Moderated annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:
Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday
Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
I have noticed the same thing.
Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.
Regards,
John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
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Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:
Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday
Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
Hi,
Using office 365, I’m noticing that the word, “expanded” is spoken twice.
It will say what Al said, then it’ll say “expanded” again.
Definitely very annoying
Does anyone know of a fix?
Thanks,
Jesica
.
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
I have noticed the same thing.
Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.
Regards,
John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:
Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday
Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:
I have noticed the same thing.
Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.
Regards,
John Doering
Pricing AnalystOffice: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:
Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday
Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
Hi,
Yes, I find this feature helpful, so will probably leave it enabled, and wait for someone else to chime in.
Thanks,
Jessica
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.
I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.
If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.
On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:
I have noticed the same thing.
Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.
Regards,
John Doering
Pricing AnalystOffice: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.orgIndustries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:
Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday
Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
Any idea how to turn off that feature?
Would like to see how the messages arrange with it off.
Thanks,
John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
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Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.
I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.
If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.
On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:
I have noticed the same thing.
Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.
Regards,
John Doering
Pricing AnalystOffice: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:
Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday
Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
I’m back on my computer, press alt+v then a, v, w to turn off arrange by groups.
To turn it back on do the same.
HTH,
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Any idea how to turn off that feature?
Would like to see how the messages arrange with it off.
Thanks,
John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.
I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.
If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.
On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:
I have noticed the same thing.
Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.
Regards,
John Doering
Pricing AnalystOffice: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:
Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday
Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
Where exactly are you finding the word expanded?
In my list of mail box folders, mine say open or closed.
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hi,
Using office 365, I’m noticing that the word, “expanded” is spoken twice.
It will say what Al said, then it’ll say “expanded” again.
Definitely very annoying
Does anyone know of a fix?
Thanks,
Jesica
.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
I have noticed the same thing.
Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.
Regards,
John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:
Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday
Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
Hi,
If you arrow through your message list, you’ll hear exactly what I’m talking about.
Thanks,
Jessica
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.
I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.
If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.
On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:
I have noticed the same thing.
Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.
Regards,
John Doering
Pricing AnalystOffice: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.orgIndustries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:
Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday
Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
You must have your messages threaded by conversations, I don’t, so I never hear the word expanded.
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hi,
If you arrow through your message list, you’ll hear exactly what I’m talking about.
Thanks,
Jessica
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.
I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.
If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.
On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:
I have noticed the same thing.
Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.
Regards,
John Doering
Pricing AnalystOffice: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:
Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday
Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
Hi,
Yes, I do.
It makes life easier for me.
Thanks,
Jessica
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
You must have your messages threaded by conversations, I don’t, so I never hear the word expanded.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hi,
If you arrow through your message list, you’ll hear exactly what I’m talking about.
Thanks,
Jessica
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.
I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.
If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.
On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:
I have noticed the same thing.
Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.
Regards,
John Doering
Pricing AnalystOffice: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.orgIndustries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:
Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday
Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
My version, same, is having exact same issues. I am using 2019 version of Jaws until this is figured out. Thanks for all help...
Rick
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:
Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday
Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
Not working, are you sure this is correct?
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
I’m back on my computer, press alt+v then a, v, w to turn off arrange by groups.
To turn it back on do the same.
HTH,
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Any idea how to turn off that feature?
Would like to see how the messages arrange with it off.
Thanks,
John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.
I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.
If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.
On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:
I have noticed the same thing.
Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.
Regards,
John Doering
Pricing AnalystOffice: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.orgIndustries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:
Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday
Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
No, not threaded by messages...
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
You must have your messages threaded by conversations, I don’t, so I never hear the word expanded.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hi,
If you arrow through your message list, you’ll hear exactly what I’m talking about.
Thanks,
Jessica
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.
I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.
If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.
On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:
I have noticed the same thing.
Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.
Regards,
John Doering
Pricing AnalystOffice: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.orgIndustries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:
Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday
Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
Try this:
Alt then arrow over to view.
Arrow down, then tab to arrange by button and hit enter.
Tab to show in groups and uncheck with space bar.
This should kick you out and should be good.
I am using Windows 10, JAWS 2019, and Outlook 13 I believe.
HTH,
John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Not working, are you sure this is correct?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
I’m back on my computer, press alt+v then a, v, w to turn off arrange by groups.
To turn it back on do the same.
HTH,
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Any idea how to turn off that feature?
Would like to see how the messages arrange with it off.
Thanks,
John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.
I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.
If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.
On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:
I have noticed the same thing.
Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.
Regards,
John Doering
Pricing AnalystOffice: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:
Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday
Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
Same annoying issue here as well.
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
My version, same, is having exact same issues. I am using 2019 version of Jaws until this is figured out. Thanks for all help...
Rick
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:
Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday
Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
Hi,
What happens if you switch to windows 10 mail?
Thanks,
Jessica
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Same annoying issue here as well.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
My version, same, is having exact same issues. I am using 2019 version of Jaws until this is figured out. Thanks for all help...
Rick
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:
Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday
Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
Expanded usually occurs when conversation view is enabled.
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Where exactly are you finding the word expanded?
In my list of mail box folders, mine say open or closed.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hi,
Using office 365, I’m noticing that the word, “expanded” is spoken twice.
It will say what Al said, then it’ll say “expanded” again.
Definitely very annoying
Does anyone know of a fix?
Thanks,
Jesica
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
I have noticed the same thing.
Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:
Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday
Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al
Try this:
Alt then arrow over to view.
Arrow down, then tab to arrange by button and hit enter.
Tab to show in groups and uncheck with space bar.
This should kick you out and should be good.
I am using Windows 10, JAWS 2019, and Outlook 13 I believe.
Just slightly quicker, ALT+V, AB, W (View Ribbon, Arrange By, Show in Groups) will toggle grouping on/off, depending on its current state. It saves a lot of tabbing and arrowing.
In Outlook 2016 this works precisely as you described. The default view, for decades now, has been Conversation view with Group by date. If folks had grouping off, then at some time in the distant past someone turned it off. It appears that this latest update turned it back on. This sort of settings switch on update has become increasingly rare over the last few years, but it still occasionally happens.
--
Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363
Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.
~ Joshua Liebman
I did uncheck the show in groups and the problem is now gone.
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hi,
What happens if you switch to windows 10 mail?
Thanks,
Jessica
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Same annoying issue here as well.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
My version, same, is having exact same issues. I am using 2019 version of Jaws until this is figured out. Thanks for all help...
Rick
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update
Hello,
Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:
Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday
Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?
Al