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Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. <kramlinger.keith@...>
 

Hi,

 

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

 

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

 

Using the latest JAWS.

 

Thanks in advance. Keith
Chris Hill
 

No. 



On 11/8/2018 13:05, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,

 

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

 

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

 

Using the latest JAWS.

 

Thanks in advance. Keith
Don H
 

One issue is the availability of drivers for a older computer. I also noticed that when I upgraded a win 7 to Win 10 OS the computer seemed to run much slower. Having said that Win 10 seems to be a good operating system.

On 11/8/2018 1:05 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,
I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.
Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.
Using the latest JAWS.
Thanks in advance. Keith
Ben Humphreys <brhbrhbrh@...>
 

Hi Keith,

One thing I've noticed about Windows 10 -- the Jaws cursor is becoming increasingly less functional. I find I have to resort to OCr more often than in the past.

But there's a lot to like too, such as a much-improved Narrator (which works even when Jaws crashes).

I think the Ribbon-based Explorer is more cumbersome.

Also, a lot more Tabbing when in Windows configuration screens.

Nothing that's a deal killer, but I do miss how well the Jaws cursor worked back in Windows 7 and XP days.

Ben

At 02:05 PM 11/8/2018, you wrote:
Hi,

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

Using the latest JAWS.

Thanks in advance. Keith
Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
 

The JAWS development team is working on that issue.
It is certainly not ready for prime time, not yet.
But there is hope.
Larry

At 02:26 PM 11/8/2018, you wrote:
Hi Keith,

One thing I've noticed about Windows 10 -- the Jaws cursor is becoming increasingly less functional. I find I have to resort to OCr more often than in the past.

But there's a lot to like too, such as a much-improved Narrator (which works even when Jaws crashes).

I think the Ribbon-based Explorer is more cumbersome.

Also, a lot more Tabbing when in Windows configuration screens.

Nothing that's a deal killer, but I do miss how well the Jaws cursor worked back in Windows 7 and XP days.

Ben

At 02:05 PM 11/8/2018, you wrote:
Hi,

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

Using the latest JAWS.

Thanks in advance. Keith
Roger Newell
 

I also use the touch cursor because I find that it works better than
OCR in many situations.

On 11/9/18, Ben Humphreys <brhbrhbrh@...> wrote:
Hi Keith,

One thing I've noticed about Windows 10 -- the Jaws cursor is
becoming increasingly less functional. I find I have to resort to
OCr more often than in the past.

But there's a lot to like too, such as a much-improved Narrator
(which works even when Jaws crashes).

I think the Ribbon-based Explorer is more cumbersome.

Also, a lot more Tabbing when in Windows configuration screens.

Nothing that's a deal killer, but I do miss how well the Jaws cursor
worked back in Windows 7 and XP days.

Ben

At 02:05 PM 11/8/2018, you wrote:
Hi,

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now,
finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to
Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an
upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if
that would make a difference.

Using the latest JAWS.

Thanks in advance. Keith
Brian Vogel
 

Ultimately, if you (any you) are staying with the Windows ecosystem you will be updating to Windows 10.  It is easier to do this now when there is not a massive wave of simultaneous upgrades occurring at the same time.  Come January 2020, there will be.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

  If you remove all the homosexuals and homosexual influences from what is generally regarded as American culture, you are pretty much left with Let's Make a Deal.

