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Hello, everyone. I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can’t seem to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now available with the release of Jaws 2019. Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it at some point. Up until now, I’ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for $120. If there now is a more economical way to do this, I’d certainly love to learn about it. Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
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Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular screen
reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home users in the
United States. Choose between a one-, three-, or five-year
option, with the ability to easily renew your license at the end of
your initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most up-to-date
version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an upgrade to get new versions
when they release – you have access to all upgrades released during your license
term. Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available is
essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with the continuous updates
of Microsoft Windows®, Microsoft Office®, your browser, and other applications
you may use.
JAWS License Comparison
What's Next?
After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an email
with instructions and a link to register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing
Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software licenses, and
provides a simple way to install and activate your software. Your license can be
installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you can easily
remove your license from one computer and put it on a new one later.
When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same email
address you used to purchase your license; if you have already registered from
previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and sign in – your
license will be available.
JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial use
only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows operating
system. Refer
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Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM
Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Hello, everyone.
I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can’t seem
to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home license that
apparently is now available with the release of Jaws 2019.
Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need
to do something to renew it at some point.
Up until now, I’ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year
period for $120.
If there now is a more economical way to do this, I’d
certainly love to learn about it.
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
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Michael: Where did you get this info? I’m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid sentence. I’d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws home options if possible. Thanks for the help! Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Amaro Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home users in the United States. Choose between a one-, three-, or five-year option, with the ability to easily renew your license at the end of your initial term. With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an upgrade to get new versions when they release – you have access to all upgrades released during your license term. Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows®, Microsoft Office®, your browser, and other applications you may use. JAWS License Comparison What's Next? After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an email with instructions and a link to register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software licenses, and provides a simple way to install and activate your software. Your license can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer and put it on a new one later. When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same email address you used to purchase your license; if you have already registered from previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and sign in – your license will be available. JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows operating system. Refer Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Hello, everyone. I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can’t seem to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now available with the release of Jaws 2019. Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it at some point. Up until now, I’ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for $120. If there now is a more economical way to do this, I’d certainly love to learn about it. Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
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Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Michael:
Where did you get this info?
I’m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid
sentence.
I’d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws home
options if possible.
Thanks for the help!
Tom Behler
Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular screen
reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home users in the
United States. Choose
between a one-, three-, or five-year option, with the ability to
easily renew your license at the end of your initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most up-to-date
version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an upgrade to get new versions
when they release – you have access to all upgrades released during your license
term. Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available is
essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with the continuous updates
of Microsoft Windows®, Microsoft Office®, your browser, and other applications
you may use.
JAWS License
Comparison
What's
Next?
After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an email
with instructions and a link to register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing
Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software licenses, and
provides a simple way to install and activate your software. Your license can be
installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you can easily
remove your license from one computer and put it on a new one
later.
When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same email
address you used to purchase your license; if you have already registered from
previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and sign in – your
license will be available.
JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial use
only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows operating
system. Refer
Sent: Thursday, November 1,
2018 10:53 AM
Subject: Need Details On New
Annual Jaws Home Subscription
Hello, everyone.
I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can’t seem
to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home license that
apparently is now available with the release of Jaws 2019.
Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need
to do something to renew it at some point.
Up until now, I’ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year
period for $120.
If there now is a more economical way to do this, I’d
certainly love to learn about it.
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
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Thanks, Michael. It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA system. Is this correct? I do have one concern, though. $90 a year doesn’t seem to be that great of a deal, since back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I purchased the license by December 31. Am I missing something? Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Michael: Where did you get this info? I’m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid sentence. I’d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws home options if possible. Thanks for the help! Tom Behler Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home users in the United States. Choose between a one-, three-, or five-year option, with the ability to easily renew your license at the end of your initial term. With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an upgrade to get new versions when they release – you have access to all upgrades released during your license term. Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows®, Microsoft Office®, your browser, and other applications you may use. JAWS License Comparison What's Next? After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an email with instructions and a link to register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software licenses, and provides a simple way to install and activate your software. Your license can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer and put it on a new one later. When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same email address you used to purchase your license; if you have already registered from previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and sign in – your license will be available. JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows operating system. Refer Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Hello, everyone. I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can’t seem to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now available with the release of Jaws 2019. Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it at some point. Up until now, I’ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for $120. If there now is a more economical way to do this, I’d certainly love to learn about it. Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
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seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by
a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.� But
if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety dollars
a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose of this?�
Stew
On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
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Thanks, Michael.
�
It seems to me that this new system will
replace the older SMA system.
�
Is this correct?
�
I do have one concern, though.
�
$90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of
a deal, since back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120,
as long as I purchased the license by December 31.
�
�
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM
Subject: Re:
Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
Michael:
�
Where did you get this info?
�
I�m asking because the explanation seemed
to end in mid sentence.
�
I�d like to get the full explanation of the
various Jaws home options if possible.
�
Thanks for the help!
�
Tom Behler
�
�
�
Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's
most popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual
license now available for home users in the United States. Choose
between a one-, three-, or five-year option,
with the ability to easily renew your license at the end of
your initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the
most up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay
for an upgrade to get new versions when they release � you
have access to all upgrades released during your license
term. Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become
available is essential to ensure the ability to use your
computer with the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�,
Microsoft Office�, your browser, and other applications you
may use.
JAWS
License Comparison
What's
Next?
After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will
receive an email with instructions and a link to register on
the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to
access and manage your software licenses, and provides a
simple way to install and activate your software. Your
license can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and
using the portal, you can easily remove your license from
one computer and put it on a new one later.
When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use
the same email address you used to purchase your license; if
you have already registered from previous purchases, simply
select the link you receive and sign in � your license will
be available.
JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal,
non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported
versions of the Windows operating system. Refer
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM
Subject: Need
Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
Hello, everyone.
�
I have been reading bits and pieces of
info, but can�t seem to find a nice concise summary of the new
Jaws annual home license that apparently is now available with
the release of Jaws 2019.
�
Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my
SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it at some point.
�
Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA
for a two-year period for $120.
�
If there now is a more economical way to do
this, I�d certainly love to learn about it.
�
Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan
�
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It sounds like it would be a bit more flexible since you don't
have to fight with the activation as much if you use a lot of
different computers, but otherwise it looks like a way to generate
more revenue. I just renewed my SMa, they will have a little
while longer to wait for my extra revenue.
CH
On 11/1/2018 20:53, cecropia64 wrote:
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seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive
by a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a
year.� But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying
ninety dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the
purpose of this?�
Stew
On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler
wrote:
Thanks, Michael.
�
It seems to me that this new system will
replace the older SMA system.
�
Is this correct?
�
I do have one concern, though.
�
$90 a year doesn�t seem to be that
great of a deal, since back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws
for $120, as long as I purchased the license by December 31.
�
�
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM
Subject:
Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Michael:
�
Where did you get this info?
�
I�m asking because the explanation
seemed to end in mid sentence.
�
I�d like to get the full explanation of
the various Jaws home options if possible.
�
Thanks for the help!
�
Tom Behler
�
�
�
Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's
most popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual
license now available for home users in the United States.
Choose between a one-, three-, or five-year
option, with the ability to easily
renew your license at the end of your initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the
most up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay
for an upgrade to get new versions when they release �
you have access to all upgrades released during your
license term. Having access to new versions of JAWS as
they become available is essential to ensure the ability
to use your computer with the continuous updates of
Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft Office�, your browser,
and other applications you may use.
JAWS License Comparison
What's Next?
After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will
receive an email with instructions and a link to register
on the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows
you to access and manage your software licenses, and
provides a simple way to install and activate your
software. Your license can be installed on up to 3 of your
computers and using the portal, you can easily remove your
license from one computer and put it on a new one later.
