JAWS packaging


Joseph Norton
 

Hi listers:

 

I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little surprised by the JAWS package.

 

They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS (which is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with cassette tone-indexing marks).  In the package, I found a bifold sleve containing the Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple Braille sheets about the SMA, a large print document (which I assume is the quick reference), and a Braille quick reference booklet.  I did not find any instructions on installing JAWS, unless it was in the large print document I couldn’t read.  Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.

 

I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to install it and doesn’t need any help.  Or, are they falling down on the job?

 

Any thoughts.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Or, is it that they have improved the Jaws install process so special instructions are no longer necessary?

 

AT least they still include some braille information.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS packaging

 

Hi listers:

 

I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little surprised by the JAWS package.

 

They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS (which is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with cassette tone-indexing marks).  In the package, I found a bifold sleve containing the Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple Braille sheets about the SMA, a large print document (which I assume is the quick reference), and a Braille quick reference booklet.  I did not find any instructions on installing JAWS, unless it was in the large print document I couldn’t read.  Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.

 

I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to install it and doesn’t need any help.  Or, are they falling down on the job?

 

Any thoughts.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

There is no way that all JAWS users are going to have the slightest idea how to load the thing. Some will, some will not.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

Or, is it that they have improved the Jaws install process so special instructions are no longer necessary?



AT least they still include some braille information.



Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS packaging



Hi listers:



I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little surprised by the JAWS package.



They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS (which is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with cassette tone-indexing marks). In the package, I found a bifold sleve containing the Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple Braille sheets about the SMA, a large print document (which I assume is the quick reference), and a Braille quick reference booklet. I did not find any instructions on installing JAWS, unless it was in the large print document I couldn’t read. Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.



I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to install it and doesn’t need any help. Or, are they falling down on the job?



Any thoughts.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10


Soronel Haetir
 

It wouldn't surprise me if the main disc has that information now, I
am pretty sure it is a DVD now so space is no longer any sort of
issue.

On 7/25/17, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> wrote:
There is no way that all JAWS users are going to have the slightest idea how
to load the thing. Some will, some will not.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

Or, is it that they have improved the Jaws install process so special
instructions are no longer necessary?



AT least they still include some braille information.



Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Norton
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS packaging



Hi listers:



I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little surprised
by the JAWS package.



They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS (which
is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with cassette
tone-indexing marks). In the package, I found a bifold sleve containing the
Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple Braille sheets about the SMA,
a large print document (which I assume is the quick reference), and a
Braille quick reference booklet. I did not find any instructions on
installing JAWS, unless it was in the large print document I couldn’t read.
Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.



I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to install it
and doesn’t need any help. Or, are they falling down on the job?



Any thoughts.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
10








--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Soronel Haetir
 

I should also add that my jaws package (either 7 or 8) is a tri-fold.
It has the main installation media, a disc with the RealSpeak 32-bit
SAPI voices and the authorization CD (that latter is the only reason I
kept the install sleeve all this time). It does not have a separate
disc with instructions.

On 7/25/17, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if the main disc has that information now, I
am pretty sure it is a DVD now so space is no longer any sort of
issue.

On 7/25/17, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> wrote:
There is no way that all JAWS users are going to have the slightest idea
how
to load the thing. Some will, some will not.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

Or, is it that they have improved the Jaws install process so special
instructions are no longer necessary?



AT least they still include some braille information.



Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Norton
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS packaging



Hi listers:



I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little
surprised
by the JAWS package.



They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS
(which
is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with cassette
tone-indexing marks). In the package, I found a bifold sleve containing
the
Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple Braille sheets about the
SMA,
a large print document (which I assume is the quick reference), and a
Braille quick reference booklet. I did not find any instructions on
installing JAWS, unless it was in the large print document I couldn’t
read.
Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.



I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to install it
and doesn’t need any help. Or, are they falling down on the job?



