Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.


Carliss
 

Hello Listers,

I’m not able to buy Openbook9 at this time, I meed to let the funs catch up , but I really need a program that can scan for us.

Now, I never heard of one, but that doesn’t mean anything; there’s a lot of things I never heard of.

Thanks to all.

 

 

Carliss


Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Carliss,
 
Yes, it's a Jaws feature called OCR, & it's explained below.
 
here's the information from the jaws help.

Convenient OCR
Frequently, you will encounter images that contain textual information.
These can include a PDF file, the setup screen of an application, or the
menu of selections for a DVD movie. While these images contain text that is
readable by a sighted person, JAWS is unable to read the text as it is part
of the image.

The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature enables you to
access any image on the screen that includes text, or recognize all of the
text in a PDF document. With just a few simple keystrokes, JAWS will
recognize the image in a matter of seconds and activate the JAWS cursor so
you can navigate the resulting text. The recognized text will be in the same
location as the actual image on the screen. In order to differentiate the
recognized text from other text that may be in the window, JAWS will use a
different voice when it encounters the recognized text. When you activate
the PC cursor, or switch to another application or dialog box, the text is
removed and you will need to perform the OCR again.

If you open a PDF document and there is no text available to read, you can
perform a keystroke that will recognize the entire document and place the
resulting text into the Results Viewer for reading. You can then use
standard reading commands to review the text or select and copy sections of
content for pasting in other applications.

To use Convenient OCR, the following layered keystrokes are available:

INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. Recognizes the currently open PDF document.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W. Recognizes the current application window that has
focus.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, S. Recognizes the entire screen.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, C. Recognizes the currently selected control, such as a
graphical button.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, Q. Cancels recognition while it is in progress.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, QUESTION MARK. Speaks a brief help message describing
the commands in the OCR layer.
The following examples illustrate just some of the uses of this feature.

You insert a DVD movie into your computer which brings up a menu allowing
you to select from various DVD features. You press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W and
after a few seconds, JAWS will alert you that OCR is complete. At this
point, the JAWS cursor will be active and you can navigate around the screen
using the ARROW keys and read the text of the menu. When you hear the option
you want, press NUMPAD SLASH to perform a left-mouse-click, or INSERT+NUMPAD
PLUS to route PC to JAWS to activate the option. Prior to JAWS 13, this menu
would have been completely inaccessible.
Note: Depending on the type of screen the DVD displays and the quality of
the text, the Convenient OCR may not always work. Some DVD screens will be
recognized better than others.

You open a PDF in Adobe Reader which turns out to be inaccessible. Press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to have JAWS begin recognizing the entire document.
After several seconds, the contents of the PDF file are displayed in the
Results Viewer for reading. Use standard reading commands to review the text
or select and copy sections of content for pasting in other applications.
For example, you could select all, then copy and paste into a Microsoft Word
document, which you could then save.
Note: The OCR process takes longer for larger PDF files. As text is
recognized, it is added to the end of the existing text already in the
Results Viewer. This allows you to continue reading without interruption as
the document is processed. If you are currently not reading using Say All,
JAWS announces the current line as new text is added to the Results Viewer
to indicate that OCR is still in progress.

Note: If the PDF document requires a password, you will be prompted to enter
it when you first press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. You must enter the correct
password before the OCR process will continue.

You try to install or use an application whose interface is not accessible,
such as AcronisR True ImageT Home 2011 or 2012. If no text is readily
available when pressing TAB or when using the JAWS Cursor, you can try
Convenient OCR. Start with the PC Cursor and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W to
recognize the text of the welcome screen graphic. You can then use the JAWS
Cursor and NUMPAD SLASH (left mouse button) to move to and choose what are
possible buttons and links.
If you are not getting clear recognition results or you find that text is
running together when you recognize the current screen, window, or control,
refer to FAQ 63556 for ways to optimize performance. When recognizing a PDF
document, Convenient OCR does not use the physical image that is currently
visible on the screen, so the recognition results feature a higher degree of
accuracy since they are not affected by the current screen resolution.

Note that to correctly recognize text in other languages, you can configure
the primary and secondary OCR language. The Convenient OCR settings are in
the main tree view in Settings Center. When you expand this item, you have
Primary Recognition Language and Secondary Recognition Language settings.
Use the SPACEBAR to cycle through the available languages until you hear the
one you want, or press F6 to move to the combo box and select a language.

When you install JAWS from the program disc, the OCR components are
automatically installed. If you download JAWS from the Web site and have an
active Internet connection when you begin the installation, the OCR
components will be downloaded during the install. If you do not have an
active Internet connection when you install JAWS from the Web download, a
message is displayed at the end of the installation stating that some
components were not installed. To use the OCR feature, establish an Internet
connection and run the installation again so the OCR components are
downloaded.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Carliss
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 4:14 PM
Subject: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

Hello Listers,

I’m not able to buy Openbook9 at this time, I meed to let the funs catch up , but I really need a program that can scan for us.

Now, I never heard of one, but that doesn’t mean anything; there’s a lot of things I never heard of.

Thanks to all.

 

 

Carliss


Maria Campbell
 

I think the least expensive OCR scanning program is the text cloner at about $100.

JAWS OCR feature will not read a book.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama
On 9/22/2016 7:57 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Carliss,
 
Yes, it's a Jaws feature called OCR, & it's explained below.
 
here's the information from the jaws help.

Convenient OCR
Frequently, you will encounter images that contain textual information.
These can include a PDF file, the setup screen of an application, or the
menu of selections for a DVD movie. While these images contain text that is
readable by a sighted person, JAWS is unable to read the text as it is part
of the image.

The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature enables you to
access any image on the screen that includes text, or recognize all of the
text in a PDF document. With just a few simple keystrokes, JAWS will
recognize the image in a matter of seconds and activate the JAWS cursor so
you can navigate the resulting text. The recognized text will be in the same
location as the actual image on the screen. In order to differentiate the
recognized text from other text that may be in the window, JAWS will use a
different voice when it encounters the recognized text. When you activate
the PC cursor, or switch to another application or dialog box, the text is
removed and you will need to perform the OCR again.

If you open a PDF document and there is no text available to read, you can
perform a keystroke that will recognize the entire document and place the
resulting text into the Results Viewer for reading. You can then use
standard reading commands to review the text or select and copy sections of
content for pasting in other applications.

To use Convenient OCR, the following layered keystrokes are available:

INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. Recognizes the currently open PDF document.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W. Recognizes the current application window that has
focus.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, S. Recognizes the entire screen.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, C. Recognizes the currently selected control, such as a
graphical button.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, Q. Cancels recognition while it is in progress.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, QUESTION MARK. Speaks a brief help message describing
the commands in the OCR layer.
The following examples illustrate just some of the uses of this feature.

