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moderated Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as areasonableaccommodation

David Griffith
 

 

 

But this is Microsoft Office we are talking about!  An Office product which is widely used across employment. How much more core could this be?

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: 14 November 2019 16:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as areasonableaccommodation

 

David,

I get your frustration, but I also think JAWS developers need to focus on the core products used by a majority of users. I could argue that Microsoft Project and Visio are mainline products that JAWS should support, but I also understand that it would take a lot of development hours to serve a small group of potential users of such visually based software. Far better that JAWS development focus on stability and features of mainline software.   Let those who have the know how and time develop scripts for less commonly used software.  You can’t get everything for free and companies have to choses were to spend development hours to meet the most needs.  Now, maybe Microsoft Narrator development will serve One Note. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonableaccommodation

 

 

As I understand it Jaws “out of the box” has never been able to work properly with One Note. For this reason someone in employment needs to buy 3rd party scripts to make them productive with One Note. This is especially the case  if they are using Jaws without sight.

I agree that it is not defensible for VFO to require their Users to purchase third  party scripts to make such a main stream Microsoft product work effectively for employees. It is a bit like requiring people by scripts to enable access to other parts of the same Office suite like  Word Excel or PowerPoint.

Scripts are a powerful extender to access with Jaws but should not be required for widely used mainstream employment products like Microsoft Office and the increasing used One Note. They should  come with Jaws. Scripts should be reserved / needed for vertical specialist employment software.

Having said that if you are employment now then I think you probably have little choice but to purchase scripts and the associated training to boost your productivity and protect yourself.

One example of the scripts at least are on.

https://www.hartgen.org/bhonenotewonder

David griffithSent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jessica D
Sent: 14 November 2019 04:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonableaccommodation

 

Hi,

When using onenote, jaws won't read the sidebar. 

I'm not even sure how to get to the sidebar. 

 

Has Freedom scientific given a training on this topic? 

If not, they definately should. 

 

Thanks,

Jessica 

 

 

On Nov 13, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:



I think you would need to be a bit more specific. What exactly does not work with your Office 365 installation?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation

 

Hi,

No, I think its onenote in general. 

Can anyone tell me how to get the office 365 version to work properly with jaws 2020? 

Thanks,

Jessica 

 

 

On Nov 13, 2019, at 7:46 PM, Michael Walker <michael.walker199014@...> wrote:



What note taking alternatives would you use?

 

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 5:07 PM Rod <rodalcidonis@...> wrote:

        Onenote does not work reliably with JAWS – I reported this to the accessibility desk a while ago. It is very sluggish and from my point of view unusable.

 

Rod,

 


Rod Alcidonis, Esq.

 

From: Walker, Michael E. (UMSL-Student)

Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 6:13 AM

Subject: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation

 

Hi, I am struggling to find reputable information that suggests using OneNote 2016 effectively on the job with jaws. What would you recommend? The Microsoft Disability answer desk is telling me to use one note for windows 10. However, there are security challenges in my company, because of how cloud centric that is. The only alternative I have found is to export OneNote 2016 notebooks to word or PDF. What are your thoughts? I am trying to work with my reasonable accommodation focal. Thank you.

 



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Jessica D
 

                Hi,

I found some scripts online, called OneNote blind, but I wasn’t able to install them on my machine, because a dialog told me I couldn’t.

What happened to cause this?

There were no details, just a close button.

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as areasonableaccommodation

 

 

 

But this is Microsoft Office we are talking about!  An Office product which is widely used across employment. How much more core could this be?

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: 14 November 2019 16:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as areasonableaccommodation

 

David,

I get your frustration, but I also think JAWS developers need to focus on the core products used by a majority of users. I could argue that Microsoft Project and Visio are mainline products that JAWS should support, but I also understand that it would take a lot of development hours to serve a small group of potential users of such visually based software. Far better that JAWS development focus on stability and features of mainline software.   Let those who have the know how and time develop scripts for less commonly used software.  You can’t get everything for free and companies have to choses were to spend development hours to meet the most needs.  Now, maybe Microsoft Narrator development will serve One Note. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonableaccommodation

 

 

As I understand it Jaws “out of the box” has never been able to work properly with One Note. For this reason someone in employment needs to buy 3rd party scripts to make them productive with One Note. This is especially the case  if they are using Jaws without sight.

