moderated Jaws Cursor İssue


soner
 

Dear listers, on Windows 10, I encounter a strange problem in Jaws
cursor mode with all web browsers. that while it reads properly
through arrow keys, it just says: "space", if I would like to move
word by word or character by character to move and click an element or
a word to read. So I am literally unable to grabb anything clickable
or any word to locate in Jaws cursor mode.
I have tested through various Jaws versions from April 2019 down to
2018, but it gives the same result.
I use a Toshiba Satellite Radius 12 P20W-C laptop with all the drivers
and firmwares up to date.

Any tip or help greatly appreciated.


Dan Longmore
 

 I am not sure of the solution, but this is a typical John’s Kurtzer response. As windows has advanced and technology increased the John’s cursor has become less useful. I understand that Freedom Scientific is working on that and hopes to have major changes soon. 

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of soner <soner.boun@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws Cursor İssue
 
Dear listers, on Windows 10, I encounter a strange problem in Jaws
cursor mode with all web browsers. that while it reads properly
through arrow keys, it just says: "space", if I would like to move
word by word or character by character to move and click an element or
a word to read. So I am literally unable to grabb anything clickable
or any word to locate in Jaws cursor mode.
I have tested through various Jaws versions from April 2019 down to
2018, but it gives the same result.
I use a Toshiba Satellite Radius 12 P20W-C laptop with all the drivers
and firmwares up to date.

Any tip or help greatly appreciated.




 

It is definitely a fact that in Windows 10 the Jaws cursor cannot read nearly as much information as in Windows 7. What the John’s cursor can do I don’t know because I haven’t figured out how to activate it 🤣

Dan is also correct in saying that Vispero is working on a major change regarding how Jaws gets information from Windows and that in theory this will restore some of the old Jaws cursor functionality.

In the meantime don’t forget that in Windows 10 the touch cursor can also be very useful, if you don’t know what it is or how to use it please activate Help > Jaws Help Topics and find the entry about Jaws cursors. The name implies that it is used with a touch screen and that is true, but it can be activated from the keyboard and be useful even if your computer doesn’t even have a touch screen capable display.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 6:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

 I am not sure of the solution, but this is a typical John’s Kurtzer response. As windows has advanced and technology increased the John’s cursor has become less useful. I understand that Freedom Scientific is working on that and hopes to have major changes soon. 

 

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of soner <soner.boun@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Dear listers, on Windows 10, I encounter a strange problem in Jaws
cursor mode with all web browsers. that while it reads properly
through arrow keys, it just says: "space", if I would like to move
word by word or character by character to move and click an element or
a word to read. So I am literally unable to grabb anything clickable
or any word to locate in Jaws cursor mode.
I have tested through various Jaws versions from April 2019 down to
2018, but it gives the same result.
I use a Toshiba Satellite Radius 12 P20W-C laptop with all the drivers
and firmwares up to date.

Any tip or help greatly appreciated.



Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

The John’s cursor?

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue
 
 I am not sure of the solution, but this is a typical John’s Kurtzer response. As windows has advanced and technology increased the John’s cursor has become less useful. I understand that Freedom Scientific is working on that and hopes to have major changes soon. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of soner <soner.boun@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws Cursor İssue
 
Dear listers, on Windows 10, I encounter a strange problem in Jaws
cursor mode with all web browsers. that while it reads properly
through arrow keys, it just says: "space", if I would like to move
word by word or character by character to move and click an element or
a word to read. So I am literally unable to grabb anything clickable
or any word to locate in Jaws cursor mode.
I have tested through various Jaws versions from April 2019 down to
2018, but it gives the same result.
I use a Toshiba Satellite Radius 12 P20W-C laptop with all the drivers
and firmwares up to date.

Any tip or help greatly appreciated.




Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Sounds as if he was dictating into an iPhone, and the AI mistook JAWS Cursor for John’s Cursor.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 2:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

The John’s cursor?

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

 I am not sure of the solution, but this is a typical John’s Kurtzer response. As windows has advanced and technology increased the John’s cursor has become less useful. I understand that Freedom Scientific is working on that and hopes to have major changes soon. 

