Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18
Patrick Johnson
Group,
As I continue the transition from Window Eyes to JAWS 18 I have the following web browsing command questions. I know <U> can be used to browse unvisited links, and <V> for visited links, and <F> for web elements. Is there a key stroke to browse by links regardless if they have been visited or not? On a related topic, I see <E> is the command to navigate by edit fields. Are <space bar> and <ESC> the JAWS equvilent to the WE <CTRL>-<SHIFT>-A for toggling on/off within an edit field? In WE I could use the <CTRL>-<SHIFT>-F10 command to right click on a link and get the "save link as" command. What would the JAWS equvilent be using JAWS 18 and Firefox, on a Windows 10 machine? Thanks, Patrick |
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Stan Holdeman
In browser tab goes link to link. Also, jaws key plus f7 brings up list of links.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 8:11 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18 Group, As I continue the transition from Window Eyes to JAWS 18 I have the following web browsing command questions. I know <U> can be used to browse unvisited links, and <V> for visited links, and <F> for web elements. Is there a key stroke to browse by links regardless if they have been visited or not? On a related topic, I see <E> is the command to navigate by edit fields. Are <space bar> and <ESC> the JAWS equvilent to the WE <CTRL>-<SHIFT>-A for toggling on/off within an edit field? In WE I could use the <CTRL>-<SHIFT>-F10 command to right click on a link and get the "save link as" command. What would the JAWS equvilent be using JAWS 18 and Firefox, on a Windows 10 machine? Thanks, Patrick |
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Patrick Johnson
Stan,
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Thanks for the JAWS-F7 key reminder. What I am looking for is the ability while working on a web page to go to an element and see if it is a link or not, unfortunately I am working on a page where elements do not have the best ALT tagging. Thanks, Patrick On 9/19/17, Stan Holdeman <sholdeman@...> wrote:
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Mario
in response to your questions:
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pressing insert+f7 gives you a listing of all of the links on a page, whether they were visited or not. pressing enter or tabbing to the activate button and pressing enter or spacebar on the one selected activates the link. you can also tab to a move to button and pressing the enter or spacebar will select the link on the webpage without activating the link. there might be a quick key to do what you want; I'll have to see, unless someone finds it first. if forms mode has been set to manual, pressing the enter or spacebar on an edit field turns on forms mode and pressing the escape key or the pc cursor (numpad plus key when numlok is off) turns off forms mode. pressing the application key (to the right of the right windows key), shift+f10 (if you don't have an application key) or pressing the right mouse click key (numpad star (times/multiply)) will most likely give you an opportunity to save the link as something, depending on what the link is for and if the website author permits the downloading of whatever it is. hth -------- Original Message --------
From: Patrick Johnson [mailto:patrickjohnson1015@...] Sent: Monday, Sep 18, 2017 8:10 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18 Group, As I continue the transition from Window Eyes to JAWS 18 I have the following web browsing command questions. I know <U> can be used to browse unvisited links, and <V> for visited links, and <F> for web elements. Is there a key stroke to browse by links regardless if they have been visited or not? On a related topic, I see <E> is the command to navigate by edit fields. Are <space bar> and <ESC> the JAWS equvilent to the WE <CTRL>-<SHIFT>-A for toggling on/off within an edit field? In WE I could use the <CTRL>-<SHIFT>-F10 command to right click on a link and get the "save link as" command. What would the JAWS equvilent be using JAWS 18 and Firefox, on a Windows 10 machine? Thanks, Patrick . |
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Mario
sorry Patrick, I did not find any quick key to move to a link regardless
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if it was visited or not. the only way is pressing the insert+f7 as previously mentioned. -------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@...] Sent: Tuesday, Sep 19, 2017 11:01 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18 in response to your questions: pressing insert+f7 gives you a listing of all of the links on a page, whether they were visited or not. pressing enter or tabbing to the activate button and pressing enter or spacebar on the one selected activates the link. you can also tab to a move to button and pressing the enter or spacebar will select the link on the webpage without activating the link. there might be a quick key to do what you want; I'll have to see, unless someone finds it first. if forms mode has been set to manual, pressing the enter or spacebar on an edit field turns on forms mode and pressing the escape key or the pc cursor (numpad plus key when numlok is off) turns off forms mode. pressing the application key (to the right of the right windows key), shift+f10 (if you don't have an application key) or pressing the right mouse click key (numpad star (times/multiply)) will most likely give you an opportunity to save the link as something, depending on what the link is for and if the website author permits the downloading of whatever it is. hth -------- Original Message -------- From: Patrick Johnson [mailto:patrickjohnson1015@...] Sent: Monday, Sep 18, 2017 8:10 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18 Group, As I continue the transition from Window Eyes to JAWS 18 I have the following web browsing command questions. I know <U> can be used to browse unvisited links, and <V> for visited links, and <F> for web elements. Is there a key stroke to browse by links regardless if they have been visited or not? On a related topic, I see <E> is the command to navigate by edit fields. Are <space bar> and <ESC> the JAWS equvilent to the WE <CTRL>-<SHIFT>-A for toggling on/off within an edit field? In WE I could use the <CTRL>-<SHIFT>-F10 command to right click on a link and get the "save link as" command. What would the JAWS equvilent be using JAWS 18 and Firefox, on a Windows 10 machine? Thanks, Patrick . |
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Shan Noyes
Hi:
When you are on a web page and in virtual cursor mode various keys do different things
e.g. letter u jump to next unvisited link letter v jump to the next visited link letter e jump to the next edit box letter g jump to next graphic letter c jump to next combo box letter x ump to next checkbox
there are others. best approach is go to a web page and switch into the keyboard help insert plus number 1 from top row of key board and this way you can experiment and hear what the keys do and nothing will happen. remember the insert plus 1 key is a toggle and will turn of the key board help.
