moderated Jaws 2020


Don H
 

Does Jaws 2020 run just as well on a laptop running a AMD processor and graphics? Considering purchasing a HP Envy 360 15z laptop


Dan Longmore
 

Hi,
I have used JAWS on an AMD in the past and did not note any significant response difference. AMD's are not as good when it comes to updating drivers and the process it takes to do the update. Be sure whatever processor you choose that the video (graphics) chip and memory are sufficient. Again, this is my experience and others may differ. When talking with Vespiro tech support has told me that JAWS works fine on either system.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2019 5:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2020

Does Jaws 2020 run just as well on a laptop running a AMD processor and graphics? Considering purchasing a HP Envy 360 15z laptop


Chris Hill
 

Processor brand doesn't matter, it is the speed of the processor that matters.  There are some pretty fast AMD processors out there, but there are some laptop manufacturers that are happy to sell you something slow and cheap even though you will be miserable.  You can buy a brand new laptop today that will be slower than a 6-year-old mid-range desktop if you aren't careful.


Use the system section of control panel to find out what processor you have, then go here:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/


and search it out in the chart and get the speed.  Do the same with any new computer you are looking at.

On 12/7/2019 16:23, Don H wrote:
Does Jaws 2020 run just as well on a laptop running a AMD processor and graphics?  Considering purchasing a HP Envy 360 15z laptop



Gerald Levy
 

Be careful when evaluating processor speed.  My understanding is that AMD processors have only one core which means that even though an AMD processor  may be rated at a speed of say, 3.5 gHZ, it may not be as fast in real world use as a multicore Intel processor rated at the same speed.


Gerald

On 12/8/2019 10:32 AM, Chris Hill wrote:
Processor brand doesn't matter, it is the speed of the processor that matters.  There are some pretty fast AMD processors out there, but there are some laptop manufacturers that are happy to sell you something slow and cheap even though you will be miserable.  You can buy a brand new laptop today that will be slower than a 6-year-old mid-range desktop if you aren't careful.


Use the system section of control panel to find out what processor you have, then go here:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/


and search it out in the chart and get the speed.  Do the same with any new computer you are looking at.



On 12/7/2019 16:23, Don H wrote:
Does Jaws 2020 run just as well on a laptop running a AMD processor and graphics?  Considering purchasing a HP Envy 360 15z laptop





Chris Hill
 

Oh heck no.  my amd chip has 8 cores and can run two threads per core.  Your info is way out of date.

On 12/8/2019 09:44, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io wrote:

Be careful when evaluating processor speed.  My understanding is that AMD processors have only one core which means that even though an AMD processor  may be rated at a speed of say, 3.5 gHZ, it may not be as fast in real world use as a multicore Intel processor rated at the same speed.


Gerald



On 12/8/2019 10:32 AM, Chris Hill wrote:
Processor brand doesn't matter, it is the speed of the processor that matters.  There are some pretty fast AMD processors out there, but there are some laptop manufacturers that are happy to sell you something slow and cheap even though you will be miserable.  You can buy a brand new laptop today that will be slower than a 6-year-old mid-range desktop if you aren't careful.


Use the system section of control panel to find out what processor you have, then go here:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/


and search it out in the chart and get the speed.  Do the same with any new computer you are looking at.



On 12/7/2019 16:23, Don H wrote:
Does Jaws 2020 run just as well on a laptop running a AMD processor and graphics?  Considering purchasing a HP Envy 360 15z laptop







 

Apparently some of the newest AMD processors currently blow intel out of the water although the new 9th generation I7 is supposed to be also very good.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2019 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Oh heck no.  my amd chip has 8 cores and can run two threads per core. Your info is way out of date.



On 12/8/2019 09:44, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io wrote:

Be careful when evaluating processor speed.  My understanding is that
AMD processors have only one core which means that even though an AMD
processor  may be rated at a speed of say, 3.5 gHZ, it may not be as
fast in real world use as a multicore Intel processor rated at the
same speed.


Gerald



On 12/8/2019 10:32 AM, Chris Hill wrote:
Processor brand doesn't matter, it is the speed of the processor that
matters.  There are some pretty fast AMD processors out there, but
there are some laptop manufacturers that are happy to sell you
something slow and cheap even though you will be miserable.  You can
buy a brand new laptop today that will be slower than a 6-year-old
mid-range desktop if you aren't careful.