          ~ Fran Lebowitz
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

The Jaws cursor issue is definitely a sad truth, I am currently unable to do a fair number of things in my accounting and point of sale software which with Windows 7 were no problem.
There are, however, also other issues if you are using legacy software by which I mean desktop applications which are maybe a bit older.
In my point of sale software, for example, there are just regular menus like File, Database, Reports etc. Jaws with Windows 7 would read these perfectly well. I could press Alt+R for Reports and then arrow down the list and there were options like Sales, Inventory, Customers, Miscellaneous, Custom etc. Most of these were submenus which I could expand with the right arrow and then down arrow again to find the particular report I wanted.
In Windows 10 this works perfectly as well, e.g. I can press Alt+R, down arrow, right arrow, down arrow again and all that except for one little problem: as I do this everything is visually on the screen but Jaws doesn't speak a thing, zip, nada, kaput.
If I know that a particular report is where I have to down arrow twice, then right arrow to expand and then down arrow 5 times to get to it I can still do it, otherwise I have to ask one of my sighted employees to look as I do it and tell me when I get to where I want to be.
In my accounting software, Sage 50, none of the reports which I used to be able to read with the Jaws cursor are accessible any more. I can work around this since reports can be exported to Excel, but often when I just want to quickly check the balance on a particular account it is just a pain in the neck which takes me three times as long.
I don't necessarily agree with Brian here who says better to do it now than later. Hopefully Vispero will find ways again to make the experience better for those of us who have to use some of these older applications or even new ones which may be suffering from the same problems and in that case sticking with Windows 7 for another year or two is not a bad strategy.
It really is too bad because otherwise I really like Windows 10, it's more stabil and has a lot of good features, but it's one of these situations where it's one step forward and two steps back in terms of accessibility for some users and I am unfortunately one of these users.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ben Humphreys
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 2:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

Hi Keith,

One thing I've noticed about Windows 10 -- the Jaws cursor is
becoming increasingly less functional. I find I have to resort to
OCr more often than in the past.

But there's a lot to like too, such as a much-improved Narrator
(which works even when Jaws crashes).

I think the Ribbon-based Explorer is more cumbersome.

Also, a lot more Tabbing when in Windows configuration screens.

Nothing that's a deal killer, but I do miss how well the Jaws cursor
worked back in Windows 7 and XP days.

Ben

At 02:05 PM 11/8/2018, you wrote:
Hi,

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now,
finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to
Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an
upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if
that would make a difference.

Using the latest JAWS.

Thanks in advance. Keith
Steve Matzura
 

I'm running Windows 10 on older machines--2012 older anyway--and it works just fine. I haven't had one single problem since upgrading in February, 2017.


On 11/8/2018 2:05 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,

 

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

 

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

 

Using the latest JAWS.

 

Thanks in advance. Keith
David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...>
 

I have a refurbished computer that it was estimated ran windows 7 originally, now running windows 10. It does work, however, you could make and drink your coffee by the time JAWS loads up. It started with JAWS 18.  I now have a Mac Book pro that was built around 012.  It was converted to a windows 10 computer and it runs a lot faster. That is just my thoughts, yes a windows 7 can be upgraded to 10, you just might get frustrated with the slowness of the performance.     

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: November 9, 2018 3:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

 

I'm running Windows 10 on older machines--2012 older anyway--and it works just fine. I haven't had one single problem since upgrading in February, 2017.

 

On 11/8/2018 2:05 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,

 

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

 

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

 

Using the latest JAWS.

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

 

 
Dave...
 

In my case, my Dell Latitude E6520 reported having hardware not compatible with Windows 10. So I stick with Windows 7 until a new computer falls out of the sky into my lap.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 07:50
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

I have a refurbished computer that it was estimated ran windows 7 originally, now running windows 10. It does work, however, you could make and drink your coffee by the time JAWS loads up. It started with JAWS 18.  I now have a Mac Book pro that was built around 012.  It was converted to a windows 10 computer and it runs a lot faster. That is just my thoughts, yes a windows 7 can be upgraded to 10, you just might get frustrated with the slowness of the performance.     

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: November 9, 2018 3:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

 

I'm running Windows 10 on older machines--2012 older anyway--and it works just fine. I haven't had one single problem since upgrading in February, 2017.

 

On 11/8/2018 2:05 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,

 

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

 

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

 

Using the latest JAWS.

 

Thanks in advance Keith

 

 
Chris Hill
 

There can e lots of reasons for a computer to run slow.  I had slowness issues when i upgraded my old laptop to windows 10.  It wasn't exactly fast under windows 7 either, though.  I finally found the answer: a failing hard drive was the main issue.  Just because windows thinks the drive is okay doesn't mean you shouldn't do a chkdsk once in a while just to check things out.




