FM Key and Jaws
Pastor Gil Pries <revgil@...>
HI, I got a new keyboard and it has a FM key. What does it do?
Thanks,
Pastor Gil
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That depends on the keyboard and how it is configured. I bought a Logitech K780 which out of the box required you to press the FN key if you wanted to use a function key when using the keyboard with a Windows PC. If you pressed a function key without the FN key it would do system functions like increase or decrease screen brightness, turn the TouchPad on or off, raise or lower the volume, mute the sound etc. For example, in Office applications F12 opens the older style Save As dialogue or in Jaws the Jaws key+F11 speaks the time, Jaws Key+F7 brings up a list of links on a webpage. So, if I wanted F12 I had to press FN+F12, if I wanted Jaws to speak the time I had to press FN+Jaws Key+F11 etc. Now, try pressing the Jaws Key (Insert on the Numpad) and FN all the way across on the left and then F7 to bring up a list of links, maybe if your fingers are a foot long you can do it. I had to download the Logitech Options application which allows me to check a little checkbox which changed this so that when I use the keyboard for Windows the Function Keys just do what they should do without having to press FN. Now if I want to press F1, F2 or F3 which are the keys which switch the keyboard to my iPhone (F2) or Apple TV (F3) or if I want to lower or increase the volume which is done with F11 and F12 I have to press the FN key, but since I don't do this as often I don't mind and if I press F2 (when I use the keyboard for my PC I have to press FN+F2) to switch to my iPhone then once it has switched I don't need to press the FN key anymore since the keyboard is smart enough to know when it is connected to a PC or to an iPhone or something else.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 9:51 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: FM Key and Jaws
HI, I got a new keyboard and it has a FM key. What does it do?
Thanks,
Pastor Gil
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Pastor Gil Pries <revgil@...>
The function keys work by themselves. So it must work for something else.
Thanks for reply.
Pastor Gil
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 10:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: FM Key and Jaws
That depends on the keyboard and how it is configured. I bought a Logitech K780 which out of the box required you to press the FN key if you wanted to use a function key when using the keyboard with a Windows PC. If you pressed a function key without the FN key it would do system functions like increase or decrease screen brightness, turn the TouchPad on or off, raise or lower the volume, mute the sound etc. For example, in Office applications F12 opens the older style Save As dialogue or in Jaws the Jaws key+F11 speaks the time, Jaws Key+F7 brings up a list of links on a webpage. So, if I wanted F12 I had to press FN+F12, if I wanted Jaws to speak the time I had to press FN+Jaws Key+F11 etc. Now, try pressing the Jaws Key (Insert on the Numpad) and FN all the way across on the left and then F7 to bring up a list of links, maybe if your fingers are a foot long you can do it. I had to download the Logitech Options application which allows me to check a little checkbox which changed this so that when I use the keyboard for Windows the Function Keys just do what they should do without having to press FN. Now if I want to press F1, F2 or F3 which are the keys which switch the keyboard to my iPhone (F2) or Apple TV (F3) or if I want to lower or increase the volume which is done with F11 and F12 I have to press the FN key, but since I don't do this as often I don't mind and if I press F2 (when I use the keyboard for my PC I have to press FN+F2) to switch to my iPhone then once it has switched I don't need to press the FN key anymore since the keyboard is smart enough to know when it is connected to a PC or to an iPhone or something else.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries
HI, I got a new keyboard and it has a FM key. What does it do?
Thanks,
Pastor Gil
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Michael Munn
If you want to press the f numbers you have to press the fn key.
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For example: in laptop you want to press Jaws key with f4 key to quit Jaws you press the Jaws key in conjunction with the fn key and f4 to quit Jaws.
On Nov 3, 2018, at 7:28 AM, Pastor Gil Pries <revgil@...> wrote:
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Which I hate and which is why I changed it on my Logitech K780 keyboard so that the F Keys work by themselves as expected. My Asus laptop fortunately had the regular F Key functions without having to do anything, but I have yet to see a laptop where this can't be changed, you may need sighted help for it as in some cases it may be something in the BIOS, you would have to find out from the manual of your laptop how it's done.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Michael Munn
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 5:48 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: FM Key and Jaws
If you want to press the f numbers you have to press the fn key. For example: in laptop you want to press Jaws key with f4 key to quit Jaws you press the Jaws key in conjunction with the fn key and f4 to quit Jaws.
