Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View


Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10 as its operating system.

 

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10 computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7 configuration.

 

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows 10 much easier.

 

Can someone tell me if this is true;  and if it is, can you tell me how to accomplish this?

 

I hope this isn’t considered too “off topic”, but I can say that I’ll be using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 


Rob Whyte <rob.whyte@...>
 

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


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Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10 as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10 computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7 configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows 10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to accomplish this?

I hope this isn’t considered too “off topic”, but I can say that I’ll be using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Tom Behler
 

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


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Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

All told, I haven't found a justification for the apprehension some users
feel about switching to Windows 10. I can't think of a setting that somehow
makes Windows 10 more like Windows 7 than it would have been otherwise.
There were definite things one had to do with windows 8, but not Windows 10,
at least not that I can think of.


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


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Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Tom Behler
 

Dean:

I appreciate your thoughts here.

And, I'll check out the web site you suggest.

Will see what others have to say, and hope that this entire discussion
thread benefits other list members too.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

All told, I haven't found a justification for the apprehension some users
feel about switching to Windows 10. I can't think of a setting that somehow
makes Windows 10 more like Windows 7 than it would have been otherwise.
There were definite things one had to do with windows 8, but not Windows 10,
at least not that I can think of.


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


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Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Tom Behler
 

Dean:

Dr. Tom Behler here again.

I just checked

http://bahaiteachings.org

and could find nothing related to my question, Jaws, computers, or anything
similar.

Not trying to be argumentative, judgemental, or anything, but what am I
missing?

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

All told, I haven't found a justification for the apprehension some users
feel about switching to Windows 10. I can't think of a setting that somehow
makes Windows 10 more like Windows 7 than it would have been otherwise.
There were definite things one had to do with windows 8, but not Windows 10,
at least not that I can think of.


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Behler
[tombehler@...]
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

No, that's my automatic signature, not at all related to technology, just to
beliefs.

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 11:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Dean:

Dr. Tom Behler here again.

I just checked

http://bahaiteachings.org

and could find nothing related to my question, Jaws, computers, or anything
similar.

Not trying to be argumentative, judgemental, or anything, but what am I
missing?

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

All told, I haven't found a justification for the apprehension some users
feel about switching to Windows 10. I can't think of a setting that somehow
makes Windows 10 more like Windows 7 than it would have been otherwise.
There were definite things one had to do with windows 8, but not Windows 10,
at least not that I can think of.


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Behler
[tombehler@...]
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Bob Tinney
 

Hi Tom,


I've been running windows 10 since it came out andI love it. People complain about windows 10, but I have not had a problem with it.  There was one update about a year ago that caused a problem, butg Microsoft fixed that problem in about two days.


Windows 10 is more like windows 7 than was windows 8.  Good luck with your new Windows 10 computer.

Bob, K8LR, tinneyb@...

On 10/24/2018 9:52 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Behler
[tombehler@...]
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Marty Hutchings
 

I have a Windows 7 machine and my wife just got a Windows 10 machine. I need to use screen readers to access everything and sometimes have to work on her computer. It sure would be nice if I did not have to relearn where a function or command was on her computer. I had both computers on a network and they communicated nicely until her computer auto updated it's self and now I can't get onto her computer through my network from my computer. It keeps asking for a user name and pass word which I never set up for. How do I turn this off on her computer, so I can access it from my computer again?



Love in Christ
Marty

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Dean:

I appreciate your thoughts here.

And, I'll check out the web site you suggest.

Will see what others have to say, and hope that this entire discussion
thread benefits other list members too.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

All told, I haven't found a justification for the apprehension some users
feel about switching to Windows 10. I can't think of a setting that somehow
makes Windows 10 more like Windows 7 than it would have been otherwise.
There were definite things one had to do with windows 8, but not Windows 10,
at least not that I can think of.


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Behler
[tombehler@...]
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Orlando Enrique Fiol
 

Go into advanced sharing and make sure that the private, public and guest networks are all set to share files and printers. Then, make sure the password protected sharing radio button is set to off rather than on.
Your network's security will not be compromised since it's only being used by you and your wife.


Orlando Enrique Fiol
Ph.D. Candidate in Music Theory
University of Pennsylvania
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer and Pedagogue


Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Hi Tom,

I completely agree with Dean, you should learn Windows 10 as it is, you have a desktop just as in Windows 7 except you could, if you wanted, have multiple desktops and switch between them with a keystroke, you have a start menu which still has a list of all your applications and you have the Taskbar which I find extremely useful since you can pin your most used applications to it and access them by pressing the Windows Key+Number on the Number Row. For example, if you have Google Chrome pinned as the first application on the taskbar, then Outlook, then Excel and then Skype you can press Windows Key+1 for Chrome, Windows Key+2 for Outlook, Windows Key+3 for Excel and Windows Key+4 for Skype. You can go all the way up to Windows Key+0 which means you can put 10 applications there and I don't even think most of use that many.
Furthermore the Cortana search box which you get when pressing the windows key is a great way to quickly find an application or folder or setting.
It will take a bit of practice and experimentation, but between the desktop, the taskbar and using the search box I don't hardly ever even use the start menu any more.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 7:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Dean:

I appreciate your thoughts here.

