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Andrew Diederick
Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs: I9 processor 16 GB ram 256 GB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of these specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should make certain a new laptop has for JFW use? Appreciate any advise. Thank you- Andrew
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Feliciano G
I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.
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Feliciano For tech tips and updates: LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs
On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick <andrew.diederick@...> wrote:
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Moty Azrad
Andrew,
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It is a very strong laptop. By the way, what is the price of this one? I do know that most users are using only I7 processor. You write here about I9 processor. I didn't see it yet. Moti Moti Azrad Musician and Piano-Tuner motiaz@... azrad_moty@... Israel
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Diederick Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 07:22 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: New computer specs Hello all. Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs: I9 processor 16 GB ram 256 GB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of these specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should make certain a new laptop has for JFW use? Appreciate any advise. Thank you- Andrew
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Tyler Wood
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If I may make one huge suggestion. If it is at all possible to bring that down to a core i7 or i5, you can save yourself quite a chunk of money and upgrade the ssd with hardly any loss in overall performance. Don't believe the marketing hype from Intel and other manufacturers - the i9 is far too expensive to make it worth it. The i9 processor is often times slower at single core performance (which is what is done 99% of the time) than a comparably equipped i7 or i5 since it produces tons more heat at those higher clock speed and most machines can't handle that thermal envelope. The i7 will last you 6 years - that in and of itself is a 6 core, 12 thread monster of a processor that puts most older desktops to shame, let alone laptops. Remember that most things, including jaws, use, for the most part, one core (or thread, in this case). The i9 may have 8 cores and 16 threads, but according to several sources even when it is maxed out, the i7 is overall quicker simply because of either processor temperature reaching maximum (100 C) or thermal designed power limit, 45 wats. I just purchased a Lenovo thinkpad x1 extreme. It is beautifully, blisteringly, wonderfully fast and is equipped with the i7-8750h. I could have easily gotten the i5 and been happy. If you're looking for long term, though, the i7 is a very nice compromise and will last you for years. The i9 is about 5-10% faster overall and simply is not worth the price. Jaws will scream no matter which you choose and be ridiculously fast. Sorry for the long message. I just wanted to make you aware. This may not even effect you personally if you don't do much with the machine - but it's certainly worth taking note of, especially with a high cost investment. I'd like to see you get your moneys worth.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Diederick Sent: August 24, 2019 11:22 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: New computer specs Hello all. Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs: I9 processor 16 GB ram 256 GB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of these specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should make certain a new laptop has for JFW use? Appreciate any advise. Thank you- Andrew
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David & his pack of dogs
A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he was
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dipping into some sort of sauce. I received what I was told was a refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive. It turned out to be a windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it booted up. Thus, I agree with Feliciano.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New computer specs I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive. Feliciano For tech tips and updates: LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick <andrew.diederick@...>wrote: specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should make certain a new laptop has for JFW use? Appreciate any advise.
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Tyler Wood
16 GB of ram is the new 8 gb these days. Processors don't mean quite as much
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for screen reader users especially when buying a flagship 2019 machine with an i3, i5, or i7 processor, let alone the i9. If the machine does not have user replaceable ram, get as much as you can - same with the solid state drive if you plan on storing things, (just remember to back that up!) Just as an example, Chrome eats up a ton of memory for no reason, and things will likely only get worse as time goes on. Notebookcheck.net is a fantastic resource if you want to look at notebook reviews as they go into great detail on the hardware, the feel, the heat dissipation, and battery life, and they tend to be very realistic on what is and is not a good quality machine. They tend to take a while to get reviews out simply because they do many stress tests on the machines to make sure initial tests aren't wrong. Hope that helps!
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs Sent: August 24, 2019 11:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New computer specs A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he was dipping into some sort of sauce. I received what I was told was a refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive. It turned out to be a windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it booted up. Thus, I agree with Feliciano. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New computer specs I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive. Feliciano For tech tips and updates: LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederickwrote: specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should make certain a new laptop has for JFW use? Appreciate any advise.
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Glenn / Lenny
The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective.
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I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD. Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case. Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all? I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some MP3 audio. All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine. Glenn
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From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM Subject: Re: New computer specs A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he was
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Tyler Wood
Hi,
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This is completely, 100% true. Although using a solid state drive in 2019 is almost a must - at least for those that have experienced one. But so far as other sspecs are concerned there are too many people out there that equate an i7 or i9 to being better and that simply isn't true for just about 99% of use case scenarios. Now that I look back at the specs, what are you needing a dedicated Nvidia Graphics card for in particular? Intel hd graphics does just fine so far as Jaws is concerned.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: August 24, 2019 11:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New computer specs The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective. I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD. Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case. Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all? I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some MP3 audio. All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM Subject: Re: New computer specs A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he wasup. Thus, I agree with Feliciano.