 

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of soner <soner.boun@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Dear listers, on Windows 10, I encounter a strange problem in Jaws
cursor mode with all web browsers. that while it reads properly
through arrow keys, it just says: "space", if I would like to move
word by word or character by character to move and click an element or
a word to read. So I am literally unable to grabb anything clickable
or any word to locate in Jaws cursor mode.
I have tested through various Jaws versions from April 2019 down to
2018, but it gives the same result.
I use a Toshiba Satellite Radius 12 P20W-C laptop with all the drivers
and firmwares up to date.

Any tip or help greatly appreciated.



Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  JAWS is what was meant.  Sorry I did not proof better.

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 5:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

The John’s cursor?

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

 I am not sure of the solution, but this is a typical John’s Kurtzer response. As windows has advanced and technology increased the John’s cursor has become less useful. I understand that Freedom Scientific is working on that and hopes to have major changes soon. 

 

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of soner <soner.boun@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Dear listers, on Windows 10, I encounter a strange problem in Jaws
cursor mode with all web browsers. that while it reads properly
through arrow keys, it just says: "space", if I would like to move
word by word or character by character to move and click an element or
a word to read. So I am literally unable to grabb anything clickable
or any word to locate in Jaws cursor mode.
I have tested through various Jaws versions from April 2019 down to
2018, but it gives the same result.
I use a Toshiba Satellite Radius 12 P20W-C laptop with all the drivers
and firmwares up to date.

Any tip or help greatly appreciated.



Tom Lange
 

Hi,
Going back even as far as Windows XP, I’ve seen many instances in which invoking the Jaws cursor and then using the arrow keys results in “blank, blank, blank”  et cetera and I’ve never gotten a satisfactory answer regarding why that happens. I’ve tried tweaking the screen resolution and other settings, to no avail. 
As for the John’s cursor, I’ve never actually encountered one of those but I would speculate that it must be some device that kicks into high gear when a guy hanging out in the red-light district gets busted and hauled in for soliciting.
 

On Jun 5, 2019, at 2:42 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:

Hi,

  JAWS is what was meant.  Sorry I did not proof better.

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 5:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

The John’s cursor?

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

 I am not sure of the solution, but this is a typical John’s Kurtzer response. As windows has advanced and technology increased the John’s cursor has become less useful. I understand that Freedom Scientific is working on that and hopes to have major changes soon. 

 

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of soner <soner.boun@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Dear listers, on Windows 10, I encounter a strange problem in Jaws
cursor mode with all web browsers. that while it reads properly
through arrow keys, it just says: "space", if I would like to move
word by word or character by character to move and click an element or
a word to read. So I am literally unable to grabb anything clickable
or any word to locate in Jaws cursor mode.
I have tested through various Jaws versions from April 2019 down to
2018, but it gives the same result.
I use a Toshiba Satellite Radius 12 P20W-C laptop with all the drivers
and firmwares up to date.

Any tip or help greatly appreciated.



soner
 

Hello, adding to your point, has been years that we herd no improvement about it from Freedom. They preferred investing on useless and naturally unsustainable features like research it.
I do not know what goes on in those technology showcases, but at least wish some Canadian and American mates appearing in those places with their real comments and feed-backs.
I sometimes listen FSCast podcasts, however, it is nothing more than a commercial session with some plastic questions and comments rather than a real community driven discussion on the product itself.
But, actually, you could ignore all my comments above and could keep on offering your gratitudes to Mr. Dammery and to his team for their "magical job" enabling us to use notepad!
Regards


On 6 Jun 2019, at 04:02, Tom Lange <lange85@...> wrote:

Hi,
Going back even as far as Windows XP, I’ve seen many instances in which invoking the Jaws cursor and then using the arrow keys results in “blank, blank, blank”  et cetera and I’ve never gotten a satisfactory answer regarding why that happens. I’ve tried tweaking the screen resolution and other settings, to no avail. 
As for the John’s cursor, I’ve never actually encountered one of those but I would speculate that it must be some device that kicks into high gear when a guy hanging out in the red-light district gets busted and hauled in for soliciting.
 

On Jun 5, 2019, at 2:42 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:

Hi,

  JAWS is what was meant.  Sorry I did not proof better.

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 5:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

The John’s cursor?