When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to
use the same email address you used to purchase your
license; if you have already registered from previous
purchases, simply select the link you receive and sign in
� your license will be available.
JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal,
non-commercial use only and runs on all currently
supported versions of the Windows operating system. Refer
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM
Subject:
Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
Hello, everyone.
�
I have been reading bits and pieces of
info, but can�t seem to find a nice concise summary of the
new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now
available with the release of Jaws 2019.
�
Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my
SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it at some
point.
�
Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home
SMA for a two-year period for $120.
�
If there now is a more economical way to
do this, I�d certainly love to learn about it.
�
Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan
�
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Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
I think this is also an offer which would make it much less expensive for somebody who didn’t keep their SMA up-to-date to get current on Jaws. If, for example, somebody was still on Jaws 16 or even earlier they would
have to pay several hundreds of Dollars to get current and then another $120 for the SMA. This way they can just subscribe for $90 a year and they are done. What I haven’t figured out yet is if this also applies for new Jaws users, e.g. if you don’t have Jaws
at all, can you just pay $90 a year and download/use the latest version of Jaws and as long as you keep you rsubscription active then you can continue to do so? If so then this really is a good option for new Jaws users because instead of paying $900 or whatever
Jaws costs + the cost of future SMA’s they would djust pay $90 a year. After 10 years you would have paid $900 which is I believe what Jaws Home costs, if you had bought it for $900 and then you would buy 5 SMA’s at $120/each you would have paid $1,500 after
10 years so if you are a new Jaws user then $90 a year really is a very reasonable price and who knows what happens in 5 or 6 let alpong 8 or 10 years, maybe Jaws won’t exist any more as such, maybe Microsoft buys them out and it gets merged with Narrator
into Microsoft and becomes free, I certainly wouldn’t bet on Jaws being the leading screenreader in 10 years any more.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Chris Hill
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 7:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
It sounds like it would be a bit more flexible since you don't have to fight with the activation as much if you use a lot of different computers, but otherwise it looks like a way to generate more revenue. I just renewed my SMa, they will have a little
while longer to wait for my extra revenue.
CH
On 11/1/2018 20:53, cecropia64 wrote:
seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.� But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose
of this?�
Stew
On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Thanks, Michael.
�
It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA system.
�
Is this correct?
�
I do have one concern, though.
�
$90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I purchased the license by December 31.
�
�
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
Michael:
�
Where did you get this info?
�
I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid sentence.
�
I�d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws home options if possible.
�
Thanks for the help!
�
Tom Behler
�
�
�
Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home users in the United States.
Choose between a one-, three-, or five-year option, with the ability to easily renew your license at the end of your initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an upgrade to get new versions when they release � you have access to all upgrades released during your license term. Having access to
new versions of JAWS as they become available is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft Office�, your browser, and other applications you may use.
JAWS License Comparison
What's Next?
After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an email with instructions and a link to register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software licenses, and provides a simple way to install
and activate your software. Your license can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer and put it on a new one later.
When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same email address you used to purchase your license; if you have already registered from previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and sign in � your license will be available.
JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows operating system. Refer
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM
Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
Hello, everyone.
�
I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now available with the release
of Jaws 2019.
�
Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it at some point.
�
Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for $120.
�
If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d certainly love to learn about it.
�
Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan
�
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Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Hi Tom,
Get it from the horse’s mouth and just call Vispero.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM
To: 'jfw list' <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
Hello, everyone.
I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can’t seem to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now available with the release of Jaws 2019.
Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it at some point.
Up until now, I’ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for $120.
If there now is a more economical way to do this, I’d certainly love to learn about it.
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
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Yes, for intermitten users yes.� but for regular users it is
going to be much more expensive.� I just� don't get the why part
of the equation.
On 11/1/2018 11:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel
wrote:
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I think this is also an
offer which would make it much less expensive for somebody
who didn�t keep their SMA up-to-date to get current on Jaws.
If, for example, somebody was still on Jaws 16 or even
earlier they would have to pay several hundreds of Dollars
to get current and then another $120 for the SMA. This way
they can just subscribe for $90 a year and they are done.
What I haven�t figured out yet is if this also applies for
new Jaws users, e.g. if you don�t have Jaws at all, can you
just pay $90 a year and download/use the latest version of
Jaws and as long as you keep you rsubscription active then
you can continue to do so? If so then this really is a good
option for new Jaws users because instead of paying $900 or
whatever Jaws costs + the cost of future SMA�s they would
djust pay $90 a year. After 10 years you would have paid
$900 which is I believe what Jaws Home costs, if you had
bought it for $900 and then you would buy 5 SMA�s at
$120/each you would have paid $1,500 after 10 years so if
you are a new Jaws user then $90 a year really is a very
reasonable price and who knows what happens in 5 or 6 let
alpong 8 or 10 years, maybe Jaws won�t exist any more as
such, maybe Microsoft buys them out and it gets merged with
Narrator into Microsoft and becomes free, I certainly
wouldn�t bet on Jaws being the leading screenreader in 10
years any more.
�
�
It sounds like it would be a bit more flexible since you
don't have to fight with the activation as much if you use a
lot of different computers, but otherwise it looks like a way
to generate more revenue.� I just renewed my SMa, they will
have a little while longer to wait for my extra revenue.
�
�
CH
On 11/1/2018 20:53, cecropia64 wrote:
seems to me that this new system is going to be more
expensive by a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty
dollars a year.� But if the prices quoted are correct,
you'll be paying ninety dollars a year and it goes up from
there.� What is the purpose of this?�
�
Stew
�
On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Thanks,
Michael.
�
It
seems to me that this new system will replace the older
SMA system.
�
Is
this correct?
�
I
do have one concern, though.
�
$90
a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since
back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long
as I purchased the license by December 31.
�
�
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM
Subject:
Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Michael:
�
Where
did you get this info?
�
I�m
asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid
sentence.
�
I�d
like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws
home options if possible.
�
Thanks
for the help!
�
Tom
Behler
�
�
�
Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the
world's most popular screen reader, with an
affordable, annual license now available for home
users in the United States.
Choose
between a one-, three-, or five-year option,
with the ability to easily renew your license at the
end of your initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have
the most up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have
to pay for an upgrade to get new versions when they
release � you have access to all upgrades released
during your license term. Having access to new
versions of JAWS as they become available is essential
to ensure the ability to use your computer with the
continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft
Office�, your browser, and other applications you
may use.
JAWS License Comparison
What's
Next?
After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you
will receive an email with instructions and a link to
register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal,
which allows you to access and manage your software
licenses, and provides a simple way to install and
activate your software. Your license can be installed
on up to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you
can easily remove your license from one computer and
put it on a new one later.
When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure
to use the same email address you used to purchase
your license; if you have already registered from
previous purchases, simply select the link you receive
and sign in � your license will be available.
JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for
personal, non-commercial use only and runs on all
currently supported versions of the Windows operating
system. Refer
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM
Subject:
Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
Hello,
everyone.
�
I
have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t
seem to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws
annual home license that apparently is now available
with the release of Jaws 2019.
�
Jaws
2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need
to do something to renew it at some point.
�
Up
until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a
two-year period for $120.
�
If
there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d
certainly love to learn about it.
�
Dr.�
Tom Behler from Michigan
�
�
�
�
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I’m confused. Suppose I wanted to upgrade from JAWS 16,
which is the version I am currently using, to JAWS 2019. Are you saying
that under the new licensing arrangement I would only have to pay $90 for
the upgrade, versus about $480 if I went the SMA route? Or would I have to
pay $270 to cover JAWS versions 17,18, and 2018, on top of the $90 for JAWS
2019? Please clarify.
