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OCR and JPG files


John Doering
 

Hello:

Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

 

John Doering

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Don Mauck
 

You can do “JAWS+Spacebar then “o” and then either “e” or “w”. I t doesn’t really give you anything, but give it a shot. You can also try using the application key then the letter “j” which recognize any text if there is any. The first way you have to open the file, the second way, you just right click (the application key).

HTH.

 

From: John Doering <john.doering@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 1:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OCR and JPG files

 

Hello:

Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

 

John Doering

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Ann Byrne
 

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm!

At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




John Doering

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John Doering
 

Don:

Tried your suggestion, but no luck.

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

 

You can do “JAWS+Spacebar then “o” and then either “e” or “w”. I t doesn’t really give you anything, but give it a shot. You can also try using the application key then the letter “j” which recognize any text if there is any. The first way you have to open the file, the second way, you just right click (the application key).

HTH.

 

From: John Doering <john.doering@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 1:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OCR and JPG files

 

Hello:

Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

 

John Doering

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John Doering
 

After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with JAWS choice.

Regards,




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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




John Doering

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John Doering
 

I should of mentioned, I am using Windows 7 with JAWS 18.

Regards,




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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




John Doering

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Don Mauck
 

Then you
Can only use the spacebar+insert functionality.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Doering <john.doering@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I should of mentioned, I am using Windows 7 with JAWS 18.

Regards,




John Doering
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




John Doering

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Mich Verrier
 

Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos am I wrong? From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: December 13, 2018 4:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with JAWS choice.

Regards,




John Doering
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




John Doering

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Nermin
 

Hi Mich,

technically, you're correct. However, since a photo could also be a hpotographed copy of a document, it may well be something OCR readable.

Regards,
Nermin


Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi John,
 
I thought the, Recognize with Jaws, feature came out with Jaws 18 but, it didn't come until Jaws2018.  You could also try using Openbook to extract any text from the file as well.
With Openbook open the file, press, Control + P, to open the print dialogue, navigate to, Freedom Import Printer, and press enter.  Wait a little bit for Openbook to get started and to scan the image.  If it finds any text it should read it.
Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I should of mentioned, I am using Windows 7 with JAWS 18.

Regards,




John Doering
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this.  Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J.  For me, it worked like a charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
>Hello:
>Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
>
>John Doering
>
>Administrative Pricing Asst
>
>p. 4147783040 Extn:4063  t. 800-642-8778
>
>
>
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Ann Byrne
 

Which version of JAWS do you have? I think the function was added in JAWS 18, but it might have been 2018.

At 03:28 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with JAWS choice.

Regards,




John Doering
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




John Doering

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p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778



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Ann Byrne
 

They are only images, yes. But sometimes they are images of text. Why anybody would do that is beyond me, unless of course someone took a picture of--for example--a label and wanted to send it to someone else.

At 03:29 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos am I wrong? From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: December 13, 2018 4:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with JAWS choice.

Regards,




John Doering
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




John Doering

Administrative Pricing Asst

p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778



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Don Walls
 

Actually, my church uses a software which allows text layout as in a magazine, and the contents are not readable by a screen reader because they are captured as images. The reason for this is to allow the appearance as in a periodical but the text isn't accessible.

Don

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

They are only images, yes. But sometimes they are images of
text. Why anybody would do that is beyond me, unless of course
someone took a picture of--for example--a label and wanted to send it
to someone else.
At 03:29 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos am I wrong? From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: December 13, 2018 4:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with JAWS choice.

Regards,




John Doering
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p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




John Doering

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Mario
 

John, try pressing insert+spacebar, o, f. I'm not sure if the JPG needs
to be opened with an image editor like Paint or the OCR commands can be
issued on the file without opening it first.

the synopsis for this command is "Captures an image from the selected
file in Windows Explorer and recognizes the text from the image using
the OCR component."

-------- Original Message --------
From: John Doering [mailto:john.doering@...]
Sent: Thu, Dec 13, 2018 4:28 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OCR and JPG files

After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with
JAWS choice.

Regards,




John Doering
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion,
without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to
"recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like
a charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




John Doering

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Milton Ota <mota1252@...>
 

If you are sure that a jpg file has text, you can OCR it with the onboard OCR in JAWS.

Using the application key and highlighting the jpg file, press the letter j and it should work.


Flor Lynch
 

Many sighted people genuinely don't know the difference between photo-text and 'real' text (as we may call it), unless it is explained to them.

.JPG files can vary quite a bit in resolution, which would affect the quality of the text (if any) gleaned from converted OCR.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

They are only images, yes. But sometimes they are images of
text. Why anybody would do that is beyond me, unless of course
someone took a picture of--for example--a label and wanted to send it
to someone else.
At 03:29 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos am I wrong? From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: December 13, 2018 4:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with JAWS choice.

