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Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.
I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.
If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.
Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?
Thanks,
Richard
Check out my web site at:
www.turner42.com
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life,
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try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown
If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.
I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.
If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.
Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?
Thanks,
Richard
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
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On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote: try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown
If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.
I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.
If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.
Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?
Thanks,
Richard
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com
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On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote:
My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown
If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.
I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.
If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.
Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?
Thanks,
Richard
Check out my web site at: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C787d4d9a17954552176608d70175d866%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979477956414541&sdata=A5mz60GwsAgfDp6Lku%2FXQx9hUqXg%2B%2FOaYprmw6JAQUg%3D&reserved=0
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice.
Don
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-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down. I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off. But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down. Richard Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." (Sent from the magical iPhone SE) www.turner42.com On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote:
My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown
If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.
I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.
If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.
Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?
Thanks,
Richard
Check out my web site at: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C787d4d9a17954552176608d70175d866%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979477956414541&sdata=A5mz60GwsAgfDp6Lku%2FXQx9hUqXg%2B%2FOaYprmw6JAQUg%3D&reserved=0
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well.
Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names in my contacts so they are quite different.
Thanks,
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com
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On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@...> wrote:
Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice.
Don
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown
I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C833a8252ca914f3f170208d7017e141d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979513317811062&sdata=jezuQQSGWwvaSffPFenxjM0Jz%2F50JEOTahHOlKp9O88%3D&reserved=0
On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote:
My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown
If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.
I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.
If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.
Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?
Thanks,
Richard
Check out my web site at: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C833a8252ca914f3f170208d7017e141d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979513317811062&sdata=jezuQQSGWwvaSffPFenxjM0Jz%2F50JEOTahHOlKp9O88%3D&reserved=0
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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Try using a shutdown command shutdown -s -f -t 0 or for restart shutdown -r -f -t 0 On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:32:18 -0400, Richard Turner wrote:
Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well.
Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names in my contacts so they are quite different.
Thanks,
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com
On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@...> wrote:
Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice.
Don
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown
I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C833a8252ca914f3f170208d7017e141d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979513317811062&sdata=jezuQQSGWwvaSffPFenxjM0Jz%2F50JEOTahHOlKp9O88%3D&reserved=0
On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote:
My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown
If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.
I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.
If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.
Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?
Thanks,
Richard
Check out my web site at: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C833a8252ca914f3f170208d7017e141d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979513317811062&sdata=jezuQQSGWwvaSffPFenxjM0Jz%2F50JEOTahHOlKp9O88%3D&reserved=0
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
-- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@...
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Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Are you talking about using the run command?
Unloading jaws, loading Narrator and doing a standard shut down or restart seems easier until I find out why the ---- this is happening.
Richard
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com
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On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
Try using a shutdown command shutdown -s -f -t 0 or for restart
shutdown -r -f -t 0
On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:32:18 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:
Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well.
Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names in my contacts so they are quite different.
Thanks,
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988086527&sdata=h4vKJGiE6SsqUU59eeTJYtU6bcT0JLwHSJ5Lx3FP17Q%3D&reserved=0
On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@...> wrote:
Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice.
Don
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown
I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988086527&sdata=h4vKJGiE6SsqUU59eeTJYtU6bcT0JLwHSJ5Lx3FP17Q%3D&reserved=0
On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote:
My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown
If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.
I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.
If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.
Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?
Thanks,
Richard
Check out my web site at: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988096526&sdata=gDC5Q24fsuYFrSnlN3CMyrHecnqtfta2ae6l1ZH%2F2kg%3D&reserved=0
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?
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as John suggested, you can put the command in a desktop shortcut and
assign a shortcut to trigger a shutdown.
in the target edit field type exactly or copy/paste:
C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -t 0
the keystroke I assigned is control+alt+shift+s. assign whatever keys
you'd like.
the s is for shutdown and the t is for milliseconds.
you can create one for restarting, just sub r for s.
