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moderated Elbraille 40?


Jessica D
 

Hi,
I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.

Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.

Thanks,

Jessica


Michael Munn
 

The El Braille 40 5 Generation is a very well made piece. I I have the opportunity to play with it during NFB Convention last year in Las Vegas NV and the size is a little big. That is the cons of the unit. The Pro of the El Braille 40 5th generation is that you can get a braille display along with 2 activation of Jaws. Unlike ElBraille 40 4th Generation, the El Braille display 5th generation is detachable from the docking Station. A user can take the Braille display with them.
Overall, This is a device that worth buying.
It is a little expensive though.

On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,
I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.

Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.

Thanks,

Jessica



Tyler Wood
 

Hi,
I have the Elbraille 14 and it is very well made. It is not the 40, but it is also detachable.
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 8:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

The El Braille 40 5 Generation is a very well made piece. I I have the opportunity to play with it during NFB Convention last year in Las Vegas NV and the size is a little big. That is the cons of the unit. The Pro of the El Braille 40 5th generation is that you can get a braille display along with 2 activation of Jaws. Unlike ElBraille 40 4th Generation, the El Braille display 5th generation is detachable from the docking Station. A user can take the Braille display with them.
Overall, This is a device that worth buying.
It is a little expensive though.
On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,
I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.

Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.

Thanks,

Jessica



Jessica D
 

Hi,
Thank you both for the info.
Can you use your microsoft account password, as your login password?
This is what I do currently.
I'm on the home annual license, and have activated 1 of my allowed 3 computers.

Thanks,
Jessica

On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...> wrote:

Hi,
I have the Elbraille 14 and it is very well made. It is not the 40, but it is also detachable.
Thanks


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 8:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

The El Braille 40 5 Generation is a very well made piece. I I have the opportunity to play with it during NFB Convention last year in Las Vegas NV and the size is a little big. That is the cons of the unit. The Pro of the El Braille 40 5th generation is that you can get a braille display along with 2 activation of Jaws. Unlike ElBraille 40 4th Generation, the El Braille display 5th generation is detachable from the docking Station. A user can take the Braille display with them.
Overall, This is a device that worth buying.
It is a little expensive though.
On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,
I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.

Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.

Thanks,

Jessica








Michael Munn
 

It is a Windows 10 computer being compacted in to a small box. You can do anything that used to do on a Windows 10 computer to ElBraille 40. Note Taker.

On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,
Thank you both for the info.
Can you use your microsoft account password, as your login password?
This is what I do currently.
I'm on the home annual license, and have activated 1 of my allowed 3 computers.

Thanks,
Jessica
On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...> wrote:

Hi,
I have the Elbraille 14 and it is very well made. It is not the 40, but it is also detachable.
Thanks


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 8:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

The El Braille 40 5 Generation is a very well made piece. I I have the opportunity to play with it during NFB Convention last year in Las Vegas NV and the size is a little big. That is the cons of the unit. The Pro of the El Braille 40 5th generation is that you can get a braille display along with 2 activation of Jaws. Unlike ElBraille 40 4th Generation, the El Braille display 5th generation is detachable from the docking Station. A user can take the Braille display with them.
Overall, This is a device that worth buying.
It is a little expensive though.
On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:
Hi,
I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.

Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.

Thanks,

Jessica









Jessica D
 

Hi,
Can I pair it to my iphone, for use as a braille display?
Thanks,
Jessica

On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:44 PM, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...> wrote:

It is a Windows 10 computer being compacted in to a small box. You can do anything that used to do on a Windows 10 computer to ElBraille 40. Note Taker.
On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,
Thank you both for the info.
Can you use your microsoft account password, as your login password?
This is what I do currently.
I'm on the home annual license, and have activated 1 of my allowed 3 computers.

Thanks,
Jessica
On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...> wrote:
Hi,
I have the Elbraille 14 and it is very well made. It is not the 40, but it is also detachable.
Thanks


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 8:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

The El Braille 40 5 Generation is a very well made piece. I I have the opportunity to play with it during NFB Convention last year in Las Vegas NV and the size is a little big. That is the cons of the unit. The Pro of the El Braille 40 5th generation is that you can get a braille display along with 2 activation of Jaws. Unlike ElBraille 40 4th Generation, the El Braille display 5th generation is detachable from the docking Station. A user can take the Braille display with them.
Overall, This is a device that worth buying.
It is a little expensive though.
On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:
Hi,
I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.

Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.

Thanks,

Jessica










Les Kriegler
 

Hi,

Because of the significant delays in release, even though ViSpero says it will be out any day, it raises questions as to what the issues are with the delay.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 9:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

The El Braille 40 5 Generation is a very well made piece. I I have the opportunity to play with it during NFB Convention last year in Las Vegas NV and the size is a little big. That is the cons of the unit. The Pro of the El Braille 40 5th generation is that you can get a braille display along with 2 activation of Jaws. Unlike ElBraille 40 4th Generation, the El Braille display 5th generation is detachable from the docking Station. A user can take the Braille display with them.
Overall, This is a device that worth buying.
It is a little expensive though.
On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,
I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.

Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.

Thanks,

Jessica



Michael Munn
 

I don't know whether you can connect the entire note taker and  use it as a Braille display, but you can detach the Braille display and use the braille  in conjunction with your iPhone.
Thanks for asking.
Best regards 
Michael  Munn 

JAWS Certified, 2019

Member: Virginia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Virginia 

www.nfbv.org

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind 

www.hadley.edu



On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:44 PM Michael Munn via Groups.Io <michaelrbms=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
It is a Windows 10 computer being compacted in to a small box. You can do anything that used to do on a Windows 10 computer to ElBraille 40. Note Taker.
> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Thank you both for the info.
> Can you use your microsoft account password, as your login password?
> This is what I do currently.
> I'm on the home annual license, and have activated 1 of my allowed 3 computers.
>
> Thanks,
> Jessica
>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have the Elbraille 14 and it is very well made. It is not the 40, but it is also detachable.
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 8:22 PM
>> To: main@jfw.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?
>>
>> The El Braille 40 5 Generation is a very well made piece. I I have the opportunity to play with it during NFB Convention last year in Las Vegas NV and the size is a little big. That is the cons of the unit. The Pro of the El Braille 40 5th generation is that you can get a braille display along with 2 activation of Jaws. Unlike ElBraille 40 4th Generation, the El Braille display 5th generation is detachable from the docking Station. A user can take the Braille display with them.
>> Overall, This is a device that worth buying.
>> It is a little expensive though.
>>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
>>> However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
>>> If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.
>>>
>>> Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
>>> I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jessica
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>




