moderated Typability From yesaccessibility.com
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James Malone
$150.00.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 9:12 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com
How much does this product cost?
Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Malone
The one good thing about David Pinto is that he makes this program fun and rewarding in its own way. He spends thousands of hours perfecting his scripts, and will provide help and documentation for his work. And most important, he’ll make it work with Jaws, not no silly animation such as Talking Typing Teacher.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Certainly agree with your principle Glenn … though I am not sure it’s always entirely wrong to profit from a niche market like the disabled, certainly the entire model should be different and it’s ridiculous that the costs for some of these blindness-related products is so inflated.
I don’t know anything about typing tutorials nowadays, but I certainly remember some on disk for the Apple II computer. In the mid/late 80s when I was using the things, they were already old and I think most software was already in the public domain or close to. There were a few fun typing games … one that was kind of like space invaders and made use of the limited Apple speaker sound capability as well as the Echo speech synthesiser, whose pitch would increase as the letters got “closer” to you. Fun times. Haha
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Honestly, typing is one of the most important skills lacking in the Blind. Mostly among the newly Blind. However, with that in mind, in my opinion, I would state that it is despicable to make profit off a typing program designed for the Blind. I think makers of software for the Blind, or other disabilities if it exists, need to stop making a living off the backs of the disabled, and spearhead an open-source movement for specialized software for the disabled, and get a real job. It will always be a small market and the cost will always be ten to twenty times the cost to the consumer of similar software, to the general public because of its limited market. That is why the rehabilitation-specific software that state agencies purchase cost a couple million dollars per agency and about a third of a million annually to maintain it, for a product that by standards of complexity could otherwise easily be done as open-source software. I have a degree in business management, so it's not like I don't understand how business works. And I find it even worse when the disabled themselves engage in profiting off their brothers and sisters, especially when they have or still do exist on a disability-related income. But to my original point, there needs to be an open-source typing program designed for the Blind, because a good one would incorporate some screenreader keyboard commands, Fun With Typability does this, I don't recall if TTT does, it's been a long time since I taught with that one. So they are decent products in terms of what is needed, they only need to be free to consumers. Perhaps they should operate like some programs do, free for home use, and a cost for business use.
Glenn
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Mario
$150. the $30 discount only applies if you opted for the free JAWS offer until June 30, at which time the Typability will also expire. the discounted offer for Typability only works with the free offer for JAWS. they are working on a version of Typability that will work with non expiring versions of JAWS, but even then the Typability will expire on June 30. so the price for Typability is still and will always be $150.
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From: Tim Ford [mailto:ttford@gmail.com] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Friday, March 27, 2020, 12:12 PM Subject: Typability From yesaccessibility.com How much does this product cost? ** *Tim Ford* ** *From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *James Malone *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2020 10:50 AM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com The one good thing about David Pinto is that he makes this program fun and rewarding in its own way. He spends thousands of hours perfecting his scripts, and will provide help and documentation for his work. And most important, he’ll make it work with Jaws, not no silly animation such as Talking Typing Teacher. *From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *JM Casey *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:41 AM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com Certainly agree with your principle Glenn … though I am not sure it’s always entirely wrong to profit from a niche market like the disabled, certainly the entire model should be different and it’s ridiculous that the costs for some of these blindness-related products is so inflated. I don’t know anything about typing tutorials nowadays, but I certainly remember some on disk for the Apple II computer. In the mid/late 80s when I was using the things, they were already old and I think most software was already in the public domain or close to. There were a few fun typing games … one that was kind of like space invaders and made use of the limited Apple speaker sound capability as well as the Echo speech synthesiser, whose pitch would increase as the letters got “closer” to you. Fun times. Haha *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Glenn / Lenny *Sent:* March 26, 2020 11:26 AM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com Honestly, typing is one of the most important skills lacking in the Blind. Mostly among the newly Blind. However, with that in mind, in my opinion, I would state that it is despicable to make profit off a typing program designed for the Blind. I think makers of software for the Blind, or other disabilities if it exists, need to stop making a living off the backs of the disabled, and spearhead an open-source movement for specialized software for the disabled, and get a real job. It will always be a small market and the cost will always be ten to twenty times the cost to the consumer of similar software, to the general public because of its limited market. That is why the rehabilitation-specific software that state agencies purchase cost a couple million dollars per agency and about a third of a million annually to maintain it, for a product that by standards of complexity could otherwise easily be done as open-source software. I have a degree in business management, so it's not like I don't understand how business works. And I find it even worse when the disabled themselves engage in profiting off their brothers and sisters, especially when they have or still do exist on a disability-related income. But to my original point, there needs to be an open-source typing program designed for the Blind, because a good one would incorporate some screenreader keyboard commands, Fun With Typability does this, I don't recall if TTT does, it's been a long time since I taught with that one. So they are decent products in terms of what is needed, they only need to be free to consumers. Perhaps they should operate like some programs do, free for home use, and a cost for business use. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- *From:*James Malone <mailto:malone_j@comcast.net> *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Sent:*Thursday, March 26, 2020 2:14 AM *Subject:*Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com To be honest with you, I would have to agree. Talking Typing Teacher although it is very helpful for training, I find that The company that created the program isn’t helpful to its clients, and don’t let your system break down. You will have to perches the program again, meaning that you can only use it for the life of your hard drive. A lot of people don’t know this. You are allowed to download the software three times, but anything after three times you get no reset codes, and unless you buy directly from them they will not honor anyone buying outside of their company. Stores like Maxi aides or an on-line company that sell their product cannot make any decisions to reset your three activations. Now, I’ve had dealings with the creator of the scripts, and decided to move my clients over to Fun with Typability, because it’s set up for the Jaws user. They will work with you as well when it comes down to helpful hints and training methods. James *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Feliciano G *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:00 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com Hi? This is a great program! Many people that I trained with it loved it over talking typing teacher. All you get is if you sessions for free with the demo. After those sessions have been used, the program is not usable until you purchase a license. Feliciano For tech tips and updates: LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v <http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v> Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v <http://www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@outlook.com <mailto:THAB0.BASEKI@outlook.com>> wrote: Hi friends! I’d love to train some people using the above mentioned program. In a demo version, do I use it 15 times and that’s it? Has anyone used it before? I do not know if my question is clear, if not, please dear friends let me know. Thank you! Best Thabo JAWS certified-2020 http://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/Certification
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Tim Ford
How much does this product cost?
Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Malone
The one good thing about David Pinto is that he makes this program fun and rewarding in its own way. He spends thousands of hours perfecting his scripts, and will provide help and documentation for his work. And most important, he’ll make it work with Jaws, not no silly animation such as Talking Typing Teacher.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Certainly agree with your principle Glenn … though I am not sure it’s always entirely wrong to profit from a niche market like the disabled, certainly the entire model should be different and it’s ridiculous that the costs for some of these blindness-related products is so inflated.
I don’t know anything about typing tutorials nowadays, but I certainly remember some on disk for the Apple II computer. In the mid/late 80s when I was using the things, they were already old and I think most software was already in the public domain or close to. There were a few fun typing games … one that was kind of like space invaders and made use of the limited Apple speaker sound capability as well as the Echo speech synthesiser, whose pitch would increase as the letters got “closer” to you. Fun times. Haha
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Honestly, typing is one of the most important skills lacking in the Blind. Mostly among the newly Blind. However, with that in mind, in my opinion, I would state that it is despicable to make profit off a typing program designed for the Blind. I think makers of software for the Blind, or other disabilities if it exists, need to stop making a living off the backs of the disabled, and spearhead an open-source movement for specialized software for the disabled, and get a real job. It will always be a small market and the cost will always be ten to twenty times the cost to the consumer of similar software, to the general public because of its limited market. That is why the rehabilitation-specific software that state agencies purchase cost a couple million dollars per agency and about a third of a million annually to maintain it, for a product that by standards of complexity could otherwise easily be done as open-source software. I have a degree in business management, so it's not like I don't understand how business works. And I find it even worse when the disabled themselves engage in profiting off their brothers and sisters, especially when they have or still do exist on a disability-related income. But to my original point, there needs to be an open-source typing program designed for the Blind, because a good one would incorporate some screenreader keyboard commands, Fun With Typability does this, I don't recall if TTT does, it's been a long time since I taught with that one. So they are decent products in terms of what is needed, they only need to be free to consumers. Perhaps they should operate like some programs do, free for home use, and a cost for business use.
Glenn
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James Malone
The one good thing about David Pinto is that he makes this program fun and rewarding in its own way. He spends thousands of hours perfecting his scripts, and will provide help and documentation for his work. And most important, he’ll make it work with Jaws, not no silly animation such as Talking Typing Teacher.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:41 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com
Certainly agree with your principle Glenn … though I am not sure it’s always entirely wrong to profit from a niche market like the disabled, certainly the entire model should be different and it’s ridiculous that the costs for some of these blindness-related products is so inflated.