Any thoughts.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows
10









--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com
--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I certainly wouldn't expect cassette tapes any more these days and apart from that installing Jaws is so easy that I really don't see the need for a tutorial. Stick the dVD in the drive and it will start up, you click next a few times and it's done. OK, maybe I am over-simplifying this a bit since you may have to select "Install Jaws" or whatever, the fact is I haven't installed Jaws from DVD in many many years and neither have I used the authorization CD. But certainly it can't be much more difficult than running the downloaded file, if I install on a new computer I always just select to authorize manually and then copy and paste the key into the edit field.
I guess if somebody doesn't know how to get started at all that tech support would be more than happy to walk them through the process over the phone. I am always surprised when a new version comes out that I still get the DVD in the mail.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

I should also add that my jaws package (either 7 or 8) is a tri-fold.
It has the main installation media, a disc with the RealSpeak 32-bit SAPI voices and the authorization CD (that latter is the only reason I kept the install sleeve all this time). It does not have a separate disc with instructions.

On 7/25/17, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if the main disc has that information now, I
am pretty sure it is a DVD now so space is no longer any sort of
issue.

On 7/25/17, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> wrote:
There is no way that all JAWS users are going to have the slightest
idea how to load the thing. Some will, some will not.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

Or, is it that they have improved the Jaws install process so special
instructions are no longer necessary?



AT least they still include some braille information.



Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Joseph Norton
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS packaging



Hi listers:



I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little
surprised by the JAWS package.



They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS
(which is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with
cassette tone-indexing marks). In the package, I found a bifold
sleve containing the Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple
Braille sheets about the SMA, a large print document (which I assume
is the quick reference), and a Braille quick reference booklet. I
did not find any instructions on installing JAWS, unless it was in
the large print document I couldn’t read.
Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.



I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to
install it and doesn’t need any help. Or, are they falling down on the job?



Any thoughts.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows
10









--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Joseph Norton
 

If I had never used a computer before and had no sighted assistance, I’m not sure if I’d know what to do with the package I received.

 

Seems like I remember a note in Braille on an older cd cover saying to run “d:setup.exe”, but, can’t remember for sure.

 

I checked the DVD and found nothing but the Basic Training materials.  Admittedly, they’re great, but, there’s also some stuff on the getting started recording only downloadable from the training downloads page.  A new user wouldn’t know how to get to that at all.

 

Most folks, though, would have some help the first time, so, I guess they figured it would be enough.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

 

There is no way that all JAWS users are going to have the slightest idea how to load the thing. Some will, some will not.

 

Best from,

 

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:04 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

 

Or, is it that they have improved the Jaws install process so special instructions are no longer necessary?

 

 

AT least they still include some braille information.

 

 

Richard

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton

Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:58 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: JAWS packaging

 

 

Hi listers:

 

 

I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little surprised by the JAWS package.

 

 

They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS (which is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with cassette tone-indexing marks).  In the package, I found a bifold sleve containing the Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple Braille sheets about the SMA, a large print document (which I assume is the quick reference), and a Braille quick reference booklet.  I did not find any instructions on installing JAWS, unless it was in the large print document I couldn’t read.  Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.

 

 

I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to install it and doesn’t need any help.  Or, are they falling down on the job?

 

 

Any thoughts.

 

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Joseph Norton
 

Hi:

 

On Windows 8 and later, you get a chime sound, with a visual alert which alerts you to the insertion of a CD or DVD.  I think you have to click on that to get an option to autorun, but, the CD or DVD doesn’t automatically start.  If you’re using a keyboard, you probably will need to know what to type, not just a matter of pressing Enter.  In addition, there’s the User Account Control dialog that pops up.  Usually, you press alt-y to say yes, but, again, you have to know this.

 

Another thing in Windows 8 and later.  If you set them up using a Microsoft account (which MS recommends), after the first reboot (after the JAWS install is finished), you will need to know how to log back into the system before JAWS will speak.  JAWS does not start at the logon screen until after you explicitly tell it to later on.

 

Right now, best thing is to have a sighted person there for the first little while until you get everything speaking.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

 

I certainly wouldn't expect cassette tapes any more these days and apart from that installing Jaws is so easy that I really don't see the need for a tutorial. Stick the dVD in the drive and it will start up, you click next a few times and it's done. OK, maybe I am over-simplifying this a bit since you may have to select "Install Jaws" or whatever, the fact is I haven't installed Jaws from DVD in many many years and neither have I used the authorization CD. But certainly it can't be much more difficult than running the downloaded file, if I install on a new computer I always just select to authorize manually and then copy and paste the key into the edit field.