And, I'll check out the web site you suggest.

Will see what others have to say, and hope that this entire discussion
thread benefits other list members too.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

All told, I haven't found a justification for the apprehension some users
feel about switching to Windows 10. I can't think of a setting that somehow
makes Windows 10 more like Windows 7 than it would have been otherwise.
There were definite things one had to do with windows 8, but not Windows 10,
at least not that I can think of.


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


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Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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What function or command can't you find, Windows 10 still has the classic control panel in edition to the Settings app.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I have a Windows 7 machine and my wife just got a Windows 10 machine. I
need to use screen readers to access everything and sometimes have to work
on her computer. It sure would be nice if I did not have to relearn where a
function or command was on her computer. I had both computers on a network
and they communicated nicely until her computer auto updated it's self and
now I can't get onto her computer through my network from my computer. It
keeps asking for a user name and pass word which I never set up for. How do
I turn this off on her computer, so I can access it from my computer again?



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Dean:

I appreciate your thoughts here.

And, I'll check out the web site you suggest.

Will see what others have to say, and hope that this entire discussion
thread benefits other list members too.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

All told, I haven't found a justification for the apprehension some users
feel about switching to Windows 10. I can't think of a setting that somehow
makes Windows 10 more like Windows 7 than it would have been otherwise.
There were definite things one had to do with windows 8, but not Windows 10,
at least not that I can think of.


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Behler
[tombehler@...]
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Yes, but you don't get to it in the same way, and I always forget how I did it before.



Love in Christ
Marty

-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 2:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

What function or command can't you find, Windows 10 still has the classic control panel in edition to the Settings app.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I have a Windows 7 machine and my wife just got a Windows 10 machine. I
need to use screen readers to access everything and sometimes have to work
on her computer. It sure would be nice if I did not have to relearn where a
function or command was on her computer. I had both computers on a network
and they communicated nicely until her computer auto updated it's self and
now I can't get onto her computer through my network from my computer. It
keeps asking for a user name and pass word which I never set up for. How do
I turn this off on her computer, so I can access it from my computer again?



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Dean:

I appreciate your thoughts here.

And, I'll check out the web site you suggest.

Will see what others have to say, and hope that this entire discussion
thread benefits other list members too.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

All told, I haven't found a justification for the apprehension some users
feel about switching to Windows 10. I can't think of a setting that somehow
makes Windows 10 more like Windows 7 than it would have been otherwise.
There were definite things one had to do with windows 8, but not Windows 10,
at least not that I can think of.


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Behler
[tombehler@...]
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Tom Behler
 

Sieghard:

Thanks very much.

This is encouraging, and I appreciate it.

Will keep everyone posted, and will ask questions as I need to.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 3:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hi Tom,

I completely agree with Dean, you should learn Windows 10 as it is, you have
a desktop just as in Windows 7 except you could, if you wanted, have
multiple desktops and switch between them with a keystroke, you have a start
menu which still has a list of all your applications and you have the
Taskbar which I find extremely useful since you can pin your most used
applications to it and access them by pressing the Windows Key+Number on the
Number Row. For example, if you have Google Chrome pinned as the first
application on the taskbar, then Outlook, then Excel and then Skype you can
press Windows Key+1 for Chrome, Windows Key+2 for Outlook, Windows Key+3 for
Excel and Windows Key+4 for Skype. You can go all the way up to Windows
Key+0 which means you can put 10 applications there and I don't even think
most of use that many.
Furthermore the Cortana search box which you get when pressing the windows
key is a great way to quickly find an application or folder or setting.
It will take a bit of practice and experimentation, but between the desktop,
the taskbar and using the search box I don't hardly ever even use the start
menu any more.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 7:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Dean:

I appreciate your thoughts here.

And, I'll check out the web site you suggest.

Will see what others have to say, and hope that this entire discussion
thread benefits other list members too.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

All told, I haven't found a justification for the apprehension some users
feel about switching to Windows 10. I can't think of a setting that somehow
makes Windows 10 more like Windows 7 than it would have been otherwise.
There were definite things one had to do with windows 8, but not Windows 10,
at least not that I can think of.


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Behler
[tombehler@...]
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

To add one more thing, in Windows 10 you can still assign hotkeys to applications, like control-alt-j for Jaws.
I ran Classic shell when I first updated my previous computer from Windows 8 to 10, and after a while, removed it and focused on Windows 10. It isn't that hard, and in fact, I like it much better.
Richard



"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — Jane Wagner

On Oct 25, 2018, at 5:21 AM, Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

Sieghard:

Thanks very much.