You insert a DVD movie into your computer which brings up a menu allowing
you to select from various DVD features. You press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W and
after a few seconds, JAWS will alert you that OCR is complete. At this
point, the JAWS cursor will be active and you can navigate around the screen
using the ARROW keys and read the text of the menu. When you hear the option
you want, press NUMPAD SLASH to perform a left-mouse-click, or INSERT+NUMPAD
PLUS to route PC to JAWS to activate the option. Prior to JAWS 13, this menu
would have been completely inaccessible.
Note: Depending on the type of screen the DVD displays and the quality of
the text, the Convenient OCR may not always work. Some DVD screens will be
recognized better than others.

You open a PDF in Adobe Reader which turns out to be inaccessible. Press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to have JAWS begin recognizing the entire document.
After several seconds, the contents of the PDF file are displayed in the
Results Viewer for reading. Use standard reading commands to review the text
or select and copy sections of content for pasting in other applications.
For example, you could select all, then copy and paste into a Microsoft Word
document, which you could then save.
Note: The OCR process takes longer for larger PDF files. As text is
recognized, it is added to the end of the existing text already in the
Results Viewer. This allows you to continue reading without interruption as
the document is processed. If you are currently not reading using Say All,
JAWS announces the current line as new text is added to the Results Viewer
to indicate that OCR is still in progress.

Note: If the PDF document requires a password, you will be prompted to enter
it when you first press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. You must enter the correct
password before the OCR process will continue.

You try to install or use an application whose interface is not accessible,
such as AcronisR True ImageT Home 2011 or 2012. If no text is readily
available when pressing TAB or when using the JAWS Cursor, you can try
Convenient OCR. Start with the PC Cursor and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W to
recognize the text of the welcome screen graphic. You can then use the JAWS
Cursor and NUMPAD SLASH (left mouse button) to move to and choose what are
possible buttons and links.
If you are not getting clear recognition results or you find that text is
running together when you recognize the current screen, window, or control,
refer to FAQ 63556 for ways to optimize performance. When recognizing a PDF
document, Convenient OCR does not use the physical image that is currently
visible on the screen, so the recognition results feature a higher degree of
accuracy since they are not affected by the current screen resolution.

Note that to correctly recognize text in other languages, you can configure
the primary and secondary OCR language. The Convenient OCR settings are in
the main tree view in Settings Center. When you expand this item, you have
Primary Recognition Language and Secondary Recognition Language settings.
Use the SPACEBAR to cycle through the available languages until you hear the
one you want, or press F6 to move to the combo box and select a language.

When you install JAWS from the program disc, the OCR components are
automatically installed. If you download JAWS from the Web site and have an
active Internet connection when you begin the installation, the OCR
components will be downloaded during the install. If you do not have an
active Internet connection when you install JAWS from the Web download, a
message is displayed at the end of the installation stating that some
components were not installed. To use the OCR feature, establish an Internet
connection and run the installation again so the OCR components are
downloaded.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Carliss
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 4:14 PM
Subject: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

Hello Listers,

I’m not able to buy Openbook9 at this time, I meed to let the funs catch up , but I really need a program that can scan for us.

Now, I never heard of one, but that doesn’t mean anything; there’s a lot of things I never heard of.

Thanks to all.

 

 

Carliss



Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Mike. I don't think the JAWS OCR program scans. You can't hook up a scanner, put a paper on it, and have JAWS OCR read the result.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

Hi Carliss,
 
Yes, it's a Jaws feature called OCR, & it's explained below.
 
here's the information from the jaws help.

Convenient OCR
Frequently, you will encounter images that contain textual information.
These can include a PDF file, the setup screen of an application, or the
menu of selections for a DVD movie. While these images contain text that is
readable by a sighted person, JAWS is unable to read the text as it is part
of the image.

The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature enables you to
access any image on the screen that includes text, or recognize all of the
text in a PDF document. With just a few simple keystrokes, JAWS will
recognize the image in a matter of seconds and activate the JAWS cursor so
you can navigate the resulting text. The recognized text will be in the same
location as the actual image on the screen. In order to differentiate the
recognized text from other text that may be in the window, JAWS will use a
different voice when it encounters the recognized text. When you activate
the PC cursor, or switch to another application or dialog box, the text is
removed and you will need to perform the OCR again.

If you open a PDF document and there is no text available to read, you can
perform a keystroke that will recognize the entire document and place the
resulting text into the Results Viewer for reading. You can then use
standard reading commands to review the text or select and copy sections of
content for pasting in other applications.

To use Convenient OCR, the following layered keystrokes are available:

INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. Recognizes the currently open PDF document.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W. Recognizes the current application window that has
focus.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, S. Recognizes the entire screen.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, C. Recognizes the currently selected control, such as a
graphical button.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, Q. Cancels recognition while it is in progress.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, QUESTION MARK. Speaks a brief help message describing
the commands in the OCR layer.
The following examples illustrate just some of the uses of this feature.

You insert a DVD movie into your computer which brings up a menu allowing
you to select from various DVD features. You press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W and
after a few seconds, JAWS will alert you that OCR is complete. At this
point, the JAWS cursor will be active and you can navigate around the screen
using the ARROW keys and read the text of the menu. When you hear the option
you want, press NUMPAD SLASH to perform a left-mouse-click, or INSERT+NUMPAD
PLUS to route PC to JAWS to activate the option. Prior to JAWS 13, this menu
would have been completely inaccessible.
Note: Depending on the type of screen the DVD displays and the quality of
the text, the Convenient OCR may not always work. Some DVD screens will be
recognized better than others.

You open a PDF in Adobe Reader which turns out to be inaccessible. Press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to have JAWS begin recognizing the entire document.
After several seconds, the contents of the PDF file are displayed in the
Results Viewer for reading. Use standard reading commands to review the text
or select and copy sections of content for pasting in other applications.
For example, you could select all, then copy and paste into a Microsoft Word
document, which you could then save.
Note: The OCR process takes longer for larger PDF files. As text is
recognized, it is added to the end of the existing text already in the
Results Viewer. This allows you to continue reading without interruption as
the document is processed. If you are currently not reading using Say All,
JAWS announces the current line as new text is added to the Results Viewer
to indicate that OCR is still in progress.

Note: If the PDF document requires a password, you will be prompted to enter
it when you first press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. You must enter the correct
password before the OCR process will continue.

You try to install or use an application whose interface is not accessible,
such as AcronisR True ImageT Home 2011 or 2012. If no text is readily
available when pressing TAB or when using the JAWS Cursor, you can try
Convenient OCR. Start with the PC Cursor and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W to
recognize the text of the welcome screen graphic. You can then use the JAWS
Cursor and NUMPAD SLASH (left mouse button) to move to and choose what are
possible buttons and links.
If you are not getting clear recognition results or you find that text is
running together when you recognize the current screen, window, or control,
refer to FAQ 63556 for ways to optimize performance. When recognizing a PDF
document, Convenient OCR does not use the physical image that is currently
visible on the screen, so the recognition results feature a higher degree of
accuracy since they are not affected by the current screen resolution.

