Which internet browser do you prefer and why?
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Nickus de Vos
Hi all
When I had Windows 7 I always used Internet Explorer as my main browser, though from time to time I also used Firefox a bit. Now with Windows 10 it feels to me like Internet Explorer isn’t quite cutting it for me anymore. It’s often slow and sluggish and it also crashes from time to time giving all sorts of errors. I think it’s time to try something else and switch over to that as my primary browser. I haven’t tried Chrome yet, but from what I understand it’s also accessible with Jaws these days and I know Firefox is also accessible. So my question, which of the 2 do you prefer to use and why? Which do you find most accessible and easier to use? Thanks Nickus |
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Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
I find FireFox more accessible than Chrome.
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I like that FireFox updates itself easily from time to time. It takes a little getting used too since it uses the term BookMarks for what IE called Favorites. But, once you get used to it, I think it is excellent and far superior to Internet Explorer on any system, but especially Windows 10. Richard On Aug 28, 2017, at 3:43 PM, Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...> wrote: |
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David Moore
Hi all! Chrome Browser works great for me. I like it much better than firefox, because you have one virticle menu to do everything. I did a tutorial on using the Chrome Browser, I will put it on the list, or email me privately. Chrome is very fast with loading pages, and it is very secure. Many of the key commands are the same as firefox. Also, if you use NVDA, I am using MS Edge with NVDA, and I am liking it better than Chrome, because it drains very little from the battery. NVDA works as well in Edge, as JAWS works in Chrome. With JAWS, Chrome is the best browser to use by far. David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Nickus de Vos
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 6:43 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Which internet browser do you prefer and why?
Hi all When I had Windows 7 I always used Internet Explorer as my main browser, though from time to time I also used Firefox a bit.
Now with Windows 10 it feels to me like Internet Explorer isn’t quite cutting it for me anymore. It’s often slow and sluggish and it also crashes from time to time giving all sorts of errors.
I think it’s time to try something else and switch over to that as my primary browser. I haven’t tried Chrome yet, but from what I understand it’s also accessible with Jaws these days and I know Firefox is also accessible. So my question, which of the 2 do you prefer to use and why? Which do you find most accessible and easier to use?
Thanks
Nickus
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David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...>
I use both. I also use IE, as well. When I want to save a shortcut to my desktop, I use I E. Most of the time, I use Firefox. When 10 came out, if you used Edge, it was suggested by the browser that Edge didn't support screen readers. Now, there is a push by another list to use Edge. I muse if they are getting a kickback from Microsoft under the guise of trialing, Edge. If that is the case, show me the money, honey. I don't work for free.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos Sent: August 27, 2017 11:10 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Which internet browser do you prefer and why? Hi all When I had Windows 7 I always used Internet Explorer as my main browser, though from time to time I also used Firefox a bit. Now with Windows 10 it feels to me like Internet Explorer isn’t quite cutting it for me anymore. It’s often slow and sluggish and it also crashes from time to time giving all sorts of errors. I think it’s time to try something else and switch over to that as my primary browser. I haven’t tried Chrome yet, but from what I understand it’s also accessible with Jaws these days and I know Firefox is also accessible. So my question, which of the 2 do you prefer to use and why? Which do you find most accessible and easier to use? Thanks Nickus |
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 3:50 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Which internet browser do you prefer and why?
Hi all! Chrome Browser works great for me. I like it much better than firefox, because you have one virticle menu to do everything. I did a tutorial on using the Chrome Browser, I will put it on the list, or email me privately. Chrome is very fast with loading pages, and it is very secure. Many of the key commands are the same as firefox. Also, if you use NVDA, I am using MS Edge with NVDA, and I am liking it better than Chrome, because it drains very little from the battery. NVDA works as well in Edge, as JAWS works in Chrome. With JAWS, Chrome is the best browser to use by far. David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Nickus de Vos
Hi all When I had Windows 7 I always used Internet Explorer as my main browser, though from time to time I also used Firefox a bit.
Now with Windows 10 it feels to me like Internet Explorer isn’t quite cutting it for me anymore. It’s often slow and sluggish and it also crashes from time to time giving all sorts of errors.
I think it’s time to try something else and switch over to that as my primary browser. I haven’t tried Chrome yet, but from what I understand it’s also accessible with Jaws these days and I know Firefox is also accessible. So my question, which of the 2 do you prefer to use and why? Which do you find most accessible and easier to use?