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-------- Original Message -------- From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...] To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Friday, July 5, 2019, 4:19 PM Subject: Blocked shutdown Are you talking about using the run command? Unloading jaws, loading Narrator and doing a standard shut down or restart seems easier until I find out why the ---- this is happening. Richard Richard Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." (Sent from the magical iPhone SE) www.turner42.com On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote: Try using a shutdown command shutdown -s -f -t 0 or for restart shutdown -r -f -t 0 On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:32:18 -0400, Richard Turner wrote: Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well. Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names in my contacts so they are quite different. Thanks, Richard Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." (Sent from the magical iPhone SE) https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988086527&sdata=h4vKJGiE6SsqUU59eeTJYtU6bcT0JLwHSJ5Lx3FP17Q%3D&reserved=0 On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@...> wrote: Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice. Don -----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down. I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off. But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down. Richard Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." (Sent from the magical iPhone SE) https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988086527&sdata=h4vKJGiE6SsqUU59eeTJYtU6bcT0JLwHSJ5Lx3FP17Q%3D&reserved=0 On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote: My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message. Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote: try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Blocked shutdown If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down. I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately. If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever. Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved? Thanks, Richard Check out my web site at: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988096526&sdata=gDC5Q24fsuYFrSnlN3CMyrHecnqtfta2ae6l1ZH%2F2kg%3D&reserved=0 “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59 -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@...
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BTW, this works for Windows 7 and 10.
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-------- Original Message -------- From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@...] To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Friday, July 5, 2019, 4:59 PM Subject: Blocked shutdown as John suggested, you can put the command in a desktop shortcut and assign a shortcut to trigger a shutdown. in the target edit field type exactly or copy/paste: C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -t 0 the keystroke I assigned is control+alt+shift+s. assign whatever keys you'd like. the s is for shutdown and the t is for milliseconds. you can create one for restarting, just sub r for s. -------- Original Message -------- From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...] To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Friday, July 5, 2019, 4:19 PM Subject: Blocked shutdown Are you talking about using the run command? Unloading jaws, loading Narrator and doing a standard shut down or restart seems easier until I find out why the ---- this is happening. Richard Richard Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." (Sent from the magical iPhone SE) www.turner42.com On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote: Try using a shutdown command shutdown -s -f -t 0 or for restart shutdown -r -f -t 0 On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:32:18 -0400, Richard Turner wrote: Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well. Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names in my contacts so they are quite different. Thanks, Richard Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." (Sent from the magical iPhone SE) https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988086527&sdata=h4vKJGiE6SsqUU59eeTJYtU6bcT0JLwHSJ5Lx3FP17Q%3D&reserved=0 On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@...> wrote: Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice. Don -----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down. I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off. But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down. Richard Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." (Sent from the magical iPhone SE) https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988086527&sdata=h4vKJGiE6SsqUU59eeTJYtU6bcT0JLwHSJ5Lx3FP17Q%3D&reserved=0 On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote: My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message. Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote: try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Blocked shutdown If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down. I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately. If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever. Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved? Thanks, Richard Check out my web site at: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988096526&sdata=gDC5Q24fsuYFrSnlN3CMyrHecnqtfta2ae6l1ZH%2F2kg%3D&reserved=0 “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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I almost always use the run command, just have gotten used to it, unless after a windows update where you have to hit their restart button. On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 16:19:18 -0400, Richard Turner wrote:
Are you talking about using the run command?
Unloading jaws, loading Narrator and doing a standard shut down or restart seems easier until I find out why the ---- this is happening.
Richard
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com
On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
Try using a shutdown command shutdown -s -f -t 0 or for restart
shutdown -r -f -t 0
On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:32:18 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:
Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well.
Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names in my contacts so they are quite different.
Thanks,
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988086527&sdata=h4vKJGiE6SsqUU59eeTJYtU6bcT0JLwHSJ5Lx3FP17Q%3D&reserved=0
On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@...> wrote:
Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice.
Don
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown
I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988086527&sdata=h4vKJGiE6SsqUU59eeTJYtU6bcT0JLwHSJ5Lx3FP17Q%3D&reserved=0
On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote:
My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown
If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.
I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.
If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.
Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?
Thanks,
Richard
Check out my web site at: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988096526&sdata=gDC5Q24fsuYFrSnlN3CMyrHecnqtfta2ae6l1ZH%2F2kg%3D&reserved=0
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?
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covici@...
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Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
These are great suggestions that I may consider after completely reinstalling all FS products.
Jaws 2019 makes it so none of my program shortcuts work.
I have lots setup for all the programs I run.
But, if Jaws 2019 is loaded, none of them work.
If I load Jaws 2018, they all work.
Neither FS or Microsoft have a clue why that is.
So for now, Narrator will be my logon and shutdown program of choice.
It loads faster than even Jaws 2019, so pretty simple solution.