I don’t know anything about typing tutorials nowadays, but I certainly remember some on disk for the Apple II computer. In the mid/late 80s when I was using the things, they were already old and I think most software was already in the public domain or close to. There were a few fun typing games … one that was kind of like space invaders and made use of the limited Apple speaker sound capability as well as the Echo speech synthesiser, whose pitch would increase as the letters got “closer” to you. Fun times. Haha
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Honestly, typing is one of the most important skills lacking in the Blind. Mostly among the newly Blind. However, with that in mind, in my opinion, I would state that it is despicable to make profit off a typing program designed for the Blind. I think makers of software for the Blind, or other disabilities if it exists, need to stop making a living off the backs of the disabled, and spearhead an open-source movement for specialized software for the disabled, and get a real job. It will always be a small market and the cost will always be ten to twenty times the cost to the consumer of similar software, to the general public because of its limited market. That is why the rehabilitation-specific software that state agencies purchase cost a couple million dollars per agency and about a third of a million annually to maintain it, for a product that by standards of complexity could otherwise easily be done as open-source software. I have a degree in business management, so it's not like I don't understand how business works. And I find it even worse when the disabled themselves engage in profiting off their brothers and sisters, especially when they have or still do exist on a disability-related income. But to my original point, there needs to be an open-source typing program designed for the Blind, because a good one would incorporate some screenreader keyboard commands, Fun With Typability does this, I don't recall if TTT does, it's been a long time since I taught with that one. So they are decent products in terms of what is needed, they only need to be free to consumers. Perhaps they should operate like some programs do, free for home use, and a cost for business use.
Glenn
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JM Casey
Certainly agree with your principle Glenn … though I am not sure it’s always entirely wrong to profit from a niche market like the disabled, certainly the entire model should be different and it’s ridiculous that the costs for some of these blindness-related products is so inflated.
I don’t know anything about typing tutorials nowadays, but I certainly remember some on disk for the Apple II computer. In the mid/late 80s when I was using the things, they were already old and I think most software was already in the public domain or close to. There were a few fun typing games … one that was kind of like space invaders and made use of the limited Apple speaker sound capability as well as the Echo speech synthesiser, whose pitch would increase as the letters got “closer” to you. Fun times. Haha
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: March 26, 2020 11:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com
Honestly, typing is one of the most important skills lacking in the Blind. Mostly among the newly Blind. However, with that in mind, in my opinion, I would state that it is despicable to make profit off a typing program designed for the Blind. I think makers of software for the Blind, or other disabilities if it exists, need to stop making a living off the backs of the disabled, and spearhead an open-source movement for specialized software for the disabled, and get a real job. It will always be a small market and the cost will always be ten to twenty times the cost to the consumer of similar software, to the general public because of its limited market. That is why the rehabilitation-specific software that state agencies purchase cost a couple million dollars per agency and about a third of a million annually to maintain it, for a product that by standards of complexity could otherwise easily be done as open-source software. I have a degree in business management, so it's not like I don't understand how business works. And I find it even worse when the disabled themselves engage in profiting off their brothers and sisters, especially when they have or still do exist on a disability-related income. But to my original point, there needs to be an open-source typing program designed for the Blind, because a good one would incorporate some screenreader keyboard commands, Fun With Typability does this, I don't recall if TTT does, it's been a long time since I taught with that one. So they are decent products in terms of what is needed, they only need to be free to consumers. Perhaps they should operate like some programs do, free for home use, and a cost for business use.
Glenn
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Glenn / Lenny
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Honestly, typing is one of the most important
skills lacking in the Blind. Mostly among the newly Blind.
However, with that in mind, in my opinion, I would
state that it is despicable to make profit off a typing program designed for the
Blind.
I think makers of software for the Blind, or other
disabilities if it exists, need to stop making a living off the backs of the
disabled, and spearhead an open-source movement for specialized software for the
disabled, and get a real job.
It will always be a small market and the cost will
always be ten to twenty times the cost to the consumer of similar software, to
the general public because of its limited market.
That is why the rehabilitation-specific software
that state agencies purchase cost a couple million dollars per agency and about
a third of a million annually to maintain it, for a product that by standards of
complexity could otherwise easily be done as open-source software.
I have a degree in business management, so it's not
like I don't understand how business works. And I find it even worse when
the disabled themselves engage in profiting off their brothers and sisters,
especially when they have or still do exist on a disability-related
income.