Jessica D
 

Hi,
Earlier, someone mentioned delays. 
Are there production delays? 
Is the elbraille 5th generation out? 
I keep checking the fs website, but last I saw, it said, "shippingin November." 
Thanks,
Jessica 
  


On Jan 8, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...> wrote:


I don't know whether you can connect the entire note taker and  use it as a Braille display, but you can detach the Braille display and use the braille  in conjunction with your iPhone.
Thanks for asking.
Best regards 
Michael  Munn 

JAWS Certified, 2019

Member: Virginia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Virginia 

www.nfbv.org

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind 

www.hadley.edu



On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:44 PM Michael Munn via Groups.Io <michaelrbms=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
It is a Windows 10 computer being compacted in to a small box. You can do anything that used to do on a Windows 10 computer to ElBraille 40. Note Taker.
> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Thank you both for the info.
> Can you use your microsoft account password, as your login password?
> This is what I do currently.
> I'm on the home annual license, and have activated 1 of my allowed 3 computers.
>
> Thanks,
> Jessica
>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have the Elbraille 14 and it is very well made. It is not the 40, but it is also detachable.
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 8:22 PM
>> To: main@jfw.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?
>>
>> The El Braille 40 5 Generation is a very well made piece. I I have the opportunity to play with it during NFB Convention last year in Las Vegas NV and the size is a little big. That is the cons of the unit. The Pro of the El Braille 40 5th generation is that you can get a braille display along with 2 activation of Jaws. Unlike ElBraille 40 4th Generation, the El Braille display 5th generation is detachable from the docking Station. A user can take the Braille display with them.
>> Overall, This is a device that worth buying.
>> It is a little expensive though.
>>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
>>> However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
>>> If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.
>>>
>>> Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
>>> I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jessica
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>




Les Kriegler
 

Hi Jessica,

If you check FS's site, you'll see that shipping is scheduled for this month. Back in October, the unit was supposed to be out in a matter of days. In November, the same statement was made on the FS OpenLine podcast. I have no idea as to what the issues are, as nobody has publicly indicated anything. I heard there was a parts issue, but that was supposed to have been resolved last September. The Focus 40 5 is definitely not out.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

Hi,
Earlier, someone mentioned delays.
Are there production delays?
Is the elbraille 5th generation out?
I keep checking the fs website, but last I saw, it said, "shippingin November."
Thanks,
Jessica





On Jan 8, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...> wrote:




I don't know whether you can connect the entire note taker and use it as a Braille display, but you can detach the Braille display and use the braille in conjunction with your iPhone.
Thanks for asking.
Best regards
Michael Munn


<http://www.freedomscientific.com/Certification>

Member: Virginia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Virginia

www.nfbv.org <http://www.nfbv.org>

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind


www.hadley.edu <http://www.hadley.edu>



On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:44 PM Michael Munn via Groups.Io <michaelrbms=gmail.com@groups.io <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io> > wrote:


It is a Windows 10 computer being compacted in to a small box. You can do anything that used to do on a Windows 10 computer to ElBraille 40. Note Taker.
> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Thank you both for the info.
> Can you use your microsoft account password, as your login password?
> This is what I do currently.
> I'm on the home annual license, and have activated 1 of my allowed 3 computers.
>
> Thanks,
> Jessica
>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@... <mailto:tcwood12@...> > wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have the Elbraille 14 and it is very well made. It is not the 40, but it is also detachable.
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Michael Munn
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 8:22 PM
>> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>> Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?
>>
>> The El Braille 40 5 Generation is a very well made piece. I I have the opportunity to play with it during NFB Convention last year in Las Vegas NV and the size is a little big. That is the cons of the unit. The Pro of the El Braille 40 5th generation is that you can get a braille display along with 2 activation of Jaws. Unlike ElBraille 40 4th Generation, the El Braille display 5th generation is detachable from the docking Station. A user can take the Braille display with them.
>> Overall, This is a device that worth buying.
>> It is a little expensive though.
>>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
>>> However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
>>> If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.
>>>
>>> Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
>>> I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jessica
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>


Richard Turner
 

OK, could someone who knows far more than I explain what the point is with this new device from FS?
 
ElBraille 40 V combines the flexibility of a modern mainstream computer running the Windows® 10 operating system with JAWS® and a 40-cell Braille display with a full Braille keyboard to offer a fully accessible compact solution. (JAWS and Braille display sold separately.

I copied the above from their web site. What is the point if you have to buy the Focus 40 blue and Jaws separately?
)




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:21 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegler01@...> wrote:

Hi Jessica,

If you check FS's site, you'll see that shipping is scheduled for this month.  Back in October, the unit was supposed to be out in a matter of days.  In November, the same statement was made on the FS OpenLine podcast.  I have no idea as to what the issues are, as nobody has publicly indicated anything.  I heard there was a parts issue, but that was supposed to have been resolved last September.  The Focus 40 5 is definitely not out.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

Hi,
Earlier, someone mentioned delays.
Are there production delays?
Is the elbraille 5th generation out?
I keep checking the fs website, but last I saw, it said, "shippingin November."
Thanks,
Jessica





   On Jan 8, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...> wrote:
   
   

   
   I don't know whether you can connect the entire note taker and  use it as a Braille display, but you can detach the Braille display and use the braille  in conjunction with your iPhone.
   Thanks for asking.
   Best regards
   Michael  Munn
   

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   On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:44 PM Michael Munn via Groups.Io <michaelrbms@... <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io> > wrote:
   

       It is a Windows 10 computer being compacted in to a small box. You can do anything that used to do on a Windows 10 computer to ElBraille 40. Note Taker.
       > On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
       >
       > Hi,
       > Thank you both for the info.
       > Can you use your microsoft account password, as your login password?
       > This is what I do currently.
       > I'm on the home annual license, and have activated 1 of my allowed 3 computers.
       >
       > Thanks,
       > Jessica
       >> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@... <mailto:tcwood12@...> > wrote:
       >>
       >> Hi,
       >> I have the Elbraille 14 and it is very well made. It is not the 40, but it is also detachable.
       >> Thanks
       >>
       >>
       >> -----Original Message-----
       >> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Michael Munn
       >> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 8:22 PM
       >> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
       >> Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?
       >>
       >> The El Braille 40 5 Generation is a very well made piece. I I have the opportunity to play with it during NFB Convention last year in Las Vegas NV and the size is a little big. That is the cons of the unit. The Pro of the El Braille 40 5th generation is that you can get a braille display along with 2 activation of Jaws. Unlike ElBraille 40 4th Generation, the El Braille display 5th generation is detachable from the docking Station. A user can take the Braille display with them.
       >> Overall, This is a device that worth buying.
       >> It is a little expensive though.
       >>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
       >>>
       >>> Hi,
       >>> I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
       >>> However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
       >>> If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.
       >>>
       >>> Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
       >>> I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.
       >>>
       >>> Thanks,
       >>>
       >>> Jessica
       >>>
       >>>
       >>>
       >>
       >>
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Les Kriegler
 