I agree that it is not defensible for VFO to require their Users to purchase third  party scripts to make such a main stream Microsoft product work effectively for employees. It is a bit like requiring people by scripts to enable access to other parts of the same Office suite like  Word Excel or PowerPoint.

Scripts are a powerful extender to access with Jaws but should not be required for widely used mainstream employment products like Microsoft Office and the increasing used One Note. They should  come with Jaws. Scripts should be reserved / needed for vertical specialist employment software.

Having said that if you are employment now then I think you probably have little choice but to purchase scripts and the associated training to boost your productivity and protect yourself.

One example of the scripts at least are on.

https://www.hartgen.org/bhonenotewonder

David griffithSent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jessica D
Sent: 14 November 2019 04:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonableaccommodation

 

Hi,

When using onenote, jaws won't read the sidebar. 

I'm not even sure how to get to the sidebar. 

 

Has Freedom scientific given a training on this topic? 

If not, they definately should. 

 

Thanks,

Jessica 

 

 

On Nov 13, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:



I think you would need to be a bit more specific. What exactly does not work with your Office 365 installation?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation

 

Hi,

No, I think its onenote in general. 

Can anyone tell me how to get the office 365 version to work properly with jaws 2020? 

Thanks,

Jessica 

 

 

On Nov 13, 2019, at 7:46 PM, Michael Walker <michael.walker199014@...> wrote:



What note taking alternatives would you use?

 

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 5:07 PM Rod <rodalcidonis@...> wrote:

        Onenote does not work reliably with JAWS – I reported this to the accessibility desk a while ago. It is very sluggish and from my point of view unusable.

 

Rod,

 


Rod Alcidonis, Esq.

 

From: Walker, Michael E. (UMSL-Student)

Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 6:13 AM

Subject: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation

 

Hi, I am struggling to find reputable information that suggests using OneNote 2016 effectively on the job with jaws. What would you recommend? The Microsoft Disability answer desk is telling me to use one note for windows 10. However, there are security challenges in my company, because of how cloud centric that is. The only alternative I have found is to export OneNote 2016 notebooks to word or PDF. What are your thoughts? I am trying to work with my reasonable accommodation focal. Thank you.

 



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Rod
 

That’s why I always said JAWS is useful but a joke. Freedomscientific needs more competent leadership to address the Job Access part of the software. The updates have been gimmicks. Recently and still up to now, we have been having issues with track changes. This is a big joke in 2019.
 
 
 

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
 

From: David Griffith
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as areasonableaccommodation
 

 

 

But this is Microsoft Office we are talking about!  An Office product which is widely used across employment. How much more core could this be?

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: 14 November 2019 16:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as areasonableaccommodation

 

David,

I get your frustration, but I also think JAWS developers need to focus on the core products used by a majority of users. I could argue that Microsoft Project and Visio are mainline products that JAWS should support, but I also understand that it would take a lot of development hours to serve a small group of potential users of such visually based software. Far better that JAWS development focus on stability and features of mainline software.   Let those who have the know how and time develop scripts for less commonly used software.  You can’t get everything for free and companies have to choses were to spend development hours to meet the most needs.  Now, maybe Microsoft Narrator development will serve One Note. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonableaccommodation

 

 

As I understand it Jaws “out of the box” has never been able to work properly with One Note. For this reason someone in employment needs to buy 3rd party scripts to make them productive with One Note. This is especially the case  if they are using Jaws without sight.

I agree that it is not defensible for VFO to require their Users to purchase third  party scripts to make such a main stream Microsoft product work effectively for employees. It is a bit like requiring people by scripts to enable access to other parts of the same Office suite like  Word Excel or PowerPoint.

Scripts are a powerful extender to access with Jaws but should not be required for widely used mainstream employment products like Microsoft Office and the increasing used One Note. They should  come with Jaws. Scripts should be reserved / needed for vertical specialist employment software.

Having said that if you are employment now then I think you probably have little choice but to purchase scripts and the associated training to boost your productivity and protect yourself.

One example of the scripts at least are on.

https://www.hartgen.org/bhonenotewonder

David griffithSent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jessica D
Sent: 14 November 2019 04:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonableaccommodation

 

Hi,

When using onenote, jaws won't read the sidebar.

I'm not even sure how to get to the sidebar.

 

Has Freedom scientific given a training on this topic?

If not, they definately should.

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 

 

On Nov 13, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:



I think you would need to be a bit more specific. What exactly does not work with your Office 365 installation?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation

 

Hi,

No, I think its onenote in general.

Can anyone tell me how to get the office 365 version to work properly with jaws 2020?

Thanks,

Jessica

 

 

On Nov 13, 2019, at 7:46 PM, Michael Walker <michael.walker199014@...> wrote:



What note taking alternatives would you use?

 

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 5:07 PM Rod <rodalcidonis@...> wrote:

        Onenote does not work reliably with JAWS – I reported this to the accessibility desk a while ago. It is very sluggish and from my point of view unusable.

 

Rod,

 


Rod Alcidonis, Esq.

 

From: Walker, Michael E. (UMSL-Student)

Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 6:13 AM

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation

 

Hi, I am struggling to find reputable information that suggests using OneNote 2016 effectively on the job with jaws. What would you recommend? The Microsoft Disability answer desk is telling me to use one note for windows 10. However, there are security challenges in my company, because of how cloud centric that is. The only alternative I have found is to export OneNote 2016 notebooks to word or PDF. What are your thoughts? I am trying to work with my reasonable accommodation focal. Thank you.

 



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Walker, Michael E
 

I wouldn’t call JAWS a joke, or not job ready. I do agree that a lot of improvement is needed though, to allow more opportunities for employment.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rod
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as areasonableaccommodation

 

That’s why I always said JAWS is useful but a joke. Freedomscientific needs more competent leadership to address the Job Access part of the software. The updates have been gimmicks. Recently and still up to now, we have been having issues with track changes. This is a big joke in 2019.

 

 

 


Rod Alcidonis, Esq.

 

From: David Griffith

Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 12:10 PM

Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as areasonableaccommodation

 

 

 

But this is Microsoft Office we are talking about!  An Office product which is widely used across employment. How much more core could this be?

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: 14 November 2019 16:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as areasonableaccommodation

 

David,

I get your frustration, but I also think JAWS developers need to focus on the core products used by a majority of users. I could argue that Microsoft Project and Visio are mainline products that JAWS should support, but I also understand that it would take a lot of development hours to serve a small group of potential users of such visually based software. Far better that JAWS development focus on stability and features of mainline software.   Let those who have the know how and time develop scripts for less commonly used software.  You can’t get everything for free and companies have to choses were to spend development hours to meet the most needs.  Now, maybe Microsoft Narrator development will serve One Note. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonableaccommodation

 

 

As I understand it Jaws “out of the box” has never been able to work properly with One Note. For this reason someone in employment needs to buy 3rd party scripts to make them productive with One Note. This is especially the case  if they are using Jaws without sight.

I agree that it is not defensible for VFO to require their Users to purchase third  party scripts to make such a main stream Microsoft product work effectively for employees. It is a bit like requiring people by scripts to enable access to other parts of the same Office suite like  Word Excel or PowerPoint.

Scripts are a powerful extender to access with Jaws but should not be required for widely used mainstream employment products like Microsoft Office and the increasing used One Note. They should  come with Jaws. Scripts should be reserved / needed for vertical specialist employment software.

Having said that if you are employment now then I think you probably have little choice but to purchase scripts and the associated training to boost your productivity and protect yourself.

One example of the scripts at least are on.

https://www.hartgen.org/bhonenotewonder

David griffithSent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jessica D
Sent: 14 November 2019 04:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonableaccommodation

 

Hi,

When using onenote, jaws won't read the sidebar.

I'm not even sure how to get to the sidebar.

 

Has Freedom scientific given a training on this topic?

If not, they definately should.

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 

 

On Nov 13, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:



I think you would need to be a bit more specific. What exactly does not work with your Office 365 installation?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation

 

Hi,

No, I think its onenote in general.

Can anyone tell me how to get the office 365 version to work properly with jaws 2020?

Thanks,

Jessica

 

 

On Nov 13, 2019, at 7:46 PM, Michael Walker <michael.walker199014@...> wrote:



What note taking alternatives would you use?

 

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 5:07 PM Rod <rodalcidonis@...> wrote:

        Onenote does not work reliably with JAWS – I reported this to the accessibility desk a while ago. It is very sluggish and from my point of view unusable.

 

Rod,

 


Rod Alcidonis, Esq.

