Chrome questions


Sandra Streeter
 

David, could you email me off-list and describe your experiences with Chrome? I’m on I.E., Win.7,  now, and wonder how far Chrome has come for screen-reader users; every so often, I see the little message about switching, but don’t know enough about the pros/cons. Thanks!
 
Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)



Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...>
 

I use it 90% of the time problem free, but I am in a teaching environment where I need to know all of the browsers in order to teach them. It works pretty much the same as FF or IE IMO, ha, ha.

HTH

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Chrome questions

 

David, could you email me off-list and describe your experiences with Chrome? I’m on I.E., Win.7,  now, and wonder how far Chrome has come for screen-reader users; every so often, I see the little message about switching, but don’t know enough about the pros/cons. Thanks!

 

Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)

 


Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I know I'm not David and I am posting this to the list since others might want to hear it too.

Chrome works very well with Jaws for the most part. It is much faster than IE and I prefer it over Firefox for every-day use.

One thing which does not work well with Crhome is to create PDF documents from web pages using the print function and virtual PDF printers such as the "Microsoft Print to PDF" printer which is available in Windows 10 or in Windows 7 I use Nuance Power PDF. If you use one of these to create a PPDF from IE oir Firefox the resulting PDF is accessible and Jaws can read it. If you do the same thing from Chrome the PDF is an image and only accessible by using Convenient OCR.

The other issue I found is that for me on a few websites Chrome does not read some content which IE and Firefox reads. For example, if I log into my Mastercard account and look at my transaction history, Chrome will read the column headings like transaction date, posting date, description and the amount, but it then skips right over the actual transactions which visually are on the screen and which IE and Firefox has no problems reading and which it does so beautrifully using table navigation commands..

Pretty much everything else Chrome does very nicely and, as I said, very quickly and a few websites definitely work much better with Chrome than they do with IE.

I think that currently browsers are like a hammer or a saw for a carpenter, you have a few different ones in your toolbox and while you may have a favourite there are situations where another one is better.

Since IE is on all Windows computers anyways you just have to install Chrome and, if you want, Firefox, try them out and set whichever one you like best as your default and then use the others as needed. They won't interfere with each other so it definitely doesn't hurt to have them available.

If you use Windows 10 you also have Edge on your computer and if you are a Jaws user you will be able to try it out fairly soon, if you also use NVDA you can already use it although I think for most of us Chrome or IE is still much more familiar.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Chrome questions

 

David, could you email me off-list and describe your experiences with Chrome? I’m on I.E., Win.7,  now, and wonder how far Chrome has come for screen-reader users; every so often, I see the little message about switching, but don’t know enough about the pros/cons. Thanks!

 

Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)

 


Sandra Streeter
 

To prime the pump a bit more—I know that, years ago, there were complaints about Chrome not meshing well with JAWS, and I wondered if most of the bugs have since been ironed out. Please continue to send comments—I’m interested.
 
 
 
Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)
 

Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: Chrome questions
 

I know I'm not David and I am posting this to the list since others might want to hear it too.

Chrome works very well with Jaws for the most part. It is much faster than IE and I prefer it over Firefox for every-day use.

One thing which does not work well with Crhome is to create PDF documents from web pages using the print function and virtual PDF printers such as the "Microsoft Print to PDF" printer which is available in Windows 10 or in Windows 7 I use Nuance Power PDF. If you use one of these to create a PPDF from IE oir Firefox the resulting PDF is accessible and Jaws can read it. If you do the same thing from Chrome the PDF is an image and only accessible by using Convenient OCR.

The other issue I found is that for me on a few websites Chrome does not read some content which IE and Firefox reads. For example, if I log into my Mastercard account and look at my transaction history, Chrome will read the column headings like transaction date, posting date, description and the amount, but it then skips right over the actual transactions which visually are on the screen and which IE and Firefox has no problems reading and which it does so beautrifully using table navigation commands..

Pretty much everything else Chrome does very nicely and, as I said, very quickly and a few websites definitely work much better with Chrome than they do with IE.

I think that currently browsers are like a hammer or a saw for a carpenter, you have a few different ones in your toolbox and while you may have a favourite there are situations where another one is better.

Since IE is on all Windows computers anyways you just have to install Chrome and, if you want, Firefox, try them out and set whichever one you like best as your default and then use the others as needed. They won't interfere with each other so it definitely doesn't hurt to have them available.

If you use Windows 10 you also have Edge on your computer and if you are a Jaws user you will be able to try it out fairly soon, if you also use NVDA you can already use it although I think for most of us Chrome or IE is still much more familiar.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Chrome questions

 

David, could you email me off-list and describe your experiences with Chrome? I’m on I.E., Win.7,  now, and wonder how far Chrome has come for screen-reader users; every so often, I see the little message about switching, but don’t know enough about the pros/cons. Thanks!

 

Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)

 




Don H
 

Chrome works well with NVDA.

On 7/25/2017 6:46 PM, Sandra Streeter wrote:
To prime the pump a bit more—I know that, years ago, there were complaints about Chrome not meshing well with JAWS, and I wondered if most of the bugs have since been ironed out. Please continue to send comments—I’m interested.
Sandra
One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)
*From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:sieghard@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:31 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Chrome questions
I know I'm not David and I am posting this to the list since others might want to hear it too.
Chrome works very well with Jaws for the most part. It is much faster than IE and I prefer it over Firefox for every-day use.
One thing which does not work well with Crhome is to create PDF documents from web pages using the print function and virtual PDF printers such as the "Microsoft Print to PDF" printer which is available in Windows 10 or in Windows 7 I use Nuance Power PDF. If you use one of these to create a PPDF from IE oir Firefox the resulting PDF is accessible and Jaws can read it. If you do the same thing from Chrome the PDF is an image and only accessible by using Convenient OCR.
The other issue I found is that for me on a few websites Chrome does not read some content which IE and Firefox reads. For example, if I log into my Mastercard account and look at my transaction history, Chrome will read the column headings like transaction date, posting date, description and the amount, but it then skips right over the actual transactions which visually are on the screen and which IE and Firefox has no problems reading and which it does so beautrifully using table navigation commands..
Pretty much everything else Chrome does very nicely and, as I said, very quickly and a few websites definitely work much better with Chrome than they do with IE.
I think that currently browsers are like a hammer or a saw for a carpenter, you have a few different ones in your toolbox and while you may have a favourite there are situations where another one is better.
Since IE is on all Windows computers anyways you just have to install Chrome and, if you want, Firefox, try them out and set whichever one you like best as your default and then use the others as needed. They won't interfere with each other so it definitely doesn't hurt to have them available.
If you use Windows 10 you also have Edge on your computer and if you are a Jaws user you will be able to try it out fairly soon, if you also use NVDA you can already use it although I think for most of us Chrome or IE is still much more familiar.
Regards,
Sieghard
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Sandra Streeter
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:08 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Chrome questions
David, could you email me off-list and describe your experiences with Chrome? I’m on I.E., Win.7, now, and wonder how far Chrome has come for screen-reader users; every so often, I see the little message about switching, but don’t know enough about the pros/cons. Thanks!
Sandra
One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)


Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Hi Sandra,

 

With the exception of these few issues I described Chrome works beautifully with Jaws and in my opinion is much better than IE and I also prefer it over Firefox.

There really isn't more I can say, you really should just download it and use it, after all it's free and as I said, it's much better to have two or three tools in the browser toolbox instead f just one.

I would say for 90% of the browsing I do Chrome is great and definitely a lot faster when it comes to loading pages and so on that IE ever was.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

To prime the pump a bit more—I know that, years ago, there were complaints about Chrome not meshing well with JAWS, and I wondered if most of the bugs have since been ironed out. Please continue to send comments—I’m interested.

 

 

 

Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)

 

Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:31 PM

Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

I know I'm not David and I am posting this to the list since others might want to hear it too.

Chrome works very well with Jaws for the most part. It is much faster than IE and I prefer it over Firefox for every-day use.

One thing which does not work well with Crhome is to create PDF documents from web pages using the print function and virtual PDF printers such as the "Microsoft Print to PDF" printer which is available in Windows 10 or in Windows 7 I use Nuance Power PDF. If you use one of these to create a PPDF from IE oir Firefox the resulting PDF is accessible and Jaws can read it. If you do the same thing from Chrome the PDF is an image and only accessible by using Convenient OCR.

The other issue I found is that for me on a few websites Chrome does not read some content which IE and Firefox reads. For example, if I log into my Mastercard account and look at my transaction history, Chrome will read the column headings like transaction date, posting date, description and the amount, but it then skips right over the actual transactions which visually are on the screen and which IE and Firefox has no problems reading and which it does so beautrifully using table navigation commands..

