Adding alt tags to images?


ann
 

Hi,


Is there a reliable way to add an alt tag to an image with the latest version of Jaws, and perhaps latest Word or some other program?


If someone knows other ways or programs for this that work better with other screen readers, please reply to me off list. I can use either NVDA or Narrator as well.


Thanks,

~Ann


Richard B. McDonald
 

I think there is a thing in JAWS called "graphics labeler." JAWS+g is the command, I think. Your cursor needs to be on the graphic. Check out the JAWS help topic on it. if you are in another program, say Word, there is a different way to put an alt tag on an image you have inserted; the applications key.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ann
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 5:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Adding alt tags to images?

Hi,


Is there a reliable way to add an alt tag to an image with the latest version of Jaws, and perhaps latest Word or some other program?


If someone knows other ways or programs for this that work better with
other screen readers, please reply to me off list. I can use either NVDA
or Narrator as well.


Thanks,

~Ann


 

Ann,

            Are you asking about adding Alt Text for an image using Microsoft Word?  If so, it's a cinch, as it is under most HTML editors, too.

            If you're referring to something after the fact then it becomes significantly more complicated and murkier.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Ann Byrne
 

brian,

Is there a way to avoid the  characters liberally sprinkled through your messages? the messages would be sooo much easier to read without them.

At 10:24 AM 3/10/2019, you wrote:
Ann,      Are you asking about adding Alt Text for an image using Microsoft Word? If so, it's a cinch, as it is under most HTML editors, too.      If you're referring to something after the fact then it becomes significantly more complicated and murkier.--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â

  Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, andd wrong.

     ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


 

Ann,

That's something on your end, not mine, and I have no idea what that might be.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


JM Casey
 

Hi Anne.

It might have something to do with your encoding; I do not see these
characters normally in Brian's messages, but in the one you quoted below
yours, as in, in your response where you have quoted his message, they do
appear.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: March 10, 2019 11:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Adding alt tags to images?

brian,

Is there a way to avoid the  characters
liberally sprinkled through your messages? the messages would be sooo much
easier to read without them.


At 10:24 AM 3/10/2019, you wrote:
Ann,      Are you asking about
adding Alt Text for an image using Microsoft
Word? If so, it's a cinch, as it is under most
HTML editors, too.      If you're
referring to something after the fact then it
becomes significantly more complicated and murkier.--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â

  Explanations exist; they have existed for
all time; there is always a well-known solution
to every human problem — neat, plausible, andd wrong.

     ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


ann
 

Hi,

The Alt tags I am talking about are what is seen by any decent modern screen reader when browsing images ont he web. I have an image to upload, and I'd like to add an alt tag to it since it only currently has a Jaws label, wich is nice for my local Jaws and computer use, but probably won't help anyone else much on the web.

So, would Word be the easiest way for me to add an Alt tag to this image that all oculd read before uploading it? Or would some other tool be better?

Thanks for any advice,
~Ann


On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 11:24 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Ann,

            Are you asking about adding Alt Text for an image using Microsoft Word?  If so, it's a cinch, as it is under most HTML editors, too.

            If you're referring to something after the fact then it becomes significantly more complicated and murkier.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


 

I know of no way to add alt text to image files themselves in a way that a screen reader picks up on.  That sort of alt text is a function of the thing into which the image is embedded, such as a Word Document or webpage.

One can add alt text to image metadata, but screen readers do not look at image metadata to decide what they're going to announce for an image.

See:  https://throughmyeyesinclusivedesign.wordpress.com/2016/12/13/adding-alt-text-to-image-metadata/ 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


 

This article from Adobe, 

Adding alternate text to images | Adobe Indesign accessiblity

, also makes the point I'm trying to make:

"The alt text you entered is included whenever you export this InDesign file as an EPUB, HTML, or PDF document. However, it is not added to the metadata for the image file itself, so you'll need to re-enter it if you use the image in a different document."

Alt-text is not a property of the image file metadata itself as a dedicated field, which makes sense since the same image could be used in a hundred different sites where what the designer wants the user to take away from that image is entirely different.  Alt-text is a property of the object into which the image is embedded, which allows it to be purpose specific.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Steve Nutt
 

Hi Anne,

 

If your web site is using WordPress, you can easily add Alt Text using the WordPress editor, at the time you upload the image.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ann
Sent: 10 March 2019 18:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Adding alt tags to images?

 

Hi,

The Alt tags I am talking about are what is seen by any decent modern screen reader when browsing images ont he web. I have an image to upload, and I'd like to add an alt tag to it since it only currently has a Jaws label, wich is nice for my local Jaws and computer use, but probably won't help anyone else much on the web.

So, would Word be the easiest way for me to add an Alt tag to this image that all oculd read before uploading it? Or would some other tool be better?

