmark, tab and either select or type in the name then press alt+g, followed by escape to land on your chosen bookmark.
Lots of keystrokes, but if you want to have multiple bookmarks in a very long document, it works well.
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Yes Tom, cntrl-windows-k to insert, alt-windows-k to retrieve. Take care, Takis
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Is there a key command for inserting a bookmark?
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Edward Green
Hi John,
I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab.
When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the letter b until you land on the one you want.
Cheers,
Ed
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mike mcglashon
I tried your steps, With word version 2016 32 bit version; When I do an alt-n, k, I get the dialogue to add the bookmark name, but, The add button is not available even though I can see it with the jaws cursor. After typing in the bookmark name, how do I add the bookmark to see it in ctrl-g? I also see the radio buttons name and location; I chose location. Sometimes I see cancel button or close button? However, the add, delete, and go to buttons seem grayed out. Am also using jaws 2022.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 8:21 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document
However, that is just for one, temporary marker. Alt+n then k allows you to add multiple bookmarks with separate names in Word documents, and control+g, shift+tab to the list, press b, for Bookmark, tab and either select or type in the name then press alt+g, followed by escape to land on your chosen bookmark.
Lots of keystrokes, but if you want to have multiple bookmarks in a very long document, it works well.
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Yes Tom, cntrl-windows-k to insert, alt-windows-k to retrieve. Take care, Takis
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Is there a key command for inserting a bookmark?
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Hi John,
I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab.
When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the letter b until you land on the one you want.
Cheers,
Ed
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Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
However, that is just for one, temporary marker. Alt+n then k allows you to add multiple bookmarks with separate names in Word documents, and control+g, shift+tab to the list, press b, for Bookmark, tab and either select or type in the name then press alt+g, followed by escape to land on your chosen bookmark.
Lots of keystrokes, but if you want to have multiple bookmarks in a very long document, it works well.
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 11:44 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document
Yes Tom, cntrl-windows-k to insert, alt-windows-k to retrieve. Take care, Takis
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Is there a key command for inserting a bookmark?
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Edward Green
Hi John,
I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab.
When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the letter b until you land on the one you want.
Cheers,
Ed
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Yes Tom, cntrl-windows-k to insert, alt-windows-k to retrieve. Take care, Takis
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 10:40 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document
Is there a key command for inserting a bookmark?
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Hi John,
I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab.
When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the letter b until you land on the one you want.
Cheers,
Ed
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Ann Byrne
Shift+f5 is supposed to do that, but it almost never works for me.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 5:12 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document
What version of Word are you using? I know that Word 2016 has a feature that will remember where you left off in a Word document the next time you open it. I get the prompt about whether I want to do this all the time. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it. |
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Tom Behler
Thanks, Ann.
This is very helpful, and cvlarifies things nicely.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 5:50 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document
That sounds like temporary placemarkers, not bookmarks. Bookmarks are a Word function, and placemarkers are JFW.
To set a bookmark, press alt-n, then k. Name the bookmark and press enter. You can have tons of bookmarks in a document, but each one needs a unique name.
To move to a bookmark you have set, press ctrl+g (goto), Shift+tab to the list of options which will have ‘page’ at the top, and arrow down to book marks. Press tab, and Word will list your bookmarks in a combo box that JAWS may or may not read, and you can move to the one you want. If JAWS doesn’t read the list, which it didn’t for me, press the first letter of the bookmark and that seems to wake it up. |
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Mike B.
Hi Ann,
Thank you for the correction I'll save this for future
use and reference..
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet. ----- Original Message -----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document That sounds like temporary placemarkers, not bookmarks. Bookmarks are a Word function, and placemarkers are JFW.
To set a bookmark, press alt-n, then k. Name the bookmark and press enter. You can have tons of bookmarks in a document, but each one needs a unique name.
To move to a bookmark you have set, press ctrl+g (goto), Shift+tab to the list of options which will have ‘page’ at the top, and arrow down to book marks. Press tab, and Word will list your bookmarks in a combo box that JAWS may or may not read, and you can move to the one you want. If JAWS doesn’t read the list, which it didn’t for me, press the first letter of the bookmark and that seems to wake it up. |
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What version of Word are you using? I know that Word 2016 has a feature that will remember where you left off in a Word document the next time you open it. I get the prompt about whether I want to do this all the time.