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As I said, if the F Keys work as expected then pressing FN along with various Function keys will probably do things like mute, turning volume up or down, maybe change brightness etc. If you maybe provided the brand and model of your keyboard others who have the same keyboard could give you a more relevant answer. Essentially you can think of the FN key like a sort of shift or modifier key, it is typically used with the function keys and it causes a function key to perform a function different from that which it does when pressed by itself.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 4:29 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: FM Key and Jaws
The function keys work by themselves. So it must work for something else.
Thanks for reply.
Pastor Gil
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
That depends on the keyboard and how it is configured. I bought a Logitech K780 which out of the box required you to press the FN key if you wanted to use a function key when using the keyboard with a Windows PC. If you pressed a function key without the FN key it would do system functions like increase or decrease screen brightness, turn the TouchPad on or off, raise or lower the volume, mute the sound etc. For example, in Office applications F12 opens the older style Save As dialogue or in Jaws the Jaws key+F11 speaks the time, Jaws Key+F7 brings up a list of links on a webpage. So, if I wanted F12 I had to press FN+F12, if I wanted Jaws to speak the time I had to press FN+Jaws Key+F11 etc. Now, try pressing the Jaws Key (Insert on the Numpad) and FN all the way across on the left and then F7 to bring up a list of links, maybe if your fingers are a foot long you can do it. I had to download the Logitech Options application which allows me to check a little checkbox which changed this so that when I use the keyboard for Windows the Function Keys just do what they should do without having to press FN. Now if I want to press F1, F2 or F3 which are the keys which switch the keyboard to my iPhone (F2) or Apple TV (F3) or if I want to lower or increase the volume which is done with F11 and F12 I have to press the FN key, but since I don't do this as often I don't mind and if I press F2 (when I use the keyboard for my PC I have to press FN+F2) to switch to my iPhone then once it has switched I don't need to press the FN key anymore since the keyboard is smart enough to know when it is connected to a PC or to an iPhone or something else.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries
HI, I got a new keyboard and it has a FM key. What does it do?
Thanks,
Pastor Gil
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Pastor Gil Pries <revgil@...>
I have a desk top computer.
Pastor Gil
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 8:16 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: FM Key and Jaws
Which I hate and which is why I changed it on my Logitech K780 keyboard so that the F Keys work by themselves as expected. My Asus laptop fortunately had the regular F Key functions without having to do anything, but I have yet to see a laptop where this can't be changed, you may need sighted help for it as in some cases it may be something in the BIOS, you would have to find out from the manual of your laptop how it's done.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
If you want to press the f numbers you have to press the fn key. For example: in laptop you want to press Jaws key with f4 key to quit Jaws you press the Jaws key in conjunction with the fn key and f4 to quit Jaws.
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Pastor Gil Pries <revgil@...>
It’s a Logictech wireless keyboard.
Pastor Gil
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 8:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: FM Key and Jaws
As I said, if the F Keys work as expected then pressing FN along with various Function keys will probably do things like mute, turning volume up or down, maybe change brightness etc. If you maybe provided the brand and model of your keyboard others who have the same keyboard could give you a more relevant answer. Essentially you can think of the FN key like a sort of shift or modifier key, it is typically used with the function keys and it causes a function key to perform a function different from that which it does when pressed by itself.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries
The function keys work by themselves. So it must work for something else.
Thanks for reply.
Pastor Gil
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
That depends on the keyboard and how it is configured. I bought a Logitech K780 which out of the box required you to press the FN key if you wanted to use a function key when using the keyboard with a Windows PC. If you pressed a function key without the FN key it would do system functions like increase or decrease screen brightness, turn the TouchPad on or off, raise or lower the volume, mute the sound etc. For example, in Office applications F12 opens the older style Save As dialogue or in Jaws the Jaws key+F11 speaks the time, Jaws Key+F7 brings up a list of links on a webpage. So, if I wanted F12 I had to press FN+F12, if I wanted Jaws to speak the time I had to press FN+Jaws Key+F11 etc. Now, try pressing the Jaws Key (Insert on the Numpad) and FN all the way across on the left and then F7 to bring up a list of links, maybe if your fingers are a foot long you can do it. I had to download the Logitech Options application which allows me to check a little checkbox which changed this so that when I use the keyboard for Windows the Function Keys just do what they should do without having to press FN. Now if I want to press F1, F2 or F3 which are the keys which switch the keyboard to my iPhone (F2) or Apple TV (F3) or if I want to lower or increase the volume which is done with F11 and F12 I have to press the FN key, but since I don't do this as often I don't mind and if I press F2 (when I use the keyboard for my PC I have to press FN+F2) to switch to my iPhone then once it has switched I don't need to press the FN key anymore since the keyboard is smart enough to know when it is connected to a PC or to an iPhone or something else.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries
HI, I got a new keyboard and it has a FM key. What does it do?