Gerald
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
I think this is also an offer which would
make it much less expensive for somebody who didn’t keep their SMA up-to-date to
get current on Jaws. If, for example, somebody was still on Jaws 16 or even
earlier they would have to pay several hundreds of Dollars to get current and
then another $120 for the SMA. This way they can just subscribe for $90 a year
and they are done. What I haven’t figured out yet is if this also applies for
new Jaws users, e.g. if you don’t have Jaws at all, can you just pay $90 a year
and download/use the latest version of Jaws and as long as you keep you
rsubscription active then you can continue to do so? If so then this really is a
good option for new Jaws users because instead of paying $900 or whatever Jaws
costs + the cost of future SMA’s they would djust pay $90 a year. After 10 years
you would have paid $900 which is I believe what Jaws Home costs, if you had
bought it for $900 and then you would buy 5 SMA’s at $120/each you would have
paid $1,500 after 10 years so if you are a new Jaws user then $90 a year really
is a very reasonable price and who knows what happens in 5 or 6 let alpong 8 or
10 years, maybe Jaws won’t exist any more as such, maybe Microsoft buys them out
and it gets merged with Narrator into Microsoft and becomes free, I certainly
wouldn’t bet on Jaws being the leading screenreader in 10 years any
more.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 7:37
PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New
Annual Jaws Home Subscription
It sounds like it would be a bit more flexible since you don't have to fight
with the activation as much if you use a lot of different computers, but
otherwise it looks like a way to generate more revenue. I just renewed my
SMa, they will have a little while longer to wait for my extra
revenue.
CH
On 11/1/2018 20:53, cecropia64 wrote:
seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by a lot.�
With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.� But if the prices
quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety dollars a year and it goes up from
there.� What is the purpose of this?�
Stew
On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler
wrote:
Thanks,
Michael.
�
It seems to me
that this new system will replace the older SMA system.
�
Is this
correct?
�
I do have one
concern, though.
�
$90 a year
doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since back in 2016, I got two
years of Jaws for $120, as long as I purchased the license by December
31.
�
�
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM
Subject:
Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Michael:
�
Where did you
get this info?
�
I�m asking
because the explanation seemed to end in mid sentence.
�
I�d like to
get the full explanation of the various Jaws home options if
possible.
�
Thanks for the
help!
�
Tom
Behler
�
�
�
Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular
screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home
users in the United States. Choose between a one-, three-, or
five-year option, with the ability to easily renew your
license at the end of your initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most up-to-date
version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an upgrade to get new versions
when they release � you have access to all upgrades released during your
license term. Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available
is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with the continuous
updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft Office�, your browser, and
other applications you may use.
JAWS
License Comparison
What's
Next?
After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an email
with instructions and a link to register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing
Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software licenses, and
provides a simple way to install and activate your software. Your license
can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you can
easily remove your license from one computer and put it on a new one
later.
When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same email
address you used to purchase your license; if you have already registered
from previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and sign in �
your license will be available.
JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial
use only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows
operating system. Refer
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM
Subject:
Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Hello,
everyone.
�
I have been
reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem to find a nice concise
summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now available
with the release of Jaws 2019.
�
Jaws 2019 is
the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it
at some point.
�
Up until now,
I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for
$120.
�
If there now
is a more economical way to do this, I�d certainly love to learn about
it.
�
Dr.� Tom
Behler from Michigan
�
�
|
|
|
Alan Robbins <alan1057@...>
From what I have read, as well as listened to from Freedom scientific staff and podcast, it would cost you $90 and it would be that recurring charge each year to keep a current license to have jaws installed and up to three computers.
On Nov 2, 2018, at 6:23 AM, Gerald Levy < bwaylimited@...> wrote:
I’m confused. Suppose I wanted to upgrade from JAWS 16,
which is the version I am currently using, to JAWS 2019. Are you saying
that under the new licensing arrangement I would only have to pay $90 for
the upgrade, versus about $480 if I went the SMA route? Or would I have to
pay $270 to cover JAWS versions 17,18, and 2018, on top of the $90 for JAWS
2019? Please clarify.
Gerald
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
I think this is also an offer which would
make it much less expensive for somebody who didn’t keep their SMA up-to-date to
get current on Jaws. If, for example, somebody was still on Jaws 16 or even
earlier they would have to pay several hundreds of Dollars to get current and
then another $120 for the SMA. This way they can just subscribe for $90 a year
and they are done. What I haven’t figured out yet is if this also applies for
new Jaws users, e.g. if you don’t have Jaws at all, can you just pay $90 a year
and download/use the latest version of Jaws and as long as you keep you
rsubscription active then you can continue to do so? If so then this really is a
good option for new Jaws users because instead of paying $900 or whatever Jaws
costs + the cost of future SMA’s they would djust pay $90 a year. After 10 years
you would have paid $900 which is I believe what Jaws Home costs, if you had
bought it for $900 and then you would buy 5 SMA’s at $120/each you would have
paid $1,500 after 10 years so if you are a new Jaws user then $90 a year really
is a very reasonable price and who knows what happens in 5 or 6 let alpong 8 or
10 years, maybe Jaws won’t exist any more as such, maybe Microsoft buys them out
and it gets merged with Narrator into Microsoft and becomes free, I certainly
wouldn’t bet on Jaws being the leading screenreader in 10 years any
more.
It sounds like it would be a bit more flexible since you don't have to fight
with the activation as much if you use a lot of different computers, but
otherwise it looks like a way to generate more revenue. I just renewed my
SMa, they will have a little while longer to wait for my extra
revenue.
CH
On 11/1/2018 20:53, cecropia64 wrote:
seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by a lot.�
With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.� But if the prices
quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety dollars a year and it goes up from
there.� What is the purpose of this?�
Stew
On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler
wrote:
Thanks,
Michael.
�
It seems to me
that this new system will replace the older SMA system.
�
Is this
correct?
�
I do have one
concern, though.
�
$90 a year
doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since back in 2016, I got two
years of Jaws for $120, as long as I purchased the license by December
31.
�
�
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM
Subject:
Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Michael:
�
Where did you
get this info?
�
I�m asking
because the explanation seemed to end in mid sentence.
�
I�d like to
get the full explanation of the various Jaws home options if
possible.
�
Thanks for the
help!
�
Tom
Behler
�
�
�
Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular
screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home
users in the United States. Choose between a one-, three-, or
five-year option, with the ability to easily renew your
license at the end of your initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most up-to-date
version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an upgrade to get new versions
when they release � you have access to all upgrades released during your
license term. Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available
is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with the continuous
updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft Office�, your browser, and
other applications you may use.
JAWS
License Comparison
What's
Next?
After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an email
with instructions and a link to register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing
Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software licenses, and
provides a simple way to install and activate your software. Your license
can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you can
easily remove your license from one computer and put it on a new one
later.
When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same email
address you used to purchase your license; if you have already registered
from previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and sign in �
your license will be available.
JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial
use only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows
operating system. Refer
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM
Subject:
Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Hello,
everyone.
�
I have been
reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem to find a nice concise
summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now available
with the release of Jaws 2019.
�
Jaws 2019 is
the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it
at some point.
�
Up until now,
I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for
$120.
�
If there now
is a more economical way to do this, I�d certainly love to learn about
it.