On 11/9/2018 09:50, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

I have a refurbished computer that it was estimated ran windows 7 originally, now running windows 10. It does work, however, you could make and drink your coffee by the time JAWS loads up. It started with JAWS 18.  I now have a Mac Book pro that was built around 012.  It was converted to a windows 10 computer and it runs a lot faster. That is just my thoughts, yes a windows 7 can be upgraded to 10, you just might get frustrated with the slowness of the performance.     

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: November 9, 2018 3:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

 

I'm running Windows 10 on older machines--2012 older anyway--and it works just fine. I haven't had one single problem since upgrading in February, 2017.

 

On 11/8/2018 2:05 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,

 

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

 

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

 

Using the latest JAWS.

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

 

 
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

You would have to compare Apples to Apples so to speak and look at each computer's CPU, memory and hard drive or SSD. Until very recently I was still using a desktop PC at my business which I bought in February of 2008. It was an inexpensive and basic business PC which back then had what was a $99 CPU, a $79 desktop case with power supply and the only upgrade I made was to change the original hard drive to an SSD a few years ago, it had 8 Gb of RAM. That PC ran Windows 10 just as well as it did Windows 7 except that it crashed less under Windows 10 and in my experience at least Windows 10 runs as good or better on the same hardware as Windows 7 did. One thing which will definitely make the biggest difference is the hard drive, if you were to replace a 6 or 8 year old standard hard drive with an SSD which if you go with a 240 Gb size you can get for probably $99 these days you'd notice a very significant performance boost.

Of course it also depends whether you "upgrade" Windows 7 to Windows 10 or whether you install Windows 10 from scratch including deleting and repartitioning the hard drive, a completely new install will always result in a better running system.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 7:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

 

I have a refurbished computer that it was estimated ran windows 7 originally, now running windows 10. It does work, however, you could make and drink your coffee by the time JAWS loads up. It started with JAWS 18.  I now have a Mac Book pro that was built around 012.  It was converted to a windows 10 computer and it runs a lot faster. That is just my thoughts, yes a windows 7 can be upgraded to 10, you just might get frustrated with the slowness of the performance.     

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: November 9, 2018 3:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

 

I'm running Windows 10 on older machines--2012 older anyway--and it works just fine. I haven't had one single problem since upgrading in February, 2017.

 

On 11/8/2018 2:05 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,

 

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

 

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

 

Using the latest JAWS.

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

 

 
Gerald Levy
 

 
Or for about $150,you could buy a refurbed Windows 10 computer from Computers for the Blind. And it even comes with JAWS 2019 already installed that is good for a whole year.
 
Gerald
 
 
 

From: Dave...
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?
 
In my case, my Dell Latitude E6520 reported having hardware not compatible with Windows 10. So I stick with Windows 7 until a new computer falls out of the sky into my lap.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 07:50
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?
 

I have a refurbished computer that it was estimated ran windows 7 originally, now running windows 10. It does work, however, you could make and drink your coffee by the time JAWS loads up. It started with JAWS 18.  I now have a Mac Book pro that was built around 012.  It was converted to a windows 10 computer and it runs a lot faster. That is just my thoughts, yes a windows 7 can be upgraded to 10, you just might get frustrated with the slowness of the performance.    

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: November 9, 2018 3:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

 

I'm running Windows 10 on older machines--2012 older anyway--and it works just fine. I haven't had one single problem since upgrading in February, 2017.

 

On 11/8/2018 2:05 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,

 

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

 

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

 

Using the latest JAWS.

 

Thanks in advance Keith

 

 
Brian Vogel
 

On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Of course it also depends whether you "upgrade" Windows 7 to Windows 10 or whether you install Windows 10 from scratch including deleting and repartitioning the hard drive, a completely new install will always result in a better running system.
Sieghard, while I can't disagree with you generally, I can specifically.  If you had someone who was assiduous in the "care and feeding" of their Windows 7 (or 8/8.1) system upgrades to Windows 10 are virtually indistinguishable from clean installs.   That being said, most people are far from assiduous about doing the housekeeping necessary to keep any Windows version really clean and uncluttered, and if the system is "well used" and already has issues with instability those tend to carry over.  Upgrading an unstable system tends to result in an unstable system afterward.