Hi Richard,

I'll be glad to try and answer your question with the understanding that I know far less than you. If someone was in the market for a braille note taker, the idea is that you have an integrated unit, braille display and ElBraille unit which runs the Windows Operating System. So you could run Office 365, 2019, 2016 or 2013. Many have Jaws already, so one does not have to buy Jaws again. For those who don't have a Jaws license, it will be more expensive, I don't know the price of the bundle for the unit, Focus 40 Five and Jaws. In my case, if I purchase the ElBraille 5, I only need the unit as I already have Jaws and the Focus 5 display. Hope this helps.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

OK, could someone who knows far more than I explain what the point is with this new device from FS?

ElBraille 40 V combines the flexibility of a modern mainstream computer running the Windows® 10 operating system with JAWS® and a 40-cell Braille display with a full Braille keyboard to offer a fully accessible compact solution. (JAWS and Braille display sold separately.

I copied the above from their web site. What is the point if you have to buy the Focus 40 blue and Jaws separately?
)




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner



On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:21 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegler01@...> wrote:



Hi Jessica,

If you check FS's site, you'll see that shipping is scheduled for this month. Back in October, the unit was supposed to be out in a matter of days. In November, the same statement was made on the FS OpenLine podcast. I have no idea as to what the issues are, as nobody has publicly indicated anything. I heard there was a parts issue, but that was supposed to have been resolved last September. The Focus 40 5 is definitely not out.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

Hi,
Earlier, someone mentioned delays.
Are there production delays?
Is the elbraille 5th generation out?
I keep checking the fs website, but last I saw, it said, "shippingin November."
Thanks,
Jessica





On Jan 8, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...> wrote:




I don't know whether you can connect the entire note taker and use it as a Braille display, but you can detach the Braille display and use the braille in conjunction with your iPhone.
Thanks for asking.
Best regards
Michael Munn


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On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:44 PM Michael Munn via Groups.Io <michaelrbms=gmail.com@groups.io <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io> > wrote:


It is a Windows 10 computer being compacted in to a small box. You can do anything that used to do on a Windows 10 computer to ElBraille 40. Note Taker.
> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Thank you both for the info.
> Can you use your microsoft account password, as your login password?
> This is what I do currently.
> I'm on the home annual license, and have activated 1 of my allowed 3 computers.
>
> Thanks,
> Jessica
>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@... <mailto:tcwood12@...> > wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have the Elbraille 14 and it is very well made. It is not the 40, but it is also detachable.
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Michael Munn
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 8:22 PM
>> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>> Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?
>>
>> The El Braille 40 5 Generation is a very well made piece. I I have the opportunity to play with it during NFB Convention last year in Las Vegas NV and the size is a little big. That is the cons of the unit. The Pro of the El Braille 40 5th generation is that you can get a braille display along with 2 activation of Jaws. Unlike ElBraille 40 4th Generation, the El Braille display 5th generation is detachable from the docking Station. A user can take the Braille display with them.
>> Overall, This is a device that worth buying.
>> It is a little expensive though.
>>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
>>> However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
>>> If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.
>>>
>>> Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
>>> I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jessica
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>


Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

The idea is that once you put it all together, you have an all-in-one computer with braille keyboard, braille display and Windows. If such a thing could be had in such a way that it weren’t overpriced and underpowered, it would great all-in-one device for a lot of us.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

 

OK, could someone who knows far more than I explain what the point is with this new device from FS?

 

ElBraille 40 V combines the flexibility of a modern mainstream computer running the Windows® 10 operating system with JAWS® and a 40-cell Braille display with a full Braille keyboard to offer a fully accessible compact solution. (JAWS and Braille display sold separately.

 

I copied the above from their web site. What is the point if you have to buy the Focus 40 blue and Jaws separately?

)

 

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 



On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:21 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegler01@...> wrote:

Hi Jessica,

If you check FS's site, you'll see that shipping is scheduled for this month.  Back in October, the unit was supposed to be out in a matter of days.  In November, the same statement was made on the FS OpenLine podcast.  I have no idea as to what the issues are, as nobody has publicly indicated anything.  I heard there was a parts issue, but that was supposed to have been resolved last September.  The Focus 40 5 is definitely not out.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

Hi,
Earlier, someone mentioned delays.
Are there production delays?
Is the elbraille 5th generation out?
I keep checking the fs website, but last I saw, it said, "shippingin November."
Thanks,
Jessica





   On Jan 8, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...> wrote:
   
   

   
   I don't know whether you can connect the entire note taker and  use it as a Braille display, but you can detach the Braille display and use the braille  in conjunction with your iPhone.
   Thanks for asking.
   Best regards
   Michael  Munn
   

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   On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:44 PM Michael Munn via Groups.Io <michaelrbms@... <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io> > wrote:
   

       It is a Windows 10 computer being compacted in to a small box. You can do anything that used to do on a Windows 10 computer to ElBraille 40. Note Taker.
       > On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
       >
       > Hi,
       > Thank you both for the info.
       > Can you use your microsoft account password, as your login password?
       > This is what I do currently.
       > I'm on the home annual license, and have activated 1 of my allowed 3 computers.
       >
       > Thanks,
       > Jessica
       >> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@... <mailto:tcwood12@...> > wrote:
       >>
       >> Hi,
       >> I have the Elbraille 14 and it is very well made. It is not the 40, but it is also detachable.
       >> Thanks
       >>
       >>
       >> -----Original Message-----
       >> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Michael Munn
       >> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 8:22 PM
       >> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
       >> Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?
       >>
       >> The El Braille 40 5 Generation is a very well made piece. I I have the opportunity to play with it during NFB Convention last year in Las Vegas NV and the size is a little big. That is the cons of the unit. The Pro of the El Braille 40 5th generation is that you can get a braille display along with 2 activation of Jaws. Unlike ElBraille 40 4th Generation, the El Braille display 5th generation is detachable from the docking Station. A user can take the Braille display with them.
       >> Overall, This is a device that worth buying.
       >> It is a little expensive though.
       >>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
       >>>
       >>> Hi,
       >>> I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
       >>> However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
       >>> If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.
       >>>
       >>> Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
       >>> I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.
       >>>
       >>> Thanks,
       >>>
       >>> Jessica
       >>>
       >>>
       >>>
       >>
       >>
       >>
       >>
       >>
       >>
       >>
       >
       >
       >
       
       
       
       






Richard Turner
 

It is fascinating to me that their web site does not give any prices for the 14 or 40 version of this low-end Windows machine combo and if one follows the link to the place to purchase either one, you find a 404 page not found error.
I wouldn't be in the market anyway, but just curious.
I personally would rather have a full fledged laptop and a braille display but I guess I can understand the appeal to some with the extended battery life they claim.