�
Dr.� Tom
Behler from Michigan
�
�
|
|
|
Gotcha. But Eric Damery, who has been posting about this new pricing
arrangement on another JAWS mailing list, claims that it is cheaper than the SMA
arrangement. How is this possible? Under the SMA arrangement, let’s
calculate the cost for upgrading to JAWS 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022. By my
calculation, the SMA route would cost $240, $120 for JAWS 2019 and 2020, and
another $120 for JAWS 2021 and 2022. Under the licensing arrangement, the
cost would be $90 for each version of JAWS for a total of $360 for versions
2019, 2020,2021 and 2022. Over the long run, the new licensing arrangement
would be much more expensive. And what is the advantage of taking out a 5
year license, which would cost $450 versus buying a new license each year for
$90 a year? There is no discount for paying in advance. Suppose you
pay for a 5 year license, and Vispero goes belly up in two years? Then
you’re totally screwed because there would probably be no way to obtain a refund
for the years you have not yet used up. Don’t think Vispero could ever go
out of business? Think again. It has happened in the past.
Companies that sell products for the blind suddenly go under without notice and
leave their customers in the lurch. And with more and more JAWS users
jumping to NVDA, and the fact that Vispero is essentially increasing the cost of
upgrading JAWS every year, they could certainly tick off enough customers to go
the way of GW Micro, Optalek and other companies that have bitten the
dust.
Gerald
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
From what I have read, as well as listened to from Freedom
scientific staff and podcast, it would cost you $90 and it would be that
recurring charge each year to keep a current license to have jaws installed and
up to three computers.
I’m confused. Suppose I wanted to upgrade from JAWS 16,
which is the version I am currently using, to JAWS 2019. Are you saying
that under the new licensing arrangement I would only have to pay $90
for the upgrade, versus about $480 if I went the SMA route? Or would I
have to pay $270 to cover JAWS versions 17,18, and 2018, on top of the $90 for
JAWS 2019? Please clarify.
Gerald
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
I think this is also an offer which would
make it much less expensive for somebody who didn’t keep their SMA up-to-date
to get current on Jaws. If, for example, somebody was still on Jaws 16 or even
earlier they would have to pay several hundreds of Dollars to get current and
then another $120 for the SMA. This way they can just subscribe for $90 a year
and they are done. What I haven’t figured out yet is if this also applies for
new Jaws users, e.g. if you don’t have Jaws at all, can you just pay $90 a
year and download/use the latest version of Jaws and as long as you keep you
rsubscription active then you can continue to do so? If so then this really is
a good option for new Jaws users because instead of paying $900 or whatever
Jaws costs + the cost of future SMA’s they would djust pay $90 a year. After
10 years you would have paid $900 which is I believe what Jaws Home costs, if
you had bought it for $900 and then you would buy 5 SMA’s at $120/each you
would have paid $1,500 after 10 years so if you are a new Jaws user then $90 a
year really is a very reasonable price and who knows what happens in 5 or 6
let alpong 8 or 10 years, maybe Jaws won’t exist any more as such, maybe
Microsoft buys them out and it gets merged with Narrator into Microsoft and
becomes free, I certainly wouldn’t bet on Jaws being the leading screenreader
in 10 years any more.
It sounds like it would be a bit more flexible since you don't have to
fight with the activation as much if you use a lot of different computers, but
otherwise it looks like a way to generate more revenue. I just renewed
my SMa, they will have a little while longer to wait for my extra
revenue.
CH
On 11/1/2018 20:53, cecropia64 wrote:
seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by a
lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.� But if the
prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety dollars a year and it
goes up from there.� What is the purpose of this?�
Stew
On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler
wrote:
Thanks,
Michael.
�
It seems to
me that this new system will replace the older SMA system.
�
Is this
correct?
�
I do have
one concern, though.
�
$90 a year
doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since back in 2016, I got two
years of Jaws for $120, as long as I purchased the license by December
31.
�
�
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM
Subject:
Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Michael:
�
Where did
you get this info?
�
I�m asking
because the explanation seemed to end in mid sentence.
�
I�d like
to get the full explanation of the various Jaws home options if
possible.
�
Thanks for
the help!
�
Tom
Behler
�
�
�
Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular
screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home
users in the United States. Choose between a one-, three-,
or five-year option, with the ability to easily renew your
license at the end of your initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most
up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an upgrade to get
new versions when they release � you have access to all upgrades
released during your license term. Having access to new versions of JAWS
as they become available is essential to ensure the ability to use your
computer with the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft
Office�, your browser, and other applications you may
use.
JAWS
License Comparison
What's
Next?
After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an
email with instructions and a link to register on the Freedom Scientific
Licensing Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software
licenses, and provides a simple way to install and activate your software.
Your license can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the
portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer and put it on
a new one later.
When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same
email address you used to purchase your license; if you have already
registered from previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and
sign in � your license will be available.
JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial
use only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows
operating system. Refer
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM
Subject:
Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Hello,
everyone.
�
I have been
reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem to find a nice concise
summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now
available with the release of Jaws 2019.
�
Jaws 2019 is
the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew
it at some point.
�
Up until
now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for
$120.
�
If there now
is a more economical way to do this, I�d certainly love to learn about
it.
�
Dr.� Tom
Behler from Michigan
�
�
|
|
|
Alan Robbins <alan1057@...>
Gerald, Good points. Certainly don’t want to speak for Eric, but I think he is alluding to the license being cheaper for those not current as they would no longer need to catch up. That said, Jaws 2019 just used my last SMA so I went online last night and purchase a SMA for the next two versions, 222020 and 2021) for $120 as that is cheaper than two licenses at $90 for each year. Also, in two years when I go to the license option, as I think SMA will end, I will only purchase one year at a time for the very reasons you state. Even if there was a small discount I would stick with one year at a time Al
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 7:27 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Gotcha. But Eric Damery, who has been posting about this new pricing arrangement on another JAWS mailing list, claims that it is cheaper than the SMA arrangement. How is this possible? Under the SMA arrangement, let’s calculate the cost for upgrading to JAWS 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022. By my calculation, the SMA route would cost $240, $120 for JAWS 2019 and 2020, and another $120 for JAWS 2021 and 2022. Under the licensing arrangement, the cost would be $90 for each version of JAWS for a total of $360 for versions 2019, 2020,2021 and 2022. Over the long run, the new licensing arrangement would be much more expensive. And what is the advantage of taking out a 5 year license, which would cost $450 versus buying a new license each year for $90 a year? There is no discount for paying in advance. Suppose you pay for a 5 year license, and Vispero goes belly up in two years? Then you’re totally screwed because there would probably be no way to obtain a refund for the years you have not yet used up. Don’t think Vispero could ever go out of business? Think again. It has happened in the past. Companies that sell products for the blind suddenly go under without notice and leave their customers in the lurch. And with more and more JAWS users jumping to NVDA, and the fact that Vispero is essentially increasing the cost of upgrading JAWS every year, they could certainly tick off enough customers to go the way of GW Micro, Optalek and other companies that have bitten the dust. Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 6:45 AM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription From what I have read, as well as listened to from Freedom scientific staff and podcast, it would cost you $90 and it would be that recurring charge each year to keep a current license to have jaws installed and up to three computers. I’m confused. Suppose I wanted to upgrade from JAWS 16, which is the version I am currently using, to JAWS 2019. Are you saying that under the new licensing arrangement I would only have to pay $90 for the upgrade, versus about $480 if I went the SMA route? Or would I have to pay $270 to cover JAWS versions 17,18, and 2018, on top of the $90 for JAWS 2019? Please clarify. Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 11:12 PM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription I think this is also an offer which would make it much less expensive for somebody who didn’t keep their SMA up-to-date to get current on Jaws. If, for example, somebody was still on Jaws 16 or even earlier they would have to pay several hundreds of Dollars to get current and then another $120 for the SMA. This way they can just subscribe for $90 a year and they are done. What I haven’t figured out yet is if this also applies for new Jaws users, e.g. if you don’t have Jaws at all, can you just pay $90 a year and download/use the latest version of Jaws and as long as you keep you rsubscription active then you can continue to do so? If so then this really is a good option for new Jaws users because instead of paying $900 or whatever Jaws costs + the cost of future SMA’s they would djust pay $90 a year. After 10 years you would have paid $900 which is I believe what Jaws Home costs, if you had bought it for $900 and then you would buy 5 SMA’s at $120/each you would have paid $1,500 after 10 years so if you are a new Jaws user then $90 a year really is a very reasonable price and who knows what happens in 5 or 6 let alpong 8 or 10 years, maybe Jaws won’t exist any more as such, maybe Microsoft buys them out and it gets merged with Narrator into Microsoft and becomes free, I certainly wouldn’t bet on Jaws being the leading screenreader in 10 years any more. It sounds like it would be a bit more flexible since you don't have to fight with the activation as much if you use a lot of different computers, but otherwise it looks like a way to generate more revenue. I just renewed my SMa, they will have a little while longer to wait for my extra revenue. CH On 11/1/2018 20:53, cecropia64 wrote: seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.� But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose of this?� Stew On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote: Thanks, Michael. � It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA system. � Is this correct? � I do have one concern, though. � $90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I purchased the license by December 31. � � Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Michael: � Where did you get this info? � I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid sentence. � I�d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws home options if possible. � Thanks for the help! � Tom Behler � � � Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home users in the United States. Choose between a one-, three-, or five-year option, with the ability to easily renew your license at the end of your initial term. With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an upgrade to get new versions when they release � you have access to all upgrades released during your license term. Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft Office�, your browser, and other applications you may use. JAWS License Comparison What's Next? After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an email with instructions and a link to register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software licenses, and provides a simple way to install and activate your software. Your license can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer and put it on a new one later. When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same email address you used to purchase your license; if you have already registered from previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and sign in � your license will be available. JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows operating system. Refer Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription Hello, everyone. � I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now available with the release of Jaws 2019. � Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it at some point. � Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for $120. � If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d certainly love to learn about it. � Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan � �
|
|
|
Remember a few years ago when GW Micro stopped charging for Window Eyes
updates for those customers who purchased MS Office? Everyone thought this
was the best thing since sliced bread, and some members of other lists were so
giddy that they predicted that GW Micro would knock Freedom Scientific out of
the water and force them into submission. How did that work out? To
me, buying a five year license makes no sense unless Vispero offers some kind of
financial incentive, like, say a 10% or 15% discount for buying all those
additional years in advance.
Gerald
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Gerald,
Good points.
Certainly don’t want to speak for Eric, but I think he is
alluding to the license being cheaper for those not current as they would no
longer need to catch up.
That said, Jaws 2019 just used my last SMA so I went online
last night and purchase a SMA for the next two versions, 222020 and 2021) for
$120 as that is cheaper than two licenses at $90 for each year.
Also, in two years when I go to the license option, as I
think SMA will end, I will only purchase one year at a time for the very reasons
you state. Even if there was a small discount I would stick with one year at a
time
Al
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 7:27
AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New
Annual Jaws Home Subscription
Gotcha. But Eric Damery,
who has been posting about this new pricing arrangement on another JAWS mailing
list, claims that it is cheaper than the SMA arrangement. How is this
possible? Under the SMA arrangement, let’s calculate the cost for
upgrading to JAWS 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022. By my calculation, the SMA
route would cost $240, $120 for JAWS 2019 and 2020, and another $120 for JAWS
2021 and 2022. Under the licensing arrangement, the cost would be $90 for
each version of JAWS for a total of $360 for versions 2019, 2020,2021 and
2022. Over the long run, the new licensing arrangement would be much more
expensive. And what is the advantage of taking out a 5 year license, which
would cost $450 versus buying a new license each year for $90 a year?
There is no discount for paying in advance. Suppose you pay for a 5 year
license, and Vispero goes belly up in two years? Then you’re totally
screwed because there would probably be no way to obtain a refund for the years
you have not yet used up. Don’t think Vispero could ever go out of
business? Think again. It has happened in the past. Companies
that sell products for the blind suddenly go under without notice and leave
their customers in the lurch. And with more and more JAWS users jumping to
NVDA, and the fact that Vispero is essentially increasing the cost of upgrading
JAWS every year, they could certainly tick off enough customers to go the way of
GW Micro, Optalek and other companies that have bitten the
dust.
Sent: Friday, November 02,
2018 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: Need Details On
New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
From what I have read, as well
as listened to from Freedom scientific staff and podcast, it would cost you $90
and it would be that recurring charge each year to keep a current license to
have jaws installed and up to three computers.
I’m
confused. Suppose I wanted to upgrade from JAWS 16, which is
the version I am currently using, to JAWS 2019. Are you saying that
under the new licensing arrangement I would only have to pay $90 for the
upgrade, versus about $480 if I went the SMA route? Or would I have to
pay $270 to cover JAWS versions 17,18, and 2018, on top of the $90 for JAWS
2019? Please clarify.
Sent: Thursday, November
01, 2018 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: Need Details On
New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
I think this is also an offer which would
make it much less expensive for somebody who didn’t keep their SMA up-to-date
to get current on Jaws. If, for example, somebody was still on Jaws 16 or even
earlier they would have to pay several hundreds of Dollars to get current and
then another $120 for the SMA. This way they can just subscribe for $90 a year
and they are done. What I haven’t figured out yet is if this also applies for
new Jaws users, e.g. if you don’t have Jaws at all, can you just pay $90 a
year and download/use the latest version of Jaws and as long as you keep you
rsubscription active then you can continue to do so? If so then this really is
a good option for new Jaws users because instead of paying $900 or whatever
Jaws costs + the cost of future SMA’s they would djust pay $90 a year. After
10 years you would have paid $900 which is I believe what Jaws Home costs, if
you had bought it for $900 and then you would buy 5 SMA’s at $120/each you
would have paid $1,500 after 10 years so if you are a new Jaws user then $90 a
year really is a very reasonable price and who knows what happens in 5 or 6
let alpong 8 or 10 years, maybe Jaws won’t exist any more as such, maybe
Microsoft buys them out and it gets merged with Narrator into Microsoft and
becomes free, I certainly wouldn’t bet on Jaws being the leading screenreader
in 10 years any more.
It sounds like it would be a
bit more flexible since you don't have to fight with the activation as much if
you use a lot of different computers, but otherwise it looks like a way to
generate more revenue. I just renewed my SMa, they will have a little
while longer to wait for my extra revenue.
CH
On 11/1/2018 20:53, cecropia64 wrote:
seems to me that this new
system is going to be more expensive by a lot.� With a sma, you are only
paying sixty dollars a year.� But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll
be paying ninety dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the
purpose of this?�
Stew
On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler
wrote:
Thanks,
Michael.
�
It seems to
me that this new system will replace the older SMA system.
�
Is this
correct?
�
I do have
one concern, though.
�
$90 a year
doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since back in 2016, I got two
years of Jaws for $120, as long as I purchased the license by December
31.
�
�
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM
Subject:
Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Michael:
�
Where did
you get this info?
�
I�m asking
because the explanation seemed to end in mid sentence.
�
I�d like
to get the full explanation of the various Jaws home options if
possible.
�
Thanks for
the help!
�
Tom
Behler
�
�
�
Stay current with the
latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular screen reader, with an
affordable, annual license now available for home users in the United
States. Choose
between a one-, three-, or five-year option, with the
ability to easily renew your license at the end of your initial
term.