The above being said, I still suggest completely clean installs only as a last resort if an individual has years of user data files and installed software they'd like to preserve.  I have found that doing the normal Windows 7/8/8.1 upgrade, followed immediately by another using the same technique within Windows 10 itself (see this article:  Doing an In-place "Upgrade" to Reinstall Windows 10 Keeping Apps/Programs and User Files) and note that you do not need to turn off safe boot, that instruction is superfluous and a grand PITA) pretty much completely purges the current installation of Windows 10 (the upgraded one) and replaces it with a fresh copy.

Only if push comes to shove after having tried the above will I recommend Doing a Completely Clean Install of Windows 10.
The grunt work involved in setting up a system with all its programs, add-ons/extensions, settings tweaks, etc., is terribly tedious so I try to do what I can to avoid it when that's possible.  If it isn't, however . . .
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

  If you remove all the homosexuals and homosexual influences from what is generally regarded as American culture, you are pretty much left with Let's Make a Deal.

          ~ Fran Lebowitz
Joseph Norton
 

Hi:

 

I would say if you have 6 gigs of ram or more, you’ll probably be ok.  Anything less then 6 or even 8 may not be a good idea.

 

I have Windows 10 running on a Dell Laptop that came with Windows 8 originally and it is working, but, with a little hesitation.

 

Since I put an SSD in it, it flies, compared to what it used to do.

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 10:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

 

I have a refurbished computer that it was estimated ran windows 7 originally, now running windows 10. It does work, however, you could make and drink your coffee by the time JAWS loads up. It started with JAWS 18.  I now have a Mac Book pro that was built around 012.  It was converted to a windows 10 computer and it runs a lot faster. That is just my thoughts, yes a windows 7 can be upgraded to 10, you just might get frustrated with the slowness of the performance.     

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: November 9, 2018 3:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

 

I'm running Windows 10 on older machines--2012 older anyway--and it works just fine. I haven't had one single problem since upgrading in February, 2017.

 

On 11/8/2018 2:05 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,

 

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

 

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

 

Using the latest JAWS.

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

 

 

 
David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...>
 

I think Siegart, sorry if I spelled your name incorrectly, hit the nail on the head when he talked about  the hard drive being on its last legs.  Maybe I am out of the loop of techies however, when I hear the term refurbished, I think new hard drive, new battery  and brand new operating system.  In this case, I think they just installed a windows 10 CD. It runs hot within 10 minutes. This is why I think it is running something it does not have the power to run and is basically working to hard.    

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: November 9, 2018 7:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

 

Hi:

 

I would say if you have 6 gigs of ram or more, you’ll probably be ok.  Anything less then 6 or even 8 may not be a good idea.

 

I have Windows 10 running on a Dell Laptop that came with Windows 8 originally and it is working, but, with a little hesitation.

 

Since I put an SSD in it, it flies, compared to what it used to do.

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 10:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

 

I have a refurbished computer that it was estimated ran windows 7 originally, now running windows 10. It does work, however, you could make and drink your coffee by the time JAWS loads up. It started with JAWS 18.  I now have a Mac Book pro that was built around 012.  It was converted to a windows 10 computer and it runs a lot faster. That is just my thoughts, yes a windows 7 can be upgraded to 10, you just might get frustrated with the slowness of the performance.     

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: November 9, 2018 3:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

 

I'm running Windows 10 on older machines--2012 older anyway--and it works just fine. I haven't had one single problem since upgrading in February, 2017.

 

On 11/8/2018 2:05 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,

 

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

 

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

 

Using the latest JAWS.

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

 

 

 
Dave Durber
 

Helloo Chris:
 
Do not run CHKDSK nor, Disk Defrragmenter on a solid state hard drive.

 
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

There can e lots of reasons for a computer to run slow.  I had slowness issues when i upgraded my old laptop to windows 10.  It wasn't exactly fast under windows 7 either, though.  I finally found the answer: a failing hard drive was the main issue.  Just because windows thinks the drive is okay doesn't mean you shouldn't do a chkdsk once in a while just to check things out.