of course if you use the shift key on any of thecommands instead of moving down the page to the next element, it will move upwards. and when you hit the bottom element it jumps to the top of the page.
Have a good day.
Shan Noyes
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 17:53:28 +0000, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote: sorry Patrick, I did not find any quick key to move to a link regardless |
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Soronel Haetir
And you can see (or change) the list of navigation quick keys by going
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to the jaws program menu (jaws+j) then utilities -> navigation quick key manager and choose the set of quick keys you want to look at. On 9/19/17, Shan Noyes <noyes01@...> wrote:
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Patrick Johnson
Mario and others,
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Let me provide an example of what I am trying to do. Go to higheredjobs.com and sort by a state, in my case Virginia. It is easy enough to use <H> to get to the Virginia header, and <U> to get to the first unvisited position title. My question/challenge is how can I scroll through the positions and know when I have reached the last one I visited? A cumbersome method would be to go to the last visited position and <shift>-<U> to the top of the list. Has FS considered changing the <U> parameter to jump by link regardless if it has been visited or not? Or, can the parameter be "easily" changed by the end user? Thanks, Patrick On 9/19/17, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:
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Mario
you will know when you have reached the last listing is when you press u
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to go to the next unvisited link and JAWS announces "link 1", which indicates there are additional listings on the next page. this assumes that the number of all listings exceeds the number of displayed listings per page. I don't think FS would consider changing the parameter for the u quick key to suit your need, and I don't think a user can creat their own, but it would be neat if it were possible. you could use the apostrophe key which is not used at the moment. -------- Original Message --------
From: Patrick Johnson [mailto:patrickjohnson1015@...] Sent: Wednesday, Sep 20, 2017 12:06 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18 Mario and others, Let me provide an example of what I am trying to do. Go to higheredjobs.com and sort by a state, in my case Virginia. It is easy enough to use <H> to get to the Virginia header, and <U> to get to the first unvisited position title. My question/challenge is how can I scroll through the positions and know when I have reached the last one I visited? A cumbersome method would be to go to the last visited position and <shift>-<U> to the top of the list. Has FS considered changing the <U> parameter to jump by link regardless if it has been visited or not? Or, can the parameter be "easily" changed by the end user? Thanks, Patrick On 9/19/17, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote: sorry Patrick, I did not find any quick key to move to a link regardless if it was visited or not. the only way is pressing the insert+f7 as previously mentioned. -------- Original Message -------- From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@...] Sent: Tuesday, Sep 19, 2017 11:01 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18 in response to your questions: pressing insert+f7 gives you a listing of all of the links on a page, whether they were visited or not. pressing enter or tabbing to the activate button and pressing enter or spacebar on the one selected activates the link. you can also tab to a move to button and pressing the enter or spacebar will select the link on the webpage without activating the link. there might be a quick key to do what you want; I'll have to see, unless someone finds it first. if forms mode has been set to manual, pressing the enter or spacebar on an edit field turns on forms mode and pressing the escape key or the pc cursor (numpad plus key when numlok is off) turns off forms mode. pressing the application key (to the right of the right windows key), shift+f10 (if you don't have an application key) or pressing the right mouse click key (numpad star (times/multiply)) will most likely give you an opportunity to save the link as something, depending on what the link is for and if the website author permits the downloading of whatever it is. hth -------- Original Message -------- From: Patrick Johnson [mailto:patrickjohnson1015@...] Sent: Monday, Sep 18, 2017 8:10 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18 Group, As I continue the transition from Window Eyes to JAWS 18 I have the following web browsing command questions. I know <U> can be used to browse unvisited links, and <V> for visited links, and <F> for web elements. Is there a key stroke to browse by links regardless if they have been visited or not? On a related topic, I see <E> is the command to navigate by edit fields. Are <space bar> and <ESC> the JAWS equvilent to the WE <CTRL>-<SHIFT>-A for toggling on/off within an edit field? In WE I could use the <CTRL>-<SHIFT>-F10 command to right click on a link and get the "save link as" command. What would the JAWS equvilent be using JAWS 18 and Firefox, on a Windows 10 machine? Thanks, Patrick . . |
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