With a JAWS Home Annual
license you will always have the most up-to-date version of JAWS, and will
not have to pay for an upgrade to get new versions when they release �
you have access to all upgrades released during your license term. Having
access to new versions of JAWS as they become available is essential to
ensure the ability to use your computer with the continuous updates of
Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft Office�, your browser, and other
applications you may use.
JAWS
License Comparison
What's
Next?
After purchasing your JAWS
Home Annual license, you will receive an email with instructions and a
link to register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows
you to access and manage your software licenses, and provides a simple way
to install and activate your software. Your license can be installed on up
to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you can easily remove your
license from one computer and put it on a new one
later.
When registering on the
Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same email address you used to
purchase your license; if you have already registered from previous
purchases, simply select the link you receive and sign in � your license
will be available.
JAWS Home is intended for
use by end-users for personal, non-commercial use only and runs on all
currently supported versions of the Windows operating system. Refer
Sent:
Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM
Subject:
Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription
Hello,
everyone.
�
I have been
reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem to find a nice concise
summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now
available with the release of Jaws 2019.
�
Jaws 2019 is
the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew
it at some point.
�
Up until
now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for
$120.
�
If there now
is a more economical way to do this, I�d certainly love to learn about
it.
�
Dr.� Tom
Behler from Michigan
�
�
|
|
|
Hi Lorie, I’m really sorry to hear this is still going on. I can’t believe that aproned posted that, he always seemed such a good guy, but my opinion of him has just dropped incredibly. I know it probably doesn’t seem like it, but honestly it will all die down and be forgotten about, stuff on the internet stays in the lime light for a week or two , then everyone loses interest. My advice is to just ignore the comments /post, just try and put it to the back of your mind and get on with your life, don’t let it stop you doing stuff like your acting. Honestly these people aren’t worth worrying about, they are all prepared to make these big bold comments whilst they hide behind their computers, none of them would have the balls to say half of the stuff they do face to face. I know I keep saying it, but just try and ignore the posts and I promise it will die down and be all forgotten soon. If you need to chat at any time I’m only ever a skipe away. Paul
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Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
I am one of those who was a strong supporter/user of Window-Eyes. I was extremely sad that VFO bought them out to finally kill it.
That being said, GW Micro was paid a large sum of money by Microsoft to do the Office deal to get Window-Eyes for free. That version did not come with support, if someone wanted support, they had to pay an extra charge. The amount Microsoft
paid has never been revealed. I am not going to get into the debate about which screen reader was better since there is no chance Window-Eyes is coming back.
Unless I am missing something really obvious here, the home license for essentially $60 per year is good on one computer. The new deal at $90 per year is good for up to three computers. So, if you are in a household with at least two
Jaws users, that is a better deal.
If you have only one computer, like myself and am the only one needing Jaws, then the SMA is a better deal.
And, also unless I am missing something, you have always been able to deactivate your license on one computer and put it on another one.
I will not be surprised that I have no idea what I’m talking about, but I’m happy with buying the SMA.
Richard
“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gerald Levy
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 5:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
Remember a few years ago when GW Micro stopped charging for Window Eyes updates for those customers who purchased MS Office? Everyone thought this was the best thing since sliced bread, and some members of
other lists were so giddy that they predicted that GW Micro would knock Freedom Scientific out of the water and force them into submission. How did that work out? To me, buying a five year license makes no sense unless Vispero offers some kind of financial
incentive, like, say a 10% or 15% discount for buying all those additional years in advance.
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
Gerald,
Good points.
Certainly don’t want to speak for Eric, but I think he is alluding to the license being cheaper for those not current as they would no longer need to catch up.
That said, Jaws 2019 just used my last SMA so I went online last night and purchase a SMA for the next two versions, 222020 and 2021) for $120 as that is cheaper than two licenses at $90 for each year.
Also, in two years when I go to the license option, as I think SMA will end, I will only purchase one year at a time for the very reasons you state. Even if there was a small discount I would stick with one year at a time
Al
Gotcha. But Eric Damery, who has been posting about this new pricing arrangement on another JAWS mailing list, claims that it is cheaper than the SMA arrangement. How is this possible? Under the SMA arrangement,
let’s calculate the cost for upgrading to JAWS 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022. By my calculation, the SMA route would cost $240, $120 for JAWS 2019 and 2020, and another $120 for JAWS 2021 and 2022. Under the licensing arrangement, the cost would be $90 for each
version of JAWS for a total of $360 for versions 2019, 2020,2021 and 2022. Over the long run, the new licensing arrangement would be much more expensive. And what is the advantage of taking out a 5 year license, which would cost $450 versus buying a new
license each year for $90 a year? There is no discount for paying in advance. Suppose you pay for a 5 year license, and Vispero goes belly up in two years? Then you’re totally screwed because there would probably be no way to obtain a refund for the years
you have not yet used up. Don’t think Vispero could ever go out of business? Think again. It has happened in the past. Companies that sell products for the blind suddenly go under without notice and leave their customers in the lurch. And with more and
more JAWS users jumping to NVDA, and the fact that Vispero is essentially increasing the cost of upgrading JAWS every year, they could certainly tick off enough customers to go the way of GW Micro, Optalek and other companies that have bitten the dust.
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
From what I have read, as well as listened to from Freedom scientific staff and podcast, it would cost you $90 and it would be that recurring charge each year to keep a current license to have jaws installed
and up to three computers.
I’m confused. Suppose I wanted to upgrade from JAWS 16, which is the version I am currently using, to JAWS 2019. Are you saying that under the new licensing arrangement I would only have to pay $90 for
the upgrade, versus about $480 if I went the SMA route? Or would I have to pay $270 to cover JAWS versions 17,18, and 2018, on top of the $90 for JAWS 2019? Please clarify.
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
I think this is also an offer which would make it much less expensive for somebody who didn’t keep their SMA up-to-date to get current on Jaws. If, for example, somebody was still on Jaws 16 or even earlier they would
have to pay several hundreds of Dollars to get current and then another $120 for the SMA. This way they can just subscribe for $90 a year and they are done. What I haven’t figured out yet is if this also applies for new Jaws users, e.g. if you don’t have Jaws
at all, can you just pay $90 a year and download/use the latest version of Jaws and as long as you keep you rsubscription active then you can continue to do so? If so then this really is a good option for new Jaws users because instead of paying $900 or whatever
Jaws costs + the cost of future SMA’s they would djust pay $90 a year. After 10 years you would have paid $900 which is I believe what Jaws Home costs, if you had bought it for $900 and then you would buy 5 SMA’s at $120/each you would have paid $1,500 after
10 years so if you are a new Jaws user then $90 a year really is a very reasonable price and who knows what happens in 5 or 6 let alpong 8 or 10 years, maybe Jaws won’t exist any more as such, maybe Microsoft buys them out and it gets merged with Narrator
into Microsoft and becomes free, I certainly wouldn’t bet on Jaws being the leading screenreader in 10 years any more.
It sounds like it would be a bit more flexible since you don't have to fight with the activation as much if you use a lot of different computers, but otherwise it looks like a way to generate more revenue. I just
renewed my SMa, they will have a little while longer to wait for my extra revenue.
CH
On 11/1/2018 20:53, cecropia64 wrote:
seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.� But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety dollars a year and
it goes up from there.� What is the purpose of this?�
Stew
On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Thanks, Michael.
�
It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA system.
�
Is this correct?
�
I do have one concern, though.
�
$90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I purchased the license by December 31.
�
�
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
Michael:
�
Where did you get this info?
�
I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid sentence.
�
I�d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws home options if possible.
�
Thanks for the help!
�
Tom Behler
�
�
�
Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home users in the United States.