Note that to correctly recognize text in other languages, you can configure
the primary and secondary OCR language. The Convenient OCR settings are in
the main tree view in Settings Center. When you expand this item, you have
Primary Recognition Language and Secondary Recognition Language settings.
Use the SPACEBAR to cycle through the available languages until you hear the
one you want, or press F6 to move to the combo box and select a language.

When you install JAWS from the program disc, the OCR components are
automatically installed. If you download JAWS from the Web site and have an
active Internet connection when you begin the installation, the OCR
components will be downloaded during the install. If you do not have an
active Internet connection when you install JAWS from the Web download, a
message is displayed at the end of the installation stating that some
components were not installed. To use the OCR feature, establish an Internet
connection and run the installation again so the OCR components are
downloaded.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Carliss
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 4:14 PM
Subject: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

Hello Listers,

I’m not able to buy Openbook9 at this time, I meed to let the funs catch up , but I really need a program that can scan for us.

Now, I never heard of one, but that doesn’t mean anything; there’s a lot of things I never heard of.

Thanks to all.

 

 

Carliss



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Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

Hi Carliss,

I don’t know of any free OCR’s such as the $900.00 Open Book program.

But I do know that you can buy a program like DocuScan by SaroTech; for about $300.00. It is cloud based so it can be used on any of your devices. I’ve heard it works fairly well.

Other than that; if you have an IPhone, there are many free OCR apps. But the one that most of the blind go with; is the  $99.00 KNFB Reader; OCR app.

 

I don’t know if this answers your question, but I hope it helps.

 

 

Thanks and be safe!......Mike

 

Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy!

“Providing Insight for Blindness”

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member

FCB 6thd Annual Blind Fishing Tournament!

Saturday March 11, 2017!

Cape Coral Yacht Club; 5819 Driftwood Pkwy. Cape Coral, Fl. 33904

 

Mike’s home phone: 239-540-7431

Mike’s cell phone: 239-565-5845

Mike’s email: mulrich@...

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carliss
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 7:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

Hello Listers,

I’m not able to buy Openbook9 at this time, I meed to let the funs catch up , but I really need a program that can scan for us.

Now, I never heard of one, but that doesn’t mean anything; there’s a lot of things I never heard of.

Thanks to all.

 

 

Carliss


 

But if you have a scanner which can save scanned files as PDF you can simply scan your printed material, then open the PDF file and recognize the entire document with the layered keystroke Jaws Key+Space followed by "O" and "D".

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 5:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

Hi, Mike. I don't think the JAWS OCR program scans. You can't hook up a scanner, put a paper on it, and have JAWS OCR read the result.

Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 4:57 PM

Subject: Re: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

Hi Carliss,

 

Yes, it's a Jaws feature called OCR, & it's explained below.

 

here's the information from the jaws help.

Convenient OCR
Frequently, you will encounter images that contain textual information.
These can include a PDF file, the setup screen of an application, or the
menu of selections for a DVD movie. While these images contain text that is
readable by a sighted person, JAWS is unable to read the text as it is part
of the image.

The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature enables you to
access any image on the screen that includes text, or recognize all of the
text in a PDF document. With just a few simple keystrokes, JAWS will
recognize the image in a matter of seconds and activate the JAWS cursor so
you can navigate the resulting text. The recognized text will be in the same
location as the actual image on the screen. In order to differentiate the
recognized text from other text that may be in the window, JAWS will use a
different voice when it encounters the recognized text. When you activate
the PC cursor, or switch to another application or dialog box, the text is
removed and you will need to perform the OCR again.

If you open a PDF document and there is no text available to read, you can
perform a keystroke that will recognize the entire document and place the
resulting text into the Results Viewer for reading. You can then use
standard reading commands to review the text or select and copy sections of
content for pasting in other applications.

To use Convenient OCR, the following layered keystrokes are available:

INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. Recognizes the currently open PDF document.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W. Recognizes the current application window that has
focus.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, S. Recognizes the entire screen.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, C. Recognizes the currently selected control, such as a
graphical button.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, Q. Cancels recognition while it is in progress.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, QUESTION MARK. Speaks a brief help message describing
the commands in the OCR layer.
The following examples illustrate just some of the uses of this feature.

You insert a DVD movie into your computer which brings up a menu allowing
you to select from various DVD features. You press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W and
after a few seconds, JAWS will alert you that OCR is complete. At this
point, the JAWS cursor will be active and you can navigate around the screen
using the ARROW keys and read the text of the menu. When you hear the option
you want, press NUMPAD SLASH to perform a left-mouse-click, or INSERT+NUMPAD
PLUS to route PC to JAWS to activate the option. Prior to JAWS 13, this menu
would have been completely inaccessible.
Note: Depending on the type of screen the DVD displays and the quality of
the text, the Convenient OCR may not always work. Some DVD screens will be
recognized better than others.

You open a PDF in Adobe Reader which turns out to be inaccessible. Press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to have JAWS begin recognizing the entire document.
After several seconds, the contents of the PDF file are displayed in the
Results Viewer for reading. Use standard reading commands to review the text
or select and copy sections of content for pasting in other applications.
For example, you could select all, then copy and paste into a Microsoft Word
document, which you could then save.
Note: The OCR process takes longer for larger PDF files. As text is
recognized, it is added to the end of the existing text already in the
Results Viewer. This allows you to continue reading without interruption as
the document is processed. If you are currently not reading using Say All,
JAWS announces the current line as new text is added to the Results Viewer
to indicate that OCR is still in progress.

Note: If the PDF document requires a password, you will be prompted to enter
it when you first press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. You must enter the correct
password before the OCR process will continue.

You try to install or use an application whose interface is not accessible,
such as AcronisR True ImageT Home 2011 or 2012. If no text is readily
available when pressing TAB or when using the JAWS Cursor, you can try
Convenient OCR. Start with the PC Cursor and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W to
recognize the text of the welcome screen graphic. You can then use the JAWS
Cursor and NUMPAD SLASH (left mouse button) to move to and choose what are
possible buttons and links.
If you are not getting clear recognition results or you find that text is
running together when you recognize the current screen, window, or control,
refer to FAQ 63556 for ways to optimize performance. When recognizing a PDF
document, Convenient OCR does not use the physical image that is currently
visible on the screen, so the recognition results feature a higher degree of
accuracy since they are not affected by the current screen resolution.

Note that to correctly recognize text in other languages, you can configure
the primary and secondary OCR language. The Convenient OCR settings are in
the main tree view in Settings Center. When you expand this item, you have
Primary Recognition Language and Secondary Recognition Language settings.
Use the SPACEBAR to cycle through the available languages until you hear the
one you want, or press F6 to move to the combo box and select a language.

When you install JAWS from the program disc, the OCR components are
automatically installed. If you download JAWS from the Web site and have an
active Internet connection when you begin the installation, the OCR
components will be downloaded during the install. If you do not have an
active Internet connection when you install JAWS from the Web download, a
message is displayed at the end of the installation stating that some
components were not installed. To use the OCR feature, establish an Internet
connection and run the installation again so the OCR components are
downloaded.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Carliss

Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 4:14 PM

Subject: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

Hello Listers,

I’m not able to buy Openbook9 at this time, I meed to let the funs catch up , but I really need a program that can scan for us.

