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How to make jaws read number of items


Steve Nutt
 

Even Insert+Tab doesn’t read numbers for me.

 

Insert+3 on the numpad does but it is wildly inaccurate.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: 21 November 2018 01:58
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

 

The only method that I've found to get JAWS to speak the number of items in a list is either to read the current line (insert-up arrow) or to press insert-tab.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 11/20/2018 10:45 AM, Cook, Steve wrote:

JAWS key plus 3 on the numpad
 
Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Phone: (803) 898-8788
Fax: (803) 898-8882
E-Mail: steve.cook@...
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items
 
Eh?  JAWS Key + 3 is bypass.  How will that help?
 
All the best
 
Steve
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: 02 November 2018 15:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items
 
Try jaws key plus 3
 
Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Phone: (803) 898-8788
Fax: (803) 898-8882
E-Mail: steve.cook@...
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items
 
I also have this situation.  It appears that somehow a maximum of 13 is the count in any Folder where I have many additional files.
 
If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in 13.  And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.
 
Thanks.
 
On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many of 
how many.
 
I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a 
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in 
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how 
many items there afterwards
 
Thanks
 
Jim
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Steve Nutt
 

It's not accurate though. We need a proper index count from the DOM. I'm sure it could be scripted, but I don't have time to do it at this point.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: 20 November 2018 15:46
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

JAWS key plus 3 on the numpad

Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Phone: (803) 898-8788
Fax: (803) 898-8882
E-Mail: steve.cook@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Eh? JAWS Key + 3 is bypass. How will that help?

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: 02 November 2018 15:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Try jaws key plus 3

Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Phone: (803) 898-8788
Fax: (803) 898-8882
E-Mail: steve.cook@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13 is the count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in 13. And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many of
how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim






--
HAVE A MAGNIFICENT DAY

GEORGE BURRELL GRAY

Ocean Winds
Cabarete/Sosua
REPUBLICA DOMINICANA


Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

No numbers are read for me with Insert+Up Arrow.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: 20 November 2018 15:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I don't know yet how to make JAWS read the item counts automatically. Using 2019, with Details view as my choice, I can use insert+up arrow or insert+tab to get the information, and it is accurate. It might be interesting to try to analyze which settings on the View tab of the ribbon are different if you can't do this with those keystrokes.


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Eh? JAWS Key + 3 is bypass. How will that help?

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: 02 November 2018 15:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Try jaws key plus 3

Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Phone: (803) 898-8788
Fax: (803) 898-8882
E-Mail: steve.cook@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13 is the count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in 13. And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many of
how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim






--
HAVE A MAGNIFICENT DAY

GEORGE BURRELL GRAY

Ocean Winds
Cabarete/Sosua
REPUBLICA DOMINICANA


David Goldfield
 

The only method that I've found to get JAWS to speak the number of items in a list is either to read the current line (insert-up arrow) or to press insert-tab.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 11/20/2018 10:45 AM, Cook, Steve wrote:
JAWS key plus 3 on the numpad

Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Phone: (803) 898-8788
Fax: (803) 898-8882
E-Mail: steve.cook@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Eh?  JAWS Key + 3 is bypass.  How will that help?

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: 02 November 2018 15:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Try jaws key plus 3

Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Phone: (803) 898-8788
Fax: (803) 898-8882
E-Mail: steve.cook@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I also have this situation.  It appears that somehow a maximum of 13 is the count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in 13.  And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many of 
how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a 
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in 
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how 
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim








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HAVE A MAGNIFICENT DAY

GEORGE BURRELL GRAY

Ocean Winds
Cabarete/Sosua
REPUBLICA DOMINICANA















Bill White
 

He meant JAWS key plus three on the NumPad, not JAWS key plus three on the numbers row.

JAWS Key plus three on the NumPad reacts differently. It is like PageDown, it is not bypass.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Eh? JAWS Key + 3 is bypass. How will that help?