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Richard Turner
The only reason to have the faster processors is if you are editing large audio or video files and multitasking with some processor heavy software, which most people do not do.
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And, if I remember correctly; which may be a big if, those graphic cards he mentioned have been problematic with Jaws.
Unless he has some software that is requiring it, which would be surprising.
I will never go back to a standard HD drive after using my SSD drive now for a year.
Richard
Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.
On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:52 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...> wrote:
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Andrew Diederick
Hello all: Tyler, thank you for the insight. I mainly use Microsoft office suite, and browse the web with this unit. I’m looking on dell.com. I’m looking at a I seven 512 solid-state drive with 16 gig of RAM. And a plain graphics card. That retails for $1200. I’m not looking to spend more than that, and it states it’s a gaming computer. If the unit specs will last me around six years plus I would be very happy with that.
On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:
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Tyler Wood
Hello, If I may make one further suggestion.
If you’d like a Dell Machine and for it to last 6 years, I highly recommend the Latitude business models. They have a minimum of preinstalled software, the warranty options are much more customizable and you can extend them, and the specifications are almost 100% flexible without the graphics card which, according to what you say you are doing with the machine, is definitely not needed. An i7 processor is more than sufficient, however a few more questions. If all you are doing is office and web browsing, you would get by with an i5 processor, thus saving you even more money. Of course, keeping the system for 6 years, your needs may change during that time and this is an investment, so there is nothing wrong with that i7. How much storage do you generally use on a computer? As long as it is a solid state drive, you’ll be fine, regardless of the size. Again, with changing conditions in the computer world, 6 years from now, a smaller amount of storage could be a detriment. I’m not going to say I’m an expert on this, but I’ve certainly had my fair share of experiences. The latitude series is also less likely to have Dell’s famous audio issues wherein when a key is pressed, the first word of speech is nearly cut off because of audio enhancements. Are you wanting to go with Dell, or are you open to other companies, such as Lenovo? The Lenovo think book series is quite nice, reasonably priced, and well built, with good warranty options. There are also the thinkpad series which have incredible keyboards (this is my first thinkpad and I really do understand why these keyboards are raved about). Seeing as how you perform extensive office tasks, a good keyboard is something to keep in mind, too, and I believe the think book series is very close to the thinkpad series in that regard, too.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Diederick
Sent: August 25, 2019 12:15 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New computer specs
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David Ingram
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From: Andrew Diederick <andrew.diederick@...>Don't forget about a usb keyboard just in case your laptop doesn't have a full keyboard layout semular to a desktop system would but also check to see if the ram could be upgraded to 64gb ram of course. Remember you still have to allow jaws to have a significant amount of ram to run in the background while other processes are going on.
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That was going to be my comment as well, if all you do is run Windows 10 and maybe Office and you mostly store documents and not thousands and thousands of pictures or, even worse, videos there is probably no need for anything larger. Having said this when it comes to price and what you get for it a 500Gb or, as some manufacturers specify, a 512Gb SSD seems to be in the sweet spot right now.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 9:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New computer specs The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective. I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD. Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case. Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all? I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some MP3 audio. All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM Subject: Re: New computer specs A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he was
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Gerald Levy
Everybody and his uncle claims that SSD's are superior to HD's. But I have read that although they are faster and more mechanically reliable than HD's, they are more prone to data errors as their memory cells wear out, and so they may not last as long. Also, they emit almost no noise, so if you purchase a Windows 10 laptop that lacks a DVD drive, there is really no reliable means to tell for sure that it has powered off completely after a shutdown has been initiated because there is no shutdown sound. At least with an HD, you can usually feel it spinning when the power is on.
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Gerald
On 8/25/2019 2:24 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
That was going to be my comment as well, if all you do is run Windows 10 and maybe Office and you mostly store documents and not thousands and thousands of pictures or, even worse, videos there is probably no need for anything larger. Having said this when it comes to price and what you get for it a 500Gb or, as some manufacturers specify, a 512Gb SSD seems to be in the sweet spot right now.
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Chris Hill
For the use case you specify later, you probably won't benefit from the i9, an i7 would do you fine for many years. I'd put some of that money into a bigger ssd drive. I also wouldn't buy the separate video card, what you are doing isn't going to tax video at all. If the machine can hold it, get 16gb of ram. Avoid any machine that talks about gaming, unless you know for a fact it has stereo speakers. Believe it or not, I have a dell gaming machine that has one speaker and a sub-woofer. If I'd known when I bought it, I wouldn't have.
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On 8/24/2019 23:21, Andrew Diederick wrote:
Hello all.
