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Mike Rogers
I was a Window Eyes user. With W.E., when leaving a program I was returned to the desktop. With Jaws, I have to hit windows-D to get there and sometimes have to hit it twice. to return to desktop. Is there something I can change to get directly to desktop, upone closing a program?
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Richard Turner
Apparently, that is the way JAWS behaves now.
I too miss the way Window-Eyes focused where you would expect a screen reader to focus.
Richard
On Oct 12, 2017, at 5:14 AM, Mike Rogers <harpman9@...> wrote:
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Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
I use Windows key plus m. Keith
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 7:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Desktop Question I was a Window Eyes user. With W.E., when leaving a program I was returned to the desktop. With Jaws, I have to hit windows-D to get there and sometimes have to hit it twice. to return to desktop. Is there something I can change to get directly to desktop, upone closing a program? ******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com
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Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
Sometimes, if Alt+F4 does not get me out of a program, Alt+f+x will. Windows+d or m can get annoying.
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Best from, Carolyn
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 9:52 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Desktop Question Apparently, that is the way JAWS behaves now. I too miss the way Window-Eyes focused where you would expect a screen reader to focus. Richard On Oct 12, 2017, at 5:14 AM, Mike Rogers <harpman9@gmail.com <mailto:harpman9@gmail.com> > wrote: I was a Window Eyes user. With W.E., when leaving a program I was returned to the desktop. With Jaws, I have to hit windows-D to get there and sometimes have to hit it twice. to return to desktop. Is there something I can change to get directly to desktop, upone closing a program? ******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com <http://www.harmonicaworkshops.com>
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Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
There was a way to toggle that on and off, but I cannot remember, and in my
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notes it says to go to personalize in the context menu, and change the theme, but now I cannot figure out how to be on the desktop without having one of the icons selected in order to get the desired context menu. My notes say to press f 5, but that is not unselecting the icon.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers Sent: October 12, 2017 5:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Desktop Question I was a Window Eyes user. With W.E., when leaving a program I was returned to the desktop. With Jaws, I have to hit windows-D to get there and sometimes have to hit it twice. to return to desktop. Is there something I can change to get directly to desktop, upone closing a program? ******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com
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Mike Rogers
Thanks.
******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 14:52:35 +0000 "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu> wrote: I use Windows key plus m. Keith
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Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Mike. Along with what other users have said about closing a program with
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ALT plus F, you can also try closing programs with the following keystrokes: ALT plus SPACE, then arrow up to close or exit. See if maybe this causes a more focused return to desktop. Bill White Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 5:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Desktop Question I was a Window Eyes user. With W.E., when leaving a program I was returned to the desktop. With Jaws, I have to hit windows-D to get there and sometimes have to hit it twice. to return to desktop. Is there something I can change to get directly to desktop, upone closing a program? ******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com
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Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
What I actually meant in my last message, Mike is that some users use ALT
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plus F, then X. Bill White Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 5:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Desktop Question I was a Window Eyes user. With W.E., when leaving a program I was returned to the desktop. With Jaws, I have to hit windows-D to get there and sometimes have to hit it twice. to return to desktop. Is there something I can change to get directly to desktop, upone closing a program? ******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com
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Mike Rogers
Thanks Bill.
Actually, these keys do the same as alt plus f4. They close the program to where Jaws stops speaking. I still have to hit windows plus D to get to the desktop. No big deal, except that sometimes I have to hit the keys twice to get Jaws back to the desktop. It just takes a couple extra movements and I'm lazy. Mike ******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 08:21:03 -0700 "Bill White" <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote: What I actually meant in my last message, Mike is that some users use ALT
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Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Mike. The keystrokes I mention often work, whereas, when using ALT plus
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F4, programs sometimes won't even close. Bill White Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 8:27 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Desktop Question Thanks Bill. Actually, these keys do the same as alt plus f4. They close the program to where Jaws stops speaking. I still have to hit windows plus D to get to the desktop. No big deal, except that sometimes I have to hit the keys twice to get Jaws back to the desktop. It just takes a couple extra movements and I'm lazy. Mike ******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 08:21:03 -0700 "Bill White" <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote: What I actually meant in my last message, Mike is that some users use ALTreturned to the desktop. With Jaws, I have to hit windows-D to get there andI can change to get directly to desktop, upone closing a program?