I guess if somebody doesn't know how to get started at all that tech support would be more than happy to walk them through the process over the phone. I am always surprised when a new version comes out that I still get the DVD in the mail.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir

Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 8:31 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

 

I should also add that my jaws package (either 7 or 8) is a tri-fold.

It has the main installation media, a disc with the RealSpeak 32-bit SAPI voices and the authorization CD (that latter is the only reason I kept the install sleeve all this time). It does not have a separate disc with instructions.

 

On 7/25/17, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@...> wrote:

> It wouldn't surprise me if the main disc has that information now, I

> am pretty sure it is a DVD now so space is no longer any sort of

> issue.

> On 7/25/17, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:

>> There is no way that all JAWS users are going to have the slightest

>> idea how to load the thing. Some will, some will not.

>> 

>> Best from,

>> 

>> Carolyn

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

>> Richard Turner

>> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:04 AM

>> To: main@jfw.groups.io

>> Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

>> 

>> Or, is it that they have improved the Jaws install process so special

>> instructions are no longer necessary?

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> AT least they still include some braille information.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Richard

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

>> Joseph Norton

>> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:58 AM

>> To: main@jfw.groups.io

>> Subject: JAWS packaging

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Hi listers:

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little

>> surprised by the JAWS package.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS

>> (which is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with

>> cassette tone-indexing marks).  In the package, I found a bifold

>> sleve containing the Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple

>> Braille sheets about the SMA, a large print document (which I assume

>> is the quick reference), and a Braille quick reference booklet.  I

>> did not find any instructions on installing JAWS, unless it was in

>> the large print document I couldn’t read.

>> Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to

>> install it and doesn’t need any help.  Or, are they falling down on the job?

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Any thoughts.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for

>> Windows

>> 10

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>>

>> 

>> 

> --

> Soronel Haetir

> soronel.haetir@...

 

 

--

Soronel Haetir

soronel.haetir@...

 

 

 

 

 

 


Soronel Haetir
 

And braille wouldn't help me at all.

I wonder what percent of their user base is like that. I was told that
at the age I went blind - finally had to go to a screen reader rather
than magnifier in my late 20s - that it was unlikely that I would ever
become proficient enough with braille for more than short labels.

On 7/25/17, Joseph Norton <joseph.norton@gmail.com> wrote:
If I had never used a computer before and had no sighted assistance, I’m not
sure if I’d know what to do with the package I received.

Seems like I remember a note in Braille on an older cd cover saying to run
“d:setup.exe”, but, can’t remember for sure.

I checked the DVD and found nothing but the Basic Training materials.
Admittedly, they’re great, but, there’s also some stuff on the getting
started recording only downloadable from the training downloads page. A new
user wouldn’t know how to get to that at all.

Most folks, though, would have some help the first time, so, I guess they
figured it would be enough.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

There is no way that all JAWS users are going to have the slightest idea how
to load the thing. Some will, some will not.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

Or, is it that they have improved the Jaws install process so special
instructions are no longer necessary?



AT least they still include some braille information.



Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Norton
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS packaging



Hi listers:



I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little surprised
by the JAWS package.



They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS (which
is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with cassette
tone-indexing marks). In the package, I found a bifold sleve containing the
Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple Braille sheets about the SMA,
a large print document (which I assume is the quick reference), and a
Braille quick reference booklet. I did not find any instructions on
installing JAWS, unless it was in the large print document I couldn’t read.
Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.



I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to install it
and doesn’t need any help. Or, are they falling down on the job?



Any thoughts.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
10









--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Joseph Norton
 

That’s a good question.

 

I do know a blind fellow learned braille in his late 30’s or 40’s, later taught himself grade II from a brochure on learning grade II that was thrown in the trash.  He never got real fast, but, could follow along in most anything he wanted to read.

 

Everyone is different.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

 

And braille wouldn't help me at all.

 

I wonder what percent of their user base is like that. I was told that

at the age I went blind - finally had to go to a screen reader rather

than magnifier in my late 20s - that it was unlikely that I would ever

become proficient enough with braille for more than short labels.

 

On 7/25/17, Joseph Norton <joseph.norton@...> wrote:

> If I had never used a computer before and had no sighted assistance, I’m not

> sure if I’d know what to do with the package I received.

> Seems like I remember a note in Braille on an older cd cover saying to run

> “d:setup.exe”, but, can’t remember for sure.

> I checked the DVD and found nothing but the Basic Training materials.

> Admittedly, they’re great, but, there’s also some stuff on the getting

> started recording only downloadable from the training downloads page.  A new

> user wouldn’t know how to get to that at all.

> Most folks, though, would have some help the first time, so, I guess they

> figured it would be enough.

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> From: Carolyn Arnold

> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:27 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

> There is no way that all JAWS users are going to have the slightest idea how

> to load the thing. Some will, some will not.

> Best from,

> Carolyn

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard

> Turner

> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:04 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

> Or, is it that they have improved the Jaws install process so special

> instructions are no longer necessary?

> AT least they still include some braille information.

> Richard

> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph

> Norton

> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:58 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: JAWS packaging

> Hi listers:

> I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little surprised

> by the JAWS package.

> They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS (which

> is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with cassette

> tone-indexing marks).  In the package, I found a bifold sleve containing the

> Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple Braille sheets about the SMA,

> a large print document (which I assume is the quick reference), and a

> Braille quick reference booklet.  I did not find any instructions on

> installing JAWS, unless it was in the large print document I couldn’t read.

> Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.

> I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to install it

> and doesn’t need any help.  Or, are they falling down on the job?

> Any thoughts.

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows

> 10

 

 

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Soronel Haetir
 

The other thing to keep in mind, in the time since I started using
jaws narrator has improved a great deal .Narrator is now capable
enough to download the jaws installer off the web and run that rather
than needing any physical media at all (except perhaps the
authorization CD, which I still use rather than keeping that as text
somewhere). When I started using jaws it was pretty much all narrator
could handle just to browse to the setup file on the installation
disc.

On 7/25/17, Joseph Norton <joseph.norton@gmail.com> wrote:
That’s a good question.

I do know a blind fellow learned braille in his late 30’s or 40’s, later
taught himself grade II from a brochure on learning grade II that was thrown
in the trash. He never got real fast, but, could follow along in most
anything he wanted to read.

Everyone is different.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

And braille wouldn't help me at all.

I wonder what percent of their user base is like that. I was told that
at the age I went blind - finally had to go to a screen reader rather
than magnifier in my late 20s - that it was unlikely that I would ever
become proficient enough with braille for more than short labels.

On 7/25/17, Joseph Norton <joseph.norton@gmail.com> wrote:
If I had never used a computer before and had no sighted assistance, I’m
not
sure if I’d know what to do with the package I received.

Seems like I remember a note in Braille on an older cd cover saying to
run
“d:setup.exe”, but, can’t remember for sure.

I checked the DVD and found nothing but the Basic Training materials.
Admittedly, they’re great, but, there’s also some stuff on the getting
started recording only downloadable from the training downloads page. A
new
user wouldn’t know how to get to that at all.

Most folks, though, would have some help the first time, so, I guess they
figured it would be enough.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

There is no way that all JAWS users are going to have the slightest idea
how
to load the thing. Some will, some will not.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS packaging

Or, is it that they have improved the Jaws install process so special
instructions are no longer necessary?



AT least they still include some braille information.



Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Norton
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS packaging



Hi listers:



I just obtained JAWS through my Voc Rehab office and was a little
surprised
by the JAWS package.



They used to package with an instructional CD on how to install JAWS
(which
is still downloadable from the Web site, complete with cassette
tone-indexing marks). In the package, I found a bifold sleve containing
the
Program DVD and the Authorization CD, a couple Braille sheets about the
SMA,
a large print document (which I assume is the quick reference), and a
Braille quick reference booklet. I did not find any instructions on
installing JAWS, unless it was in the large print document I couldn’t
read.
Of course, I am quite familiar with such procedures myself.



I guess, by now, they figure anyone who orders it knows how to install it
and doesn’t need any help. Or, are they falling down on the job?



Any thoughts.



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