moderated Creating forms


HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi fellow Listerrs,

 

Has anyone had any success with accessible form creation software. I was sent a form from the government. They claim that it is accessible to screen readers, but that is not actually factual. It is as accessible as Donald Trumps tax records. If anyone can help in this matter, it would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thx,


 

One can create perfectly accessible forms with Microsoft Word, but it seems virtually no one knows how to do it.

Here's a very simple one I created several years ago for someone working at a local school.  She needed to be able to fill out what they call "bus notes" that allowed a student to vary from the normal routine.

Every checkbox and form field is announced as you tab through the document that is created by using this form template as its basis.  Having it selected and hitting enter should open Word with "Document 1" having been created, which is an un-filled-out bus note.

Sample Bus Note Form Document Template (dotx)

There are many fillable PDF forms that are accessible, and others that are not because adequate labeling of the various checkboxes, edit boxes, radio buttons has not been done.  I don't have the software to create fillable PDF forms, though.

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HH. Smith Jr.
 

Thanks,

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 7:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating forms

 

One can create perfectly accessible forms with Microsoft Word, but it seems virtually no one knows how to do it.

Here's a very simple one I created several years ago for someone working at a local school.  She needed to be able to fill out what they call "bus notes" that allowed a student to vary from the normal routine.

Every checkbox and form field is announced as you tab through the document that is created by using this form template as its basis.  Having it selected and hitting enter should open Word with "Document 1" having been created, which is an un-filled-out bus note.

Sample Bus Note Form Document Template (dotx)

There are many fillable PDF forms that are accessible, and others that are not because adequate labeling of the various checkboxes, edit boxes, radio buttons has not been done.  I don't have the software to create fillable PDF forms, though.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


Cher
 

I created dozens while working for the state of TN, but as Word versions evolved, I lost the ability to access some of the form controls I needed. I gave up with version 2007- and don’t know if accessibility improved or deteriorated further after that.

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 7:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating forms

 

One can create perfectly accessible forms with Microsoft Word, but it seems virtually no one knows how to do it.

Here's a very simple one I created several years ago for someone working at a local school.  She needed to be able to fill out what they call "bus notes" that allowed a student to vary from the normal routine.

Every checkbox and form field is announced as you tab through the document that is created by using this form template as its basis.  Having it selected and hitting enter should open Word with "Document 1" having been created, which is an un-filled-out bus note.

Sample Bus Note Form Document Template (dotx)

There are many fillable PDF forms that are accessible, and others that are not because adequate labeling of the various checkboxes, edit boxes, radio buttons has not been done.  I don't have the software to create fillable PDF forms, though.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


 

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 08:46 PM, Don & Cher wrote:
I lost the ability to access some of the form controls I needed.
Cher,

            I don't know what may or may not have happened in the 2003 and 2007 versions of Word, but as of 2010 and later (at least through 2016) the form controls you are likely used to (and that I still use and prefer) were available under Legacy controls under the developer tab.  Try ALT+L,N to get to them.  I'm not going to try to list the "next letter" as there are 18 options between the 6 Legacy controls and 12 active X controls.  I'm betting that you'll find most, if not all, of those familiar bits there.   They're much easier to use and more easily accessible than their "modern" equivalents. 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


David Kingsbury
 

Hello,

The question of how to create fillable forms is a different issue from what to do with a form you have received that is not fillable. You can't take the form you have received from the government and somehow recreate it in a fillable format.

David


 

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 09:55 AM, David Kingsbury wrote:
The question of how to create fillable forms is a different issue from what to do with a form you have received that is not fillable.
But the question was not about what to do with a form you have received that's not fillable. It was, and I quote, "Has anyone had any success with accessible form creation software?"   The rest was background information.

The issue of non-fillable forms is also something impossible to address electronically with a screen reader.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer