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John Doering
Hello: Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?
Thanks in advance,
John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst
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Don Mauck
You can do “JAWS+Spacebar then “o” and then either “e” or “w”. I t doesn’t really give you anything, but give it a shot. You can also try using the application key then the letter “j” which recognize any text if there is any. The first way you have to open the file, the second way, you just right click (the application key). HTH.
From: John Doering <john.doering@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 1:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: OCR and JPG files
Hello: Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?
Thanks in advance,
John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst
p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778
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Ann Byrne
I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm!
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John Doering
Don: Tried your suggestion, but no luck.
Thanks,
John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst
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On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:49 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files
You can do “JAWS+Spacebar then “o” and then either “e” or “w”. I t doesn’t really give you anything, but give it a shot. You can also try using the application key then the letter “j” which recognize any text if there is any. The first way you have to open the file, the second way, you just right click (the application key). HTH.
From: John Doering <john.doering@...>
Hello: Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?
Thanks in advance,
John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst
p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778
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John Doering
After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with JAWS choice.
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Regards, John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778 NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any document attached hereto is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message in confidence to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal and/or attachments in error, please notify me immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm! At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote: Hello: |
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John Doering
I should of mentioned, I am using Windows 7 with JAWS 18.
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Regards, John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778 NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any document attached hereto is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message in confidence to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal and/or attachments in error, please notify me immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm! At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote: Hello: |
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Don Mauck
Then you
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Can only use the spacebar+insert functionality. -----Original Message-----
From: John Doering <john.doering@...> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files I should of mentioned, I am using Windows 7 with JAWS 18. Regards, John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778 NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any document attached hereto is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message in confidence to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal and/or attachments in error, please notify me immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm! At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote: Hello: |
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Mich Verrier
Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos am I wrong? From Mich.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering Sent: December 13, 2018 4:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with JAWS choice. Regards, John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778 NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any document attached hereto is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message in confidence to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal and/or attachments in error, please notify me immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm! At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote: Hello: |
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Nermin
Hi Mich,
technically, you're correct. However, since a photo could also be a hpotographed copy of a document, it may well be something OCR readable. Regards, Nermin |
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Mike B. <mike9902@...>
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Hi John,
I thought the, Recognize
with Jaws, feature came out with Jaws 18 but, it didn't come until
Jaws2018. You could also try using Openbook to extract any text from the
file as well.
With Openbook open the
file, press, Control + P, to open the print dialogue, navigate to, Freedom
Import Printer, and press enter. Wait a little bit for Openbook to get
started and to scan the image. If it finds any text it should read
it.
Take care. Go Rams! Sent from my iBarstool. I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it! ----- Original Message -----
From: John Doering
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files Regards, John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778 NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any document attached hereto is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message in confidence to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal and/or attachments in error, please notify me immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm! At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote: >Hello: >Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes? > >Thanks in advance, > > > > >John Doering > >Administrative Pricing Asst > >p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778 > > > >NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any document >attached hereto is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are >not the intended recipient, nor the employee or agent responsible for >delivering this message in confidence to the intended recipient(s), you >are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, >and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this >transmittal or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have >received this transmittal and/or attachments in error, please notify me >immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any >attachments. > > |
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Ann Byrne
Which version of JAWS do you have? I think the function was added in JAWS 18, but it might have been 2018.
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Ann Byrne
They are only images, yes. But sometimes they are images of text. Why anybody would do that is beyond me, unless of course someone took a picture of--for example--a label and wanted to send it to someone else.
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Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos am I wrong? From Mich. |
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Don Walls
Actually, my church uses a software which allows text layout as in a magazine, and the contents are not readable by a screen reader because they are captured as images. The reason for this is to allow the appearance as in a periodical but the text isn't accessible.
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From: Ann Byrne Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:18 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files They are only images, yes. But sometimes they are images of text. Why anybody would do that is beyond me, unless of course someone took a picture of--for example--a label and wanted to send it to someone else. At 03:29 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote: Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos am I wrong? From Mich. |
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Mario
John, try pressing insert+spacebar, o, f. I'm not sure if the JPG needs
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to be opened with an image editor like Paint or the OCR commands can be issued on the file without opening it first. the synopsis for this command is "Captures an image from the selected file in Windows Explorer and recognizes the text from the image using the OCR component." -------- Original Message --------
From: John Doering [mailto:john.doering@...] Sent: Thu, Dec 13, 2018 4:28 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: OCR and JPG files After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with JAWS choice. Regards, John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778 NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any document attached hereto is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message in confidence to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal and/or attachments in error, please notify me immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm! At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote: Hello: Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes? Thanks in advance, John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778 NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any document attached hereto is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message in confidence to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal and/or attachments in error, please notify me immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. |
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Milton Ota <mota1252@...>
If you are sure that a jpg file has text, you can OCR it with the onboard OCR in JAWS.
Using the application key and highlighting the jpg file, press the letter j and it should work. |
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Flor Lynch
Many sighted people genuinely don't know the difference between photo-text and 'real' text (as we may call it), unless it is explained to them.
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.JPG files can vary quite a bit in resolution, which would affect the quality of the text (if any) gleaned from converted OCR. -----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:18 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files They are only images, yes. But sometimes they are images of text. Why anybody would do that is beyond me, unless of course someone took a picture of--for example--a label and wanted to send it to someone else. At 03:29 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote: Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos am I wrong? From Mich. |
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Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...>
Hi all!
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What is the difference between (real) text and (photo) text? I need to know so that I can explain it myself. I have to deal with this sort of garbage myself in my own technical work and I need to be ale to convert PDFs into something that's accessible. -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 6:44 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files Many sighted people genuinely don't know the difference between photo-text and 'real' text (as we may call it), unless it is explained to them. .JPG files can vary quite a bit in resolution, which would affect the quality of the text (if any) gleaned from converted OCR. -----Original Message----- From: Ann Byrne Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:18 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files They are only images, yes. But sometimes they are images of text. Why anybody would do that is beyond me, unless of course someone took a picture of--for example--a label and wanted to send it to someone else. At 03:29 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote: Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos amattachments. -----Original Message-----charm! At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:Hello: |
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Tony Schnurr
Kendra,
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When people refer to real text they are talking about actual ASCII based text which is the kind of text that was entered in a word document or some other editor. Though this kind of text can have font and other attributes associated with it; you can navigate and read it with jaws because they are discrete elements. When folks talk about picture text. They are referring to text that is literally just a picture of the text. The letters in that picture are simply objects just like any other object in a picture. The only way a blind person can read those would be to use OCR to do recognition on that picture. The caveat being OCR does not always render exact format, however you would usually get enough of the text to be able to glean something out of it. The reason we encounter these pictures of text, is due to many folks finding it easy to simply use a scanner to scan an image of a document into a PDF file. Hope this explanation helps. Regards Tony On Dec 14, 2018, at 00:32, Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...> wrote: |
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Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
Real text can be edited, in a text editor. Or a word processor, if the
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format is something like .docx or .rtf. A picture or photo of text displays the text perfectly, but the text cannot be manipulated at all, just viewed. And of course without taking some action, a screen reader cannot read a picture of text. Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kendra Schafer Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 12:33 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files Hi all! What is the difference between (real) text and (photo) text? I need to know so that I can explain it myself. I have to deal with this sort of garbage myself in my own technical work and I need to be ale to convert PDFs into something that's accessible. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 6:44 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files Many sighted people genuinely don't know the difference between photo-text and 'real' text (as we may call it), unless it is explained to them. .JPG files can vary quite a bit in resolution, which would affect the quality of the text (if any) gleaned from converted OCR. -----Original Message----- From: Ann Byrne Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:18 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files They are only images, yes. But sometimes they are images of text. Why anybody would do that is beyond me, unless of course someone took a picture of--for example--a label and wanted to send it to someone else. At 03:29 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote: Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos amattachments. -----Original Message-----charm! At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:Hello: |
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On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 07:27 AM, Kendra Schafer wrote:
I need to be ale to convert PDFs into something that's accessible.Which can vary between dirt simple and well-nigh impossible depending on the nature of the source image PDF (photo text - more commonly known as an image PDF in the PDF world) itself. If it's something like a straight business letter, newspaper article, or the like OCR processing these days generally goes without a hitch. If, however, it's something like a court document where the actual body text in the original is entered in conjunction with a template containing line numbers down each side of the text then it becomes very ugly indeed as OCR software will think those line numbers are part of the text itself. Their actual purpose is just to sit there as a place identification aid if two people are talking about the same document over the phone and you need to get someone to the same page and same line on the page very quickly. I posted the following on the NVDA group quite a while back, but the information is still entirely applicable: Free & Good OCR Software for Image Scanned PDFs Even though PDF-XChange Viewer has been discontinued, it is still available for download and works splendidly for the purpose of OCRing image PDFs and saving the resulting text layer permanently, so it's there if you will be revisiting the same files repeatedly. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore |
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