But to my original point, there needs to be an
open-source typing program designed for the Blind, because a good one would
incorporate some screenreader keyboard commands, Fun With Typability does this,
I don't recall if TTT does, it's been a long time since I taught with that
one. So they are decent products in terms of what is needed, they only
need to be free to consumers. Perhaps they should operate like some
programs do, free for home use, and a cost for business use.
Glenn
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James Malone
To be honest with you, I would have to agree. Talking Typing Teacher although it is very helpful for training, I find that The company that created the program isn’t helpful to its clients, and don’t let your system break down. You will have to perches the program again, meaning that you can only use it for the life of your hard drive. A lot of people don’t know this. You are allowed to download the software three times, but anything after three times you get no reset codes, and unless you buy directly from them they will not honor anyone buying outside of their company. Stores like Maxi aides or an on-line company that sell their product cannot make any decisions to reset your three activations. Now, I’ve had dealings with the creator of the scripts, and decided to move my clients over to Fun with Typability, because it’s set up for the Jaws user. They will work with you as well when it comes down to helpful hints and training methods. James
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com
Hi? This is a great program! Many people that I trained with it loved it over talking typing teacher. All you get is if you sessions for free with the demo. After those sessions have been used, the program is not usable until you purchase a license. Feliciano For tech tips and updates: Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs
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Feliciano G
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This is a great program! Many people that I trained with it loved it over talking typing teacher. All you get is if you sessions for free with the demo. After those sessions have been used, the program is not usable until you purchase a license. Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs
On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@...> wrote:
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Jim Rawls
Thanks for this.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 3:49 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com this should be self explanatory, if mor info is needed, visit the webpage. The Typing and Computer Tutor Program for the Blind and Visually Impaired http://www.yesaccessible.com/typeability.html -------- Original Message -------- From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2020, 6:31 PM Subject: Typability From yesaccessibility.com Is this a scam? I tried going to yesaccessibility.com and it says there is no such page. What is this program, what does it do, and what is the correct website to learn about it? Thank you. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com *From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Thabo Baseki *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:45 PM *To:* jfw@groups.io *Subject:* Typability From yesaccessibility.com Hi friends! I'd love to train some people using the above mentioned program. In a demo version, do I use it 15 times and that's it? Has anyone used it before? I do not know if my question is clear, if not, please dear friends let me know. Thank you! Best Thabo JAWS certified-2020 http://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/Certifica tion
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Mario
this should be self explanatory, if mor info is needed, visit the webpage.
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The Typing and Computer Tutor Program for the Blind and Visually Impaired http://www.yesaccessible.com/typeability.html
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From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2020, 6:31 PM Subject: Typability From yesaccessibility.com Is this a scam? I tried going to yesaccessibility.com and it says there is no such page. What is this program, what does it do, and what is the correct website to learn about it? Thank you. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com *From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Thabo Baseki *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:45 PM *To:* jfw@groups.io *Subject:* Typability From yesaccessibility.com Hi friends! I’d love to train some people using the above mentioned program. In a demo version, do I use it 15 times and that’s it? Has anyone used it before? I do not know if my question is clear, if not, please dear friends let me know. Thank you! Best Thabo JAWS certified-2020 http://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/Certification
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Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Is this a scam? I tried going to
yesaccessibility.com
and it says there is no such page. What is this program, what does it do, and what is the correct website to learn about it?
Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Thabo Baseki
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:45 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Typability From yesaccessibility.com
Hi friends!
I’d love to train some people using the above mentioned program.
In a demo version, do I use it 15 times and that’s it? Has anyone used it before? I do not know if my question is clear, if not, please dear friends let me know.
Thank you!
Best Thabo
JAWS certified-2020 http://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/Certification
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Jessica D
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Yes it does. On an unrelated note, how did you learn all of the braille commands, so that you could become Jaws certified? Thanks, Jessica
On Mar 25, 2020, at 6:15 PM, Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@...> wrote:
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Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@...>
Oh! Okay. That’s a lot in my currency. Does the trial give access to all features?
JAWS certified-2020
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/Certification
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Jessica D <jldail13@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:57:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com Hi
Yes, you get a 14 day trial. After that, you must pay $150 if you want to license.
On Mar 25, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@...> wrote:
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Jessica D
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Yes, you get a 14 day trial. After that, you must pay $150 if you want to license.
On Mar 25, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@...> wrote:
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Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@...>
Hi friends!
I’d love to train some people using the above mentioned program.
In a demo version, do I use it 15 times and that’s it? Has anyone used it before? I do not know if my question is clear, if not, please dear friends let me know.
Thank you!
Best
Thabo
JAWS certified-2020
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/Certification
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