O well, I'll shut up now on this topic.



Richard

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 5:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

Hi Richard,

I'll be glad to try and answer your question with the understanding that I know far less than you. If someone was in the market for a braille note taker, the idea is that you have an integrated unit, braille display and ElBraille unit which runs the Windows Operating System. So you could run Office 365, 2019, 2016 or 2013. Many have Jaws already, so one does not have to buy Jaws again. For those who don't have a Jaws license, it will be more expensive, I don't know the price of the bundle for the unit, Focus 40 Five and Jaws. In my case, if I purchase the ElBraille 5, I only need the unit as I already have Jaws and the Focus 5 display. Hope this helps.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

OK, could someone who knows far more than I explain what the point is with this new device from FS?

ElBraille 40 V combines the flexibility of a modern mainstream computer running the Windows® 10 operating system with JAWS® and a 40-cell Braille display with a full Braille keyboard to offer a fully accessible compact solution. (JAWS and Braille display sold separately.

I copied the above from their web site. What is the point if you have to buy the Focus 40 blue and Jaws separately?
)




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner



On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:21 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegler01@...> wrote:



Hi Jessica,

If you check FS's site, you'll see that shipping is scheduled for this month. Back in October, the unit was supposed to be out in a matter of days. In November, the same statement was made on the FS OpenLine podcast. I have no idea as to what the issues are, as nobody has publicly indicated anything. I heard there was a parts issue, but that was supposed to have been resolved last September. The Focus 40 5 is definitely not out.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

Hi,
Earlier, someone mentioned delays.
Are there production delays?
Is the elbraille 5th generation out?
I keep checking the fs website, but last I saw, it said, "shippingin November."
Thanks,
Jessica





On Jan 8, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...> wrote:




I don't know whether you can connect the entire note taker and use it as a Braille display, but you can detach the Braille display and use the braille in conjunction with your iPhone.
Thanks for asking.
Best regards
Michael Munn


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On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:44 PM Michael Munn via Groups.Io <michaelrbms=gmail.com@groups.io <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io> > wrote:


It is a Windows 10 computer being compacted in to a small box. You can do anything that used to do on a Windows 10 computer to ElBraille 40. Note Taker.
> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Thank you both for the info.
> Can you use your microsoft account password, as your login password?
> This is what I do currently.
> I'm on the home annual license, and have activated 1 of my allowed 3 computers.
>
> Thanks,
> Jessica
>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@... <mailto:tcwood12@...> > wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have the Elbraille 14 and it is very well made. It is not the 40, but it is also detachable.
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Michael Munn
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 8:22 PM
>> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>> Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?
>>
>> The El Braille 40 5 Generation is a very well made piece. I I have the opportunity to play with it during NFB Convention last year in Las Vegas NV and the size is a little big. That is the cons of the unit. The Pro of the El Braille 40 5th generation is that you can get a braille display along with 2 activation of Jaws. Unlike ElBraille 40 4th Generation, the El Braille display 5th generation is detachable from the docking Station. A user can take the Braille display with them.
>> Overall, This is a device that worth buying.
>> It is a little expensive though.
>>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
>>> However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
>>> If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.
>>>
>>> Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
>>> I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jessica
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>


Michael Munn
 

It would be definitely cheeper wwhen a user have both Jaws and a Focus 5. With those 2 units, all a user have to buy is is the docking Station. This is what Vispero offered to user who use a Focus 40 4 in early 2018. 
This is all i know.
Best regards 
Michael Munn 
 

JAWS Certified, 2019

Member: Virginia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Virginia 

www.nfbv.org

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind 

www.hadley.edu



On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 9:02 AM Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:
It is fascinating to me that their web site does not give any prices for the 14 or 40 version of this low-end Windows machine combo and if one follows the link to the place to purchase either one, you find a 404 page not found error.
I wouldn't be in the market anyway, but just curious.
I personally would rather have a full fledged laptop and a braille display but I guess I can understand the appeal to some with the extended battery life they claim.

O well, I'll shut up now on this topic.



Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 5:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

Hi Richard,

I'll be glad to try and answer your question with the understanding that I know far less than you.  If someone was in the market for a braille note taker, the idea is that you have an integrated unit, braille display and ElBraille unit which runs the Windows Operating System.  So you could run Office 365, 2019, 2016 or 2013.  Many have Jaws already, so one does not have to buy Jaws again.  For those who don't have a Jaws license, it will be more expensive, I don't know the price of the bundle for the unit, Focus 40 Five and Jaws.  In my case, if I purchase the ElBraille 5, I only need the unit as I already have Jaws and the Focus 5 display.  Hope this helps.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

OK, could someone who knows far more than I explain what the point is with this new device from FS?

ElBraille 40 V combines the flexibility of a modern mainstream computer running the Windows® 10 operating system with JAWS® and a 40-cell Braille display with a full Braille keyboard to offer a fully accessible compact solution. (JAWS and Braille display sold separately.

I copied the above from their web site. What is the point if you have to buy the Focus 40 blue and Jaws separately?
)




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
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        On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:21 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegler01@...> wrote:



        Hi Jessica,

        If you check FS's site, you'll see that shipping is scheduled for this month.  Back in October, the unit was supposed to be out in a matter of days.  In November, the same statement was made on the FS OpenLine podcast.  I have no idea as to what the issues are, as nobody has publicly indicated anything.  I heard there was a parts issue, but that was supposed to have been resolved last September.  The Focus 40 5 is definitely not out.

