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general accessibility of Google apps


Amy Bower
 

I just learned that my institution might be switching all of its emailing and calendaring system to Google products. As a long-term Outlook user, this bums me out a lot. I haven’t used Google products much since my first attempts were incredibly frustrating. I think they have come some ways in making their products more accessible to screen readers, but my sense is still that accessibility is still more clunky and cumbersome than e.g., Outlook.

I would be interested to hear from anyone who is a power Google user with Jaws, who can hopefully reassure me that I won’t have to spend weeks learning how to use Google mail etc with Jaws. I’ve struggled through learning how to use Google calendar because I had to for other reasons, but even after 6 months, I find it more cumbersome to use than Outlook. If anyone can point to resources where the accessibility of e.g. Outlook and Google are compared and assessed, that would be helpful. I know there are online resources, including at Freedom Scientific (or whatever they call themselves this week), and the Google people have an accessibility department etc, but when all is said and done, is the accessibility within the Google environment as efficient as in Outlook? I’m not sure I can stop the train at my institution at this point, but I’m willing to try anything. Thanks.

-Amy

Dr. Amy S. Bower

Senior Scientist and Department Chair

Department of Physical Oceanography

MS #21

226 Woods Hole Road

Woods Hole, MA  02543  USA

v:  508-289-2781

f: 508-457-2181

e: abower@...

www: http://www.whoi.edu/scientist/abower

 


Richard Turner
 


I'm not a Google fan, and you are right, the outlook calendar is far better.
But, are you still going to be using Office, or have to use the online Google interface?
I couldn't imagine being nearly as productive with the Google interface.
Good luck,
Richard


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker



On Feb 27, 2019, at 1:03 PM, Amy Bower <abower@...> wrote:

I just learned that my institution might be switching all of its emailing and calendaring system to Google products. As a long-term Outlook user, this bums me out a lot. I haven’t used Google products much since my first attempts were incredibly frustrating. I think they have come some ways in making their products more accessible to screen readers, but my sense is still that accessibility is still more clunky and cumbersome than e.g., Outlook.

I would be interested to hear from anyone who is a power Google user with Jaws, who can hopefully reassure me that I won’t have to spend weeks learning how to use Google mail etc with Jaws. I’ve struggled through learning how to use Google calendar because I had to for other reasons, but even after 6 months, I find it more cumbersome to use than Outlook. If anyone can point to resources where the accessibility of e.g. Outlook and Google are compared and assessed, that would be helpful. I know there are online resources, including at Freedom Scientific (or whatever they call themselves this week), and the Google people have an accessibility department etc, but when all is said and done, is the accessibility within the Google environment as efficient as in Outlook? I’m not sure I can stop the train at my institution at this point, but I’m willing to try anything. Thanks.

-Amy

Dr. Amy S. Bower

Senior Scientist and Department Chair

Department of Physical Oceanography

MS #21

226 Woods Hole Road

Woods Hole, MA  02543  USA

v:  508-289-2781

f: 508-457-2181

e: abower@...

www: http://www.whoi.edu/scientist/abower

 


Jim Fettgather
 

Hello, I use Google Docs on a regular basis, and it is usable for
sure, with lots of hotkeys but a real productivity killer, it lags
behind somewhat, but is possible for those without an alternative.

On 2/27/19, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:

I'm not a Google fan, and you are right, the outlook calendar is far
better.
But, are you still going to be using Office, or have to use the online
Google interface?
I couldn't imagine being nearly as productive with the Google interface.
Good luck,
Richard



The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't
have any." -- Alice Walker


On Feb 27, 2019, at 1:03 PM, Amy Bower
<abower@whoi.edu<mailto:abower@whoi.edu>> wrote:

I just learned that my institution might be switching all of its emailing
and calendaring system to Google products. As a long-term Outlook user, this
bums me out a lot. I haven’t used Google products much since my first
attempts were incredibly frustrating. I think they have come some ways in
making their products more accessible to screen readers, but my sense is
still that accessibility is still more clunky and cumbersome than e.g.,
Outlook.
I would be interested to hear from anyone who is a power Google user with
Jaws, who can hopefully reassure me that I won’t have to spend weeks
learning how to use Google mail etc with Jaws. I’ve struggled through
learning how to use Google calendar because I had to for other reasons, but
even after 6 months, I find it more cumbersome to use than Outlook. If
anyone can point to resources where the accessibility of e.g. Outlook and
Google are compared and assessed, that would be helpful. I know there are
online resources, including at Freedom Scientific (or whatever they call
themselves this week), and the Google people have an accessibility
department etc, but when all is said and done, is the accessibility within
the Google environment as efficient as in Outlook? I’m not sure I can stop
the train at my institution at this point, but I’m willing to try anything.
Thanks.
-Amy
Dr. Amy S. Bower
Senior Scientist and Department Chair
Department of Physical Oceanography
MS #21
226 Woods Hole Road
Woods Hole, MA 02543 USA
v: 508-289-2781
f: 508-457-2181
e: abower@whoi.edu<mailto:abower@whoi.edu>
www: http://www.whoi.edu/scientist/abower






Hackett, Connie
 

We have a professor that is blind and our college changed our email system to gmail. I imaped her gmail account to Outlook because she had a hard time navigating gmail with JAWS. Here is a link on how to imap gmail to Outlook.