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: 02 November 2018 15:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Try jaws key plus 3

Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Phone: (803) 898-8788
Fax: (803) 898-8882
E-Mail: steve.cook@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13 is the count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in 13. And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many of
how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim






--
HAVE A MAGNIFICENT DAY

GEORGE BURRELL GRAY

Ocean Winds
Cabarete/Sosua
REPUBLICA DOMINICANA


Cook, Steve
 

JAWS key plus 3 on the numpad

Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Phone: (803) 898-8788
Fax: (803) 898-8882
E-Mail: steve.cook@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Eh? JAWS Key + 3 is bypass. How will that help?

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: 02 November 2018 15:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Try jaws key plus 3

Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Phone: (803) 898-8788
Fax: (803) 898-8882
E-Mail: steve.cook@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13 is the count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in 13. And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many of
how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim






--
HAVE A MAGNIFICENT DAY

GEORGE BURRELL GRAY

Ocean Winds
Cabarete/Sosua
REPUBLICA DOMINICANA


Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

I don't know yet how to make JAWS read the item counts automatically. Using 2019, with Details view as my choice, I can use insert+up arrow or insert+tab to get the information, and it is accurate. It might be interesting to try to analyze which settings on the View tab of the ribbon are different if you can't do this with those keystrokes.


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Eh? JAWS Key + 3 is bypass. How will that help?

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: 02 November 2018 15:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Try jaws key plus 3

Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Phone: (803) 898-8788
Fax: (803) 898-8882
E-Mail: steve.cook@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13 is the count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in 13. And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many of
how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim






--
HAVE A MAGNIFICENT DAY

GEORGE BURRELL GRAY

Ocean Winds
Cabarete/Sosua
REPUBLICA DOMINICANA


Jeff Christiansen
 

Use, insert numPad 8

Hth

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Eh? JAWS Key + 3 is bypass. How will that help?

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: 02 November 2018 15:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Try jaws key plus 3

Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Phone: (803) 898-8788
Fax: (803) 898-8882
E-Mail: steve.cook@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13 is the
count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in 13.
And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many of
how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim






--
HAVE A MAGNIFICENT DAY

GEORGE BURRELL GRAY

Ocean Winds
Cabarete/Sosua
REPUBLICA DOMINICANA


Steve Nutt
 

Eh? JAWS Key + 3 is bypass. How will that help?

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: 02 November 2018 15:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Try jaws key plus 3

Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Phone: (803) 898-8788
Fax: (803) 898-8882
E-Mail: steve.cook@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13 is the count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in 13. And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many of
how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim






--
HAVE A MAGNIFICENT DAY

GEORGE BURRELL GRAY

Ocean Winds
Cabarete/Sosua
REPUBLICA DOMINICANA


Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

Hi Bill,

Shift tab in Outlook 2013, on my system anyway, gives me the number of unread messages which is quite useful.

Insert tab gives more info like number in the list, i.e. 11 of 25, but with more verbage.

The first method gives less info but it punishes my ears less.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Sunday, 4 November 2018 2:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Hi, Tom. Do you mean SHIFT TAB or do you mean INSERT TAB? SHIFT just backs up one window in Outlook. For instance, if I am in the folder list, SHIFT TAB just backs up to the submit search button.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 7:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Sieghard,

Conversations in my Outlook 2013 are turned off and all seems to work as they should except when there are more than 23 messages in the list.

Anyway, it is not a big deal and does not cause me any grief because shift tab gives the correct number.

Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 4 November 2018 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Hi Tom,

It also depends whether you have conversations turned on in Outlook, I find that this does make it more difficult for Jaws to give an exact message count as in 3 of 46 or whatever.
For example, just now in the email account I use for my list traffic when I press Jaws Key+NumPad 3 it says "Items in view 7, unread items 3", but when I arrow up and down and count there are 6 items and some of them are conversations which if I expand them have more than one message.
Also, if I press Home to go to the top on my Inbox and then up arrow once Jaws reads the following item which seems to be counted as 1 item when Jaws reports 7 items in the status bar:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Today Expanded, 1 of 6

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 5:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Richard,
Under Outlook 2013 and Jaws 2019, the commands you mentioned give different results on my system.