Pretty much everything else Chrome does very nicely and, as I said, very quickly and a few websites definitely work much better with Chrome than they do with IE.

I think that currently browsers are like a hammer or a saw for a carpenter, you have a few different ones in your toolbox and while you may have a favourite there are situations where another one is better.

Since IE is on all Windows computers anyways you just have to install Chrome and, if you want, Firefox, try them out and set whichever one you like best as your default and then use the others as needed. They won't interfere with each other so it definitely doesn't hurt to have them available.

If you use Windows 10 you also have Edge on your computer and if you are a Jaws user you will be able to try it out fairly soon, if you also use NVDA you can already use it although I think for most of us Chrome or IE is still much more familiar.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Chrome questions

 

David, could you email me off-list and describe your experiences with Chrome? I’m on I.E., Win.7,  now, and wonder how far Chrome has come for screen-reader users; every so often, I see the little message about switching, but don’t know enough about the pros/cons. Thanks!

 

Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)

 

 


Jason White
 

I use Chrome as my default browser, but still find it occasionally helpful to access certain sites with Firefox.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 5:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

Hi Sandra,

 

With the exception of these few issues I described Chrome works beautifully with Jaws and in my opinion is much better than IE and I also prefer it over Firefox.

There really isn't more I can say, you really should just download it and use it, after all it's free and as I said, it's much better to have two or three tools in the browser toolbox instead f just one.

I would say for 90% of the browsing I do Chrome is great and definitely a lot faster when it comes to loading pages and so on that IE ever was.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

To prime the pump a bit more—I know that, years ago, there were complaints about Chrome not meshing well with JAWS, and I wondered if most of the bugs have since been ironed out. Please continue to send comments—I’m interested.

 

 

 

Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)

 

Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:31 PM

Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

I know I'm not David and I am posting this to the list since others might want to hear it too.

Chrome works very well with Jaws for the most part. It is much faster than IE and I prefer it over Firefox for every-day use.

One thing which does not work well with Crhome is to create PDF documents from web pages using the print function and virtual PDF printers such as the "Microsoft Print to PDF" printer which is available in Windows 10 or in Windows 7 I use Nuance Power PDF. If you use one of these to create a PPDF from IE oir Firefox the resulting PDF is accessible and Jaws can read it. If you do the same thing from Chrome the PDF is an image and only accessible by using Convenient OCR.

The other issue I found is that for me on a few websites Chrome does not read some content which IE and Firefox reads. For example, if I log into my Mastercard account and look at my transaction history, Chrome will read the column headings like transaction date, posting date, description and the amount, but it then skips right over the actual transactions which visually are on the screen and which IE and Firefox has no problems reading and which it does so beautrifully using table navigation commands..

Pretty much everything else Chrome does very nicely and, as I said, very quickly and a few websites definitely work much better with Chrome than they do with IE.

I think that currently browsers are like a hammer or a saw for a carpenter, you have a few different ones in your toolbox and while you may have a favourite there are situations where another one is better.

Since IE is on all Windows computers anyways you just have to install Chrome and, if you want, Firefox, try them out and set whichever one you like best as your default and then use the others as needed. They won't interfere with each other so it definitely doesn't hurt to have them available.

If you use Windows 10 you also have Edge on your computer and if you are a Jaws user you will be able to try it out fairly soon, if you also use NVDA you can already use it although I think for most of us Chrome or IE is still much more familiar.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Chrome questions

 

David, could you email me off-list and describe your experiences with Chrome? I’m on I.E., Win.7,  now, and wonder how far Chrome has come for screen-reader users; every so often, I see the little message about switching, but don’t know enough about the pros/cons. Thanks!

 

Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)

 

 


David Moore
 

Hi all!

I echo Sieghard’s words about Chrome!

The only site that works a little better with IE is:

m.facebook.com

I do not use Firefox, for anything, because Chrome is so much faster.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 8:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

I use Chrome as my default browser, but still find it occasionally helpful to access certain sites with Firefox.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 5:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

Hi Sandra,

 

With the exception of these few issues I described Chrome works beautifully with Jaws and in my opinion is much better than IE and I also prefer it over Firefox.

There really isn't more I can say, you really should just download it and use it, after all it's free and as I said, it's much better to have two or three tools in the browser toolbox instead f just one.