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

 I am not sure of the solution, but this is a typical John’s Kurtzer response. As windows has advanced and technology increased the John’s cursor has become less useful. I understand that Freedom Scientific is working on that and hopes to have major changes soon. 

 

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of soner <soner.boun@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Dear listers, on Windows 10, I encounter a strange problem in Jaws
cursor mode with all web browsers. that while it reads properly
through arrow keys, it just says: "space", if I would like to move
word by word or character by character to move and click an element or
a word to read. So I am literally unable to grabb anything clickable
or any word to locate in Jaws cursor mode.
I have tested through various Jaws versions from April 2019 down to
2018, but it gives the same result.
I use a Toshiba Satellite Radius 12 P20W-C laptop with all the drivers
and firmwares up to date.

Any tip or help greatly appreciated.



Portia Mason
 

This is the friend who stayed with you?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of soner
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2019 11:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Hello, adding to your point, has been years that we herd no improvement about it from Freedom. They preferred investing on useless and naturally unsustainable features like research it.

I do not know what goes on in those technology showcases, but at least wish some Canadian and American mates appearing in those places with their real comments and feed-backs.

I sometimes listen FSCast podcasts, however, it is nothing more than a commercial session with some plastic questions and comments rather than a real community driven discussion on the product itself.

But, actually, you could ignore all my comments above and could keep on offering your gratitudes to Mr. Dammery and to his team for their "magical job" enabling us to use notepad!

Regards

 


On 6 Jun 2019, at 04:02, Tom Lange <lange85@...> wrote:

Hi,

Going back even as far as Windows XP, I’ve seen many instances in which invoking the Jaws cursor and then using the arrow keys results in “blank, blank, blank”  et cetera and I’ve never gotten a satisfactory answer regarding why that happens. I’ve tried tweaking the screen resolution and other settings, to no avail. 

As for the John’s cursor, I’ve never actually encountered one of those but I would speculate that it must be some device that kicks into high gear when a guy hanging out in the red-light district gets busted and hauled in for soliciting.

 


On Jun 5, 2019, at 2:42 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:

Hi,

  JAWS is what was meant.  Sorry I did not proof better.

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 5:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

The John’s cursor?

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

 I am not sure of the solution, but this is a typical John’s Kurtzer response. As windows has advanced and technology increased the John’s cursor has become less useful. I understand that Freedom Scientific is working on that and hopes to have major changes soon. 

 

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of soner <soner.boun@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Dear listers, on Windows 10, I encounter a strange problem in Jaws
cursor mode with all web browsers. that while it reads properly
through arrow keys, it just says: "space", if I would like to move
word by word or character by character to move and click an element or
a word to read. So I am literally unable to grabb anything clickable
or any word to locate in Jaws cursor mode.
I have tested through various Jaws versions from April 2019 down to
2018, but it gives the same result.
I use a Toshiba Satellite Radius 12 P20W-C laptop with all the drivers
and firmwares up to date.

Any tip or help greatly appreciated.




Virus-free. www.avast.com


Portia Mason
 

Sorry everyone. That post did not belong here.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Portia Mason via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2019 11:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

This is the friend who stayed with you?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of soner
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2019 11:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Hello, adding to your point, has been years that we herd no improvement about it from Freedom. They preferred investing on useless and naturally unsustainable features like research it.

I do not know what goes on in those technology showcases, but at least wish some Canadian and American mates appearing in those places with their real comments and feed-backs.

I sometimes listen FSCast podcasts, however, it is nothing more than a commercial session with some plastic questions and comments rather than a real community driven discussion on the product itself.

But, actually, you could ignore all my comments above and could keep on offering your gratitudes to Mr. Dammery and to his team for their "magical job" enabling us to use notepad!

Regards

 


On 6 Jun 2019, at 04:02, Tom Lange <lange85@...> wrote:

Hi,

Going back even as far as Windows XP, I’ve seen many instances in which invoking the Jaws cursor and then using the arrow keys results in “blank, blank, blank”  et cetera and I’ve never gotten a satisfactory answer regarding why that happens. I’ve tried tweaking the screen resolution and other settings, to no avail. 

As for the John’s cursor, I’ve never actually encountered one of those but I would speculate that it must be some device that kicks into high gear when a guy hanging out in the red-light district gets busted and hauled in for soliciting.

 


On Jun 5, 2019, at 2:42 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:

Hi,

  JAWS is what was meant.  Sorry I did not proof better.

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 5:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

The John’s cursor?

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

 I am not sure of the solution, but this is a typical John’s Kurtzer response. As windows has advanced and technology increased the John’s cursor has become less useful. I understand that Freedom Scientific is working on that and hopes to have major changes soon. 

 

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of soner <soner.boun@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Dear listers, on Windows 10, I encounter a strange problem in Jaws
cursor mode with all web browsers. that while it reads properly
through arrow keys, it just says: "space", if I would like to move
word by word or character by character to move and click an element or
a word to read. So I am literally unable to grabb anything clickable
or any word to locate in Jaws cursor mode.
I have tested through various Jaws versions from April 2019 down to
2018, but it gives the same result.
I use a Toshiba Satellite Radius 12 P20W-C laptop with all the drivers
and firmwares up to date.

Any tip or help greatly appreciated.


 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


 

I have been running my retail business successfully for 20 years now because I have Jaws. I graduated from University with a Bachelor of Commerce back in 1995 because I had Jaws (and other software and technology).

This was a long time before NVDA was even made possible because of the collaboration today’s internet allows and even longer before companies like Apple, Google and Microsoft suddenly made accessibility a priority.

“But, actually, you could ignore all my comments above and could keep on offering your gratitudes to Mr. Dammery and to his team for their "magical job" enabling us to use notepad!”

I am a great fan of sarcasm, but I wonder about the “magical job” the Jaws team did with features like Jaws Convenient OCR, now Picture Smart which allows me to often get a good idea of what is in a picture where before I always had to ask a sighted person to tell me, what about the amazing support for browsers like Chrome and Firefox which allow any blind person to independently look up information online, read newspapers online, shop online, do their banking etc?

Also, what about the dedication of people like Mr. Dammery who probably would be quite capable as well as qualified to land a job with any number of big software companies where they might even make more money yet they seem to be dedicated to Jaws and other Vispero products so that people like me and many others can be productive running their own business or holding down a job.

I would have assumed that our mysterious Soner who doesn’t sign his or her emails would be using NVDA, but he/she/it (let’s not forget those who want to be neither boys or girls) is on the Jaws list and apparently enjoys biting the hand that helped them for however many years they have been using Jaws. I kindly would ask why not switch to NVDA if you can’t appreciate how difficult it is to develop and maintain a product like Jaws especially nowadays when Microsoft seems to change things sometimes on a weekly bases which often can effect how the screenreader can get its information.

Do I face issues and challenges with Jaws? Absolutely. Do I sometimes complain and get frustrated about some set back which doesn’t make sense? Absolutely. Is it always the fault of Vispero when something doesn’t work in Jaws? Absolutely not.

I have been a Jaws user for 30 years and would consider myself to be a pretty advanced user of Jaws, computers and technology in general, but for the most part instead of bitching about it at every opportunity just because I enjoy being negative I decided to get on the Jaws Beta team so I can make my experience available and try and do what I can to help Vispero to make Jaws a better product.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Portia Mason via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 11:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

This is the friend who stayed with you?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of soner
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2019 11:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Hello, adding to your point, has been years that we herd no improvement about it from Freedom. They preferred investing on useless and naturally unsustainable features like research it.

I do not know what goes on in those technology showcases, but at least wish some Canadian and American mates appearing in those places with their real comments and feed-backs.

I sometimes listen FSCast podcasts, however, it is nothing more than a commercial session with some plastic questions and comments rather than a real community driven discussion on the product itself.

But, actually, you could ignore all my comments above and could keep on offering your gratitudes to Mr. Dammery and to his team for their "magical job" enabling us to use notepad!

Regards

 


On 6 Jun 2019, at 04:02, Tom Lange <lange85@...> wrote:

Hi,

Going back even as far as Windows XP, I’ve seen many instances in which invoking the Jaws cursor and then using the arrow keys results in “blank, blank, blank”  et cetera and I’ve never gotten a satisfactory answer regarding why that happens. I’ve tried tweaking the screen resolution and other settings, to no avail. 