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it. |
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Ann Byrne
That sounds like temporary placemarkers, not bookmarks. Bookmarks are a Word function, and placemarkers are JFW.
To set a bookmark, press alt-n, then k. Name the bookmark and press enter. You can have tons of bookmarks in a document, but each one needs a unique name.
To move to a bookmark you have set, press ctrl+g (goto), Shift+tab to the list of options which will have ‘page’ at the top, and arrow down to book marks. Press tab, and Word will list your bookmarks in a combo box that JAWS may or may not read, and you can move to the one you want. If JAWS doesn’t read the list, which it didn’t for me, press the first letter of the bookmark and that seems to wake it up. |
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Mike B.
Hi Tom,
Here's a better explanation from Takis.
It’s a daily routine for me working with long word documents. What I am doing is set a bookmark by hitting cntrl-windows-k, jaws will tell you “marking has been set” or something like that. Once you return to your text, just hit alt-windows-k, and you will be returned back to where you left. Just be mindful that this is a onetime bookmark, i.e., it is unique as to where you set it for the last time. It keeps no track of previous ones.
Hope this helps,
Takis
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet. ----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document And, am I correct in that you can only set one bookmark at a time, and that previous bookmarks earlier in the document are not preserved??
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Mike B
Yes, control, Windows key + K.
----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Behler Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document
Is there a key command for inserting a bookmark?
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Edward Green
Hi John,
I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab.
When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the letter b until you land on the one you want.
Cheers,
Ed
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Mike B.
Yes, I believe so.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet. ----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document And, am I correct in that you can only set one bookmark at a time, and that previous bookmarks earlier in the document are not preserved??
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Mike B
Yes, control, Windows key + K.
----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Behler Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document
Is there a key command for inserting a bookmark?
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Edward Green
Hi John,
I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab.
When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the letter b until you land on the one you want.
Cheers,
Ed
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Tom Behler
And, am I correct in that you can only set one bookmark at a time, and that previous bookmarks earlier in the document are not preserved??
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 4:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document
Yes, control, Windows key + K.
----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Behler Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document
Is there a key command for inserting a bookmark?
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Hi John,
I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab.
When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the letter b until you land on the one you want.
Cheers,
Ed
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Mike B.
Yes, control, Windows key + K.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet. ----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document Is there a key command for inserting a bookmark?
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Edward Green
Hi John,
I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab.
When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the letter b until you land on the one you want.
Cheers,
Ed
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Mike B.
You can also use the status line keystroke, Insert + pagedown,
to read the line and page number if your status line is set to read this
information.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet. ----- Original Message -----
From: John Doering
Cc: doering@...
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document Thanks everyone for your responses.
Regards,
John Doering Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
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On Behalf Of Edward Green
Hi John,
I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab.
When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the letter b until you land on the one you want.
Cheers,
Ed
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Tom Behler
Is there a key command for inserting a bookmark?
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 1:56 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document
Hi John,
I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab.
When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the letter b until you land on the one you want.
Cheers,
Ed
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John Doering
Thanks, exactly what I was looking for.
Regards,
John Doering Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 2:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document
Hi John/all, It’s a daily routine for me working with long word documents. What I am doing is set a bookmark by hitting cntrl-windows-k, jaws will tell you “marking has been set” or something like that. Once you return to your text, just hit alt-windows-k, and you will be returned back to where you left. Just be mindful that this is a onetime bookmark, i.e., it is unique as to where you set it for the last time. It keeps no track of previous ones. Hope this helps, Takis
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Edward Green
Hi John,
I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab.
When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the letter b until you land on the one you want.
Cheers,
Ed
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Hi John/all, It’s a daily routine for me working with long word documents. What I am doing is set a bookmark by hitting cntrl-windows-k, jaws will tell you “marking has been set” or something like that. Once you return to your text, just hit alt-windows-k, and you will be returned back to where you left. Just be mindful that this is a onetime bookmark, i.e., it is unique as to where you set it for the last time. It keeps no track of previous ones. Hope this helps, Takis
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 8:56 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document
Hi John,
I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab.
When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the letter b until you land on the one you want.
Cheers,
Ed
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John Doering
Thanks everyone for your responses.
Regards,
John Doering Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Edward Green
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 12:56 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document
Hi John,
I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab.
When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the letter b until you land on the one you want.
Cheers,
Ed
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Edward Green
Hi John,
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I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab. When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the letter b until you land on the one you want. Cheers, Ed
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