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Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
Hi
Mike,
Give this a
try:
Taking the Desktop out of the loop
when using Alt + Tab.
You want to change your desktop theme to Windows Classic. Try the following: 1. While on the desktop make sure nothing is selected. Press control + spacebar until you hear not selected. You can also press the F5 key. 2. Open your context menu, up arrow to personalize, & press enter. 3. Press down arrow until you get to an item called Windows7 Basic. Right arrow to Windows Classic. Hit the enter key to make the desired change. 4. Wait a few seconds or until you hear an audio sound effect confirming the completion of this process. I would wait another 2 minutes or so as your computer is making lots of changes and you want to allow lots of time for the process to complete. Note: Also, changing desktop
themes can possibly change your Sound Schemes as well. So, you might
have to alter your sound schemes to get the sounds you want.
Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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From: Mike Rogers
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: Desktop Question Actually, these keys do the same as alt plus f4. They close the program to where Jaws stops speaking. I still have to hit windows plus D to get to the desktop. No big deal, except that sometimes I have to hit the keys twice to get Jaws back to the desktop. It just takes a couple extra movements and I'm lazy. Mike ******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 08:21:03 -0700 "Bill White" <billwhite92701@...> wrote: > What I actually meant in my last message, Mike is that some users use ALT > plus F, then X. > > Bill White > Billwhite92701@... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike > Rogers > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 5:14 AM > To: main@jfw.groups.io > Subject: Desktop Question > > I was a Window Eyes user. With W.E., when leaving a program I was returned > to the desktop. With Jaws, I have to hit windows-D to get there and > sometimes have to hit it twice. to return to desktop. Is there something I > can change to get directly to desktop, upone closing a program? > > ******************************** > > www.harmonicaworkshops.com > > > > > > > > > > >
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Mike Rogers
Thanks. I'll use them.
******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 08:32:39 -0700 "Bill White" <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote: Hi, Mike. The keystrokes I mention often work, whereas, when using ALT plus
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Mike Rogers
Thanks for this.
Mike ******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 09:09:48 -0700 "Mike B." <mb69mach1@charter.net> wrote: Hi Mike,
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netbat66
i think this depends on many factors. the type of video hardware is in the computer. what programs and drivers that are loaded. etc.
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my computer has never gone directly to the desktop after i close a program in windows 7 , 8 or 10. when i first boot the computer focus is on a invisable screen from eset smart security. etc. it does this weather or not window eyes is loaded. it still will not go to the desktop without haveing to use control d.
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From: Mike Rogers Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 5:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Desktop Question I was a Window Eyes user. With W.E., when leaving a program I was returned to the desktop. With Jaws, I have to hit windows-D to get there and sometimes have to hit it twice. to return to desktop. Is there something I can change to get directly to desktop, upone closing a program? ******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com
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Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
If you want to unselect where you are on the Desktop press
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Control+Spacebar. Best from, Carolyn
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 11:15 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Desktop Question There was a way to toggle that on and off, but I cannot remember, and in my notes it says to go to personalize in the context menu, and change the theme, but now I cannot figure out how to be on the desktop without having one of the icons selected in order to get the desired context menu. My notes say to press f 5, but that is not unselecting the icon. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers Sent: October 12, 2017 5:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Desktop Question I was a Window Eyes user. With W.E., when leaving a program I was returned to the desktop. With Jaws, I have to hit windows-D to get there and sometimes have to hit it twice. to return to desktop. Is there something I can change to get directly to desktop, upone closing a program? ******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com
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netbat66
thats windows d. grin
i think this depends on many factors. the type of video hardware is in the computer. what programs and drivers that are loaded. etc. my computer has never gone directly to the desktop after i close a program in windows 7 , 8 or 10. when i first boot the computer focus is on a invisable screen from eset smart security. etc. it does this weather or not window eyes is loaded. it still will not go to the desktop without haveing to use windows d.