Now, I never heard of one, but that doesn’t mean anything; there’s a lot of things I never heard of.

Thanks to all.

 

 

Carliss



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Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

I have JAWS 16.0 and use the JAWS OCR to read mostly formerly nonaccessible PDF’s. This works very well for me. But will it work for attached scanned image documents? Such as a .JPG file?

 

I think what Carliss was referring to; was physically scanning a print document; then having an OCR read it back? So would the new JAWS OCR be able to do this?

 

I’d be really interested to know.

 

 

Thanks!......Mike

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 7:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

Hi Carliss,

 

Yes, it's a Jaws feature called OCR, & it's explained below.

 

here's the information from the jaws help.

Convenient OCR
Frequently, you will encounter images that contain textual information.
These can include a PDF file, the setup screen of an application, or the
menu of selections for a DVD movie. While these images contain text that is
readable by a sighted person, JAWS is unable to read the text as it is part
of the image.

The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature enables you to
access any image on the screen that includes text, or recognize all of the
text in a PDF document. With just a few simple keystrokes, JAWS will
recognize the image in a matter of seconds and activate the JAWS cursor so
you can navigate the resulting text. The recognized text will be in the same
location as the actual image on the screen. In order to differentiate the
recognized text from other text that may be in the window, JAWS will use a
different voice when it encounters the recognized text. When you activate
the PC cursor, or switch to another application or dialog box, the text is
removed and you will need to perform the OCR again.

If you open a PDF document and there is no text available to read, you can
perform a keystroke that will recognize the entire document and place the
resulting text into the Results Viewer for reading. You can then use
standard reading commands to review the text or select and copy sections of
content for pasting in other applications.

To use Convenient OCR, the following layered keystrokes are available:

INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. Recognizes the currently open PDF document.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W. Recognizes the current application window that has
focus.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, S. Recognizes the entire screen.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, C. Recognizes the currently selected control, such as a
graphical button.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, Q. Cancels recognition while it is in progress.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, QUESTION MARK. Speaks a brief help message describing
the commands in the OCR layer.
The following examples illustrate just some of the uses of this feature.

You insert a DVD movie into your computer which brings up a menu allowing
you to select from various DVD features. You press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W and
after a few seconds, JAWS will alert you that OCR is complete. At this
point, the JAWS cursor will be active and you can navigate around the screen
using the ARROW keys and read the text of the menu. When you hear the option
you want, press NUMPAD SLASH to perform a left-mouse-click, or INSERT+NUMPAD
PLUS to route PC to JAWS to activate the option. Prior to JAWS 13, this menu
would have been completely inaccessible.
Note: Depending on the type of screen the DVD displays and the quality of
the text, the Convenient OCR may not always work. Some DVD screens will be
recognized better than others.

You open a PDF in Adobe Reader which turns out to be inaccessible. Press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to have JAWS begin recognizing the entire document.
After several seconds, the contents of the PDF file are displayed in the
Results Viewer for reading. Use standard reading commands to review the text
or select and copy sections of content for pasting in other applications.
For example, you could select all, then copy and paste into a Microsoft Word
document, which you could then save.
Note: The OCR process takes longer for larger PDF files. As text is
recognized, it is added to the end of the existing text already in the
Results Viewer. This allows you to continue reading without interruption as
the document is processed. If you are currently not reading using Say All,
JAWS announces the current line as new text is added to the Results Viewer
to indicate that OCR is still in progress.

Note: If the PDF document requires a password, you will be prompted to enter
it when you first press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. You must enter the correct
password before the OCR process will continue.

You try to install or use an application whose interface is not accessible,
such as AcronisR True ImageT Home 2011 or 2012. If no text is readily
available when pressing TAB or when using the JAWS Cursor, you can try
Convenient OCR. Start with the PC Cursor and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W to
recognize the text of the welcome screen graphic. You can then use the JAWS
Cursor and NUMPAD SLASH (left mouse button) to move to and choose what are
possible buttons and links.
If you are not getting clear recognition results or you find that text is
running together when you recognize the current screen, window, or control,
refer to FAQ 63556 for ways to optimize performance. When recognizing a PDF
document, Convenient OCR does not use the physical image that is currently
visible on the screen, so the recognition results feature a higher degree of
accuracy since they are not affected by the current screen resolution.

Note that to correctly recognize text in other languages, you can configure
the primary and secondary OCR language. The Convenient OCR settings are in
the main tree view in Settings Center. When you expand this item, you have
Primary Recognition Language and Secondary Recognition Language settings.
Use the SPACEBAR to cycle through the available languages until you hear the
one you want, or press F6 to move to the combo box and select a language.

When you install JAWS from the program disc, the OCR components are
automatically installed. If you download JAWS from the Web site and have an
active Internet connection when you begin the installation, the OCR
components will be downloaded during the install. If you do not have an
active Internet connection when you install JAWS from the Web download, a
message is displayed at the end of the installation stating that some
components were not installed. To use the OCR feature, establish an Internet
connection and run the installation again so the OCR components are
downloaded.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Carliss

Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 4:14 PM

Subject: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

Hello Listers,

I’m not able to buy Openbook9 at this time, I meed to let the funs catch up , but I really need a program that can scan for us.

Now, I never heard of one, but that doesn’t mean anything; there’s a lot of things I never heard of.

Thanks to all.

 

 

Carliss


Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

Thanks big time! I’ll definitely give that one a try!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 8:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

But if you have a scanner which can save scanned files as PDF you can simply scan your printed material, then open the PDF file and recognize the entire document with the layered keystroke Jaws Key+Space followed by "O" and "D".

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 5:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

Hi, Mike. I don't think the JAWS OCR program scans. You can't hook up a scanner, put a paper on it, and have JAWS OCR read the result.

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 4:57 PM

Subject: Re: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

Hi Carliss,

 

Yes, it's a Jaws feature called OCR, & it's explained below.

 

here's the information from the jaws help.

Convenient OCR
Frequently, you will encounter images that contain textual information.
These can include a PDF file, the setup screen of an application, or the
menu of selections for a DVD movie. While these images contain text that is
readable by a sighted person, JAWS is unable to read the text as it is part
of the image.

The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature enables you to
access any image on the screen that includes text, or recognize all of the
text in a PDF document. With just a few simple keystrokes, JAWS will
recognize the image in a matter of seconds and activate the JAWS cursor so
you can navigate the resulting text. The recognized text will be in the same
location as the actual image on the screen. In order to differentiate the
recognized text from other text that may be in the window, JAWS will use a
different voice when it encounters the recognized text. When you activate
the PC cursor, or switch to another application or dialog box, the text is
removed and you will need to perform the OCR again.

If you open a PDF document and there is no text available to read, you can
perform a keystroke that will recognize the entire document and place the
resulting text into the Results Viewer for reading. You can then use
standard reading commands to review the text or select and copy sections of
content for pasting in other applications.