This is encouraging, and I appreciate it.

Will keep everyone posted, and will ask questions as I need to.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 3:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hi Tom,

I completely agree with Dean, you should learn Windows 10 as it is, you have
a desktop just as in Windows 7 except you could, if you wanted, have
multiple desktops and switch between them with a keystroke, you have a start
menu which still has a list of all your applications and you have the
Taskbar which I find extremely useful since you can pin your most used
applications to it and access them by pressing the Windows Key+Number on the
Number Row. For example, if you have Google Chrome pinned as the first
application on the taskbar, then Outlook, then Excel and then Skype you can
press Windows Key+1 for Chrome, Windows Key+2 for Outlook, Windows Key+3 for
Excel and Windows Key+4 for Skype. You can go all the way up to Windows
Key+0 which means you can put 10 applications there and I don't even think
most of use that many.
Furthermore the Cortana search box which you get when pressing the windows
key is a great way to quickly find an application or folder or setting.
It will take a bit of practice and experimentation, but between the desktop,
the taskbar and using the search box I don't hardly ever even use the start
menu any more.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 7:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Dean:

I appreciate your thoughts here.

And, I'll check out the web site you suggest.

Will see what others have to say, and hope that this entire discussion
thread benefits other list members too.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

All told, I haven't found a justification for the apprehension some users
feel about switching to Windows 10. I can't think of a setting that somehow
makes Windows 10 more like Windows 7 than it would have been otherwise.
There were definite things one had to do with windows 8, but not Windows 10,
at least not that I can think of.


Thought-provoking reading: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbahaiteachings.org&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc925c162c0854a315caf08d63a74661f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636760668931066119&amp;sdata=Gu2EIh5B3bmYsY3%2BEteBLptgAwSX96DCSO0dv9kDts8%3D&amp;reserved=0

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Behler
[tombehler@...]
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Hi Marty,

There really is little to remember except to press the Windows Key and start typing Control, usually by the time you type the "o" it will pop up and say "Control Panel, desktop app" then just press enter and you got it.
If not just type the third letter, n, I can almost guaranty that at most you have to type the full word "Control" but most likely it will come up a lot sooner.
If you prefer to have it on the desktop as a shortcut, just do the following:
Do the above, i.e. press Windows Key and start typing "Control" until you hear Control Panel, desktop app
Press the application key or Shift+F10
Arrow to Open File location, most likely pressing down arrow once will do it, and press enter. This will open Windows Explorer and put you in the System Tools folder which is a subfolder of AppData, but fairly deeply nested
Now press application key again or Shift+F10, arrow to "Send To", right arrow to expand this and arrow to "Shortcut to Desktop".
Just for your information, this folder contains shortcuts for the following 6 system applications/commands:
Command Prompt
Control Panel
File Explorer
Run
This PC
Windows Administrative Tools

Another useful shortcut to remember in Windows 10 is Windows Key+X, it gives you easy access to the following items:
Apps and Features, f
Mobility Center, b
Power Options, o
Event Viewer, v
System, y
Device Manager, m
Network Connections, w
Disk Management, k
Computer Management, g
Windows PowerShell, i
Windows PowerShell (Admin), a
Task Manager, t
Settings, n
File Explorer, e
Search, s
Run, r
Shut down or sign out sub menu, u
Desktop, d

Lastly, you can also create a shortcut on the desktop and if you paste in the below text into the target field (where it says "Type the location" it will create an item called "Explorer" which you can rename to whatever you want on your desktop.
This folder in my case contains 173 items and these are all my installed applications, but also included are things like Control Panel, Command Prompt etc.
Here is what you need to copy and paste into the location/target field when you create the shortcut:

%windir%\explorer.exe shell:Appsfolder

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Yes, but you don't get to it in the same way, and I always forget how I did it before.



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 2:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

What function or command can't you find, Windows 10 still has the classic
control panel in edition to the Settings app.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I have a Windows 7 machine and my wife just got a Windows 10 machine. I
need to use screen readers to access everything and sometimes have to work
on her computer. It sure would be nice if I did not have to relearn where a
function or command was on her computer. I had both computers on a network
and they communicated nicely until her computer auto updated it's self and
now I can't get onto her computer through my network from my computer. It
keeps asking for a user name and pass word which I never set up for. How do
I turn this off on her computer, so I can access it from my computer again?



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Dean:

I appreciate your thoughts here.

And, I'll check out the web site you suggest.

Will see what others have to say, and hope that this entire discussion
thread benefits other list members too.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

All told, I haven't found a justification for the apprehension some users
feel about switching to Windows 10. I can't think of a setting that somehow
makes Windows 10 more like Windows 7 than it would have been otherwise.
There were definite things one had to do with windows 8, but not Windows 10,
at least not that I can think of.