I hope this helps.

Connie


On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 5:16 PM Jim Fettgather <jimfettgather@...> wrote:
Hello, I use Google Docs on a regular basis, and it is usable for
sure, with lots of hotkeys  but a real productivity killer, it lags
behind somewhat, but is possible for those without an alternative.

On 2/27/19, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:
>
> I'm not a Google fan, and you are right, the outlook calendar is far
> better.
> But, are you still going to be using Office, or have to use the online
> Google interface?
> I couldn't imagine being nearly as productive with the Google interface.
> Good luck,
> Richard
>
>
>
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't
> have any." -- Alice Walker
>
>
> On Feb 27, 2019, at 1:03 PM, Amy Bower
> <abower@...<mailto:abower@...>> wrote:
>
> I just learned that my institution might be switching all of its emailing
> and calendaring system to Google products. As a long-term Outlook user, this
> bums me out a lot. I haven’t used Google products much since my first
> attempts were incredibly frustrating. I think they have come some ways in
> making their products more accessible to screen readers, but my sense is
> still that accessibility is still more clunky and cumbersome than e.g.,
> Outlook.
> I would be interested to hear from anyone who is a power Google user with
> Jaws, who can hopefully reassure me that I won’t have to spend weeks
> learning how to use Google mail etc with Jaws. I’ve struggled through
> learning how to use Google calendar because I had to for other reasons, but
> even after 6 months, I find it more cumbersome to use than Outlook. If
> anyone can point to resources where the accessibility of e.g. Outlook and
> Google are compared and assessed, that would be helpful. I know there are
> online resources, including at Freedom Scientific (or whatever they call
> themselves this week), and the Google people have an accessibility
> department etc, but when all is said and done, is the accessibility within
> the Google environment as efficient as in Outlook? I’m not sure I can stop
> the train at my institution at this point, but I’m willing to try anything.
> Thanks.
> -Amy
> Dr. Amy S. Bower
> Senior Scientist and Department Chair
> Department of Physical Oceanography
> MS #21
> 226 Woods Hole Road
> Woods Hole, MA  02543  USA
> v:  508-289-2781
> f: 508-457-2181
> e: abower@...<mailto:abower@...>
> www: http://www.whoi.edu/scientist/abower
>
>
>
>
>
>





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Connie Hackett
Assistive Technology Specialist
Springfield Technical Community College
413.755.4082

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Jerry Berrier <jerry.berrier@...>
 

Hi all,

 

I am a JAWS user. I use Google products every day, and I agree that I lose some productivity.

I use Outlook for Gmail, although I also use the website some of the time.  I have learned some tricks that make it usable, but it’s the least accessible of all of the Google apps I have tried.

Google calendar is wonderfully accessible with JAWS. I almost never revert to the calendar in Outlook.

With Google calendar, it’s easy to invite people to meetings, and I can select a meeting time time based on the availability of the recipients I have added to the invitation.

It’s the one Google app that has added to my productivity.

 

 

Jerry Berrier

Director of Education Technology

Perkins School for the Blind
175 North Beacon Street
Watertown MA 02472
P: 617-972-7826
Perkins.org

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 4:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: general accessibility of Google apps

 

 

I'm not a Google fan, and you are right, the outlook calendar is far better.

But, are you still going to be using Office, or have to use the online Google interface?

I couldn't imagine being nearly as productive with the Google interface.

Good luck,

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Feb 27, 2019, at 1:03 PM, Amy Bower <abower@...> wrote:

I just learned that my institution might be switching all of its emailing and calendaring system to Google products. As a long-term Outlook user, this bums me out a lot. I haven’t used Google products much since my first attempts were incredibly frustrating. I think they have come some ways in making their products more accessible to screen readers, but my sense is still that accessibility is still more clunky and cumbersome than e.g., Outlook.

I would be interested to hear from anyone who is a power Google user with Jaws, who can hopefully reassure me that I won’t have to spend weeks learning how to use Google mail etc with Jaws. I’ve struggled through learning how to use Google calendar because I had to for other reasons, but even after 6 months, I find it more cumbersome to use than Outlook. If anyone can point to resources where the accessibility of e.g. Outlook and Google are compared and assessed, that would be helpful. I know there are online resources, including at Freedom Scientific (or whatever they call themselves this week), and the Google people have an accessibility department etc, but when all is said and done, is the accessibility within the Google environment as efficient as in Outlook? I’m not sure I can stop the train at my institution at this point, but I’m willing to try anything. Thanks.

-Amy

Dr. Amy S. Bower

Senior Scientist and Department Chair

Department of Physical Oceanography

MS #21

226 Woods Hole Road

Woods Hole, MA  02543  USA

v:  508-289-2781

f: 508-457-2181

e: abower@...

www: http://www.whoi.edu/scientist/abower