Thanks for any advice,
~Ann


On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 11:24 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Ann,

            Are you asking about adding Alt Text for an image using Microsoft Word?  If so, it's a cinch, as it is under most HTML editors, too.

            If you're referring to something after the fact then it becomes significantly more complicated and murkier.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


ann
 

Hi,

I guess I should have said alt text instead of alt tags, if that makes a difference.

And, am I guessing right that the ability to add all tags or text to any images is totally dependent on where and how it is being uploaded?

Thanks,
~Ann



On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 05:45 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

Hi Anne,

 

If your web site is using WordPress, you can easily add Alt Text using the WordPress editor, at the time you upload the image.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ann
Sent: 10 March 2019 18:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Adding alt tags to images?

 

Hi,

The Alt tags I am talking about are what is seen by any decent modern screen reader when browsing images ont he web. I have an image to upload, and I'd like to add an alt tag to it since it only currently has a Jaws label, wich is nice for my local Jaws and computer use, but probably won't help anyone else much on the web.

So, would Word be the easiest way for me to add an Alt tag to this image that all oculd read before uploading it? Or would some other tool be better?

Thanks for any advice,
~Ann


On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 11:24 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Ann,

            Are you asking about adding Alt Text for an image using Microsoft Word?  If so, it's a cinch, as it is under most HTML editors, too.

            If you're referring to something after the fact then it becomes significantly more complicated and murkier.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 


Steve Nutt
 

Yes.

 

As I say, if you have a WordPress web site, it is simplicity itself.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ann
Sent: 13 March 2019 05:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Adding alt tags to images?

 

Hi,

I guess I should have said alt text instead of alt tags, if that makes a difference.

And, am I guessing right that the ability to add all tags or text to any images is totally dependent on where and how it is being uploaded?

Thanks,
~Ann



On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 05:45 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

Hi Anne,

 

If your web site is using WordPress, you can easily add Alt Text using the WordPress editor, at the time you upload the image.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ann
Sent: 10 March 2019 18:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Adding alt tags to images?

 

Hi,

The Alt tags I am talking about are what is seen by any decent modern screen reader when browsing images ont he web. I have an image to upload, and I'd like to add an alt tag to it since it only currently has a Jaws label, wich is nice for my local Jaws and computer use, but probably won't help anyone else much on the web.

So, would Word be the easiest way for me to add an Alt tag to this image that all oculd read before uploading it? Or would some other tool be better?

Thanks for any advice,
~Ann


On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 11:24 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Ann,

            Are you asking about adding Alt Text for an image using Microsoft Word?  If so, it's a cinch, as it is under most HTML editors, too.

            If you're referring to something after the fact then it becomes significantly more complicated and murkier.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 


Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Ann,

If you are interested in the html code for adding alternate text to a graphic image, here is one example without specifying height and width.  If you needed to do that you would add that in before the greater than sign at the end.  Be sure and read the punctuation.

 

<img src="eagle2.jpg" alt="an eagle in flight>

 

If you were adding height and width before the greater than sign you would do something like width=”100” height=”100”

Or whatever would match the image.

Of course, Wordpress probably puts all that in for you, but I don’t use it.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ann
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 10:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Adding alt tags to images?

 

Hi,

I guess I should have said alt text instead of alt tags, if that makes a difference.

And, am I guessing right that the ability to add all tags or text to any images is totally dependent on where and how it is being uploaded?

Thanks,
~Ann



On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 05:45 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

Hi Anne,

 

If your web site is using WordPress, you can easily add Alt Text using the WordPress editor, at the time you upload the image.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ann
Sent: 10 March 2019 18:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Adding alt tags to images?

 

Hi,

The Alt tags I am talking about are what is seen by any decent modern screen reader when browsing images ont he web. I have an image to upload, and I'd like to add an alt tag to it since it only currently has a Jaws label, wich is nice for my local Jaws and computer use, but probably won't help anyone else much on the web.

So, would Word be the easiest way for me to add an Alt tag to this image that all oculd read before uploading it? Or would some other tool be better?

Thanks for any advice,
~Ann


On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 11:24 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Ann,

            Are you asking about adding Alt Text for an image using Microsoft Word?  If so, it's a cinch, as it is under most HTML editors, too.

            If you're referring to something after the fact then it becomes significantly more complicated and murkier.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 


 

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 01:07 AM, ann wrote:
And, am I guessing right that the ability to add all tags or text to any images is totally dependent on where and how it is being uploaded?
Yes, if you change the word "uploaded" to inserted.  You can add alt text not only to images, but to all sorts of objects, and not only on web pages, but in MS-Word documents, PDF documents, and the list goes on and on.

The exact method for getting it there varies based on the program being used to create the content, but there tends to be similarity in that alt text is always a property of the thing being annotated, and that generally means you're going to find alt text somewhere in a properties dialog.

 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore