moderated application mode


Justin Williams
 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


Adrian Spratt
 

If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

>If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


Jessica D <jldail13@...>
 

Hi,
My apologies, but what's "application mode?" 
I've never heard of it until now. 
 

Regards,
Jessica

On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Jessica,

There is no need to apologize as this is a good question as this is something that many users will encounter with no explanation as to why it is happening. I'm going to paste a response to this question that I found from the JFW list from four years ago from Aaron Page, as I do like his explanation. I'll just add that pressing the PC cursor key twice is an easier way to exit application mode than pressing insert-z twice, which is what he learned to do at the time of his response. Here is his message.


Hi Ann,

Application Mode is a mode that JAWS will enter when it begins to interact with a web application. Application Mode is designed to treat the web application as if it were a typical Windows-based program, and not as a web page. The advantage to this is that application-specific keyboard shortcuts will work without the need to use the JAWS pass-through, the disadvantage is that typical JAWS keyboard shortcuts (i.e. "H" for headings, "B" for buttons) will not work as these keystrokes are now being passed through JAWS to the application.

When using web applications that trigger JAWS' Application Mode, it is usually very helpful to learn keyboard shortcuts that are specific to the application in order to effectively navigate and use the application. You should also have some success (if the application is accessible) navigating the web application using tab and the arrow keys.

You can usually tell that you are entering an application as JAWS will announce "Application", and upon pressing Enter you should hear JAWS beep as if it just entered a form. The most frustrating thing about application mode (in my opinion) is the difficulty in getting back out of the application. I usually will press Insert+Z to set the Virtual PC Cursor to off, and then press Insert+Z again to turn the Virtual PC Cursor back on. After turning off and back on the Virtual PC Cursor you should again be able to use normal JAWS keyboard shortcuts. If anyone on-list knows a better way to exit applications mode, I would love to hear it.

You can practice using applications mode on this page: https://www.tinymce.com/. If you press "R" to move through the regions you will encounter the application region, at which point you can press Enter to enter applications mode and begin interacting with the application. This example is an HTML text editor called TinyMCE, which is a commonly used editor that uses an application region and is relatively accessible.

Hope this helps!

Regards,
Aaron M. Page, B.S.
EIT Accessibility Specialist
Accessible Technology Services, University of Montana

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,
My apologies, but what's "application mode?" 
I've never heard of it until now. 
 

Regards,
Jessica

On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Hi, again. Another example of this is the video player Comcast uses on their Xfinity Stream Web app. When you begin playing a TV program or a movie. JAWS goes into application mode when the player window opens as it's actually more beneficial to interact with the player in this mode than it is when using the virtual cursor. You can, of course, use the virtual cursor if you want to but application mode gives you some additional functionality. As an example, pressing up arrow or down arrow raises or lowers the volume, respectively. Pressing left arrow or right arrow moves backward or forward through the video, when applicable. Pressing M mutes or unmutes the audio, pressing the question mark key generates a list of shortcut keys, etc. If you had the virtual cursor enabled much of this functionality would not work unless you first press the pass-through hotkey before pressing one of these dedicated keys. In JAWS, the pass-through hotkey is insert-3, the 3 being on the row of numbers and not on the numeric keypad.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,
My apologies, but what's "application mode?" 
I've never heard of it until now. 
 

Regards,
Jessica

On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


Jessica D <jldail13@...>
 

Hi David,
Is there a way to enable this mode manually? 


Regards,
Jessica

On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:13 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:



Hi, again. Another example of this is the video player Comcast uses on their Xfinity Stream Web app. When you begin playing a TV program or a movie. JAWS goes into application mode when the player window opens as it's actually more beneficial to interact with the player in this mode than it is when using the virtual cursor. You can, of course, use the virtual cursor if you want to but application mode gives you some additional functionality. As an example, pressing up arrow or down arrow raises or lowers the volume, respectively. Pressing left arrow or right arrow moves backward or forward through the video, when applicable. Pressing M mutes or unmutes the audio, pressing the question mark key generates a list of shortcut keys, etc. If you had the virtual cursor enabled much of this functionality would not work unless you first press the pass-through hotkey before pressing one of these dedicated keys. In JAWS, the pass-through hotkey is insert-3, the 3 being on the row of numbers and not on the numeric keypad.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
My apologies, but what's "application mode?" 
I've never heard of it until now. 
 

Regards,
Jessica

On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


 

No, Jaws drops into application mode automatically if it detects a web application, as far as I know you can’t deliberately enable it.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: application mode

 

Hi David,

Is there a way to enable this mode manually? 

 

Regards,

Jessica



On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:13 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:



Hi, again. Another example of this is the video player Comcast uses on their Xfinity Stream Web app. When you begin playing a TV program or a movie. JAWS goes into application mode when the player window opens as it's actually more beneficial to interact with the player in this mode than it is when using the virtual cursor. You can, of course, use the virtual cursor if you want to but application mode gives you some additional functionality. As an example, pressing up arrow or down arrow raises or lowers the volume, respectively. Pressing left arrow or right arrow moves backward or forward through the video, when applicable. Pressing M mutes or unmutes the audio, pressing the question mark key generates a list of shortcut keys, etc. If you had the virtual cursor enabled much of this functionality would not work unless you first press the pass-through hotkey before pressing one of these dedicated keys. In JAWS, the pass-through hotkey is insert-3, the 3 being on the row of numbers and not on the numeric keypad.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

My apologies, but what's "application mode?" 