 

From: Walker, Michael E. (UMSL-Student)

Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 6:13 AM

Subject: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation

 

Hi, I am struggling to find reputable information that suggests using OneNote 2016 effectively on the job with jaws. What would you recommend? The Microsoft Disability answer desk is telling me to use one note for windows 10. However, there are security challenges in my company, because of how cloud centric that is. The only alternative I have found is to export OneNote 2016 notebooks to word or PDF. What are your thoughts? I am trying to work with my reasonable accommodation focal. Thank you.

 



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These were scripts developed by John Martin and they had to be purchased.

He has abandoned them, actually surprised you found them online, but you might as well forget about them.

I had purchased them years ago and they never were that great and then a year or so later his entire website including the BlindTunes scripts which were scripts he had written for iTunes as well as the OneNote ones all disappeared.

It was definitely a waste of $50 or whatever the exact price was, but it was around that.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 9:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as areasonableaccommodation

 

                Hi,

I found some scripts online, called OneNote blind, but I wasn’t able to install them on my machine, because a dialog told me I couldn’t.

What happened to cause this?

There were no details, just a close button.

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as areasonableaccommodation

 

 

 

But this is Microsoft Office we are talking about!  An Office product which is widely used across employment. How much more core could this be?

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: 14 November 2019 16:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as areasonableaccommodation

 

David,

I get your frustration, but I also think JAWS developers need to focus on the core products used by a majority of users. I could argue that Microsoft Project and Visio are mainline products that JAWS should support, but I also understand that it would take a lot of development hours to serve a small group of potential users of such visually based software. Far better that JAWS development focus on stability and features of mainline software.   Let those who have the know how and time develop scripts for less commonly used software.  You can’t get everything for free and companies have to choses were to spend development hours to meet the most needs.  Now, maybe Microsoft Narrator development will serve One Note. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonableaccommodation

 

 

As I understand it Jaws “out of the box” has never been able to work properly with One Note. For this reason someone in employment needs to buy 3rd party scripts to make them productive with One Note. This is especially the case  if they are using Jaws without sight.

I agree that it is not defensible for VFO to require their Users to purchase third  party scripts to make such a main stream Microsoft product work effectively for employees. It is a bit like requiring people by scripts to enable access to other parts of the same Office suite like  Word Excel or PowerPoint.

Scripts are a powerful extender to access with Jaws but should not be required for widely used mainstream employment products like Microsoft Office and the increasing used One Note. They should  come with Jaws. Scripts should be reserved / needed for vertical specialist employment software.

Having said that if you are employment now then I think you probably have little choice but to purchase scripts and the associated training to boost your productivity and protect yourself.

One example of the scripts at least are on.

https://www.hartgen.org/bhonenotewonder

David griffithSent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jessica D
Sent: 14 November 2019 04:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonableaccommodation

 

Hi,

When using onenote, jaws won't read the sidebar. 

I'm not even sure how to get to the sidebar. 

 

Has Freedom scientific given a training on this topic? 

If not, they definately should. 

 

Thanks,

Jessica 

 

 

On Nov 13, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:



I think you would need to be a bit more specific. What exactly does not work with your Office 365 installation?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation

 

Hi,

No, I think its onenote in general. 

Can anyone tell me how to get the office 365 version to work properly with jaws 2020? 

Thanks,

Jessica 

 

 

On Nov 13, 2019, at 7:46 PM, Michael Walker <michael.walker199014@...> wrote:



What note taking alternatives would you use?

 

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 5:07 PM Rod <rodalcidonis@...> wrote:

        Onenote does not work reliably with JAWS – I reported this to the accessibility desk a while ago. It is very sluggish and from my point of view unusable.

 

Rod,

 


Rod Alcidonis, Esq.

 

From: Walker, Michael E. (UMSL-Student)

Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 6:13 AM

Subject: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a reasonable accommodation

 

Hi, I am struggling to find reputable information that suggests using OneNote 2016 effectively on the job with jaws. What would you recommend? The Microsoft Disability answer desk is telling me to use one note for windows 10. However, there are security challenges in my company, because of how cloud centric that is. The only alternative I have found is to export OneNote 2016 notebooks to word or PDF. What are your thoughts? I am trying to work with my reasonable accommodation focal. Thank you.

 



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Mario
 

the scripts for thunderbird had a nice ease of use concept but hardly
worked. plus the built in help files weren't available as demonstrated
in his demonstrations even though he said that it was coming. never did
get them.

On 11/15/2019 1:58 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
These were scripts developed by John Martin and they had to be purchased.

He has abandoned them, actually surprised you found them online, but you
might as well forget about them.