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Zel Iscel
Hi all,
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Until recently, I always bought computers with i5 processors but I find they often lag and Outlook seems to open and close itself regularly, which is very annoying! I usually have several docs and several apps open at the same time so a couple of weeks ago I bought a laptop with an I7 processor and 16 gb ram. It seems to be working well with minimal lags. I was considering Dell Latitude and the Lenovo models but they didn't have all the keys on the keyboard. None of the Lenovo models had an apps key and I can't remember which key Dell didn't have. In the end I settled for The ruggedised HP ProBook 640 G4 with 16GB RAM and upgraded warranty. It has an I7 processor, 16 gb ram, 512 gb SSD storage, 15 hours battery life, NVDIA graphics card, and all the keys (except a numpad which I don't need anyway). It's a little heavier than I was hoping for at 1.8 kg but I'm willing to sacrifice the weight for a long battery life and an independent graphics card. NVDIA and AMD are apparently the only two independent graphics cards that work well with Jaws. I specifically wanted an independent graphics card in order to free up the processor so I can do the things I need to do with minimal lags. I use Microsoft Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Outlook (Including calendar), and whatever else I need to work with and can access. I also test websites and some accessibility ttools, though I haven't found any that I like yet. I feel like I'm writing for a job application. Lol! But I hope this helps you, Andrew, in your decision for a new laptop. Good luck. Zel
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, 25 August 2019 2:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New computer specs That was going to be my comment as well, if all you do is run Windows 10 and maybe Office and you mostly store documents and not thousands and thousands of pictures or, even worse, videos there is probably no need for anything larger. Having said this when it comes to price and what you get for it a 500Gb or, as some manufacturers specify, a 512Gb SSD seems to be in the sweet spot right now. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 9:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New computer specs The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective. I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD. Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case. Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all? I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some MP3 audio. All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM Subject: Re: New computer specs A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he was
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David & his pack of dogs
Zel, you've got the job. LOL.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Zel Iscel Sent: August 25, 2019 6:12 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New computer specs Hi all, Until recently, I always bought computers with i5 processors but I find they often lag and Outlook seems to open and close itself regularly, which is very annoying! I usually have several docs and several apps open at the same time so a couple of weeks ago I bought a laptop with an I7 processor and 16 gb ram. It seems to be working well with minimal lags. I was considering Dell Latitude and the Lenovo models but they didn't have all the keys on the keyboard. None of the Lenovo models had an apps key and I can't remember which key Dell didn't have. In the end I settled for The ruggedised HP ProBook 640 G4 with 16GB RAM and upgraded warranty. It has an I7 processor, 16 gb ram, 512 gb SSD storage, 15 hours battery life, NVDIA graphics card, and all the keys (except a numpad which I don't need anyway). It's a little heavier than I was hoping for at 1.8 kg but I'm willing to sacrifice the weight for a long battery life and an independent graphics card. NVDIA and AMD are apparently the only two independent graphics cards that work well with Jaws. I specifically wanted an independent graphics card in order to free up the processor so I can do the things I need to do with minimal lags. I use Microsoft Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Outlook (Including calendar), and whatever else I need to work with and can access. I also test websites and some accessibility ttools, though I haven't found any that I like yet. I feel like I'm writing for a job application. Lol! But I hope this helps you, Andrew, in your decision for a new laptop. Good luck. Zel -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, 25 August 2019 2:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New computer specs That was going to be my comment as well, if all you do is run Windows 10 and maybe Office and you mostly store documents and not thousands and thousands of pictures or, even worse, videos there is probably no need for anything larger. Having said this when it comes to price and what you get for it a 500Gb or, as some manufacturers specify, a 512Gb SSD seems to be in the sweet spot right now. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 9:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New computer specs The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective. I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD. Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case. Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all? I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some MP3 audio. All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM Subject: Re: New computer specs A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he wasup. Thus, I agree with Feliciano.
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Mario
I recall that there were issues with graphics cards from ATI. most of
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the time, NVIDIA cards worked okay. but that hasn't been an issue for some time.