Pressing insert numpad 3 mentions something about filters which I don't understand.
Pressing insert numpad 8 or insert tab gives me 23 of 23 messages while currently there are 28. Once the number gets to under 23 messages, the readout is correct.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, 4 November 2018 12:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

George, Did you say you are using Jaws 2018?
In my 2018, jaws-key, which is really the insert key, plus numpad 3, gives me just the total number of items in that folder. While, insert plus numpad 8, or the tab key give me the item number and the total number of items.
It is the same in 2019. I just checked with both versions. So, that must be a settings issue somewhere, but I really don't know where that setting might be.

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

All that does is tell me the number of Item and that 1 is selected.
It does not tell me which number the Item is of how many there are...thanks.

On 11/3/18, Mike B. <mike9902@...> wrote:
Hi George,

Will Jaws key + 3 / Page Down, on the numpad work for you?
Take care. Mike. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: George Gray
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 4:45 AM
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items


Nope! Not for me in JAWS 2018...

On 11/2/18, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:
For me both Jaws Key+Tab as well as a simple say line, Jaws
Key+NumPad 8, reads the file name, date, file type and whether it's
27 of 52 or whatever.
It does not read it when you simply arrow down or up through the
list of files.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I went to my "my documents" folder and pressed insert+tab and this is
what

I
heard:
Not Selected 2016Low-Vision Expo images‎8/‎22/‎2018 ‏‎5:29 AM File
folder

1
of 885

Jaws 2019, Windows 10

But, Window-Eyes would have read the index number automatically.

Richard


“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George
Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13
is the count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in 13.
And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many
of how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim






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Bill White
 

Hi, Tom. Do you mean SHIFT TAB or do you mean INSERT TAB? SHIFT just backs up one window in Outlook. For instance, if I am in the folder list, SHIFT TAB just backs up to the submit search button.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 7:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Sieghard,

Conversations in my Outlook 2013 are turned off and all seems to work as they should except when there are more than 23 messages in the list.

Anyway, it is not a big deal and does not cause me any grief because shift tab gives the correct number.

Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 4 November 2018 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Hi Tom,

It also depends whether you have conversations turned on in Outlook, I find that this does make it more difficult for Jaws to give an exact message count as in 3 of 46 or whatever.
For example, just now in the email account I use for my list traffic when I press Jaws Key+NumPad 3 it says "Items in view 7, unread items 3", but when I arrow up and down and count there are 6 items and some of them are conversations which if I expand them have more than one message.
Also, if I press Home to go to the top on my Inbox and then up arrow once Jaws reads the following item which seems to be counted as 1 item when Jaws reports 7 items in the status bar:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Today Expanded, 1 of 6

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 5:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Richard,
Under Outlook 2013 and Jaws 2019, the commands you mentioned give different results on my system.

Pressing insert numpad 3 mentions something about filters which I don't understand.
Pressing insert numpad 8 or insert tab gives me 23 of 23 messages while currently there are 28. Once the number gets to under 23 messages, the readout is correct.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, 4 November 2018 12:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

George, Did you say you are using Jaws 2018?
In my 2018, jaws-key, which is really the insert key, plus numpad 3, gives me just the total number of items in that folder. While, insert plus numpad 8, or the tab key give me the item number and the total number of items.
It is the same in 2019. I just checked with both versions. So, that must be a settings issue somewhere, but I really don't know where that setting might be.

Richard



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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

All that does is tell me the number of Item and that 1 is selected.
It does not tell me which number the Item is of how many there are...thanks.

On 11/3/18, Mike B. <mike9902@...> wrote:
Hi George,

Will Jaws key + 3 / Page Down, on the numpad work for you?
Take care. Mike. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: George Gray
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 4:45 AM
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items


Nope! Not for me in JAWS 2018...