Thanks,
Pastor Gil
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Which one, they make so many.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 8:52 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: FM Key and Jaws
It’s a Logictech wireless keyboard.
Pastor Gil
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
As I said, if the F Keys work as expected then pressing FN along with various Function keys will probably do things like mute, turning volume up or down, maybe change brightness etc. If you maybe provided the brand and model of your keyboard others who have the same keyboard could give you a more relevant answer. Essentially you can think of the FN key like a sort of shift or modifier key, it is typically used with the function keys and it causes a function key to perform a function different from that which it does when pressed by itself.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries
The function keys work by themselves. So it must work for something else.
Thanks for reply.
Pastor Gil
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
That depends on the keyboard and how it is configured. I bought a Logitech K780 which out of the box required you to press the FN key if you wanted to use a function key when using the keyboard with a Windows PC. If you pressed a function key without the FN key it would do system functions like increase or decrease screen brightness, turn the TouchPad on or off, raise or lower the volume, mute the sound etc. For example, in Office applications F12 opens the older style Save As dialogue or in Jaws the Jaws key+F11 speaks the time, Jaws Key+F7 brings up a list of links on a webpage. So, if I wanted F12 I had to press FN+F12, if I wanted Jaws to speak the time I had to press FN+Jaws Key+F11 etc. Now, try pressing the Jaws Key (Insert on the Numpad) and FN all the way across on the left and then F7 to bring up a list of links, maybe if your fingers are a foot long you can do it. I had to download the Logitech Options application which allows me to check a little checkbox which changed this so that when I use the keyboard for Windows the Function Keys just do what they should do without having to press FN. Now if I want to press F1, F2 or F3 which are the keys which switch the keyboard to my iPhone (F2) or Apple TV (F3) or if I want to lower or increase the volume which is done with F11 and F12 I have to press the FN key, but since I don't do this as often I don't mind and if I press F2 (when I use the keyboard for my PC I have to press FN+F2) to switch to my iPhone then once it has switched I don't need to press the FN key anymore since the keyboard is smart enough to know when it is connected to a PC or to an iPhone or something else.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries
HI, I got a new keyboard and it has a FM key. What does it do?
Thanks,
Pastor Gil
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The Logitech K360 allows you to program custom hotkeys for the Function Key row, and if you do so you must use the Fn key plus the corresponding function key to make that custom hotkey execute.
The main support page for this keyboard is: https://support.logitech.com/en_us/product/keyboard-k360 Going to the Downloads page for the K360 shows there's a specific program you use with the keyboard to program it called, SetPoint. This program is also mentioned in the Quick Start Guide, which documents the pre-programmed functions for the enhanced F-keys, listing what Fn+ with each F-Key does. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 If you remove all the homosexuals and homosexual influences from what is generally regarded as American culture, you are pretty much left with Let's Make a Deal. ~ Fran Lebowitz
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Val Paul
Hi! I have an acer laptop which came with the function keys working as normal. The last laptop i had a lenova I had to get someone to go into the bio's to fix it that the function keys behaved as normal. You've got to get sighted help for this.
Val.
On 03/11/2018 15:50, Pastor Gil Pries
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Pastor Gil Pries <revgil@...>
Thank you very much for the information.
Pastor Gil
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
The Logitech K360 allows you to program custom hotkeys for the Function Key row, and if you do so you must use the Fn key plus the corresponding function key to make that custom hotkey execute. Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 If you remove all the homosexuals and homosexual influences from what is generally regarded as American culture, you are pretty much left with Let's Make a Deal. ~ Fran Lebowitz
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