Use the system section of control panel to find out what processor
you have, then go here:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/


and search it out in the chart and get the speed.  Do the same with
any new computer you are looking at.



On 12/7/2019 16:23, Don H wrote:
Does Jaws 2020 run just as well on a laptop running a AMD processor
and graphics?  Considering purchasing a HP Envy 360 15z laptop








Randy Barnett
 

There are very few programs that actually use more than one core. This is another bit of hype from Intel. with that said AMD has and has had multi core processors for a long time. If you have programs that explicitly say they use multi core code then that is when                         it really matters.

Actually I don't know if you can even buy a single core CPU anymore.

from Google:

Single-core processors have more or less been phased-out in favor of multi-core processors since the early 2010s for the mobile, desktop, and server markets. Single-core processors can still be found in various low-power, embedded, and special-purpose applications and devices.Sep 6, 2017


On 12/8/2019 7:44 AM, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io wrote:

Be careful when evaluating processor speed.  My understanding is that AMD processors have only one core which means that even though an AMD processor  may be rated at a speed of say, 3.5 gHZ, it may not be as fast in real world use as a multicore Intel processor rated at the same speed.


Gerald



On 12/8/2019 10:32 AM, Chris Hill wrote:
Processor brand doesn't matter, it is the speed of the processor that matters.  There are some pretty fast AMD processors out there, but there are some laptop manufacturers that are happy to sell you something slow and cheap even though you will be miserable.  You can buy a brand new laptop today that will be slower than a 6-year-old mid-range desktop if you aren't careful.


Use the system section of control panel to find out what processor you have, then go here:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/


and search it out in the chart and get the speed.  Do the same with any new computer you are looking at.



On 12/7/2019 16:23, Don H wrote:
Does Jaws 2020 run just as well on a laptop running a AMD processor and graphics?  Considering purchasing a HP Envy 360 15z laptop













Randy Barnett
 

Here is an answer from MS for Windows and Multi core CPU's.

From Microsoft - Windows 10 supports a maximum of two physical CPUs, but the number of logical processors or cores varies based on the processor architecture. A maximum of 32 cores is supported in 32-bit versions of Windows 8, whereas up to 256 cores are supported in the 64-bit versions.

Can it use them? Absolutely. Will the average person take advantage of this much CPU power? Not likely.

These types of processors seem to be aimed at the gaming market

Not at all. While games do require some CPU horsepower, GPU power is often king in gaming. I doubt any game would come close to using this much CPU (unless there was a bug) anytime in the near future.

These types of CPU are more for data analytics and number crunching, not for a home consumer. One could make the argument that "more" is better, there are diminishing returns in standard use environments.

There definitely are some applications that can take advantage of such a high number of cores. Video editing, 3D modeling, etc. However, that level of CPU power is not used by the average user.

12/10/2019 1:58 PM, Randy Barnett via Groups.Io wrote:

There are very few programs that actually use more than one core. This is another bit of hype from Intel. with that said AMD has and has had multi core processors for a long time. If you have programs that explicitly say they use multi core code then that is when                         it really matters.

Actually I don't know if you can even buy a single core CPU anymore.

from Google:

Single-core processors have more or less been phased-out in favor of multi-core processors since the early 2010s for the mobile, desktop, and server markets. Single-core processors can still be found in various low-power, embedded, and special-purpose applications and devices.Sep 6, 2017


On 12/8/2019 7:44 AM, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io wrote:

Be careful when evaluating processor speed.  My understanding is that AMD processors have only one core which means that even though an AMD processor  may be rated at a speed of say, 3.5 gHZ, it may not be as fast in real world use as a multicore Intel processor rated at the same speed.


Gerald



On 12/8/2019 10:32 AM, Chris Hill wrote:
Processor brand doesn't matter, it is the speed of the processor that matters.  There are some pretty fast AMD processors out there, but there are some laptop manufacturers that are happy to sell you something slow and cheap even though you will be miserable.  You can buy a brand new laptop today that will be slower than a 6-year-old mid-range desktop if you aren't careful.


Use the system section of control panel to find out what processor you have, then go here:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/


and search it out in the chart and get the speed.  Do the same with any new computer you are looking at.



On 12/7/2019 16:23, Don H wrote:
Does Jaws 2020 run just as well on a laptop running a AMD processor and graphics?  Considering purchasing a HP Envy 360 15z laptop