Thanks again all,
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com
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On Jul 5, 2019, at 2:04 PM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
I almost always use the run command, just have gotten used to it,
unless after a windows update where you have to hit their restart
button.
On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 16:19:18 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:
Are you talking about using the run command?
Unloading jaws, loading Narrator and doing a standard shut down or restart seems easier until I find out why the ---- this is happening.
Richard
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd8c93bf0dd064fde8b2908d7018c4e40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979574426103981&sdata=VzV95X6WbdBHzPUCDDUpIqdHkQ7Vg6T54ze2OgMrido%3D&reserved=0
On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
Try using a shutdown command shutdown -s -f -t 0 or for restart
shutdown -r -f -t 0
On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:32:18 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:
Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well.
Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names in my contacts so they are quite different.
Thanks,
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd8c93bf0dd064fde8b2908d7018c4e40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979574426113986&sdata=F1OVqSpb%2FSsjrXTZ990edr%2B1a9UoM4H84FKTFItHXd4%3D&reserved=0
On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@...> wrote:
Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice.
Don
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown
I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd8c93bf0dd064fde8b2908d7018c4e40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979574426113986&sdata=F1OVqSpb%2FSsjrXTZ990edr%2B1a9UoM4H84FKTFItHXd4%3D&reserved=0
On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote:
My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown
If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.
I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.
If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.
Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?
Thanks,
Richard
Check out my web site at: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd8c93bf0dd064fde8b2908d7018c4e40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979574426113986&sdata=F1OVqSpb%2FSsjrXTZ990edr%2B1a9UoM4H84FKTFItHXd4%3D&reserved=0
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?
John Covici wb2una
covici@...
--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?
John Covici wb2una
covici@...
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Hello;
I have never experienced anything like this,
In the latest version of Jaws 17 & in all later versions of Jaws, you can run these versions in their default mode by doing the following:
Press, Insert+ spacebar, then press the letter, Z. This will run Jaws 17 latest & all Jaws later versions in default mode, & this keystroke is a toggle, so just invoke the keystroke again to run them with your settings back.
just would be interested if jaws would work with default settings loaded.
The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a dream.
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 5:13 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown These are great suggestions that I may consider after completely reinstalling all FS products. Jaws 2019 makes it so none of my program shortcuts work. I have lots setup for all the programs I run. But, if Jaws 2019 is loaded, none of them work. If I load Jaws 2018, they all work. Neither FS or Microsoft have a clue why that is. So for now, Narrator will be my logon and shutdown program of choice. It loads faster than even Jaws 2019, so pretty simple solution. Thanks again all, Richard Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." (Sent from the magical iPhone SE) www.turner42.com On Jul 5, 2019, at 2:04 PM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
I almost always use the run command, just have gotten used to it,
unless after a windows update where you have to hit their restart
button.
On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 16:19:18 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:
Are you talking about using the run command?
Unloading jaws, loading Narrator and doing a standard shut down or restart seems easier until I find out why the ---- this is happening.
Richard
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd8c93bf0dd064fde8b2908d7018c4e40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979574426103981&sdata=VzV95X6WbdBHzPUCDDUpIqdHkQ7Vg6T54ze2OgMrido%3D&reserved=0
On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
Try using a shutdown command shutdown -s -f -t 0 or for restart
shutdown -r -f -t 0
On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:32:18 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:
Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well.
Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names in my contacts so they are quite different.
Thanks,
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd8c93bf0dd064fde8b2908d7018c4e40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979574426113986&sdata=F1OVqSpb%2FSsjrXTZ990edr%2B1a9UoM4H84FKTFItHXd4%3D&reserved=0
On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@...> wrote:
Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice.
Don
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown
I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.
Richard
Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd8c93bf0dd064fde8b2908d7018c4e40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979574426113986&sdata=F1OVqSpb%2FSsjrXTZ990edr%2B1a9UoM4H84FKTFItHXd4%3D&reserved=0
On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote:
My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown
If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.
I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.
If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.
Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?
Thanks,
Richard
Check out my web site at: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd8c93bf0dd064fde8b2908d7018c4e40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979574426113986&sdata=F1OVqSpb%2FSsjrXTZ990edr%2B1a9UoM4H84FKTFItHXd4%3D&reserved=0
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?
John Covici wb2una
covici@...
--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?
John Covici wb2una
covici@...
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