Jaws 2019 not giving background color in Excel 2016 or 2019
Russell Solowoniuk
Hi everyone,
I am trying to use Conditional formatting in both Excel 2016 and 2019. I choose to use a formula to decide which cells are formatted, choose cells in sheet 1 that do not equal cells in sheet 2, and choose to fill the cells matching the criteria with a red background fill. The conditional formatting is working, but using Jaws 2019, I have no way of knowing whether or not it is working, because Jaws reads “text color black, background color white” when I press Insert + F, and “Black on white” when I press Insert + 5 on cells that have different values. If I load NVDA and press Insert+ F on these cells, NVDA says “black on bright red background”.
Has anyone else noticed this? I am getting so frustrated with Jaws not being able to do basic things like this when a free screen reader like NVDA is able to do it with no problem!
Thanks for any feedback.
Russell
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Van Lant, Robin
I do not have a sheet with conditional formatting, but I did just fill a cell with red. You are not the first person I’ve heard say there was an issue with JAWS reporting the background color in Excel. I’m still on JAWS 2019 1810 here at work and it seems to be working correctly on this version. Not sure which update broke this function.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 10:40 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Jaws 2019 not giving background color in Excel 2016 or 2019
Hi everyone,
I am trying to use Conditional formatting in both Excel 2016 and 2019. I choose to use a formula to decide which cells are formatted, choose cells in sheet 1 that do not equal cells in sheet 2, and choose to fill the cells matching the criteria with a red background fill. The conditional formatting is working, but using Jaws 2019, I have no way of knowing whether or not it is working, because Jaws reads “text color black, background color white” when I press Insert + F, and “Black on white” when I press Insert + 5 on cells that have different values. If I load NVDA and press Insert+ F on these cells, NVDA says “black on bright red background”.
Has anyone else noticed this? I am getting so frustrated with Jaws not being able to do basic things like this when a free screen reader like NVDA is able to do it with no problem!
Thanks for any feedback.
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Russell Solowoniuk
Hi,
Thanks for confirming that I’m not the only one having this issue. I found a bit of a workaround. There is a setting in Excel, under Quick Settings (Insert + V) called “Shading changes indication”, and when I turn this on, Jaws will announce any color shading changes when moving into a cell. I would still prefer the usual keystrokes to give me that info, but till Vispero sees fit to fix this issue, I’ll continue with the Shading changes indication. The only thing I don’t like about this setting is that every time I go to a cell with no shading, I must hear Jaws say “no shading”. Not a big deal, just a little annoying! 😊
Thanks again.
Russell
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:50 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 not giving background color in Excel 2016 or 2019
I do not have a sheet with conditional formatting, but I did just fill a cell with red. You are not the first person I’ve heard say there was an issue with JAWS reporting the background color in Excel. I’m still on JAWS 2019 1810 here at work and it seems to be working correctly on this version. Not sure which update broke this function.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Hi everyone,
I am trying to use Conditional formatting in both Excel 2016 and 2019. I choose to use a formula to decide which cells are formatted, choose cells in sheet 1 that do not equal cells in sheet 2, and choose to fill the cells matching the criteria with a red background fill. The conditional formatting is working, but using Jaws 2019, I have no way of knowing whether or not it is working, because Jaws reads “text color black, background color white” when I press Insert + F, and “Black on white” when I press Insert + 5 on cells that have different values. If I load NVDA and press Insert+ F on these cells, NVDA says “black on bright red background”.
Has anyone else noticed this? I am getting so frustrated with Jaws not being able to do basic things like this when a free screen reader like NVDA is able to do it with no problem!
Thanks for any feedback.
Russell
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Mike B
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Hi Russell,
You could put, no shading, into the Jaws
dictionary and set it so nothing is said or assign a sound to it.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
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From: Russell
Solowoniuk
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 not giving background color in Excel 2016 or
2019 Hi,
Thanks for confirming that I’m not the only one having this issue. I found a bit of a workaround. There is a setting in Excel, under Quick Settings (Insert + V) called “Shading changes indication”, and when I turn this on, Jaws will announce any color shading changes when moving into a cell. I would still prefer the usual keystrokes to give me that info, but till Vispero sees fit to fix this issue, I’ll continue with the Shading changes indication. The only thing I don’t like about this setting is that every time I go to a cell with no shading, I must hear Jaws say “no shading”. Not a big deal, just a little annoying! 😊
Thanks again.
Russell
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
I do not have a sheet with conditional formatting, but I did just fill a cell with red. You are not the first person I’ve heard say there was an issue with JAWS reporting the background color in Excel. I’m still on JAWS 2019 1810 here at work and it seems to be working correctly on this version. Not sure which update broke this function.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Russell Solowoniuk
Hi everyone,
I am trying to use Conditional formatting in both Excel 2016 and 2019. I choose to use a formula to decide which cells are formatted, choose cells in sheet 1 that do not equal cells in sheet 2, and choose to fill the cells matching the criteria with a red background fill. The conditional formatting is working, but using Jaws 2019, I have no way of knowing whether or not it is working, because Jaws reads “text color black, background color white” when I press Insert + F, and “Black on white” when I press Insert + 5 on cells that have different values. If I load NVDA and press Insert+ F on these cells, NVDA says “black on bright red background”.
Has anyone else noticed this? I am getting so frustrated with Jaws not being able to do basic things like this when a free screen reader like NVDA is able to do it with no problem!
Thanks for any feedback.
Russell
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Debby Hill
Hi,
Where I volunteer I am using a windows 7 machine, Jaws 2018 and Excel 2010. To get the background color change to report I have to press insert + 5 or insert + F twice to hear the changed background color. It probably shouldnt be that way, but it works!
Debby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 12:48 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 not giving background color in Excel 2016 or 2019
Hi Russell,
You could put, no shading, into the Jaws dictionary and set it so nothing is said or assign a sound to it.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- From: Russell Solowoniuk Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 9:09 AM Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 not giving background color in Excel 2016 or 2019
Hi,
Thanks for confirming that I’m not the only one having this issue. I found a bit of a workaround. There is a setting in Excel, under Quick Settings (Insert + V) called “Shading changes indication”, and when I turn this on, Jaws will announce any color shading changes when moving into a cell. I would still prefer the usual keystrokes to give me that info, but till Vispero sees fit to fix this issue, I’ll continue with the Shading changes indication. The only thing I don’t like about this setting is that every time I go to a cell with no shading, I must hear Jaws say “no shading”. Not a big deal, just a little annoying! 😊
Thanks again.
Russell
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
I do not have a sheet with conditional formatting, but I did just fill a cell with red. You are not the first person I’ve heard say there was an issue with JAWS reporting the background color in Excel. I’m still on JAWS 2019 1810 here at work and it seems to be working correctly on this version. Not sure which update broke this function.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Hi everyone,
I am trying to use Conditional formatting in both Excel 2016 and 2019. I choose to use a formula to decide which cells are formatted, choose cells in sheet 1 that do not equal cells in sheet 2, and choose to fill the cells matching the criteria with a red background fill. The conditional formatting is working, but using Jaws 2019, I have no way of knowing whether or not it is working, because Jaws reads “text color black, background color white” when I press Insert + F, and “Black on white” when I press Insert + 5 on cells that have different values. If I load NVDA and press Insert+ F on these cells, NVDA says “black on bright red background”.
Has anyone else noticed this? I am getting so frustrated with Jaws not being able to do basic things like this when a free screen reader like NVDA is able to do it with no problem!
Thanks for any feedback.
Russell
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