        Les

        -----Original Message-----
        From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
        Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:45 AM
        To: main@jfw.groups.io
        Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

        Hi,
        Earlier, someone mentioned delays.
        Are there production delays?
        Is the elbraille 5th generation out?
        I keep checking the fs website, but last I saw, it said, "shippingin November."
        Thanks,
        Jessica





           On Jan 8, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...> wrote:



           
           I don't know whether you can connect the entire note taker and  use it as a Braille display, but you can detach the Braille display and use the braille  in conjunction with your iPhone.
           Thanks for asking.
           Best regards
           Michael  Munn


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           On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:44 PM Michael Munn via Groups.Io <michaelrbms=gmail.com@groups.io <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io> > wrote:


               It is a Windows 10 computer being compacted in to a small box. You can do anything that used to do on a Windows 10 computer to ElBraille 40. Note Taker.
               > On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
               >
               > Hi,
               > Thank you both for the info.
               > Can you use your microsoft account password, as your login password?
               > This is what I do currently.
               > I'm on the home annual license, and have activated 1 of my allowed 3 computers.
               >
               > Thanks,
               > Jessica
               >> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@... <mailto:tcwood12@...> > wrote:
               >>
               >> Hi,
               >> I have the Elbraille 14 and it is very well made. It is not the 40, but it is also detachable.
               >> Thanks
               >>
               >>
               >> -----Original Message-----
               >> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Michael Munn
               >> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 8:22 PM
               >> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
               >> Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?
               >>
               >> The El Braille 40 5 Generation is a very well made piece. I I have the opportunity to play with it during NFB Convention last year in Las Vegas NV and the size is a little big. That is the cons of the unit. The Pro of the El Braille 40 5th generation is that you can get a braille display along with 2 activation of Jaws. Unlike ElBraille 40 4th Generation, the El Braille display 5th generation is detachable from the docking Station. A user can take the Braille display with them.
               >> Overall, This is a device that worth buying.
               >> It is a little expensive though.
               >>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
               >>>
               >>> Hi,
               >>> I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
               >>> However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
               >>> If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.
               >>>
               >>> Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
               >>> I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.
               >>>
               >>> Thanks,
               >>>
               >>> Jessica
               >>>
               >>>
               >>>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >
               >
               >





















Richard Turner
 

After this question, I promise I will shut up.

What is the price of the docking station/windows 10 box?

 

 

Richard

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 6:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

 

It would be definitely cheeper wwhen a user have both Jaws and a Focus 5. With those 2 units, all a user have to buy is is the docking Station. This is what Vispero offered to user who use a Focus 40 4 in early 2018. 

This is all i know.

Best regards 

Michael Munn 

 

It is fascinating to me that their web site does not give any prices for the 14 or 40 version of this low-end Windows machine combo and if one follows the link to the place to purchase either one, you find a 404 page not found error.
I wouldn't be in the market anyway, but just curious.
I personally would rather have a full fledged laptop and a braille display but I guess I can understand the appeal to some with the extended battery life they claim.

O well, I'll shut up now on this topic.



Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 5:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

Hi Richard,

I'll be glad to try and answer your question with the understanding that I know far less than you.  If someone was in the market for a braille note taker, the idea is that you have an integrated unit, braille display and ElBraille unit which runs the Windows Operating System.  So you could run Office 365, 2019, 2016 or 2013.  Many have Jaws already, so one does not have to buy Jaws again.  For those who don't have a Jaws license, it will be more expensive, I don't know the price of the bundle for the unit, Focus 40 Five and Jaws.  In my case, if I purchase the ElBraille 5, I only need the unit as I already have Jaws and the Focus 5 display.  Hope this helps.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

OK, could someone who knows far more than I explain what the point is with this new device from FS?

ElBraille 40 V combines the flexibility of a modern mainstream computer running the Windows® 10 operating system with JAWS® and a 40-cell Braille display with a full Braille keyboard to offer a fully accessible compact solution. (JAWS and Braille display sold separately.

I copied the above from their web site. What is the point if you have to buy the Focus 40 blue and Jaws separately?
)




Richard
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-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner



        On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:21 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegler01@...> wrote:



        Hi Jessica,

        If you check FS's site, you'll see that shipping is scheduled for this month.  Back in October, the unit was supposed to be out in a matter of days.  In November, the same statement was made on the FS OpenLine podcast.  I have no idea as to what the issues are, as nobody has publicly indicated anything.  I heard there was a parts issue, but that was supposed to have been resolved last September.  The Focus 40 5 is definitely not out.

        Les

        -----Original Message-----
        From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
        Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:45 AM
        To: main@jfw.groups.io
        Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

        Hi,
        Earlier, someone mentioned delays.
        Are there production delays?
        Is the elbraille 5th generation out?
        I keep checking the fs website, but last I saw, it said, "shippingin November."
        Thanks,
        Jessica





           On Jan 8, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...> wrote:



           
           I don't know whether you can connect the entire note taker and  use it as a Braille display, but you can detach the Braille display and use the braille  in conjunction with your iPhone.
           Thanks for asking.
           Best regards
           Michael  Munn


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           On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:44 PM Michael Munn via Groups.Io <michaelrbms=gmail.com@groups.io <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io> > wrote:


               It is a Windows 10 computer being compacted in to a small box. You can do anything that used to do on a Windows 10 computer to ElBraille 40. Note Taker.
               > On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
               >
               > Hi,
               > Thank you both for the info.
               > Can you use your microsoft account password, as your login password?
               > This is what I do currently.
               > I'm on the home annual license, and have activated 1 of my allowed 3 computers.
               >
               > Thanks,
               > Jessica
               >> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@... <mailto:tcwood12@...> > wrote:
               >>
               >> Hi,
               >> I have the Elbraille 14 and it is very well made. It is not the 40, but it is also detachable.
               >> Thanks
               >>
               >>
               >> -----Original Message-----
               >> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Michael Munn
               >> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 8:22 PM
               >> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
               >> Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?
               >>
               >> The El Braille 40 5 Generation is a very well made piece. I I have the opportunity to play with it during NFB Convention last year in Las Vegas NV and the size is a little big. That is the cons of the unit. The Pro of the El Braille 40 5th generation is that you can get a braille display along with 2 activation of Jaws. Unlike ElBraille 40 4th Generation, the El Braille display 5th generation is detachable from the docking Station. A user can take the Braille display with them.
               >> Overall, This is a device that worth buying.
               >> It is a little expensive though.
               >>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
               >>>
               >>> Hi,
               >>> I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
               >>> However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
               >>> If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.
               >>>
               >>> Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
               >>> I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.
               >>>
               >>> Thanks,
               >>>
               >>> Jessica
               >>>
               >>>
               >>>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >
               >
               >




