As for the John’s cursor, I’ve never actually encountered one of those but I would speculate that it must be some device that kicks into high gear when a guy hanging out in the red-light district gets busted and hauled in for soliciting.

 


On Jun 5, 2019, at 2:42 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:

Hi,

  JAWS is what was meant.  Sorry I did not proof better.

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 5:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

The John’s cursor?

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

 I am not sure of the solution, but this is a typical John’s Kurtzer response. As windows has advanced and technology increased the John’s cursor has become less useful. I understand that Freedom Scientific is working on that and hopes to have major changes soon. 

 

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of soner <soner.boun@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Dear listers, on Windows 10, I encounter a strange problem in Jaws
cursor mode with all web browsers. that while it reads properly
through arrow keys, it just says: "space", if I would like to move
word by word or character by character to move and click an element or
a word to read. So I am literally unable to grabb anything clickable
or any word to locate in Jaws cursor mode.
I have tested through various Jaws versions from April 2019 down to
2018, but it gives the same result.
I use a Toshiba Satellite Radius 12 P20W-C laptop with all the drivers
and firmwares up to date.

Any tip or help greatly appreciated.


 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


JM Casey
 

Well, maybe the issue is more complex than that? I only suggest this because I have been using and mostly loving Windows 10 for over two years now, and don’t really experience any of the problems with the JAWS cursor most of you are describing. Mostly still works great/as well as  ever on this system, though I admit I hardly use any of the new “universal style apps” at all, where this cursor mostly is useless anyway. It used to give me nothing from Firefox, but turning hardware acceleration off (I think – was a long time ago that I had to tweak this setting) fixed that.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of soner
Sent: June 6, 2019 2:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Hello, adding to your point, has been years that we herd no improvement about it from Freedom. They preferred investing on useless and naturally unsustainable features like research it.

I do not know what goes on in those technology showcases, but at least wish some Canadian and American mates appearing in those places with their real comments and feed-backs.

I sometimes listen FSCast podcasts, however, it is nothing more than a commercial session with some plastic questions and comments rather than a real community driven discussion on the product itself.

But, actually, you could ignore all my comments above and could keep on offering your gratitudes to Mr. Dammery and to his team for their "magical job" enabling us to use notepad!

Regards

 


On 6 Jun 2019, at 04:02, Tom Lange <lange85@...> wrote:

Hi,

Going back even as far as Windows XP, I’ve seen many instances in which invoking the Jaws cursor and then using the arrow keys results in “blank, blank, blank”  et cetera and I’ve never gotten a satisfactory answer regarding why that happens. I’ve tried tweaking the screen resolution and other settings, to no avail. 

As for the John’s cursor, I’ve never actually encountered one of those but I would speculate that it must be some device that kicks into high gear when a guy hanging out in the red-light district gets busted and hauled in for soliciting.

 


On Jun 5, 2019, at 2:42 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:

Hi,

  JAWS is what was meant.  Sorry I did not proof better.

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 5:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

The John’s cursor?

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

 I am not sure of the solution, but this is a typical John’s Kurtzer response. As windows has advanced and technology increased the John’s cursor has become less useful. I understand that Freedom Scientific is working on that and hopes to have major changes soon. 

 

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of soner <soner.boun@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Dear listers, on Windows 10, I encounter a strange problem in Jaws
cursor mode with all web browsers. that while it reads properly
through arrow keys, it just says: "space", if I would like to move
word by word or character by character to move and click an element or
a word to read. So I am literally unable to grabb anything clickable
or any word to locate in Jaws cursor mode.
I have tested through various Jaws versions from April 2019 down to
2018, but it gives the same result.
I use a Toshiba Satellite Radius 12 P20W-C laptop with all the drivers
and firmwares up to date.

Any tip or help greatly appreciated.




Rick Mladek
 

Please again tell me where to find the hardware exceleration to check or uncheck? I was going to see what my setting is and forget where to find… Thanks…

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 3:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Well, maybe the issue is more complex than that? I only suggest this because I have been using and mostly loving Windows 10 for over two years now, and don’t really experience any of the problems with the JAWS cursor most of you are describing. Mostly still works great/as well as  ever on this system, though I admit I hardly use any of the new “universal style apps” at all, where this cursor mostly is useless anyway. It used to give me nothing from Firefox, but turning hardware acceleration off (I think – was a long time ago that I had to tweak this setting) fixed that.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of soner
Sent: June 6, 2019 2:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Hello, adding to your point, has been years that we herd no improvement about it from Freedom. They preferred investing on useless and naturally unsustainable features like research it.