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Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
I'm glad to know that one; intend to try it.
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Best from, Carolyn
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 11:20 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Desktop Question Hi, Mike. Along with what other users have said about closing a program with ALT plus F, you can also try closing programs with the following keystrokes: ALT plus SPACE, then arrow up to close or exit. See if maybe this causes a more focused return to desktop. Bill White Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 5:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Desktop Question I was a Window Eyes user. With W.E., when leaving a program I was returned to the desktop. With Jaws, I have to hit windows-D to get there and sometimes have to hit it twice. to return to desktop. Is there something I can change to get directly to desktop, upone closing a program? ******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com
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Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
It is just that we did not used to have to jump through all
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of those hoops, kind of like having a car and having to crank it to start it and push a starter on the floor, then use a clutch to engage gears - going backward. Best from, Carolyn
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 11:27 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Desktop Question Thanks Bill. Actually, these keys do the same as alt plus f4. They close the program to where Jaws stops speaking. I still have to hit windows plus D to get to the desktop. No big deal, except that sometimes I have to hit the keys twice to get Jaws back to the desktop. It just takes a couple extra movements and I'm lazy. Mike ******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 08:21:03 -0700 "Bill White" <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote: What I actually meant in my last message, Mike is thatsome users use ALT plus F, then X.Behalf Of Mike Rogersprogram I was returned to the desktop. With Jaws, I have to hitwindows-D to get there and sometimes have to hit it twice. to return todesktop. Is there something I can change to get directly to desktop,upone closing a program?
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Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
I wish I'd have known about Alt+Spacebar+ Up Arrow - I felt
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much more secure with Close. It worked - my first choice for exit now. Thanks for that tip. Best from, Carolyn
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 12:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Desktop Question Hi Mike, Give this a try: Taking the Desktop out of the loop when using Alt + Tab. You want to change your desktop theme to Windows Classic. Try the following: 1. While on the desktop make sure nothing is selected. Press control + spacebar until you hear not selected. You can also press the F5 key. 2. Open your context menu, up arrow to personalize, & press enter. 3. Press down arrow until you get to an item called Windows7 Basic. Right arrow to Windows Classic. Hit the enter key to make the desired change. 4. Wait a few seconds or until you hear an audio sound effect confirming the completion of this process. I would wait another 2 minutes or so as your computer is making lots of changes and you want to allow lots of time for the process to complete. Note: Also, changing desktop themes can possibly change your Sound Schemes as well. So, you might have to alter your sound schemes to get the sounds you want. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Rogers <mailto:harpman9@gmail.com> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 8:27 AM Subject: Re: Desktop Question Thanks Bill. Actually, these keys do the same as alt plus f4. They close the program to where Jaws stops speaking. I still have to hit windows plus D to get to the desktop. No big deal, except that sometimes I have to hit the keys twice to get Jaws back to the desktop. It just takes a couple extra movements and I'm lazy. Mike ******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com <http://www.harmonicaworkshops.com> On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 08:21:03 -0700 "Bill White" <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> > wrote: What I actually meant in my last message, Mike is thatsome users use ALT plus F, then X.<mailto:Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> program I was returned to the desktop. With Jaws, I have to hitwindows-D to get there and sometimes have to hit it twice. to return todesktop. Is there something I can change to get directly to desktop,upone closing a program? <http://www.harmonicaworkshops.com>
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netbat66
i don't know how to explain it. but windows m does not minimize all program screens. if you can see at all try it.
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load a program that you can open a dialog within the program. then press windows m. focus will go to the desktop but the dialog will not minimize. it will stay on the screen. when you use windows d everything is minimized. includeing that dialog box.
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From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 7:52 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Desktop Question I use Windows key plus m. Keith -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 7:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Desktop Question I was a Window Eyes user. With W.E., when leaving a program I was returned to the desktop. With Jaws, I have to hit windows-D to get there and sometimes have to hit it twice. to return to desktop. Is there something I can change to get directly to desktop, upone closing a program? ******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com
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