Thanks
Nickus
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Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
Put it on the list, please, David. I do not like Fire Fox, will give Chrome a try. It did not at all a few years back when I had XP and JAWS 13, but I've come a long way since then with Windows 10 and JAWS 18.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 6:50 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Which internet browser do you prefer and why? Hi all! Chrome Browser works great for me. I like it much better than firefox, because you have one virticle menu to do everything. I did a tutorial on using the Chrome Browser, I will put it on the list, or email me privately. Chrome is very fast with loading pages, and it is very secure. Many of the key commands are the same as firefox. Also, if you use NVDA, I am using MS Edge with NVDA, and I am liking it better than Chrome, because it drains very little from the battery. NVDA works as well in Edge, as JAWS works in Chrome. With JAWS, Chrome is the best browser to use by far. David Moore Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Nickus de Vos <mailto:bigboy529@...> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 6:43 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Which internet browser do you prefer and why? Hi all When I had Windows 7 I always used Internet Explorer as my main browser, though from time to time I also used Firefox a bit. Now with Windows 10 it feels to me like Internet Explorer isn’t quite cutting it for me anymore. It’s often slow and sluggish and it also crashes from time to time giving all sorts of errors. I think it’s time to try something else and switch over to that as my primary browser. I haven’t tried Chrome yet, but from what I understand it’s also accessible with Jaws these days and I know Firefox is also accessible. So my question, which of the 2 do you prefer to use and why? Which do you find most accessible and easier to use? Thanks Nickus |
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Jason White
I mostly use Chrome also, principally for its performance and security. There are certain documents that I need for work purposes which are extensively modified by scripts when they’re retrieved (automatic generation of the table of contents etc.). They’re extremely slow to load in Firefox with JAWS, but load very quickly in Chrome.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 6:50 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Which internet browser do you prefer and why?
Hi all! Chrome Browser works great for me. I like it much better than firefox, because you have one virticle menu to do everything. I did a tutorial on using the Chrome Browser, I will put it on the list, or email me privately. Chrome is very fast with loading pages, and it is very secure. Many of the key commands are the same as firefox. Also, if you use NVDA, I am using MS Edge with NVDA, and I am liking it better than Chrome, because it drains very little from the battery. NVDA works as well in Edge, as JAWS works in Chrome. With JAWS, Chrome is the best browser to use by far. David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Nickus de Vos
Hi all When I had Windows 7 I always used Internet Explorer as my main browser, though from time to time I also used Firefox a bit.
Now with Windows 10 it feels to me like Internet Explorer isn’t quite cutting it for me anymore. It’s often slow and sluggish and it also crashes from time to time giving all sorts of errors.
I think it’s time to try something else and switch over to that as my primary browser. I haven’t tried Chrome yet, but from what I understand it’s also accessible with Jaws these days and I know Firefox is also accessible. So my question, which of the 2 do you prefer to use and why? Which do you find most accessible and easier to use?
Thanks
Nickus
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Martian.Lady
Hi I like IE. Chrome doesn't play nicely with Jaws 16.
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Either IE or Firefox. Depending on what I am doing. Portia
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Martian.Lady
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 8:51 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Which internet browser do you prefer and why?
Hi I like IE. Chrome doesn't play nicely with Jaws 16.
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Randy Barnett <randy@...>
IE, Firefox once in awile and chrome
from time to time. I really dont like the History or bookmark
layout in either Firefox or Chrome.
Also some of the sluggishness or crashing isnt IE it is Jaws and it happens with Firefox and Chrome just not as often from what people say but then again I dont have that much trouble with IE. On 8/28/2017 9:21 PM, Portia Mason via Groups.Io wrote:
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Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Chrome I smy choice also, very fast and I like the fact that if you use multiple computers as I do and I sign in to Chrome with my gmail account all settings, extensions and so o I set up on any computer also become available on all others. I always had one issue with Chrome and that was that it was very unreliable to copy any text. Last week I spoke to FS support about something else and ended up asking the guy. He told me to open Chrome, go into the quick settings with Jaws Key+V and type the word “select” into the search box, then tab to the results. You end up on a virtual cursor option called “Select and Copy From”, by default this is set to Full content using onscreen highlight”. If you press the spacebar it changes to “Virtual Cursor” and if it is set to this copying works perfectly. I still have a few sites where Chrome doesn’t work and then I go back to IE, but for the most part Chrome is very good. I guess now with the upcoming Jaws 2018 we’ll see how good Edge support is/will become, but in my opinion browsers are like hammers to a carpenter or saws to a woodworker, you have several and use the one which works best for the particular job or, in this case, website. They are after all free, there are no problems having Chrome and Firefox installed on a Windows 10 machine in addition to IE and Edge which are there by default so why not try each for what you do and decide what works best for you.
Regards, Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 9:37 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Which internet browser do you prefer and why?
IE, Firefox once in awile and chrome from time to time. I really dont like the History or bookmark layout in either Firefox or Chrome.