I had purchased them years ago and they never were that great and then a
year or so later his entire website including the BlindTunes scripts
which were scripts he had written for iTunes as well as the OneNote ones
all disappeared.

It was definitely a waste of $50 or whatever the exact price was, but it
was around that.

Regards,

Sieghard

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io *On Behalf Of *Jessica D
*Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2019 9:22 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as
areasonableaccommodation

                Hi,

I found some scripts online, called OneNote blind, but I wasn’t able to
install them on my machine, because a dialog told me I couldn’t.

What happened to cause this?

There were no details, just a close button.

Thanks,

Jessica

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io *On Behalf Of *David
Griffith
*Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2019 12:10 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as
areasonableaccommodation

But this is Microsoft Office we are talking about!  An Office product
which is widely used across employment. How much more core could this be?

David Griffith

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 for
Windows 10

*From: *Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
<mailto:Robin_Van_Lant=Key.com@groups.io
*Sent: *14 November 2019 16:18
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject: *Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as
areasonableaccommodation

David,

I get your frustration, but I also think JAWS developers need to focus
on the core products used by a majority of users. I could argue that
Microsoft Project and Visio are mainline products that JAWS should
support, but I also understand that it would take a lot of development
hours to serve a small group of potential users of such visually based
software. Far better that JAWS development focus on stability and
features of mainline software.   Let those who have the know how and
time develop scripts for less commonly used software.  You can’t get
everything for free and companies have to choses were to spend
development hours to meet the most needs.  Now, maybe Microsoft Narrator
development will serve One Note.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io *On Behalf Of *David
Griffith
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:37 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a
reasonableaccommodation

As I understand it Jaws “out of the box” has never been able to work
properly with One Note. For this reason someone in employment needs to
buy 3^rd party scripts to make them productive with One Note. This is
especially the case  if they are using Jaws without sight.

I agree that it is not defensible for VFO to require their Users to
purchase third  party scripts to make such a main stream Microsoft
product work effectively for employees. It is a bit like requiring
people by scripts to enable access to other parts of the same Office
suite like  Word Excel or PowerPoint.

Scripts are a powerful extender to access with Jaws but should not be
required for widely used mainstream employment products like Microsoft
Office and the increasing used One Note. They should  come with Jaws.
Scripts should be reserved / needed for vertical specialist employment
software.

Having said that if you are employment now then I think you probably
have little choice but to purchase scripts and the associated training
to boost your productivity and protect yourself.

One example of the scripts at least are on.

https://www.hartgen.org/bhonenotewonder

David griffithSent from Mail
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*From: *Jessica D <mailto:jldail13@...
*Sent: *14 November 2019 04:27
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject: *Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a
reasonableaccommodation

Hi,

When using onenote, jaws won't read the sidebar.

I'm not even sure how to get to the sidebar.

Has Freedom scientific given a training on this topic?

If not, they definately should.

Thanks,

Jessica

On Nov 13, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard
<mailto:@Sieghard wrote:



I think you would need to be a bit more specific. What exactly does
not work with your Office 365 installation?

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io *On Behalf Of
*Jessica D
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 13, 2019 5:41 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a
reasonable accommodation

Hi,

No, I think its onenote in general.

Can anyone tell me how to get the office 365 version to work
properly with jaws 2020?

Thanks,

Jessica

On Nov 13, 2019, at 7:46 PM, Michael Walker
<michael.walker199014@...
<mailto:michael.walker199014@... wrote:



What note taking alternatives would you use?

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 5:07 PM Rod <rodalcidonis@...
<mailto:rodalcidonis@... wrote:

        Onenote does not work reliably with JAWS – I
reported this to the accessibility desk a while ago. It is
very sluggish and from my point of view unusable.

Rod,


Rod Alcidonis, Esq.

*From:*Walker, Michael E. (UMSL-Student)

*Sent:*Wednesday, November 13, 2019 6:13 AM

*To:*jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io

*Subject:*Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a
reasonable accommodation

Hi, I am struggling to find reputable information that
suggests using OneNote 2016 effectively on the job with
jaws. What would you recommend? The Microsoft Disability
answer desk is telling me to use one note for windows 10.
However, there are security challenges in my company,
because of how cloud centric that is. The only alternative I
have found is to export OneNote 2016 notebooks to word or
PDF. What are your thoughts? I am trying to work with my
reasonable accommodation focal. Thank you.



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