To use Convenient OCR, the following layered keystrokes are available:

INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. Recognizes the currently open PDF document.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W. Recognizes the current application window that has
focus.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, S. Recognizes the entire screen.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, C. Recognizes the currently selected control, such as a
graphical button.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, Q. Cancels recognition while it is in progress.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, QUESTION MARK. Speaks a brief help message describing
the commands in the OCR layer.
The following examples illustrate just some of the uses of this feature.

You insert a DVD movie into your computer which brings up a menu allowing
you to select from various DVD features. You press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W and
after a few seconds, JAWS will alert you that OCR is complete. At this
point, the JAWS cursor will be active and you can navigate around the screen
using the ARROW keys and read the text of the menu. When you hear the option
you want, press NUMPAD SLASH to perform a left-mouse-click, or INSERT+NUMPAD
PLUS to route PC to JAWS to activate the option. Prior to JAWS 13, this menu
would have been completely inaccessible.
Note: Depending on the type of screen the DVD displays and the quality of
the text, the Convenient OCR may not always work. Some DVD screens will be
recognized better than others.

You open a PDF in Adobe Reader which turns out to be inaccessible. Press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to have JAWS begin recognizing the entire document.
After several seconds, the contents of the PDF file are displayed in the
Results Viewer for reading. Use standard reading commands to review the text
or select and copy sections of content for pasting in other applications.
For example, you could select all, then copy and paste into a Microsoft Word
document, which you could then save.
Note: The OCR process takes longer for larger PDF files. As text is
recognized, it is added to the end of the existing text already in the
Results Viewer. This allows you to continue reading without interruption as
the document is processed. If you are currently not reading using Say All,
JAWS announces the current line as new text is added to the Results Viewer
to indicate that OCR is still in progress.

Note: If the PDF document requires a password, you will be prompted to enter
it when you first press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. You must enter the correct
password before the OCR process will continue.

You try to install or use an application whose interface is not accessible,
such as AcronisR True ImageT Home 2011 or 2012. If no text is readily
available when pressing TAB or when using the JAWS Cursor, you can try
Convenient OCR. Start with the PC Cursor and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W to
recognize the text of the welcome screen graphic. You can then use the JAWS
Cursor and NUMPAD SLASH (left mouse button) to move to and choose what are
possible buttons and links.
If you are not getting clear recognition results or you find that text is
running together when you recognize the current screen, window, or control,
refer to FAQ 63556 for ways to optimize performance. When recognizing a PDF
document, Convenient OCR does not use the physical image that is currently
visible on the screen, so the recognition results feature a higher degree of
accuracy since they are not affected by the current screen resolution.

Note that to correctly recognize text in other languages, you can configure
the primary and secondary OCR language. The Convenient OCR settings are in
the main tree view in Settings Center. When you expand this item, you have
Primary Recognition Language and Secondary Recognition Language settings.
Use the SPACEBAR to cycle through the available languages until you hear the
one you want, or press F6 to move to the combo box and select a language.

When you install JAWS from the program disc, the OCR components are
automatically installed. If you download JAWS from the Web site and have an
active Internet connection when you begin the installation, the OCR
components will be downloaded during the install. If you do not have an
active Internet connection when you install JAWS from the Web download, a
message is displayed at the end of the installation stating that some
components were not installed. To use the OCR feature, establish an Internet
connection and run the installation again so the OCR components are
downloaded.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Carliss

Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 4:14 PM

Subject: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

Hello Listers,

I’m not able to buy Openbook9 at this time, I meed to let the funs catch up , but I really need a program that can scan for us.

Now, I never heard of one, but that doesn’t mean anything; there’s a lot of things I never heard of.

Thanks to all.

 

 

Carliss



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It has to be in PDF format. A lot of the software that comes with scanners nowadays will save in PDF format instead of JPG. I know this adds another step, but if your scanner only saves in JPG format you can use an online free converter to convert the image to PDF and then use Jaws Convenient OCR.

My Fujitsu Scansnap IX500 saves everything in PDF so it works well for me and while I own Openbook I haven't used it in years.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 5:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

I have JAWS 16.0 and use the JAWS OCR to read mostly formerly nonaccessible PDF’s. This works very well for me. But will it work for attached scanned image documents? Such as a .JPG file?

 

I think what Carliss was referring to; was physically scanning a print document; then having an OCR read it back? So would the new JAWS OCR be able to do this?

 

I’d be really interested to know.

 

 

Thanks!......Mike

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 7:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

Hi Carliss,

 

Yes, it's a Jaws feature called OCR, & it's explained below.

 

here's the information from the jaws help.

Convenient OCR
Frequently, you will encounter images that contain textual information.
These can include a PDF file, the setup screen of an application, or the
menu of selections for a DVD movie. While these images contain text that is
readable by a sighted person, JAWS is unable to read the text as it is part
of the image.

The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature enables you to
access any image on the screen that includes text, or recognize all of the
text in a PDF document. With just a few simple keystrokes, JAWS will
recognize the image in a matter of seconds and activate the JAWS cursor so
you can navigate the resulting text. The recognized text will be in the same
location as the actual image on the screen. In order to differentiate the
recognized text from other text that may be in the window, JAWS will use a
different voice when it encounters the recognized text. When you activate
the PC cursor, or switch to another application or dialog box, the text is
removed and you will need to perform the OCR again.

If you open a PDF document and there is no text available to read, you can
perform a keystroke that will recognize the entire document and place the
resulting text into the Results Viewer for reading. You can then use
standard reading commands to review the text or select and copy sections of
content for pasting in other applications.

To use Convenient OCR, the following layered keystrokes are available:

INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. Recognizes the currently open PDF document.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W. Recognizes the current application window that has
focus.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, S. Recognizes the entire screen.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, C. Recognizes the currently selected control, such as a
graphical button.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, Q. Cancels recognition while it is in progress.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, QUESTION MARK. Speaks a brief help message describing
the commands in the OCR layer.
The following examples illustrate just some of the uses of this feature.

You insert a DVD movie into your computer which brings up a menu allowing
you to select from various DVD features. You press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W and
after a few seconds, JAWS will alert you that OCR is complete. At this
point, the JAWS cursor will be active and you can navigate around the screen
using the ARROW keys and read the text of the menu. When you hear the option
you want, press NUMPAD SLASH to perform a left-mouse-click, or INSERT+NUMPAD
PLUS to route PC to JAWS to activate the option. Prior to JAWS 13, this menu
would have been completely inaccessible.
Note: Depending on the type of screen the DVD displays and the quality of
the text, the Convenient OCR may not always work. Some DVD screens will be
recognized better than others.