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Randy Barnett <randy@...>
Just so you are aware:
With the "From Virtual Cursor" setting, text is copied as plain text without formatting, pictures, and HTML attributes. With the "Full Content Using Onscreen Highlight" setting, the text and elements you select are highlighted onscreen as you press selection keys from the keyboard just as it would be in programs like Word Processors. The content is then copied with all formatting. The default setting is Full Content Using Onscreen Highlight. On 8/28/2017 9:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
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Kerry Fielding <littlemisslovely1973@...>
Hi all. I prefer chrome or Firefox. I haven't used Internet explorer for a long time. I find it clunky, unwieldy, and unstable. I was constantly getting issues where jaws seemed to believe that the menubar was on so I simply stopped using it. I also used to get the "page unresponsive" error or it just used to simply stop working altogether and I had to close it down. I am still on good old windows seven and so maybe if I were using Windows 10 things might be different. Up until recently I only had JAWS 16 as well but I found a massive difference since upgrading to 18. Also, like others, I like the fact that with both Firefox and chrome you can simply sign in and have your bookmarks transferred over to any computer that has the same browsers. I wondered whether the issues I had with Internet Explorer were something to do with my computer, but when I was at a friends house this weekend I had cause to use their computer. They are still using Internet Explorer and Windows 7 and, I have to be honest, I found similar issues there. I will be relieved to be using chrome and Firefox again :-)
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Kerry Sent from my iPhone On 27 Aug 2017, at 19:10, Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...> wrote: |
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Vaughan Dodd
We have to remember that Microsoft trashed accessibility for the Edge browser which comes with
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Windows 10. Edge replaces internet Explorer, which is now legacy. I'm expecting huge progress from Freedom Scientific regarding Edge for the next major release of Jaws. But: to your specific question: Chrome is pulling ahead of Firefox as far as I am concerned. But there isn't a clear winner. Install both, and if a site fails on specific features with one browser, go to the alternative. Vaughan. On 8/28/2017 6:10 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote:
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Ngoc Ly <lyvanngoc@...>
me too, I’d like IE and firefox
Ngoc
Ly
lyvanngoc@... From: Portia Mason via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which internet browser do you prefer and
why? Either IE or Firefox. Depending on what I am doing. Portia
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Martian.Lady
Hi I like IE. Chrome doesn't play nicely with Jaws 16.
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Pablo Morales
All, all browsers are good. All browsers are accessible. All browsers are not going to work well on all web pages.
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So I use all of them. -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 2:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Which internet browser do you prefer and why? Hi all When I had Windows 7 I always used Internet Explorer as my main browser, though from time to time I also used Firefox a bit. Now with Windows 10 it feels to me like Internet Explorer isn’t quite cutting it for me anymore. It’s often slow and sluggish and it also crashes from time to time giving all sorts of errors. I think it’s time to try something else and switch over to that as my primary browser. I haven’t tried Chrome yet, but from what I understand it’s also accessible with Jaws these days and I know Firefox is also accessible. So my question, which of the 2 do you prefer to use and why? Which do you find most accessible and easier to use? Thanks Nickus |
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Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Well, I usually want text and what good is it if I use the other setting if it doesn’t work 8 out of 10 times, before I changed it most of the time if I highlighted stuff with the virtual cursor and pressed Control+C nothing got copied. If one of my sighted employees does it with the mouse it works fine and it works fine with the virtual cursor setting so it’s good enough for me. In fact, I usually just want text without formatting and since I normally paste said text into Notepad so I can manipulate it the way I want it makes little difference since any formatting is removed anyways when you paste into Notepad.
Regards, Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 10:13 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Which internet browser do you prefer and why?
Just so you are aware:
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Mario
most of the time, I use Firefox, but I find some websites do not work
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well, so I revert to Internet Explorer. since IE is being gradually phased out and I'm not really a fan of Chrome, I heard there might be a new accessible browser coming soon called Vivaldi: https://coolblindtech.com/vivaldi-web-browser-for-windows-adds-accessibility-features-for-the-visually-impaired/ I hope the developers make it so it still works in Windows 7, at least until 7 is no longer supported by Microsoft (1/14/20), if not longer. -------- Original Message --------
From: Nickus de Vos [mailto:bigboy529@...] Sent: Sunday, Aug 27, 2017 2:10 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Which internet browser do you prefer and why? Hi all When I had Windows 7 I always used Internet Explorer as my main browser, though from time to time I also used Firefox a bit. Now with Windows 10 it feels to me like Internet Explorer isn’t quite cutting it for me anymore. It’s often slow and sluggish and it also crashes from time to time giving all sorts of errors. I think it’s time to try something else and switch over to that as my primary browser. I haven’t tried Chrome yet, but from what I understand it’s also accessible with Jaws these days and I know Firefox is also accessible. So my question, which of the 2 do you prefer to use and why? Which do you find most accessible and easier to use? Thanks Nickus . |
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Randy Barnett <randy@...>
As long as it does what you want that
is great. :) Just letting peple know what is happening with each
selection. Also it is an accessibility issue that is being worked
around instead of fixed.
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Randy Barnett <randy@...>
You can use windows 7 and IE for as long as the hardware you have supports it. No one is going to bother hacking your system in 2022 Win 10 will be the target at that point. well it already is. :)
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On 8/29/2017 8:35 AM, Mario wrote:
most of the time, I use Firefox, but I find some websites do not work |
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