I would say for 90% of the browsing I do Chrome is great and definitely a lot faster when it comes to loading pages and so on that IE ever was.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

To prime the pump a bit more—I know that, years ago, there were complaints about Chrome not meshing well with JAWS, and I wondered if most of the bugs have since been ironed out. Please continue to send comments—I’m interested.

 

 

 

Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)

 

Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:31 PM

Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

I know I'm not David and I am posting this to the list since others might want to hear it too.

Chrome works very well with Jaws for the most part. It is much faster than IE and I prefer it over Firefox for every-day use.

One thing which does not work well with Crhome is to create PDF documents from web pages using the print function and virtual PDF printers such as the "Microsoft Print to PDF" printer which is available in Windows 10 or in Windows 7 I use Nuance Power PDF. If you use one of these to create a PPDF from IE oir Firefox the resulting PDF is accessible and Jaws can read it. If you do the same thing from Chrome the PDF is an image and only accessible by using Convenient OCR.

The other issue I found is that for me on a few websites Chrome does not read some content which IE and Firefox reads. For example, if I log into my Mastercard account and look at my transaction history, Chrome will read the column headings like transaction date, posting date, description and the amount, but it then skips right over the actual transactions which visually are on the screen and which IE and Firefox has no problems reading and which it does so beautrifully using table navigation commands..

Pretty much everything else Chrome does very nicely and, as I said, very quickly and a few websites definitely work much better with Chrome than they do with IE.

I think that currently browsers are like a hammer or a saw for a carpenter, you have a few different ones in your toolbox and while you may have a favourite there are situations where another one is better.

Since IE is on all Windows computers anyways you just have to install Chrome and, if you want, Firefox, try them out and set whichever one you like best as your default and then use the others as needed. They won't interfere with each other so it definitely doesn't hurt to have them available.

If you use Windows 10 you also have Edge on your computer and if you are a Jaws user you will be able to try it out fairly soon, if you also use NVDA you can already use it although I think for most of us Chrome or IE is still much more familiar.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Chrome questions

 

David, could you email me off-list and describe your experiences with Chrome? I’m on I.E., Win.7,  now, and wonder how far Chrome has come for screen-reader users; every so often, I see the little message about switching, but don’t know enough about the pros/cons. Thanks!

 

Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)

 

 

 


David Moore
 

Hi Sandra!

99.5 percent has all been irened out!

Chrome works great now compared to just two years ago!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

To prime the pump a bit more—I know that, years ago, there were complaints about Chrome not meshing well with JAWS, and I wondered if most of the bugs have since been ironed out. Please continue to send comments—I’m interested.

 

 

 

Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)

 

Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:31 PM

Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

I know I'm not David and I am posting this to the list since others might want to hear it too.

Chrome works very well with Jaws for the most part. It is much faster than IE and I prefer it over Firefox for every-day use.

One thing which does not work well with Crhome is to create PDF documents from web pages using the print function and virtual PDF printers such as the "Microsoft Print to PDF" printer which is available in Windows 10 or in Windows 7 I use Nuance Power PDF. If you use one of these to create a PPDF from IE oir Firefox the resulting PDF is accessible and Jaws can read it. If you do the same thing from Chrome the PDF is an image and only accessible by using Convenient OCR.

The other issue I found is that for me on a few websites Chrome does not read some content which IE and Firefox reads. For example, if I log into my Mastercard account and look at my transaction history, Chrome will read the column headings like transaction date, posting date, description and the amount, but it then skips right over the actual transactions which visually are on the screen and which IE and Firefox has no problems reading and which it does so beautrifully using table navigation commands..

Pretty much everything else Chrome does very nicely and, as I said, very quickly and a few websites definitely work much better with Chrome than they do with IE.

I think that currently browsers are like a hammer or a saw for a carpenter, you have a few different ones in your toolbox and while you may have a favourite there are situations where another one is better.

Since IE is on all Windows computers anyways you just have to install Chrome and, if you want, Firefox, try them out and set whichever one you like best as your default and then use the others as needed. They won't interfere with each other so it definitely doesn't hurt to have them available.

If you use Windows 10 you also have Edge on your computer and if you are a Jaws user you will be able to try it out fairly soon, if you also use NVDA you can already use it although I think for most of us Chrome or IE is still much more familiar.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Chrome questions

 

David, could you email me off-list and describe your experiences with Chrome? I’m on I.E., Win.7,  now, and wonder how far Chrome has come for screen-reader users; every so often, I see the little message about switching, but don’t know enough about the pros/cons. Thanks!