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From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...] To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Sunday, August 25, 2019, 12:59 AM Subject: New computer specs The only reason to have the faster processors is if you are editing large audio or video files and multitasking with some processor heavy software, which most people do not do. And, if I remember correctly; which may be a big if, those graphic cards he mentioned have been problematic with Jaws. Unless he has some software that is requiring it, which would be surprising. I will never go back to a standard HD drive after using my SSD drive now for a year. Richard Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:52 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...> wrote: Hi, This is completely, 100% true. Although using a solid state drive in 2019 is almost a must - at least for those that have experienced one. But so far as other sspecs are concerned there are too many people out there that equate an i7 or i9 to being better and that simply isn't true for just about 99% of use case scenarios. Now that I look back at the specs, what are you needing a dedicated Nvidia Graphics card for in particular? Intel hd graphics does just fine so far as Jaws is concerned. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: August 24, 2019 11:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New computer specs The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective. I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD. Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case. Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all? I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some MP3 audio. All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM Subject: Re: New computer specs A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he was dipping into some sort of sauce. I received what I was told was a refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive. It turned out to be a windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it booted up. Thus, I agree with Feliciano. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New computer specs I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive. Feliciano For tech tips and updates: LIKE https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.facebook.com%2Ftheblindman12v&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ceb279c9b675d4bef8e3308d729181399%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637023055690711327&sdata=WyTazzig6ubyNVYKdwyqDlytSTUB%2BeC4jzAAmwmZytY%3D&reserved=0 Follow https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.twitter.com%2Ftheblindman12v&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ceb279c9b675d4bef8e3308d729181399%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637023055690711327&sdata=79BjhGpgq2IoxLpXCTnNbN0KM3QCTuhViFByE3ETx%2Fw%3D&reserved=0 Follow https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.instagram%2FTheBlindMan12v&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ceb279c9b675d4bef8e3308d729181399%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637023055690711327&sdata=amyu%2B8XjDXr%2BkVrj8Vo9aQ3BqDVQP%2BFZY6avpswARg4%3D&reserved=0 those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick <andrew.diederick@...> wrote: Hello all. Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs: I9 processor 16 GB ram 256 GB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of these specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should make certain a new laptop has for JFW use? Appreciate any advise. Thank you- Andrew
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Tyler Wood
Hi,
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The GPU does not free up the processor whatsoever and, in fact, is a completely different animal than a processor. The GPU in your machine may not, in fact, be used if you are getting 15 hours of batterylife. There is something called Optymous technology from Nvidia that when used, allows the independent graphics card to power off while the dedicated Intel HD graphics does its thing, and that sounds exactly what is going on in your use case. Few people seem to realize that shift f10 performs the exact same action as applications key - and barring that, you can use sharp keys to remap a key to the right of the space bar to that if you so choose. Regarding the comment about an SSD not lasting long - I have a Toshiba laptop here from 2012 that still has 85% of its life remaining. In that time I have had 5 mechanical drives fail, without warning, and only 2 of which made any actual noise to tell me so. These days if a laptop or computer in general does not shut down, you will get a message popping up on screen from your screen reader if you have it set to run at log on, telling you the following programs are still running in the background and giving you the option to shut down anyway or cancel. The benefits of a solid state drive to batterylife and speed are so beyond amazing compared with a spinning mechanical drive. Expect the machine to boot in less than 30 seconds regardless what programs run at startup - add another 15 or 20, maybe, to get said programs running. You can start using the machine as soon as the screen reader is running, no more waiting to get to the desktop to check a simple email or modify one line in a word document. Resuming from sleep happens in less than 1.5 seconds these days. Far more pluses than drawbacks, in my view. Just my $.02!
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Zel Iscel Sent: August 25, 2019 8:12 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New computer specs Hi all, Until recently, I always bought computers with i5 processors but I find they often lag and Outlook seems to open and close itself regularly, which is very annoying! I usually have several docs and several apps open at the same time so a couple of weeks ago I bought a laptop with an I7 processor and 16 gb ram. It seems to be working well with minimal lags. I was considering Dell Latitude and the Lenovo models but they didn't have all the keys on the keyboard. None of the Lenovo models had an apps key and I can't remember which key Dell didn't have. In the end I settled for The ruggedised HP ProBook 640 G4 with 16GB RAM and upgraded warranty. It has an I7 processor, 16 gb ram, 512 gb SSD storage, 15 hours battery life, NVDIA graphics card, and all the keys (except a numpad which I don't need anyway). It's a little heavier than I was hoping for at 1.8 kg but I'm willing to sacrifice the weight for a long battery life and an independent graphics card. NVDIA and AMD are apparently the only two independent graphics cards that work well with Jaws. I specifically wanted an independent graphics card in order to free up the processor so I can do the things I need to do with minimal lags. I use Microsoft Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Outlook (Including calendar), and whatever else I need to work with and can access. I also test websites and some accessibility ttools, though I haven't found any that I like yet. I feel like I'm writing for a job application. Lol! But I hope this helps you, Andrew, in your decision for a new laptop. Good luck. Zel -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, 25 August 2019 2:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New computer specs That was going to be my comment as well, if all you do is run Windows 10 and maybe Office and you mostly store documents and not thousands and thousands of pictures or, even worse, videos there is probably no need for anything larger. Having said this when it comes to price and what you get for it a 500Gb or, as some manufacturers specify, a 512Gb SSD seems to be in the sweet spot right now. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 9:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: New computer specs The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective. I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD. Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case. Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all? I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some MP3 audio. All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM Subject: Re: New computer specs A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he wasup. Thus, I agree with Feliciano.
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256GB is not all that much when you factor in OS/ software, files, media and back ups over a 6 year period. from devices.
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On Aug 25, 2019, at 8:51 AM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...> wrote:
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