You open a PDF in Adobe Reader which turns out to be inaccessible. Press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to have JAWS begin recognizing the entire document.
After several seconds, the contents of the PDF file are displayed in the
Results Viewer for reading. Use standard reading commands to review the text
or select and copy sections of content for pasting in other applications.
For example, you could select all, then copy and paste into a Microsoft Word
document, which you could then save.
Note: The OCR process takes longer for larger PDF files. As text is
recognized, it is added to the end of the existing text already in the
Results Viewer. This allows you to continue reading without interruption as
the document is processed. If you are currently not reading using Say All,
JAWS announces the current line as new text is added to the Results Viewer
to indicate that OCR is still in progress.

Note: If the PDF document requires a password, you will be prompted to enter
it when you first press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. You must enter the correct
password before the OCR process will continue.

You try to install or use an application whose interface is not accessible,
such as AcronisR True ImageT Home 2011 or 2012. If no text is readily
available when pressing TAB or when using the JAWS Cursor, you can try
Convenient OCR. Start with the PC Cursor and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W to
recognize the text of the welcome screen graphic. You can then use the JAWS
Cursor and NUMPAD SLASH (left mouse button) to move to and choose what are
possible buttons and links.
If you are not getting clear recognition results or you find that text is
running together when you recognize the current screen, window, or control,
refer to FAQ 63556 for ways to optimize performance. When recognizing a PDF
document, Convenient OCR does not use the physical image that is currently
visible on the screen, so the recognition results feature a higher degree of
accuracy since they are not affected by the current screen resolution.

Note that to correctly recognize text in other languages, you can configure
the primary and secondary OCR language. The Convenient OCR settings are in
the main tree view in Settings Center. When you expand this item, you have
Primary Recognition Language and Secondary Recognition Language settings.
Use the SPACEBAR to cycle through the available languages until you hear the
one you want, or press F6 to move to the combo box and select a language.

When you install JAWS from the program disc, the OCR components are
automatically installed. If you download JAWS from the Web site and have an
active Internet connection when you begin the installation, the OCR
components will be downloaded during the install. If you do not have an
active Internet connection when you install JAWS from the Web download, a
message is displayed at the end of the installation stating that some
components were not installed. To use the OCR feature, establish an Internet
connection and run the installation again so the OCR components are
downloaded.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Carliss

Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 4:14 PM

Subject: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

Hello Listers,

I’m not able to buy Openbook9 at this time, I meed to let the funs catch up , but I really need a program that can scan for us.

Now, I never heard of one, but that doesn’t mean anything; there’s a lot of things I never heard of.

Thanks to all.

 

 

Carliss


Luis Difut
 

I use ABBY fine reader to scan documents to readable PDF.

Luie

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 8:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

It has to be in PDF format. A lot of the software that comes with scanners nowadays will save in PDF format instead of JPG. I know this adds another step, but if your scanner only saves in JPG format you can use an online free converter to convert the image to PDF and then use Jaws Convenient OCR.

My Fujitsu Scansnap IX500 saves everything in PDF so it works well for me and while I own Openbook I haven't used it in years.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 5:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

I have JAWS 16.0 and use the JAWS OCR to read mostly formerly nonaccessible PDF’s. This works very well for me. But will it work for attached scanned image documents? Such as a .JPG file?

 

I think what Carliss was referring to; was physically scanning a print document; then having an OCR read it back? So would the new JAWS OCR be able to do this?

 

I’d be really interested to know.

 

 

Thanks!......Mike

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 7:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

Hi Carliss,

 

Yes, it's a Jaws feature called OCR, & it's explained below.

 

here's the information from the jaws help.

Convenient OCR
Frequently, you will encounter images that contain textual information.
These can include a PDF file, the setup screen of an application, or the
menu of selections for a DVD movie. While these images contain text that is
readable by a sighted person, JAWS is unable to read the text as it is part
of the image.

The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature enables you to
access any image on the screen that includes text, or recognize all of the
text in a PDF document. With just a few simple keystrokes, JAWS will
recognize the image in a matter of seconds and activate the JAWS cursor so
you can navigate the resulting text. The recognized text will be in the same
location as the actual image on the screen. In order to differentiate the
recognized text from other text that may be in the window, JAWS will use a
different voice when it encounters the recognized text. When you activate
the PC cursor, or switch to another application or dialog box, the text is
removed and you will need to perform the OCR again.

If you open a PDF document and there is no text available to read, you can
perform a keystroke that will recognize the entire document and place the
resulting text into the Results Viewer for reading. You can then use
standard reading commands to review the text or select and copy sections of
content for pasting in other applications.

To use Convenient OCR, the following layered keystrokes are available:

INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. Recognizes the currently open PDF document.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W. Recognizes the current application window that has
focus.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, S. Recognizes the entire screen.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, C. Recognizes the currently selected control, such as a
graphical button.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, Q. Cancels recognition while it is in progress.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, QUESTION MARK. Speaks a brief help message describing
the commands in the OCR layer.
The following examples illustrate just some of the uses of this feature.

You insert a DVD movie into your computer which brings up a menu allowing
you to select from various DVD features. You press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W and
after a few seconds, JAWS will alert you that OCR is complete. At this
point, the JAWS cursor will be active and you can navigate around the screen
using the ARROW keys and read the text of the menu. When you hear the option
you want, press NUMPAD SLASH to perform a left-mouse-click, or INSERT+NUMPAD
PLUS to route PC to JAWS to activate the option. Prior to JAWS 13, this menu
would have been completely inaccessible.
Note: Depending on the type of screen the DVD displays and the quality of
the text, the Convenient OCR may not always work. Some DVD screens will be
recognized better than others.

You open a PDF in Adobe Reader which turns out to be inaccessible. Press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to have JAWS begin recognizing the entire document.
After several seconds, the contents of the PDF file are displayed in the
Results Viewer for reading. Use standard reading commands to review the text
or select and copy sections of content for pasting in other applications.
For example, you could select all, then copy and paste into a Microsoft Word
document, which you could then save.
Note: The OCR process takes longer for larger PDF files. As text is
recognized, it is added to the end of the existing text already in the
Results Viewer. This allows you to continue reading without interruption as
the document is processed. If you are currently not reading using Say All,
JAWS announces the current line as new text is added to the Results Viewer
to indicate that OCR is still in progress.

Note: If the PDF document requires a password, you will be prompted to enter
it when you first press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. You must enter the correct
password before the OCR process will continue.

You try to install or use an application whose interface is not accessible,
such as AcronisR True ImageT Home 2011 or 2012. If no text is readily
available when pressing TAB or when using the JAWS Cursor, you can try
Convenient OCR. Start with the PC Cursor and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W to
recognize the text of the welcome screen graphic. You can then use the JAWS
Cursor and NUMPAD SLASH (left mouse button) to move to and choose what are
possible buttons and links.
If you are not getting clear recognition results or you find that text is
running together when you recognize the current screen, window, or control,
refer to FAQ 63556 for ways to optimize performance. When recognizing a PDF
document, Convenient OCR does not use the physical image that is currently
visible on the screen, so the recognition results feature a higher degree of
accuracy since they are not affected by the current screen resolution.

Note that to correctly recognize text in other languages, you can configure
the primary and secondary OCR language. The Convenient OCR settings are in
the main tree view in Settings Center. When you expand this item, you have
Primary Recognition Language and Secondary Recognition Language settings.
Use the SPACEBAR to cycle through the available languages until you hear the
one you want, or press F6 to move to the combo box and select a language.

When you install JAWS from the program disc, the OCR components are
automatically installed. If you download JAWS from the Web site and have an
active Internet connection when you begin the installation, the OCR
components will be downloaded during the install. If you do not have an
active Internet connection when you install JAWS from the Web download, a
message is displayed at the end of the installation stating that some
components were not installed. To use the OCR feature, establish an Internet
connection and run the installation again so the OCR components are
downloaded.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Carliss

Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 4:14 PM

Subject: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

Hello Listers,

I’m not able to buy Openbook9 at this time, I meed to let the funs catch up , but I really need a program that can scan for us.

Now, I never heard of one, but that doesn’t mean anything; there’s a lot of things I never heard of.

Thanks to all.

 

 

Carliss


Luis Difut
 

ABBY Fine reader pro is only in the ball park of $159 & comes with some scanners/ all in one machines. It works well for me.

Luie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 8:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

Hi Carliss,

I don’t know of any free OCR’s such as the $900.00 Open Book program.

But I do know that you can buy a program like DocuScan by SaroTech; for about $300.00. It is cloud based so it can be used on any of your devices. I’ve heard it works fairly well.

Other than that; if you have an IPhone, there are many free OCR apps. But the one that most of the blind go with; is the  $99.00 KNFB Reader; OCR app.

 

I don’t know if this answers your question, but I hope it helps.

 

 

Thanks and be safe!......Mike

 

Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy!

“Providing Insight for Blindness”

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member

FCB 6thd Annual Blind Fishing Tournament!

Saturday March 11, 2017!

Cape Coral Yacht Club; 5819 Driftwood Pkwy. Cape Coral, Fl. 33904

 

Mike’s home phone: 239-540-7431

Mike’s cell phone: 239-565-5845

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carliss
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 7:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

Hello Listers,

I’m not able to buy Openbook9 at this time, I meed to let the funs catch up , but I really need a program that can scan for us.

Now, I never heard of one, but that doesn’t mean anything; there’s a lot of things I never heard of.

Thanks to all.

 

 

Carliss


Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

Thanks again, I think I remember hearing, while going through my Cannon MX492 4 in 1, about there being something like saving the image as a PDF along with other formats. I’ll check it out tomorrow morning.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 8:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

It has to be in PDF format. A lot of the software that comes with scanners nowadays will save in PDF format instead of JPG. I know this adds another step, but if your scanner only saves in JPG format you can use an online free converter to convert the image to PDF and then use Jaws Convenient OCR.

My Fujitsu Scansnap IX500 saves everything in PDF so it works well for me and while I own Openbook I haven't used it in years.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 5:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

I have JAWS 16.0 and use the JAWS OCR to read mostly formerly nonaccessible PDF’s. This works very well for me. But will it work for attached scanned image documents? Such as a .JPG file?

 

I think what Carliss was referring to; was physically scanning a print document; then having an OCR read it back? So would the new JAWS OCR be able to do this?

 

I’d be really interested to know.

 

 

Thanks!......Mike

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 7:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

Hi Carliss,

 

Yes, it's a Jaws feature called OCR, & it's explained below.

 

here's the information from the jaws help.

Convenient OCR
Frequently, you will encounter images that contain textual information.
These can include a PDF file, the setup screen of an application, or the
menu of selections for a DVD movie. While these images contain text that is
readable by a sighted person, JAWS is unable to read the text as it is part
of the image.

The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature enables you to
access any image on the screen that includes text, or recognize all of the
text in a PDF document. With just a few simple keystrokes, JAWS will
recognize the image in a matter of seconds and activate the JAWS cursor so
you can navigate the resulting text. The recognized text will be in the same
location as the actual image on the screen. In order to differentiate the
recognized text from other text that may be in the window, JAWS will use a
different voice when it encounters the recognized text. When you activate
the PC cursor, or switch to another application or dialog box, the text is
removed and you will need to perform the OCR again.

If you open a PDF document and there is no text available to read, you can
perform a keystroke that will recognize the entire document and place the
resulting text into the Results Viewer for reading. You can then use
standard reading commands to review the text or select and copy sections of
content for pasting in other applications.

To use Convenient OCR, the following layered keystrokes are available:

INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. Recognizes the currently open PDF document.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W. Recognizes the current application window that has
focus.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, S. Recognizes the entire screen.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, C. Recognizes the currently selected control, such as a
graphical button.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, Q. Cancels recognition while it is in progress.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, QUESTION MARK. Speaks a brief help message describing
the commands in the OCR layer.
The following examples illustrate just some of the uses of this feature.

You insert a DVD movie into your computer which brings up a menu allowing
you to select from various DVD features. You press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W and
after a few seconds, JAWS will alert you that OCR is complete. At this
point, the JAWS cursor will be active and you can navigate around the screen
using the ARROW keys and read the text of the menu. When you hear the option
you want, press NUMPAD SLASH to perform a left-mouse-click, or INSERT+NUMPAD
PLUS to route PC to JAWS to activate the option. Prior to JAWS 13, this menu
would have been completely inaccessible.
Note: Depending on the type of screen the DVD displays and the quality of
the text, the Convenient OCR may not always work. Some DVD screens will be
recognized better than others.

You open a PDF in Adobe Reader which turns out to be inaccessible. Press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to have JAWS begin recognizing the entire document.
After several seconds, the contents of the PDF file are displayed in the
Results Viewer for reading. Use standard reading commands to review the text
or select and copy sections of content for pasting in other applications.
For example, you could select all, then copy and paste into a Microsoft Word
document, which you could then save.
Note: The OCR process takes longer for larger PDF files. As text is
recognized, it is added to the end of the existing text already in the
Results Viewer. This allows you to continue reading without interruption as
the document is processed. If you are currently not reading using Say All,
JAWS announces the current line as new text is added to the Results Viewer
to indicate that OCR is still in progress.

Note: If the PDF document requires a password, you will be prompted to enter
it when you first press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. You must enter the correct
password before the OCR process will continue.

You try to install or use an application whose interface is not accessible,
such as AcronisR True ImageT Home 2011 or 2012. If no text is readily
available when pressing TAB or when using the JAWS Cursor, you can try
Convenient OCR. Start with the PC Cursor and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W to
recognize the text of the welcome screen graphic. You can then use the JAWS
Cursor and NUMPAD SLASH (left mouse button) to move to and choose what are
possible buttons and links.
If you are not getting clear recognition results or you find that text is
running together when you recognize the current screen, window, or control,
refer to FAQ 63556 for ways to optimize performance. When recognizing a PDF
document, Convenient OCR does not use the physical image that is currently
visible on the screen, so the recognition results feature a higher degree of
accuracy since they are not affected by the current screen resolution.