 

Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)

 

 

 


Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

I found bookmarks in Chrome needed a lot more steps to access than in I E; is there something I am missing?

Thank you,

Kevin.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: July 26, 2017 5:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

I use Chrome as my default browser, but still find it occasionally helpful to access certain sites with Firefox.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 5:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

Hi Sandra,

 

With the exception of these few issues I described Chrome works beautifully with Jaws and in my opinion is much better than IE and I also prefer it over Firefox.

There really isn't more I can say, you really should just download it and use it, after all it's free and as I said, it's much better to have two or three tools in the browser toolbox instead f just one.

I would say for 90% of the browsing I do Chrome is great and definitely a lot faster when it comes to loading pages and so on that IE ever was.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

To prime the pump a bit more—I know that, years ago, there were complaints about Chrome not meshing well with JAWS, and I wondered if most of the bugs have since been ironed out. Please continue to send comments—I’m interested.

 

 

 

Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)

 

Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:31 PM

Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

I know I'm not David and I am posting this to the list since others might want to hear it too.

Chrome works very well with Jaws for the most part. It is much faster than IE and I prefer it over Firefox for every-day use.

One thing which does not work well with Crhome is to create PDF documents from web pages using the print function and virtual PDF printers such as the "Microsoft Print to PDF" printer which is available in Windows 10 or in Windows 7 I use Nuance Power PDF. If you use one of these to create a PPDF from IE oir Firefox the resulting PDF is accessible and Jaws can read it. If you do the same thing from Chrome the PDF is an image and only accessible by using Convenient OCR.

The other issue I found is that for me on a few websites Chrome does not read some content which IE and Firefox reads. For example, if I log into my Mastercard account and look at my transaction history, Chrome will read the column headings like transaction date, posting date, description and the amount, but it then skips right over the actual transactions which visually are on the screen and which IE and Firefox has no problems reading and which it does so beautrifully using table navigation commands..

Pretty much everything else Chrome does very nicely and, as I said, very quickly and a few websites definitely work much better with Chrome than they do with IE.

I think that currently browsers are like a hammer or a saw for a carpenter, you have a few different ones in your toolbox and while you may have a favourite there are situations where another one is better.

Since IE is on all Windows computers anyways you just have to install Chrome and, if you want, Firefox, try them out and set whichever one you like best as your default and then use the others as needed. They won't interfere with each other so it definitely doesn't hurt to have them available.

If you use Windows 10 you also have Edge on your computer and if you are a Jaws user you will be able to try it out fairly soon, if you also use NVDA you can already use it although I think for most of us Chrome or IE is still much more familiar.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Chrome questions

 

David, could you email me off-list and describe your experiences with Chrome? I’m on I.E., Win.7,  now, and wonder how far Chrome has come for screen-reader users; every so often, I see the little message about switching, but don’t know enough about the pros/cons. Thanks!

 

Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)

 

 


Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

History and Book marks are terrible compared to IE. If i want to use either I use IE.
On 7/26/2017 7:36 PM, Kevin Hourigan wrote:

I found bookmarks in Chrome needed a lot more steps to access than in I E; is there something I am missing?

Thank you,

Kevin.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: July 26, 2017 5:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

I use Chrome as my default browser, but still find it occasionally helpful to access certain sites with Firefox.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 5:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

Hi Sandra,

 

With the exception of these few issues I described Chrome works beautifully with Jaws and in my opinion is much better than IE and I also prefer it over Firefox.

There really isn't more I can say, you really should just download it and use it, after all it's free and as I said, it's much better to have two or three tools in the browser toolbox instead f just one.

I would say for 90% of the browsing I do Chrome is great and definitely a lot faster when it comes to loading pages and so on that IE ever was.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

To prime the pump a bit more—I know that, years ago, there were complaints about Chrome not meshing well with JAWS, and I wondered if most of the bugs have since been ironed out. Please continue to send comments—I’m interested.

 

 

 

Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)

 

Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:31 PM

Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

I know I'm not David and I am posting this to the list since others might want to hear it too.

Chrome works very well with Jaws for the most part. It is much faster than IE and I prefer it over Firefox for every-day use.

One thing which does not work well with Crhome is to create PDF documents from web pages using the print function and virtual PDF printers such as the "Microsoft Print to PDF" printer which is available in Windows 10 or in Windows 7 I use Nuance Power PDF. If you use one of these to create a PPDF from IE oir Firefox the resulting PDF is accessible and Jaws can read it. If you do the same thing from Chrome the PDF is an image and only accessible by using Convenient OCR.