On 11/9/2018 09:50, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

I have a refurbished computer that it was estimated ran windows 7 originally, now running windows 10. It does work, however, you could make and drink your coffee by the time JAWS loads up. It started with JAWS 18.  I now have a Mac Book pro that was built around 012.  It was converted to a windows 10 computer and it runs a lot faster. That is just my thoughts, yes a windows 7 can be upgraded to 10, you just might get frustrated with the slowness of the performance.     

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: November 9, 2018 3:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

 

I'm running Windows 10 on older machines--2012 older anyway--and it works just fine. I haven't had one single problem since upgrading in February, 2017.

 

On 11/8/2018 2:05 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,

 

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

 

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

 

Using the latest JAWS.

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

 

 
Chris Hill
 

Sorry, you are half right.  You should not run a defrag on an ssd, but chkdsk is basically a read test and it will not hurt an ssd.  Have a look at this link:

https://askleo.com/should-i-run-chkdsk-on-my-ssd/


CH

On 11/12/2018 05:52, Dave Durber wrote:

Helloo Chris:
 
Do not run CHKDSK nor, Disk Defrragmenter on a solid state hard drive.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

There can e lots of reasons for a computer to run slow.  I had slowness issues when i upgraded my old laptop to windows 10.  It wasn't exactly fast under windows 7 either, though.  I finally found the answer: a failing hard drive was the main issue.  Just because windows thinks the drive is okay doesn't mean you shouldn't do a chkdsk once in a while just to check things out.




On 11/9/2018 09:50, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

I have a refurbished computer that it was estimated ran windows 7 originally, now running windows 10. It does work, however, you could make and drink your coffee by the time JAWS loads up. It started with JAWS 18.  I now have a Mac Book pro that was built around 012.  It was converted to a windows 10 computer and it runs a lot faster. That is just my thoughts, yes a windows 7 can be upgraded to 10, you just might get frustrated with the slowness of the performance.     

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: November 9, 2018 3:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

 

I'm running Windows 10 on older machines--2012 older anyway--and it works just fine. I haven't had one single problem since upgrading in February, 2017.

 

On 11/8/2018 2:05 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,

 

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

 

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

 

Using the latest JAWS.

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

 

 
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

In Windows 10 as far as I know you can't defrag an SSD, Windows 10 knows if you use an SSD and it will "optimize" it but not defragment it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 5:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

 

Sorry, you are half right.  You should not run a defrag on an ssd, but chkdsk is basically a read test and it will not hurt an ssd.  Have a look at this link:

https://askleo.com/should-i-run-chkdsk-on-my-ssd/


CH

On 11/12/2018 05:52, Dave Durber wrote:

Helloo Chris:

 

Do not run CHKDSK nor, Disk Defrragmenter on a solid state hard drive.

 

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Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 4:13 PM

Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

 

There can e lots of reasons for a computer to run slow.  I had slowness issues when i upgraded my old laptop to windows 10.  It wasn't exactly fast under windows 7 either, though.  I finally found the answer: a failing hard drive was the main issue.  Just because windows thinks the drive is okay doesn't mean you shouldn't do a chkdsk once in a while just to check things out.

 

 

 

On 11/9/2018 09:50, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

I have a refurbished computer that it was estimated ran windows 7 originally, now running windows 10. It does work, however, you could make and drink your coffee by the time JAWS loads up. It started with JAWS 18.  I now have a Mac Book pro that was built around 012.  It was converted to a windows 10 computer and it runs a lot faster. That is just my thoughts, yes a windows 7 can be upgraded to 10, you just might get frustrated with the slowness of the performance.     

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: November 9, 2018 3:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

 

I'm running Windows 10 on older machines--2012 older anyway--and it works just fine. I haven't had one single problem since upgrading in February, 2017.

 

On 11/8/2018 2:05 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,

 

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

 

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

 

Using the latest JAWS.

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

 

 

 

 
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