Michael Munn
 

I don't know about that. I can give Freedom a call and asking them real quick. For the ElBraille 40 4, A user have to send the unit in along with their Jaws Authorization code in to Freedom because ElBraille 40 4 don't come with a docking station. 
Thanks for asking.
Best regards 
Michael Munn 

JAWS Certified, 2019

Member: Virginia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Virginia 

www.nfbv.org

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind 

www.hadley.edu



On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 9:08 AM Michael Munn via Groups.Io <michaelrbms=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
It would be definitely cheeper wwhen a user have both Jaws and a Focus 5. With those 2 units, all a user have to buy is is the docking Station. This is what Vispero offered to user who use a Focus 40 4 in early 2018. 
This is all i know.
Best regards 
Michael Munn 
 

JAWS Certified, 2019

Member: Virginia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Virginia 

www.nfbv.org

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind 

www.hadley.edu



On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 9:02 AM Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:
It is fascinating to me that their web site does not give any prices for the 14 or 40 version of this low-end Windows machine combo and if one follows the link to the place to purchase either one, you find a 404 page not found error.
I wouldn't be in the market anyway, but just curious.
I personally would rather have a full fledged laptop and a braille display but I guess I can understand the appeal to some with the extended battery life they claim.

O well, I'll shut up now on this topic.



Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 5:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

Hi Richard,

I'll be glad to try and answer your question with the understanding that I know far less than you.  If someone was in the market for a braille note taker, the idea is that you have an integrated unit, braille display and ElBraille unit which runs the Windows Operating System.  So you could run Office 365, 2019, 2016 or 2013.  Many have Jaws already, so one does not have to buy Jaws again.  For those who don't have a Jaws license, it will be more expensive, I don't know the price of the bundle for the unit, Focus 40 Five and Jaws.  In my case, if I purchase the ElBraille 5, I only need the unit as I already have Jaws and the Focus 5 display.  Hope this helps.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

OK, could someone who knows far more than I explain what the point is with this new device from FS?

ElBraille 40 V combines the flexibility of a modern mainstream computer running the Windows® 10 operating system with JAWS® and a 40-cell Braille display with a full Braille keyboard to offer a fully accessible compact solution. (JAWS and Braille display sold separately.

I copied the above from their web site. What is the point if you have to buy the Focus 40 blue and Jaws separately?
)




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner



        On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:21 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegler01@...> wrote:



        Hi Jessica,

        If you check FS's site, you'll see that shipping is scheduled for this month.  Back in October, the unit was supposed to be out in a matter of days.  In November, the same statement was made on the FS OpenLine podcast.  I have no idea as to what the issues are, as nobody has publicly indicated anything.  I heard there was a parts issue, but that was supposed to have been resolved last September.  The Focus 40 5 is definitely not out.

        Les

        -----Original Message-----
        From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
        Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:45 AM
        To: main@jfw.groups.io
        Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

        Hi,
        Earlier, someone mentioned delays.
        Are there production delays?
        Is the elbraille 5th generation out?
        I keep checking the fs website, but last I saw, it said, "shippingin November."
        Thanks,
        Jessica





           On Jan 8, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...> wrote:



           
           I don't know whether you can connect the entire note taker and  use it as a Braille display, but you can detach the Braille display and use the braille  in conjunction with your iPhone.
           Thanks for asking.
           Best regards
           Michael  Munn


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           On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:44 PM Michael Munn via Groups.Io <michaelrbms=gmail.com@groups.io <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io> > wrote:


               It is a Windows 10 computer being compacted in to a small box. You can do anything that used to do on a Windows 10 computer to ElBraille 40. Note Taker.
               > On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
               >
               > Hi,
               > Thank you both for the info.
               > Can you use your microsoft account password, as your login password?
               > This is what I do currently.
               > I'm on the home annual license, and have activated 1 of my allowed 3 computers.
               >
               > Thanks,
               > Jessica
               >> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@... <mailto:tcwood12@...> > wrote:
               >>
               >> Hi,
               >> I have the Elbraille 14 and it is very well made. It is not the 40, but it is also detachable.
               >> Thanks
               >>
               >>
               >> -----Original Message-----
               >> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Michael Munn
               >> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 8:22 PM
               >> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
               >> Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?
               >>
               >> The El Braille 40 5 Generation is a very well made piece. I I have the opportunity to play with it during NFB Convention last year in Las Vegas NV and the size is a little big. That is the cons of the unit. The Pro of the El Braille 40 5th generation is that you can get a braille display along with 2 activation of Jaws. Unlike ElBraille 40 4th Generation, the El Braille display 5th generation is detachable from the docking Station. A user can take the Braille display with them.
               >> Overall, This is a device that worth buying.
               >> It is a little expensive though.
               >>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
               >>>
               >>> Hi,
               >>> I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
               >>> However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
               >>> If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.
               >>>
               >>> Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
               >>> I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.
               >>>
               >>> Thanks,
               >>>
               >>> Jessica
               >>>
               >>>
               >>>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >
               >
               >





















Jessica D
 

Hi,

If a 15-inch laptop fits into a backpack, can the Elbraille fit?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

 

I don't know about that. I can give Freedom a call and asking them real quick. For the ElBraille 40 4, A user have to send the unit in along with their Jaws Authorization code in to Freedom because ElBraille 40 4 don't come with a docking station. 

Thanks for asking.

Best regards 

Michael Munn 

 

It would be definitely cheeper wwhen a user have both Jaws and a Focus 5. With those 2 units, all a user have to buy is is the docking Station. This is what Vispero offered to user who use a Focus 40 4 in early 2018. 

 

It is fascinating to me that their web site does not give any prices for the 14 or 40 version of this low-end Windows machine combo and if one follows the link to the place to purchase either one, you find a 404 page not found error.
I wouldn't be in the market anyway, but just curious.
I personally would rather have a full fledged laptop and a braille display but I guess I can understand the appeal to some with the extended battery life they claim.

O well, I'll shut up now on this topic.



Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 5:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

Hi Richard,

I'll be glad to try and answer your question with the understanding that I know far less than you.  If someone was in the market for a braille note taker, the idea is that you have an integrated unit, braille display and ElBraille unit which runs the Windows Operating System.  So you could run Office 365, 2019, 2016 or 2013.  Many have Jaws already, so one does not have to buy Jaws again.  For those who don't have a Jaws license, it will be more expensive, I don't know the price of the bundle for the unit, Focus 40 Five and Jaws.  In my case, if I purchase the ElBraille 5, I only need the unit as I already have Jaws and the Focus 5 display.  Hope this helps.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

OK, could someone who knows far more than I explain what the point is with this new device from FS?

ElBraille 40 V combines the flexibility of a modern mainstream computer running the Windows® 10 operating system with JAWS® and a 40-cell Braille display with a full Braille keyboard to offer a fully accessible compact solution. (JAWS and Braille display sold separately.

I copied the above from their web site. What is the point if you have to buy the Focus 40 blue and Jaws separately?
)




Richard
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        On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:21 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegler01@...> wrote:



        Hi Jessica,

        If you check FS's site, you'll see that shipping is scheduled for this month.  Back in October, the unit was supposed to be out in a matter of days.  In November, the same statement was made on the FS OpenLine podcast.  I have no idea as to what the issues are, as nobody has publicly indicated anything.  I heard there was a parts issue, but that was supposed to have been resolved last September.  The Focus 40 5 is definitely not out.

        Les

        -----Original Message-----
        From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
        Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:45 AM
        To: main@jfw.groups.io
        Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

        Hi,
        Earlier, someone mentioned delays.
        Are there production delays?
        Is the elbraille 5th generation out?
        I keep checking the fs website, but last I saw, it said, "shippingin November."
        Thanks,
        Jessica





           On Jan 8, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...> wrote:



           
           I don't know whether you can connect the entire note taker and  use it as a Braille display, but you can detach the Braille display and use the braille  in conjunction with your iPhone.
           Thanks for asking.
           Best regards
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           On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:44 PM Michael Munn via Groups.Io <michaelrbms=gmail.com@groups.io <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io> > wrote:


               It is a Windows 10 computer being compacted in to a small box. You can do anything that used to do on a Windows 10 computer to ElBraille 40. Note Taker.
               > On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
               >
               > Hi,
               > Thank you both for the info.
               > Can you use your microsoft account password, as your login password?
               > This is what I do currently.
               > I'm on the home annual license, and have activated 1 of my allowed 3 computers.
               >
               > Thanks,
               > Jessica
               >> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@... <mailto:tcwood12@...> > wrote:
               >>
               >> Hi,
               >> I have the Elbraille 14 and it is very well made. It is not the 40, but it is also detachable.
               >> Thanks
               >>
               >>
               >> -----Original Message-----
               >> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Michael Munn
               >> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 8:22 PM
               >> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
               >> Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?
               >>
               >> The El Braille 40 5 Generation is a very well made piece. I I have the opportunity to play with it during NFB Convention last year in Las Vegas NV and the size is a little big. That is the cons of the unit. The Pro of the El Braille 40 5th generation is that you can get a braille display along with 2 activation of Jaws. Unlike ElBraille 40 4th Generation, the El Braille display 5th generation is detachable from the docking Station. A user can take the Braille display with them.
               >> Overall, This is a device that worth buying.
               >> It is a little expensive though.
               >>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
               >>>
               >>> Hi,
               >>> I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
               >>> However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
               >>> If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.
               >>>
               >>> Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
               >>> I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.
               >>>
               >>> Thanks,
               >>>
               >>> Jessica
               >>>
               >>>
               >>>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >>
               >
               >
               >




















Michael Munn
 

Yes It does. 

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Member: Virginia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Virginia 

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On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 11:19 AM Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,

If a 15-inch laptop fits into a backpack, can the Elbraille fit?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

 

I don't know about that. I can give Freedom a call and asking them real quick. For the ElBraille 40 4, A user have to send the unit in along with their Jaws Authorization code in to Freedom because ElBraille 40 4 don't come with a docking station. 

Thanks for asking.

Best regards 

Michael Munn 

 

It would be definitely cheeper wwhen a user have both Jaws and a Focus 5. With those 2 units, all a user have to buy is is the docking Station. This is what Vispero offered to user who use a Focus 40 4 in early 2018. 

 

It is fascinating to me that their web site does not give any prices for the 14 or 40 version of this low-end Windows machine combo and if one follows the link to the place to purchase either one, you find a 404 page not found error.
I wouldn't be in the market anyway, but just curious.
I personally would rather have a full fledged laptop and a braille display but I guess I can understand the appeal to some with the extended battery life they claim.

O well, I'll shut up now on this topic.



Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 5:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

Hi Richard,

I'll be glad to try and answer your question with the understanding that I know far less than you.  If someone was in the market for a braille note taker, the idea is that you have an integrated unit, braille display and ElBraille unit which runs the Windows Operating System.  So you could run Office 365, 2019, 2016 or 2013.  Many have Jaws already, so one does not have to buy Jaws again.  For those who don't have a Jaws license, it will be more expensive, I don't know the price of the bundle for the unit, Focus 40 Five and Jaws.  In my case, if I purchase the ElBraille 5, I only need the unit as I already have Jaws and the Focus 5 display.  Hope this helps.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

OK, could someone who knows far more than I explain what the point is with this new device from FS?

ElBraille 40 V combines the flexibility of a modern mainstream computer running the Windows® 10 operating system with JAWS® and a 40-cell Braille display with a full Braille keyboard to offer a fully accessible compact solution. (JAWS and Braille display sold separately.

I copied the above from their web site. What is the point if you have to buy the Focus 40 blue and Jaws separately?
)




Richard
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        On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:21 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegler01@...> wrote:



        Hi Jessica,

        If you check FS's site, you'll see that shipping is scheduled for this month.  Back in October, the unit was supposed to be out in a matter of days.  In November, the same statement was made on the FS OpenLine podcast.  I have no idea as to what the issues are, as nobody has publicly indicated anything.  I heard there was a parts issue, but that was supposed to have been resolved last September.  The Focus 40 5 is definitely not out.