Note that to correctly recognize text in other languages, you can configure
the primary and secondary OCR language. The Convenient OCR settings are in
the main tree view in Settings Center. When you expand this item, you have
Primary Recognition Language and Secondary Recognition Language settings.
Use the SPACEBAR to cycle through the available languages until you hear the
one you want, or press F6 to move to the combo box and select a language.

When you install JAWS from the program disc, the OCR components are
automatically installed. If you download JAWS from the Web site and have an
active Internet connection when you begin the installation, the OCR
components will be downloaded during the install. If you do not have an
active Internet connection when you install JAWS from the Web download, a
message is displayed at the end of the installation stating that some
components were not installed. To use the OCR feature, establish an Internet
connection and run the installation again so the OCR components are
downloaded.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Carliss

Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 4:14 PM

Subject: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

Hello Listers,

I’m not able to buy Openbook9 at this time, I meed to let the funs catch up , but I really need a program that can scan for us.

Now, I never heard of one, but that doesn’t mean anything; there’s a lot of things I never heard of.

Thanks to all.

 

 

Carliss


Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Bill,
 
No it can't, but it will read / scan many things Jaws can't read, & it can come in very handy in a pinch.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

Hi, Mike. I don't think the JAWS OCR program scans. You can't hook up a scanner, put a paper on it, and have JAWS OCR read the result.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

Hi Carliss,
 
Yes, it's a Jaws feature called OCR, & it's explained below.
 
here's the information from the jaws help.

Convenient OCR
Frequently, you will encounter images that contain textual information.
These can include a PDF file, the setup screen of an application, or the
menu of selections for a DVD movie. While these images contain text that is
readable by a sighted person, JAWS is unable to read the text as it is part
of the image.

The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature enables you to
access any image on the screen that includes text, or recognize all of the
text in a PDF document. With just a few simple keystrokes, JAWS will
recognize the image in a matter of seconds and activate the JAWS cursor so
you can navigate the resulting text. The recognized text will be in the same
location as the actual image on the screen. In order to differentiate the
recognized text from other text that may be in the window, JAWS will use a
different voice when it encounters the recognized text. When you activate
the PC cursor, or switch to another application or dialog box, the text is
removed and you will need to perform the OCR again.

If you open a PDF document and there is no text available to read, you can
perform a keystroke that will recognize the entire document and place the
resulting text into the Results Viewer for reading. You can then use
standard reading commands to review the text or select and copy sections of
content for pasting in other applications.

To use Convenient OCR, the following layered keystrokes are available:

INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. Recognizes the currently open PDF document.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W. Recognizes the current application window that has
focus.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, S. Recognizes the entire screen.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, C. Recognizes the currently selected control, such as a
graphical button.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, Q. Cancels recognition while it is in progress.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, QUESTION MARK. Speaks a brief help message describing
the commands in the OCR layer.
The following examples illustrate just some of the uses of this feature.

You insert a DVD movie into your computer which brings up a menu allowing
you to select from various DVD features. You press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W and
after a few seconds, JAWS will alert you that OCR is complete. At this
point, the JAWS cursor will be active and you can navigate around the screen
using the ARROW keys and read the text of the menu. When you hear the option
you want, press NUMPAD SLASH to perform a left-mouse-click, or INSERT+NUMPAD
PLUS to route PC to JAWS to activate the option. Prior to JAWS 13, this menu
would have been completely inaccessible.
Note: Depending on the type of screen the DVD displays and the quality of
the text, the Convenient OCR may not always work. Some DVD screens will be
recognized better than others.

You open a PDF in Adobe Reader which turns out to be inaccessible. Press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to have JAWS begin recognizing the entire document.
After several seconds, the contents of the PDF file are displayed in the
Results Viewer for reading. Use standard reading commands to review the text
or select and copy sections of content for pasting in other applications.
For example, you could select all, then copy and paste into a Microsoft Word
document, which you could then save.
Note: The OCR process takes longer for larger PDF files. As text is
recognized, it is added to the end of the existing text already in the
Results Viewer. This allows you to continue reading without interruption as
the document is processed. If you are currently not reading using Say All,
JAWS announces the current line as new text is added to the Results Viewer
to indicate that OCR is still in progress.

Note: If the PDF document requires a password, you will be prompted to enter
it when you first press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. You must enter the correct
password before the OCR process will continue.

You try to install or use an application whose interface is not accessible,
such as AcronisR True ImageT Home 2011 or 2012. If no text is readily
available when pressing TAB or when using the JAWS Cursor, you can try
Convenient OCR. Start with the PC Cursor and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W to
recognize the text of the welcome screen graphic. You can then use the JAWS
Cursor and NUMPAD SLASH (left mouse button) to move to and choose what are
possible buttons and links.
If you are not getting clear recognition results or you find that text is
running together when you recognize the current screen, window, or control,
refer to FAQ 63556 for ways to optimize performance. When recognizing a PDF
document, Convenient OCR does not use the physical image that is currently
visible on the screen, so the recognition results feature a higher degree of
accuracy since they are not affected by the current screen resolution.

Note that to correctly recognize text in other languages, you can configure
the primary and secondary OCR language. The Convenient OCR settings are in
the main tree view in Settings Center. When you expand this item, you have
Primary Recognition Language and Secondary Recognition Language settings.
Use the SPACEBAR to cycle through the available languages until you hear the
one you want, or press F6 to move to the combo box and select a language.

When you install JAWS from the program disc, the OCR components are
automatically installed. If you download JAWS from the Web site and have an
active Internet connection when you begin the installation, the OCR
components will be downloaded during the install. If you do not have an
active Internet connection when you install JAWS from the Web download, a
message is displayed at the end of the installation stating that some
components were not installed. To use the OCR feature, establish an Internet
connection and run the installation again so the OCR components are
downloaded.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Carliss
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 4:14 PM
Subject: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

Hello Listers,

I’m not able to buy Openbook9 at this time, I meed to let the funs catch up , but I really need a program that can scan for us.

Now, I never heard of one, but that doesn’t mean anything; there’s a lot of things I never heard of.

Thanks to all.

 

 

Carliss



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André van Deventer <andredbsa@...>
 

ABBYY fine reader can do the job for much much less.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: 23 September 2016 02:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

Hi Carliss,

I don’t know of any free OCR’s such as the $900.00 Open Book program.

But I do know that you can buy a program like DocuScan by SaroTech; for about $300.00. It is cloud based so it can be used on any of your devices. I’ve heard it works fairly well.

Other than that; if you have an IPhone, there are many free OCR apps. But the one that most of the blind go with; is the  $99.00 KNFB Reader; OCR app.

 

I don’t know if this answers your question, but I hope it helps.

 

 

Thanks and be safe!......Mike

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carliss
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 7:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is there a openbook like program that will scan for us.

 

Hello Listers,

I’m not able to buy Openbook9 at this time, I meed to let the funs catch up , but I really need a program that can scan for us.

Now, I never heard of one, but that doesn’t mean anything; there’s a lot of things I never heard of.

Thanks to all.

 

 

Carliss