On 11/2/18, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:
For me both Jaws Key+Tab as well as a simple say line, Jaws
Key+NumPad 8, reads the file name, date, file type and whether it's
27 of 52 or whatever.
It does not read it when you simply arrow down or up through the
list of files.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I went to my "my documents" folder and pressed insert+tab and this is
what

I
heard:
Not Selected 2016Low-Vision Expo images‎8/‎22/‎2018 ‏‎5:29 AM File
folder

1
of 885

Jaws 2019, Windows 10

But, Window-Eyes would have read the index number automatically.

Richard


“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George
Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13
is the count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in 13.
And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many
of how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim






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James Lockwood <lockwoodnd@...>
 

Yes I have my windows maximized and detailed view on. It still doesn’t do it. If I hit shift tab then shift tab again that takes the cursor to the QuickView folder list then back to the actual folder I am in then it will count the number of items. Otherwise it did not do it automatically.

On Nov 3, 2018, at 12:44 PM, netbat66 <netbat66@...> wrote:

i don't know when this happened. grin.
but if i change the file view to the detailed view i get the index numbers i guess you call it.
if i right arrow once then arrow down it will announce the item number like 1 of 100 as i arrow down the list. but it is the last thing announced.
i looked in the speech verbocity and beginner options and announce item numbers was already checked. so i did not make any changes there.

-----Original Message----- From: George Gray
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 4:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Nope! Not for me in JAWS 2018...

On 11/2/18, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:
For me both Jaws Key+Tab as well as a simple say line, Jaws Key+NumPad 8,
reads the file name, date, file type and whether it's 27 of 52 or whatever.
It does not read it when you simply arrow down or up through the list of
files.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I went to my "my documents" folder and pressed insert+tab and this is what I
heard:
Not Selected 2016Low-Vision Expo images‎8/‎22/‎2018 ‏‎5:29 AM File folder 1
of 885

Jaws 2019, Windows 10

But, Window-Eyes would have read the index number automatically.

Richard


“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13 is the
count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in 13.
And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many of
how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim






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Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

Sieghard,

Conversations in my Outlook 2013 are turned off and all seems to work as they should except when there are more than 23 messages in the list.

Anyway, it is not a big deal and does not cause me any grief because shift tab gives the correct number.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 4 November 2018 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Hi Tom,

It also depends whether you have conversations turned on in Outlook, I find that this does make it more difficult for Jaws to give an exact message count as in 3 of 46 or whatever.
For example, just now in the email account I use for my list traffic when I press Jaws Key+NumPad 3 it says "Items in view 7, unread items 3", but when I arrow up and down and count there are 6 items and some of them are conversations which if I expand them have more than one message.
Also, if I press Home to go to the top on my Inbox and then up arrow once Jaws reads the following item which seems to be counted as 1 item when Jaws reports 7 items in the status bar:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Today Expanded, 1 of 6

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 5:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Richard,
Under Outlook 2013 and Jaws 2019, the commands you mentioned give different results on my system.

Pressing insert numpad 3 mentions something about filters which I don't understand.
Pressing insert numpad 8 or insert tab gives me 23 of 23 messages while currently there are 28. Once the number gets to under 23 messages, the readout is correct.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, 4 November 2018 12:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

George, Did you say you are using Jaws 2018?
In my 2018, jaws-key, which is really the insert key, plus numpad 3, gives me just the total number of items in that folder. While, insert plus numpad 8, or the tab key give me the item number and the total number of items.
It is the same in 2019. I just checked with both versions. So, that must be a settings issue somewhere, but I really don't know where that setting might be.

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

All that does is tell me the number of Item and that 1 is selected.
It does not tell me which number the Item is of how many there are...thanks.

On 11/3/18, Mike B. <mike9902@...> wrote:
Hi George,

Will Jaws key + 3 / Page Down, on the numpad work for you?
Take care. Mike. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: George Gray
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 4:45 AM
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items


Nope! Not for me in JAWS 2018...