I've never heard of it until now. 

 

Regards,

Jessica



On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


Mike B.
 


Hi Sieghard,
 
I've never encountered Jaws going into application mode, but do you know in what version of Jaws this feature was first implemented?  Thanks much.  I'd like to know for the sake of saving notes with correct versions of Jaws.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: application mode

No, Jaws drops into application mode automatically if it detects a web application, as far as I know you can’t deliberately enable it.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: application mode

 

Hi David,

Is there a way to enable this mode manually? 

 

Regards,

Jessica



On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:13 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:



Hi, again. Another example of this is the video player Comcast uses on their Xfinity Stream Web app. When you begin playing a TV program or a movie. JAWS goes into application mode when the player window opens as it's actually more beneficial to interact with the player in this mode than it is when using the virtual cursor. You can, of course, use the virtual cursor if you want to but application mode gives you some additional functionality. As an example, pressing up arrow or down arrow raises or lowers the volume, respectively. Pressing left arrow or right arrow moves backward or forward through the video, when applicable. Pressing M mutes or unmutes the audio, pressing the question mark key generates a list of shortcut keys, etc. If you had the virtual cursor enabled much of this functionality would not work unless you first press the pass-through hotkey before pressing one of these dedicated keys. In JAWS, the pass-through hotkey is insert-3, the 3 being on the row of numbers and not on the numeric keypad.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

My apologies, but what's "application mode?" 

I've never heard of it until now. 

 

Regards,

Jessica



On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


Justin Williams
 

Okay, I thought I pressd it twice, and that didn't work, but it was late.

 

As you see, I got out of it in some interesting ways, but I'll try the double pc cursor method.

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: application mode

 

No, Jaws drops into application mode automatically if it detects a web application, as far as I know you can’t deliberately enable it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: application mode

 

Hi David,

Is there a way to enable this mode manually? 

 

Regards,

Jessica

 

On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:13 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:



Hi, again. Another example of this is the video player Comcast uses on their Xfinity Stream Web app. When you begin playing a TV program or a movie. JAWS goes into application mode when the player window opens as it's actually more beneficial to interact with the player in this mode than it is when using the virtual cursor. You can, of course, use the virtual cursor if you want to but application mode gives you some additional functionality. As an example, pressing up arrow or down arrow raises or lowers the volume, respectively. Pressing left arrow or right arrow moves backward or forward through the video, when applicable. Pressing M mutes or unmutes the audio, pressing the question mark key generates a list of shortcut keys, etc. If you had the virtual cursor enabled much of this functionality would not work unless you first press the pass-through hotkey before pressing one of these dedicated keys. In JAWS, the pass-through hotkey is insert-3, the 3 being on the row of numbers and not on the numeric keypad.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

My apologies, but what's "application mode?" 

I've never heard of it until now. 

 

Regards,

Jessica

 

On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


Mario
 

assuming the numlock is off, tap the numpad plus key twice quickly,
like this: tap tap.
tap, tap is not going to work.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Justin Williams [mailto:justin.williams2@gmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2020, 1:18 PM
Subject: application mode
Okay, I thought I pressd it twice, and that didn't work, but it was late.

As you see, I got out of it in some interesting ways, but I'll try the
double pc cursor method.

Thanks,

Justin

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:25 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: application mode

No, Jaws drops into application mode automatically if it detects a web
application, as far as I know you can’t deliberately enable it.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Jessica D
*Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:21 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: application mode

Hi David,

Is there a way to enable this mode manually?

Regards,

Jessica

On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:13 AM, David Goldfield
<david.goldfield@outlook.com <mailto:david.goldfield@outlook.com>>
wrote:



Hi, again. Another example of this is the video player Comcast uses
on their Xfinity Stream <https://www.xfinity.com/stream>Web app.
When you begin playing a TV program or a movie. JAWS goes into
application mode when the player window opens as it's actually more
beneficial to interact with the player in this mode than it is when
using the virtual cursor. You can, of course, use the virtual cursor
if you want to but application mode gives you some additional
functionality. As an example, pressing up arrow or down arrow raises
or lowers the volume, respectively. Pressing left arrow or right
arrow moves backward or forward through the video, when applicable.
Pressing M mutes or unmutes the audio, pressing the question mark
key generates a list of shortcut keys, etc. If you had the virtual
cursor enabled much of this functionality would not work unless you
first press the pass-through hotkey before pressing one of these
dedicated keys. In JAWS, the pass-through hotkey is insert-3, the 3
being on the row of numbers and not on the numeric keypad.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019



WWW.DavidGoldfield.org <http://WWW.DavidGoldfield.org>

On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

My apologies, but what's "application mode?"

I've never heard of it until now.

Regards,

Jessica

On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield
<david.goldfield@outlook.com>
<mailto:david.goldfield@outlook.com> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of
applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice
quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice
quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual
cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming
this is happening on a Web page.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *On
Behalf Of *Justin Williams
*Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* application mode

Had an issue today with application mode.

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I
couldn't get out of application mode.

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was
uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used
rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling
up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way
of working with that…

Thanks,

Justin