Choose between a one-, three-, or five-year option, with the ability to easily renew your license at the end of your initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an upgrade to get new versions when they release � you have access to all upgrades released
during your license term. Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft Office�, your browser, and other applications
you may use.
JAWS
License Comparison
What's Next?
After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an email with instructions and a link to register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software
licenses, and provides a simple way to install and activate your software. Your license can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer and put it on a new one later.
When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same email address you used to purchase your license; if you have already registered from previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and
sign in � your license will be available.
JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows operating system. Refer
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM
Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
Hello, everyone.
�
I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now available with the release
of Jaws 2019.
�
Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it at some point.
�
Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for $120.
�
If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d certainly love to learn about it.
�
Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan
�
�
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That was my point exactly. Unless you don't plan on sticking with Jaws, why bother paying more for less? Makes no sense.
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On 11/2/2018 7:26 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: Gotcha. But Eric Damery, who has been posting about this new pricing arrangement on another JAWS mailing list, claims that it is cheaper than the SMA arrangement. How is this possible? Under the SMA arrangement, let’s calculate the cost for upgrading to JAWS 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022. By my calculation, the SMA route would cost $240, $120 for JAWS 2019 and 2020, and another $120 for JAWS 2021 and 2022. Under the licensing arrangement, the cost would be $90 for each version of JAWS for a total of $360 for versions 2019, 2020,2021 and 2022. Over the long run, the new licensing arrangement would be much more expensive. And what is the advantage of taking out a 5 year license, which would cost $450 versus buying a new license each year for $90 a year? There is no discount for paying in advance. Suppose you pay for a 5 year license, and Vispero goes belly up in two years? Then you’re totally screwed because there would probably be no way to obtain a refund for the years you have not yet used up. Don’t think Vispero could ever go out of business? Think again. It has happened in the past. Companies that sell products for the blind suddenly go under without notice and leave their customers in the lurch. And with more and more JAWS users jumping to NVDA, and the fact that Vispero is essentially increasing the cost of upgrading JAWS every year, they could certainly tick off enough customers to go the way of GW Micro, Optalek and other companies that have bitten the dust.
Gerald
*From:* Alan Robbins via Groups.Io <mailto:alan1057@...>
*Sent:* Friday, November 02, 2018 6:45 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
From what I have read, as well as listened to from Freedom scientific staff and podcast, it would cost you $90 and it would be that recurring charge each year to keep a current license to have jaws installed and up to three computers.
On Nov 2, 2018, at 6:23 AM, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@... <mailto:bwaylimited@...>> wrote:
I’m confused. Suppose I wanted to upgrade from JAWS 16, which is the version I am currently using, to JAWS 2019. Are you saying that under the new licensing arrangement I would only have to pay $90 for the upgrade, versus about $480 if I went the SMA route? Or would I have to pay $270 to cover JAWS versions 17,18, and 2018, on top of the $90 for JAWS 2019? Please clarify.
Gerald
*From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:sieghard@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 11:12 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
I think this is also an offer which would make it much less expensive for somebody who didn’t keep their SMA up-to-date to get current on Jaws. If, for example, somebody was still on Jaws 16 or even earlier they would have to pay several hundreds of Dollars to get current and then another $120 for the SMA. This way they can just subscribe for $90 a year and they are done. What I haven’t figured out yet is if this also applies for new Jaws users, e.g. if you don’t have Jaws at all, can you just pay $90 a year and download/use the latest version of Jaws and as long as you keep you rsubscription active then you can continue to do so? If so then this really is a good option for new Jaws users because instead of paying $900 or whatever Jaws costs + the cost of future SMA’s they would djust pay $90 a year. After 10 years you would have paid $900 which is I believe what Jaws Home costs, if you had bought it for $900 and then you would buy 5 SMA’s at $120/each you would have paid $1,500 after 10 years so if you are a new Jaws user then $90 a year really is a very reasonable price and who knows what happens in 5 or 6 let alpong 8 or 10 years, maybe Jaws won’t exist any more as such, maybe Microsoft buys them out and it gets merged with Narrator into Microsoft and becomes free, I certainly wouldn’t bet on Jaws being the leading screenreader in 10 years any more.
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Chris Hill
*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 7:37 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
It sounds like it would be a bit more flexible since you don't have to fight with the activation as much if you use a lot of different computers, but otherwise it looks like a way to generate more revenue. I just renewed my SMa, they will have a little while longer to wait for my extra revenue.
CH
On 11/1/2018 20:53, cecropia64 wrote:
seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by
a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a
year.� But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying
ninety dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the
purpose of this?�
Stew
On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Thanks, Michael.
�
It seems to me that this new system will replace the older
SMA system.
�
Is this correct?
�
I do have one concern, though.
�
$90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since
back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I
purchased the license by December 31.
�
*Am I missing something?*
*�*
*Tom Behler*
*�*
*�*
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
mailto:main@jfw.groups.io *On Behalf Of *Michael Amaro
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:23 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
�
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*From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
�
Michael:
�
Where did you get this info?
�
I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid
sentence.
�
I�d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws
home options if possible.
�
Thanks for the help!
�
Tom Behler
�
�
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf
Of *Michael Amaro
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:05 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
�
Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's
most popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual
license now available for home users in the United States.
*Choose between a one-, three-, or five-year option*, with
the ability to easily renew your license at the end of your
initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most
up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an
upgrade to get new versions when they release � you have
access to all upgrades released during your license term.
Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become
available is essential to ensure the ability to use your
computer with the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�,
Microsoft Office�, your browser, and other applications you
may use.
*JAWS License Comparison
<https://www.freedomscientific.com/products/blindness/JAWSLicenseComparison>*
*What's Next?*
After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will
receive an email with instructions and a link to register on
the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to
access and manage your software licenses, and provides a
simple way to install and activate your software. Your
license can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and
using the portal, you can easily remove your license from one
computer and put it on a new one later.
When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use
the same email address you used to purchase your license; if
you have already registered from previous purchases, simply
select the link you receive and sign in � your license will
be available.
JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal,
non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported
versions of the Windows operating system. Refer
�
*From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM
*To:* 'jfw list' <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
�
Hello, everyone.
�
I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem
to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home
license that apparently is now available with the release of
Jaws 2019.
�
Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need
to do something to renew it at some point.
�
Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year
period for $120.
�
If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d
certainly love to learn about it.
�
Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan
�
�
|
|
|
in addition, I don't think that the SMA scheme will ever be replaced,
and I sincerely hope it never does. there is no harm in keeping the SMA
scheme for those who keep their use of JAWS versions up to date.