        Les

        -----Original Message-----
        From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
        Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:45 AM
        To: main@jfw.groups.io
        Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

        Hi,
        Earlier, someone mentioned delays.
        Are there production delays?
        Is the elbraille 5th generation out?
        I keep checking the fs website, but last I saw, it said, "shippingin November."
        Thanks,
        Jessica





           On Jan 8, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...> wrote:



           
           I don't know whether you can connect the entire note taker and  use it as a Braille display, but you can detach the Braille display and use the braille  in conjunction with your iPhone.
           Thanks for asking.
           Best regards
           Michael  Munn


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           On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:44 PM Michael Munn via Groups.Io <michaelrbms=gmail.com@groups.io <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io> > wrote:


               It is a Windows 10 computer being compacted in to a small box. You can do anything that used to do on a Windows 10 computer to ElBraille 40. Note Taker.
               > On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
               >
               > Hi,
               > Thank you both for the info.
               > Can you use your microsoft account password, as your login password?
               > This is what I do currently.
               > I'm on the home annual license, and have activated 1 of my allowed 3 computers.
               >
               > Thanks,
               > Jessica
               >> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@... <mailto:tcwood12@...> > wrote:
               >>
               >> Hi,
               >> I have the Elbraille 14 and it is very well made. It is not the 40, but it is also detachable.
               >> Thanks
               >>
               >>
               >> -----Original Message-----
               >> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Michael Munn
               >> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 8:22 PM
               >> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
               >> Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?
               >>
               >> The El Braille 40 5 Generation is a very well made piece. I I have the opportunity to play with it during NFB Convention last year in Las Vegas NV and the size is a little big. That is the cons of the unit. The Pro of the El Braille 40 5th generation is that you can get a braille display along with 2 activation of Jaws. Unlike ElBraille 40 4th Generation, the El Braille display 5th generation is detachable from the docking Station. A user can take the Braille display with them.
               >> Overall, This is a device that worth buying.
               >> It is a little expensive though.
               >>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
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               >>> Hi,
               >>> I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
               >>> However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
               >>> If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.
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               >>> Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
               >>> I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.
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               >>> Thanks,
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               >>> Jessica
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Randy Meyer
 

I have an ElBraille 14. I have found it to be slow. It was affordable, as I already had Jaws, bought a used focus 14 display, and paid some where around $1,000 for the docking station. I agree that the battery life is great.

I recently purchased a mini laptop, the GDP Pocket for around $350 and pared it with a used focus 40 display I picked up at a reasonable price. It is faster. I found I needed to connect the display by cord, because Bluetooth was unreliable. I like that it gives me the option to use the small keyboard on the computer instead of the Braille display keyboard. I only do this when something stumps me for the correct Braille keyboard command. The downside is far less battery life, especially because the Braille display draws from the computer's battery before using it's own. I would say my battery life runs somewhere between 4 and 6 hours, depending on use, where the ElBraille is probably triple that.

Purchasing the ElBraille did force me to learn all of the Braille keyboard commands, which gave me the confidence to purchase the GDP Pocket and try it with a Braille display. I can put the ElBraille 14 in a jacket pocket or even a pants pocket, where I can not do that with a GDP Pocket with a 40-cell display.

I still use both machines depending on the convenience factor and computer power needed.

Randy Meyer

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

It is fascinating to me that their web site does not give any prices for the 14 or 40 version of this low-end Windows machine combo and if one follows the link to the place to purchase either one, you find a 404 page not found error.
I wouldn't be in the market anyway, but just curious.
I personally would rather have a full fledged laptop and a braille display but I guess I can understand the appeal to some with the extended battery life they claim.

O well, I'll shut up now on this topic.



Richard

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 5:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

Hi Richard,

I'll be glad to try and answer your question with the understanding that I know far less than you. If someone was in the market for a braille note taker, the idea is that you have an integrated unit, braille display and ElBraille unit which runs the Windows Operating System. So you could run Office 365, 2019, 2016 or 2013. Many have Jaws already, so one does not have to buy Jaws again. For those who don't have a Jaws license, it will be more expensive, I don't know the price of the bundle for the unit, Focus 40 Five and Jaws. In my case, if I purchase the ElBraille 5, I only need the unit as I already have Jaws and the Focus 5 display. Hope this helps.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

OK, could someone who knows far more than I explain what the point is with this new device from FS?

ElBraille 40 V combines the flexibility of a modern mainstream computer running the Windows® 10 operating system with JAWS® and a 40-cell Braille display with a full Braille keyboard to offer a fully accessible compact solution. (JAWS and Braille display sold separately.

I copied the above from their web site. What is the point if you have to buy the Focus 40 blue and Jaws separately?
)




Richard
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On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:21 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegler01@...> wrote:



Hi Jessica,

If you check FS's site, you'll see that shipping is scheduled for this month. Back in October, the unit was supposed to be out in a matter of days. In November, the same statement was made on the FS OpenLine podcast. I have no idea as to what the issues are, as nobody has publicly indicated anything. I heard there was a parts issue, but that was supposed to have been resolved last September. The Focus 40 5 is definitely not out.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?

Hi,
Earlier, someone mentioned delays.
Are there production delays?
Is the elbraille 5th generation out?
I keep checking the fs website, but last I saw, it said, "shippingin November."
Thanks,
Jessica





On Jan 8, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...> wrote:




I don't know whether you can connect the entire note taker and use it as a Braille display, but you can detach the Braille display and use the braille in conjunction with your iPhone.
Thanks for asking.
Best regards
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On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:44 PM Michael Munn via Groups.Io <michaelrbms=gmail.com@groups.io <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io> > wrote:


It is a Windows 10 computer being compacted in to a small box. You can do anything that used to do on a Windows 10 computer to ElBraille 40. Note Taker.
> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Thank you both for the info.
> Can you use your microsoft account password, as your login password?
> This is what I do currently.
> I'm on the home annual license, and have activated 1 of my allowed 3 computers.
>
> Thanks,
> Jessica
>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@... <mailto:tcwood12@...> > wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have the Elbraille 14 and it is very well made. It is not the 40, but it is also detachable.
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Michael Munn
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 8:22 PM
>> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>> Subject: Re: Elbraille 40?
>>
>> The El Braille 40 5 Generation is a very well made piece. I I have the opportunity to play with it during NFB Convention last year in Las Vegas NV and the size is a little big. That is the cons of the unit. The Pro of the El Braille 40 5th generation is that you can get a braille display along with 2 activation of Jaws. Unlike ElBraille 40 4th Generation, the El Braille display 5th generation is detachable from the docking Station. A user can take the Braille display with them.
>> Overall, This is a device that worth buying.
>> It is a little expensive though.
>>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I currently have a Braillenote touch+ from HumanWare.
>>> However, due to battery and other issues, I had to send it in for repair.
>>> If they can’t fix it, I’m considering purchasing an ElBraille 40.
>>>
>>> Does anyone on here have experience with these devices?
>>> I tired to connect my braillenote to my computer for use with jaws, but it failed.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jessica
>>>
>>>
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