On 11/2/18, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:
For me both Jaws Key+Tab as well as a simple say line, Jaws
Key+NumPad 8, reads the file name, date, file type and whether it's
27 of 52 or whatever.
It does not read it when you simply arrow down or up through the
list of files.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I went to my "my documents" folder and pressed insert+tab and this is
what

I
heard:
Not Selected 2016Low-Vision Expo images‎8/‎22/‎2018 ‏‎5:29 AM File
folder

1
of 885

Jaws 2019, Windows 10

But, Window-Eyes would have read the index number automatically.

Richard


“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George
Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13
is the count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in 13.
And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many
of how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim






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Hi Tom,

It also depends whether you have conversations turned on in Outlook, I find that this does make it more difficult for Jaws to give an exact message count as in 3 of 46 or whatever.
For example, just now in the email account I use for my list traffic when I press Jaws Key+NumPad 3 it says "Items in view 7, unread items 3", but when I arrow up and down and count there are 6 items and some of them are conversations which if I expand them have more than one message.
Also, if I press Home to go to the top on my Inbox and then up arrow once Jaws reads the following item which seems to be counted as 1 item when Jaws reports 7 items in the status bar:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Today Expanded, 1 of 6

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 5:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Richard,
Under Outlook 2013 and Jaws 2019, the commands you mentioned give different results on my system.

Pressing insert numpad 3 mentions something about filters which I don't understand.
Pressing insert numpad 8 or insert tab gives me 23 of 23 messages while currently there are 28. Once the number gets to under 23 messages, the readout is correct.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, 4 November 2018 12:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

George, Did you say you are using Jaws 2018?
In my 2018, jaws-key, which is really the insert key, plus numpad 3, gives me just the total number of items in that folder. While, insert plus numpad 8, or the tab key give me the item number and the total number of items.
It is the same in 2019. I just checked with both versions. So, that must be a settings issue somewhere, but I really don't know where that setting might be.

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

All that does is tell me the number of Item and that 1 is selected.
It does not tell me which number the Item is of how many there are...thanks.

On 11/3/18, Mike B. <mike9902@...> wrote:
Hi George,

Will Jaws key + 3 / Page Down, on the numpad work for you?
Take care. Mike. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: George Gray
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 4:45 AM
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items


Nope! Not for me in JAWS 2018...

On 11/2/18, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:
For me both Jaws Key+Tab as well as a simple say line, Jaws
Key+NumPad 8, reads the file name, date, file type and whether it's
27 of 52 or whatever.
It does not read it when you simply arrow down or up through the
list of files.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I went to my "my documents" folder and pressed insert+tab and this is
what

I
heard:
Not Selected 2016Low-Vision Expo images‎8/‎22/‎2018 ‏‎5:29 AM File
folder

1
of 885

Jaws 2019, Windows 10

But, Window-Eyes would have read the index number automatically.

Richard


“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George
Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13
is the count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in 13.
And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many
of how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim






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Richard Turner
 

Tom,
I thought the original question was about files in folders as in Windows Explorer.
IN Outlook 2016 for me, insert+numpad3 gives me the total number of items in view, how many are unread etc.
I don't trust the accuracy as I'm not sure Outlook is really providing that info correctly, but I don't know.
Frankly, if I want to know how many items are in my inbox, I will check on my iPhone, where it is rather easy.

HTH,
Richard



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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 5:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Richard,
Under Outlook 2013 and Jaws 2019, the commands you mentioned give different results on my system.

Pressing insert numpad 3 mentions something about filters which I don't understand.
Pressing insert numpad 8 or insert tab gives me 23 of 23 messages while currently there are 28. Once the number gets to under 23 messages, the readout is correct.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, 4 November 2018 12:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

George, Did you say you are using Jaws 2018?
In my 2018, jaws-key, which is really the insert key, plus numpad 3, gives me just the total number of items in that folder. While, insert plus numpad 8, or the tab key give me the item number and the total number of items.
It is the same in 2019. I just checked with both versions. So, that must be a settings issue somewhere, but I really don't know where that setting might be.

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

All that does is tell me the number of Item and that 1 is selected.
It does not tell me which number the Item is of how many there are...thanks.

On 11/3/18, Mike B. <mike9902@...> wrote:
Hi George,

Will Jaws key + 3 / Page Down, on the numpad work for you?
Take care. Mike. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: George Gray
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 4:45 AM
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items


Nope! Not for me in JAWS 2018...

On 11/2/18, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:
For me both Jaws Key+Tab as well as a simple say line, Jaws
Key+NumPad 8, reads the file name, date, file type and whether it's
27 of 52 or whatever.
It does not read it when you simply arrow down or up through the
list of files.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I went to my "my documents" folder and pressed insert+tab and this is
what

I
heard:
Not Selected 2016Low-Vision Expo images‎8/‎22/‎2018 ‏‎5:29 AM File
folder

1
of 885

Jaws 2019, Windows 10

But, Window-Eyes would have read the index number automatically.

Richard


“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George
Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13
is the count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in 13.
And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many
of how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim






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Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

Richard,
Under Outlook 2013 and Jaws 2019, the commands you mentioned give different results on my system.

Pressing insert numpad 3 mentions something about filters which I don't understand.
Pressing insert numpad 8 or insert tab gives me 23 of 23 messages while currently there are 28. Once the number gets to under 23 messages, the readout is correct.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, 4 November 2018 12:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

George, Did you say you are using Jaws 2018?
In my 2018, jaws-key, which is really the insert key, plus numpad 3, gives me just the total number of items in that folder. While, insert plus numpad 8, or the tab key give me the item number and the total number of items.
It is the same in 2019. I just checked with both versions. So, that must be a settings issue somewhere, but I really don't know where that setting might be.

Richard



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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

All that does is tell me the number of Item and that 1 is selected.
It does not tell me which number the Item is of how many there are...thanks.

On 11/3/18, Mike B. <mike9902@...> wrote:
Hi George,

Will Jaws key + 3 / Page Down, on the numpad work for you?
Take care. Mike. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
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the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: George Gray
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 4:45 AM
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items


Nope! Not for me in JAWS 2018...

On 11/2/18, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:
For me both Jaws Key+Tab as well as a simple say line, Jaws
Key+NumPad 8, reads the file name, date, file type and whether it's
27 of 52 or whatever.
It does not read it when you simply arrow down or up through the
list of files.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I went to my "my documents" folder and pressed insert+tab and this is
what

I
heard:
Not Selected 2016Low-Vision Expo images‎8/‎22/‎2018 ‏‎5:29 AM File
folder

1
of 885

Jaws 2019, Windows 10

But, Window-Eyes would have read the index number automatically.

Richard


“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George
Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13
is the count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in 13.
And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many
of how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim






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Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

Hi Sieghard,

While using Outlook 2013 under Jaws 2018 and now 2019,Jaws will read out the correct number of emails in the list by pressing shift tab but not so with insert numpad 8. Pressing insert 8gives the correct reading if the number of emails is 23 or less. However, if the number of emails is greater than 23, pressing this key combination gives 23 of 23.

I am wondering if this is peculiar to Outlook 2013 or does version 2016 suffer from the same error.
Cheers
Tom

On 11/2/18, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:
For me both Jaws Key+Tab as well as a simple say line, Jaws Key+NumPad 8,
reads the file name, date, file type and whether it's 27 of 52 or whatever.
It does not read it when you simply arrow down or up through the list of
files.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I went to my "my documents" folder and pressed insert+tab and this is what I
heard:
Not Selected 2016Low-Vision Expo images‎8/‎22/‎2018 ‏‎5:29 AM File folder 1
of 885

Jaws 2019, Windows 10

But, Window-Eyes would have read the index number automatically.

Richard


“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13 is the
count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in 13.
And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many of
how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim






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George Gray
 

And, the winner is? Maximizing The Window!!! Duh! Thanks..:)

On 11/3/18, netbat66 <netbat66@...> wrote:
i don't know when this happened. grin.
but if i change the file view to the detailed view i get the index numbers i

guess you call it.
if i right arrow once then arrow down it will announce the item number like
1
of 100 as i arrow down the list. but it is the last thing announced.
i looked in the speech verbocity and beginner options and announce item
numbers was already checked. so i did not make any changes there.