I do not know what goes on in those technology showcases, but at least wish some Canadian and American mates appearing in those places with their real comments and feed-backs.

I sometimes listen FSCast podcasts, however, it is nothing more than a commercial session with some plastic questions and comments rather than a real community driven discussion on the product itself.

But, actually, you could ignore all my comments above and could keep on offering your gratitudes to Mr. Dammery and to his team for their "magical job" enabling us to use notepad!

Regards

 


On 6 Jun 2019, at 04:02, Tom Lange <lange85@...> wrote:

Hi,

Going back even as far as Windows XP, I’ve seen many instances in which invoking the Jaws cursor and then using the arrow keys results in “blank, blank, blank”  et cetera and I’ve never gotten a satisfactory answer regarding why that happens. I’ve tried tweaking the screen resolution and other settings, to no avail. 

As for the John’s cursor, I’ve never actually encountered one of those but I would speculate that it must be some device that kicks into high gear when a guy hanging out in the red-light district gets busted and hauled in for soliciting.

 


On Jun 5, 2019, at 2:42 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:

Hi,

  JAWS is what was meant.  Sorry I did not proof better.

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 5:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

The John’s cursor?

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

 I am not sure of the solution, but this is a typical John’s Kurtzer response. As windows has advanced and technology increased the John’s cursor has become less useful. I understand that Freedom Scientific is working on that and hopes to have major changes soon. 

 

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of soner <soner.boun@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Dear listers, on Windows 10, I encounter a strange problem in Jaws
cursor mode with all web browsers. that while it reads properly
through arrow keys, it just says: "space", if I would like to move
word by word or character by character to move and click an element or
a word to read. So I am literally unable to grabb anything clickable
or any word to locate in Jaws cursor mode.
I have tested through various Jaws versions from April 2019 down to
2018, but it gives the same result.
I use a Toshiba Satellite Radius 12 P20W-C laptop with all the drivers
and firmwares up to date.

Any tip or help greatly appreciated.



The Iowa Gal <iowagal728@...>
 

Hi tom, I agree with you regarding the Jaws cursor. At least in XP I was able to find some things with it, but as Jaws has progressed, or regressed, as the case may be, there is less and less functionality. I’m not sure why I even try to use it any more, as I get the blankety-blanke blanks 98% of the time.  This has forced me to try the touch cursor more often, though I’m underwhelmed with it so far. Guess I just need to spend more time with it.

Really liked your definition of the John’s curser. Very clever. Best, Norma

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Hi,

Going back even as far as Windows XP, I’ve seen many instances in which invoking the Jaws cursor and then using the arrow keys results in “blank, blank, blank”  et cetera and I’ve never gotten a satisfactory answer regarding why that happens. I’ve tried tweaking the screen resolution and other settings, to no avail. 

As for the John’s cursor, I’ve never actually encountered one of those but I would speculate that it must be some device that kicks into high gear when a guy hanging out in the red-light district gets busted and hauled in for soliciting.

 


On Jun 5, 2019, at 2:42 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:

Hi,

  JAWS is what was meant.  Sorry I did not proof better.

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 5:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

The John’s cursor?

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

 I am not sure of the solution, but this is a typical John’s Kurtzer response. As windows has advanced and technology increased the John’s cursor has become less useful. I understand that Freedom Scientific is working on that and hopes to have major changes soon. 

 

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of soner <soner.boun@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Dear listers, on Windows 10, I encounter a strange problem in Jaws
cursor mode with all web browsers. that while it reads properly
through arrow keys, it just says: "space", if I would like to move
word by word or character by character to move and click an element or
a word to read. So I am literally unable to grabb anything clickable
or any word to locate in Jaws cursor mode.
I have tested through various Jaws versions from April 2019 down to
2018, but it gives the same result.
I use a Toshiba Satellite Radius 12 P20W-C laptop with all the drivers
and firmwares up to date.

Any tip or help greatly appreciated.