Regards,




John Doering
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




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Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...>
 

Hi all!
What is the difference between (real) text and (photo) text? I need to know
so that I can explain it myself. I have to deal with this sort of garbage
myself in my own technical work and I need to be ale to convert PDFs into
something that's accessible.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 6:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

Many sighted people genuinely don't know the difference between photo-text
and 'real' text (as we may call it), unless it is explained to them.

.JPG files can vary quite a bit in resolution, which would affect the
quality of the text (if any) gleaned from converted OCR.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

They are only images, yes. But sometimes they are images of text. Why
anybody would do that is beyond me, unless of course someone took a picture
of--for example--a label and wanted to send it to someone else.
At 03:29 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos am
I wrong? From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: December 13, 2018 4:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with
JAWS choice.

Regards,




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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion,
without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to
"recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a
charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




John Doering

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Tony Schnurr
 

Kendra,
When people refer to real text they are talking about actual ASCII based text which is the kind of text that was entered in a word document or some other editor.
Though this kind of text can have font and other attributes associated with it; you can navigate and read it with jaws because they are discrete elements.
When folks talk about picture text. They are referring to text that is literally just a picture of the text. The letters in that picture are simply objects just like any other object in a picture. The only way a blind person can read those would be to use OCR to do recognition on that picture. The caveat being OCR does not always render exact format, however you would usually get enough of the text to be able to glean something out of it. The reason we encounter these pictures of text, is due to many folks finding it easy to simply use a scanner to scan an image of a document into a PDF file.
Hope this explanation helps.
Regards
Tony

On Dec 14, 2018, at 00:32, Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...> wrote:

Hi all!
What is the difference between (real) text and (photo) text? I need to know
so that I can explain it myself. I have to deal with this sort of garbage
myself in my own technical work and I need to be ale to convert PDFs into
something that's accessible.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 6:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

Many sighted people genuinely don't know the difference between photo-text
and 'real' text (as we may call it), unless it is explained to them.

.JPG files can vary quite a bit in resolution, which would affect the
quality of the text (if any) gleaned from converted OCR.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

They are only images, yes. But sometimes they are images of text. Why
anybody would do that is beyond me, unless of course someone took a picture
of--for example--a label and wanted to send it to someone else.
At 03:29 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos am
I wrong? From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: December 13, 2018 4:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with
JAWS choice.

Regards,




John Doering
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p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion,
without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to
"recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a
charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




John Doering

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Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Real text can be edited, in a text editor. Or a word processor, if the
format is something like .docx or .rtf. A picture or photo of text displays
the text perfectly, but the text cannot be manipulated at all, just viewed.
And of course without taking some action, a screen reader cannot read a
picture of text.

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kendra Schafer
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 12:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

Hi all!
What is the difference between (real) text and (photo) text? I need to know
so that I can explain it myself. I have to deal with this sort of garbage
myself in my own technical work and I need to be ale to convert PDFs into
something that's accessible.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 6:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

Many sighted people genuinely don't know the difference between photo-text
and 'real' text (as we may call it), unless it is explained to them.

.JPG files can vary quite a bit in resolution, which would affect the
quality of the text (if any) gleaned from converted OCR.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

They are only images, yes. But sometimes they are images of text. Why
anybody would do that is beyond me, unless of course someone took a picture
of--for example--a label and wanted to send it to someone else.
At 03:29 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos am
I wrong? From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: December 13, 2018 4:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with
JAWS choice.

Regards,




John Doering
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion,
without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to
"recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a
charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




John Doering

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On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 07:27 AM, Kendra Schafer wrote:
I need to be ale to convert PDFs into something that's accessible.
Which can vary between dirt simple and well-nigh impossible depending on the nature of the source image PDF (photo text - more commonly known as an image PDF in the PDF world) itself.

If it's something like a straight business letter, newspaper article, or the like OCR processing these days generally goes without a hitch.  If, however, it's something like a court document where the actual body text in the original is entered in conjunction with a template containing line numbers down each side of the text then it becomes very ugly indeed as OCR software will think those line numbers are part of the text itself.  Their actual purpose is just to sit there as a place identification aid if two people are talking about the same document over the phone and you need to get someone to the same page and same line on the page very quickly.

I posted the following on the NVDA group quite a while back, but the information is still entirely applicable:  Free & Good OCR Software for Image Scanned PDFs
Even though PDF-XChange Viewer has been discontinued, it is still available for download and works splendidly for the purpose of OCRing image PDFs and saving the resulting text layer permanently, so it's there if you will be revisiting the same files repeatedly.
 
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