-----Original Message-----
From: George Gray
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 4:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Nope! Not for me in JAWS 2018...

On 11/2/18, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:
For me both Jaws Key+Tab as well as a simple say line, Jaws Key+NumPad 8,
reads the file name, date, file type and whether it's 27 of 52 or
whatever.
It does not read it when you simply arrow down or up through the list of
files.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I went to my "my documents" folder and pressed insert+tab and this is what
I
heard:
Not Selected 2016Low-Vision Expo images‎8/‎22/‎2018 ‏‎5:29 AM File folder
1
of 885

Jaws 2019, Windows 10

But, Window-Eyes would have read the index number automatically.

Richard


“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13 is
the
count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in 13.
And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many of
how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim






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netbat66
 

i don't know when this happened. grin.
but if i change the file view to the detailed view i get the index numbers i guess you call it.
if i right arrow once then arrow down it will announce the item number like 1 of 100 as i arrow down the list. but it is the last thing announced.
i looked in the speech verbocity and beginner options and announce item numbers was already checked. so i did not make any changes there.

-----Original Message-----
From: George Gray
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 4:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Nope! Not for me in JAWS 2018...

On 11/2/18, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:
For me both Jaws Key+Tab as well as a simple say line, Jaws Key+NumPad 8,
reads the file name, date, file type and whether it's 27 of 52 or whatever.
It does not read it when you simply arrow down or up through the list of
files.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I went to my "my documents" folder and pressed insert+tab and this is what I
heard:
Not Selected 2016Low-Vision Expo images‎8/‎22/‎2018 ‏‎5:29 AM File folder 1
of 885

Jaws 2019, Windows 10

But, Window-Eyes would have read the index number automatically.

Richard


“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13 is the
count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in 13.
And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many of
how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim






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You should see if maximizing the Window makes a difference.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 8:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

Enter + 3 gives me the same as yours, but Enter + 8 still only gives
me the file number out of 13 when I know there are 120 files in the
Folder.

Yes, it is probably a Setting somewhere, but I have no idea as to
where to find it and have been hoping that one of the folks may know
the answer.

Thanks.

On 11/3/18, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:
I’m not at my computer right now, but going off of memory, I believe this is
a setting you can tweak in the verbosity settings of Jawss. There is
beginner, intermediate and advanced… Im each one, there are a series of
checkboxes you can check or uncheck depending on the behavior you wish.

On Nov 3, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
wrote:

George, Did you say you are using Jaws 2018?
In my 2018, jaws-key, which is really the insert key, plus numpad 3, gives
me just the total number of items in that folder. While, insert plus
numpad 8, or the tab key give me the item number and the total number of
items.
It is the same in 2019. I just checked with both versions. So, that must
be a settings issue somewhere, but I really don't know where that setting
might be.

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Gray
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

All that does is tell me the number of Item and that 1 is selected.
It does not tell me which number the Item is of how many there
are...thanks.

On 11/3/18, Mike B. <mike9902@...> wrote:
Hi George,

Will Jaws key + 3 / Page Down, on the numpad work for you?
Take care. Mike. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: George Gray
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 4:45 AM
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items


Nope! Not for me in JAWS 2018...

On 11/2/18, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:
For me both Jaws Key+Tab as well as a simple say line, Jaws
Key+NumPad 8, reads the file name, date, file type and whether it's
27 of 52 or whatever.
It does not read it when you simply arrow down or up through the
list of files.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I went to my "my documents" folder and pressed insert+tab and this is
what

I
heard:
Not Selected 2016Low-Vision Expo images‎8/‎22/‎2018 ‏‎5:29 AM File
folder

1
of 885

Jaws 2019, Windows 10

But, Window-Eyes would have read the index number automatically.

Richard


“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George
Gray
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make jaws read number of items

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13
is the count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in
13.
And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many
of how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim






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