The other issue I found is that for me on a few websites Chrome does not read some content which IE and Firefox reads. For example, if I log into my Mastercard account and look at my transaction history, Chrome will read the column headings like transaction date, posting date, description and the amount, but it then skips right over the actual transactions which visually are on the screen and which IE and Firefox has no problems reading and which it does so beautrifully using table navigation commands..

Pretty much everything else Chrome does very nicely and, as I said, very quickly and a few websites definitely work much better with Chrome than they do with IE.

I think that currently browsers are like a hammer or a saw for a carpenter, you have a few different ones in your toolbox and while you may have a favourite there are situations where another one is better.

Since IE is on all Windows computers anyways you just have to install Chrome and, if you want, Firefox, try them out and set whichever one you like best as your default and then use the others as needed. They won't interfere with each other so it definitely doesn't hurt to have them available.

If you use Windows 10 you also have Edge on your computer and if you are a Jaws user you will be able to try it out fairly soon, if you also use NVDA you can already use it although I think for most of us Chrome or IE is still much more familiar.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Chrome questions

 

David, could you email me off-list and describe your experiences with Chrome? I’m on I.E., Win.7,  now, and wonder how far Chrome has come for screen-reader users; every so often, I see the little message about switching, but don’t know enough about the pros/cons. Thanks!

 

Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)

 

 



Sharon
 

Where do you get a list of keystrokes?

How do you download it?

Sharon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 8:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

Hi Sandra!

99.5 percent has all been irened out!

Chrome works great now compared to just two years ago!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

To prime the pump a bit more—I know that, years ago, there were complaints about Chrome not meshing well with JAWS, and I wondered if most of the bugs have since been ironed out. Please continue to send comments—I’m interested.

 

 

 

Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)

 

Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:31 PM

Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

I know I'm not David and I am posting this to the list since others might want to hear it too.

Chrome works very well with Jaws for the most part. It is much faster than IE and I prefer it over Firefox for every-day use.

One thing which does not work well with Crhome is to create PDF documents from web pages using the print function and virtual PDF printers such as the "Microsoft Print to PDF" printer which is available in Windows 10 or in Windows 7 I use Nuance Power PDF. If you use one of these to create a PPDF from IE oir Firefox the resulting PDF is accessible and Jaws can read it. If you do the same thing from Chrome the PDF is an image and only accessible by using Convenient OCR.

The other issue I found is that for me on a few websites Chrome does not read some content which IE and Firefox reads. For example, if I log into my Mastercard account and look at my transaction history, Chrome will read the column headings like transaction date, posting date, description and the amount, but it then skips right over the actual transactions which visually are on the screen and which IE and Firefox has no problems reading and which it does so beautrifully using table navigation commands..

Pretty much everything else Chrome does very nicely and, as I said, very quickly and a few websites definitely work much better with Chrome than they do with IE.

I think that currently browsers are like a hammer or a saw for a carpenter, you have a few different ones in your toolbox and while you may have a favourite there are situations where another one is better.

Since IE is on all Windows computers anyways you just have to install Chrome and, if you want, Firefox, try them out and set whichever one you like best as your default and then use the others as needed. They won't interfere with each other so it definitely doesn't hurt to have them available.

If you use Windows 10 you also have Edge on your computer and if you are a Jaws user you will be able to try it out fairly soon, if you also use NVDA you can already use it although I think for most of us Chrome or IE is still much more familiar.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Chrome questions

 

David, could you email me off-list and describe your experiences with Chrome? I’m on I.E., Win.7,  now, and wonder how far Chrome has come for screen-reader users; every so often, I see the little message about switching, but don’t know enough about the pros/cons. Thanks!

 

Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)

 

 

 


Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Just google, “google chrome”, and it should come right up.

 

Google Chrome Shortcut Keys

Description

Alt+Home

Open your homepage.

Alt+Tab

Toggle between browser windows

Alt+Left Arrow

Back a page.

Alt+Right Arrow

Forward a page.

F11

Display the current website in full-screen mode. Pressing F11 again will exit this mode.

Esc

Stop page or download from loading.

Ctrl+(- or +)

Zoom in our out of a page '-' will decrease and '+' will increase. Ctrl+0 will reset back to default.

Ctrl+1-8

Pressing Ctrl and any number 1 through 8 will move to the corresponding tab in your tab bar.

Ctrl+9

Switch to last tab.

Ctrl+0

Reset browser zoom to default

Ctrl+Enter

Quickly complete an address. For example, type computerhope in the address bar and press Ctrl+Enter to get https://www.computerhope.com.

Ctrl+Shift+Del

Open the Clear Data window to quickly clear private data.

Ctrl+Shift+B

Toggle the bookmarks bar between hidden and shown

Ctrl+A

Select everything on a page

Ctrl+D

Add a bookmark for the page currently opened.

Ctrl+F

Open the "find" bar to search text on the current page

Ctrl+O

Open a file in the browser

Ctrl+Shift+O

Open the Bookmark manager.

Ctrl+H

Open history in a new tab

Ctrl+J

Display the downloads window

Ctrl+K or Ctrl+E

Perform a Google search

Ctrl+L

Move the cursor to the browser address bar and highlight everything in it.

Ctrl+N

Open New browser window.

Ctrl+Shift+N

Open a new window in incognito (private) mode.

Ctrl+P

Print current page or frame.

Ctrl+R or F5

Refresh the current page or frame.

Ctrl+S

Saves the current page

Ctrl+T

Opens a new tab.

Ctrl+U

View a web page's source code

Ctrl+W

Closes the currently selected tab.

Ctrl+Shift+W

Closes the currently selected window.

Ctrl+Shift+T

Reopens the last tab you've closed (up to 10).

Ctrl+Tab

Moves through each of the open tabs.

Ctrl+Left-click

Open the link in a new tab in the background

Ctrl+Shift Left-click

Open the link in a new tab and switch to the new tab

Spacebar

Moves down a page at a time.

Shift+Spacebar

Moves up a page at a time.

Home

Go to top of page

End

Go to bottom of page

Alt+Down Arrow

Display all previous text entered in a text box and available options on a drop-down menu.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: July 27, 2017 7:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

Where do you get a list of keystrokes?

How do you download it?

Sharon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 8:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

Hi Sandra!

99.5 percent has all been irened out!

Chrome works great now compared to just two years ago!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

To prime the pump a bit more—I know that, years ago, there were complaints about Chrome not meshing well with JAWS, and I wondered if most of the bugs have since been ironed out. Please continue to send comments—I’m interested.

 

 

 

Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)

 

Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:31 PM

Subject: Re: Chrome questions

 

I know I'm not David and I am posting this to the list since others might want to hear it too.

Chrome works very well with Jaws for the most part. It is much faster than IE and I prefer it over Firefox for every-day use.

One thing which does not work well with Crhome is to create PDF documents from web pages using the print function and virtual PDF printers such as the "Microsoft Print to PDF" printer which is available in Windows 10 or in Windows 7 I use Nuance Power PDF. If you use one of these to create a PPDF from IE oir Firefox the resulting PDF is accessible and Jaws can read it. If you do the same thing from Chrome the PDF is an image and only accessible by using Convenient OCR.

The other issue I found is that for me on a few websites Chrome does not read some content which IE and Firefox reads. For example, if I log into my Mastercard account and look at my transaction history, Chrome will read the column headings like transaction date, posting date, description and the amount, but it then skips right over the actual transactions which visually are on the screen and which IE and Firefox has no problems reading and which it does so beautrifully using table navigation commands..

Pretty much everything else Chrome does very nicely and, as I said, very quickly and a few websites definitely work much better with Chrome than they do with IE.

I think that currently browsers are like a hammer or a saw for a carpenter, you have a few different ones in your toolbox and while you may have a favourite there are situations where another one is better.

Since IE is on all Windows computers anyways you just have to install Chrome and, if you want, Firefox, try them out and set whichever one you like best as your default and then use the others as needed. They won't interfere with each other so it definitely doesn't hurt to have them available.

If you use Windows 10 you also have Edge on your computer and if you are a Jaws user you will be able to try it out fairly soon, if you also use NVDA you can already use it although I think for most of us Chrome or IE is still much more familiar.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Chrome questions

 

David, could you email me off-list and describe your experiences with Chrome? I’m on I.E., Win.7,  now, and wonder how far Chrome has come for screen-reader users; every so often, I see the little message about switching, but don’t know enough about the pros/cons. Thanks!

 

Sandra

One can never consent to creep, when one feels an impulse to soar.
(Helen Keller)