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-------- Original Message -------- From: Alan Robbins via Groups.Io [mailto:alan1057@...] Sent: Friday, Nov 2, 2018 6:45 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription From what I have read, as well as listened to from Freedom scientific staff and podcast, it would cost you $90 and it would be that recurring charge each year to keep a current license to have jaws installed and up to three computers. On Nov 2, 2018, at 6:23 AM, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@... <mailto:bwaylimited@...>> wrote: I’m confused. Suppose I wanted to upgrade from JAWS 16, which is the version I am currently using, to JAWS 2019. Are you saying that under the new licensing arrangement I would only have to pay $90 for the upgrade, versus about $480 if I went the SMA route? Or would I have to pay $270 to cover JAWS versions 17,18, and 2018, on top of the $90 for JAWS 2019? Please clarify. Gerald *From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:sieghard@...> *Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 11:12 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription I think this is also an offer which would make it much less expensive for somebody who didn’t keep their SMA up-to-date to get current on Jaws. If, for example, somebody was still on Jaws 16 or even earlier they would have to pay several hundreds of Dollars to get current and then another $120 for the SMA. This way they can just subscribe for $90 a year and they are done. What I haven’t figured out yet is if this also applies for new Jaws users, e.g. if you don’t have Jaws at all, can you just pay $90 a year and download/use the latest version of Jaws and as long as you keep you rsubscription active then you can continue to do so? If so then this really is a good option for new Jaws users because instead of paying $900 or whatever Jaws costs + the cost of future SMA’s they would djust pay $90 a year. After 10 years you would have paid $900 which is I believe what Jaws Home costs, if you had bought it for $900 and then you would buy 5 SMA’s at $120/each you would have paid $1,500 after 10 years so if you are a new Jaws user then $90 a year really is a very reasonable price and who knows what happens in 5 or 6 let alpong 8 or 10 years, maybe Jaws won’t exist any more as such, maybe Microsoft buys them out and it gets merged with Narrator into Microsoft and becomes free, I certainly wouldn’t bet on Jaws being the leading screenreader in 10 years any more. *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Chris Hill *Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 7:37 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription It sounds like it would be a bit more flexible since you don't have to fight with the activation as much if you use a lot of different computers, but otherwise it looks like a way to generate more revenue. I just renewed my SMa, they will have a little while longer to wait for my extra revenue. CH On 11/1/2018 20:53, cecropia64 wrote: seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.� But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose of this?� Stew On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote: Thanks, Michael. � It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA system. � Is this correct? � I do have one concern, though. � $90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I purchased the license by December 31. � *Am I missing something?* *�* *Tom Behler* *�* *�* *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> mailto:main@jfw.groups.io *On Behalf Of *Michael Amaro *Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:23 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription � from the fs e store. � https://store.freedomscientific.com/ <wlmailhtml:%7b9C3B667B-BEAC-4613-97DF-4EF1CEF83958%7dmid://00000009/%21x-usc: https://store.freedomscientific.com/> � *From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@...> *Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription � Michael: � Where did you get this info? � I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid sentence. � I�d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws home options if possible. � Thanks for the help! � Tom Behler � � *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Michael Amaro *Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:05 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription � Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home users in the United States. *Choose between a one-, three-, or five-year option*, with the ability to easily renew your license at the end of your initial term. With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an upgrade to get new versions when they release � you have access to all upgrades released during your license term. Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft Office�, your browser, and other applications you may use. *JAWS License Comparison < https://www.freedomscientific.com/products/blindness/JAWSLicenseComparison>* *What's Next?* After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an email with instructions and a link to register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software licenses, and provides a simple way to install and activate your software. Your license can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer and put it on a new one later. When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same email address you used to purchase your license; if you have already registered from previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and sign in � your license will be available. JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows operating system. Refer � *From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@...> *Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM *To:* 'jfw list' <mailto:jfw@groups.io> *Subject:* Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription � Hello, everyone. � I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now available with the release of Jaws 2019. � Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it at some point. � Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for $120. � If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d certainly love to learn about it. � Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan � �
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Absolutely! My thoughts exactly. But if you only plan on either trying Jaws for a year or don't plan on keeping up on all versions then the license program seems to be a good alternative.
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On 11/2/2018 9:21 AM, Mario wrote: in addition, I don't think that the SMA scheme will ever be replaced,
and I sincerely hope it never does. there is no harm in keeping the SMA
scheme for those who keep their use of JAWS versions up to date.
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From: Alan Robbins via Groups.Io [mailto:alan1057@...]
Sent: Friday, Nov 2, 2018 6:45 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
From what I have read, as well as listened to from Freedom scientific
staff and podcast, it would cost you $90 and it would be that recurring
charge each year to keep a current license to have jaws installed and up
to three computers.
On Nov 2, 2018, at 6:23 AM, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@...
<mailto:bwaylimited@...>> wrote:
I’m confused. Suppose I wanted to upgrade from JAWS 16, which is
the version I am currently using, to JAWS 2019. Are you saying that
under the new licensing arrangement I would only have to pay $90 for
the upgrade, versus about $480 if I went the SMA route? Or would I
have to pay $270 to cover JAWS versions 17,18, and 2018, on top of the
$90 for JAWS 2019? Please clarify.
Gerald
*From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:sieghard@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 11:12 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
I think this is also an offer which would make it much less expensive
for somebody who didn’t keep their SMA up-to-date to get current on
Jaws. If, for example, somebody was still on Jaws 16 or even earlier
they would have to pay several hundreds of Dollars to get current and
then another $120 for the SMA. This way they can just subscribe for
$90 a year and they are done. What I haven’t figured out yet is if
this also applies for new Jaws users, e.g. if you don’t have Jaws at
all, can you just pay $90 a year and download/use the latest version
of Jaws and as long as you keep you rsubscription active then you can
continue to do so? If so then this really is a good option for new
Jaws users because instead of paying $900 or whatever Jaws costs + the
cost of future SMA’s they would djust pay $90 a year. After 10 years
you would have paid $900 which is I believe what Jaws Home costs, if
you had bought it for $900 and then you would buy 5 SMA’s at $120/each
you would have paid $1,500 after 10 years so if you are a new Jaws
user then $90 a year really is a very reasonable price and who knows
what happens in 5 or 6 let alpong 8 or 10 years, maybe Jaws won’t
exist any more as such, maybe Microsoft buys them out and it gets
merged with Narrator into Microsoft and becomes free, I certainly
wouldn’t bet on Jaws being the leading screenreader in 10 years any more.
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Chris Hill
*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 7:37 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
It sounds like it would be a bit more flexible since you don't have to
fight with the activation as much if you use a lot of different
computers, but otherwise it looks like a way to generate more
revenue. I just renewed my SMa, they will have a little while longer
to wait for my extra revenue.
CH
On 11/1/2018 20:53, cecropia64 wrote:
seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by
a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.�
But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety
dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose
of this?�
Stew
On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Thanks, Michael.
�
It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA
system.
�
Is this correct?
�
I do have one concern, though.
�
$90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since
back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I
purchased the license by December 31.
�
*Am I missing something?*
*�*
*Tom Behler*
*�*
*�*
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
mailto:main@jfw.groups.io *On Behalf Of *Michael Amaro
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:23 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
�
from the fs e store.
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https://store.freedomscientific.com/
<wlmailhtml:%7b9C3B667B-BEAC-4613-97DF-4EF1CEF83958%7dmid://00000009/%21x-usc:https://store.freedomscientific.com/>
�
*From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
�
Michael:
�
Where did you get this info?
�
I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid
sentence.
�
I�d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws
home options if possible.
�
Thanks for the help!
�
Tom Behler
�
�
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*Michael Amaro
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:05 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
�
Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most
popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now
available for home users in the United States. *Choose between
a one-, three-, or five-year option*, with the ability to
easily renew your license at the end of your initial term.
With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most
up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an
upgrade to get new versions when they release � you have
access to all upgrades released during your license term.
Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available
is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with
the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft
Office�, your browser, and other applications you may use.
*JAWS License Comparison
<https://www.freedomscientific.com/products/blindness/JAWSLicenseComparison>*
*What's Next?*
After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will
receive an email with instructions and a link to register on
the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to
access and manage your software licenses, and provides a
simple way to install and activate your software. Your license
can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the
portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer
and put it on a new one later.
When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the
same email address you used to purchase your license; if you
have already registered from previous purchases, simply select
the link you receive and sign in � your license will be
available.
JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal,
non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported
versions of the Windows operating system. Refer
�
*From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM
*To:* 'jfw list' <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
�
Hello, everyone.
�
I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem
to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home
license that apparently is now available with the release of
Jaws 2019.
�
Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need
to do something to renew it at some point.
�
Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year
period for $120.
�
If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d
certainly love to learn about it.
�
Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan
�
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