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Behler
[tombehler@...]
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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david
 

As you become more familiar with Windows 10, you will likely appreciate how
easy it is to access the universal apps and desktop applications you use
every

day . assuming you do so from either Start or the taskbar. But one thing
Windows 10 doesn't provide is a way to create a shortcut to these apps so
you

can launch them from the desktop or elsewhere.

Or, at least an obvious way.

But as it turns out, all of the applications installed on your PC, including
the universal apps that come with Windows 10 or are downloaded from Windows

Store are accessible from a hidden shell view called Applications. Once you
open this view in File Explorer, you can create shortcuts for any of them.
Open the Run dialog (Windows+R=run), type in:

shell:AppsFolder

and then press enter to view this folder.

apps-folder

Find an app you wish to create a shortcut for, right-click (applications
key, or, shift+f10 and choose Create shortcut from the pop-up menu that
appears.

create-shortcut

You'll be prompted that the shortcut cannot be placed here, and Windows will
recommend placing it on the desktop instead. Press enter on Yes. A shortcut
with the name App-Name Shortcut (Mail Shortcut) will appear on the desktop.
You can leave this as-is, or rename it (I usually remove the word,
Shortcut). And you can of course move the shortcut to any folder as needed.

Now, just repeat for all the app shortcuts you need.

       The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a
dream.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hi Marty,

There really is little to remember except to press the Windows Key and start
typing Control, usually by the time you type the "o" it will pop up and say
"Control Panel, desktop app" then just press enter and you got it.
If not just type the third letter, n, I can almost guaranty that at most you
have to type the full word "Control" but most likely it will come up a lot
sooner.
If you prefer to have it on the desktop as a shortcut, just do the
following:
Do the above, i.e. press Windows Key and start typing "Control" until you
hear Control Panel, desktop app
Press the application key or Shift+F10
Arrow to Open File location, most likely pressing down arrow once will do
it, and press enter. This will open Windows Explorer and put you in the
System Tools folder which is a subfolder of AppData, but fairly deeply
nested
Now press application key again or Shift+F10, arrow to "Send To", right
arrow to expand this and arrow to "Shortcut to Desktop".
Just for your information, this folder contains shortcuts for the following
6 system applications/commands:
Command Prompt
Control Panel
File Explorer
Run
This PC
Windows Administrative Tools

Another useful shortcut to remember in Windows 10 is Windows Key+X, it gives
you easy access to the following items:
Apps and Features, f
Mobility Center, b
Power Options, o
Event Viewer, v
System, y
Device Manager, m
Network Connections, w
Disk Management, k
Computer Management, g
Windows PowerShell, i
Windows PowerShell (Admin), a
Task Manager, t
Settings, n
File Explorer, e
Search, s
Run, r
Shut down or sign out sub menu, u
Desktop, d

Lastly, you can also create a shortcut on the desktop and if you paste in
the below text into the target field (where it says "Type the location" it
will create an item called "Explorer" which you can rename to whatever you
want on your desktop.
This folder in my case contains 173 items and these are all my installed
applications, but also included are things like Control Panel, Command
Prompt etc.
Here is what you need to copy and paste into the location/target field when
you create the shortcut:

%windir%\explorer.exe shell:Appsfolder

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Yes, but you don't get to it in the same way, and I always forget how I did
it before.



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 2:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

What function or command can't you find, Windows 10 still has the classic
control panel in edition to the Settings app.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I have a Windows 7 machine and my wife just got a Windows 10 machine. I
need to use screen readers to access everything and sometimes have to work
on her computer. It sure would be nice if I did not have to relearn where a
function or command was on her computer. I had both computers on a network
and they communicated nicely until her computer auto updated it's self and
now I can't get onto her computer through my network from my computer. It
keeps asking for a user name and pass word which I never set up for. How do
I turn this off on her computer, so I can access it from my computer again?



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Dean:

I appreciate your thoughts here.

And, I'll check out the web site you suggest.

Will see what others have to say, and hope that this entire discussion
thread benefits other list members too.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

All told, I haven't found a justification for the apprehension some users
feel about switching to Windows 10. I can't think of a setting that somehow
makes Windows 10 more like Windows 7 than it would have been otherwise.
There were definite things one had to do with windows 8, but not Windows 10,
at least not that I can think of.


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Behler
[tombehler@...]
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Marty Hutchings
 

Thank you Sieghard, It seems a little like we are going back to the days of DOS where we needed to type in the apps that we wanted to open rather than finding it in a list or menu.
Love in Christ
Marty

-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 11:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hi Marty,

There really is little to remember except to press the Windows Key and start typing Control, usually by the time you type the "o" it will pop up and say "Control Panel, desktop app" then just press enter and you got it.
If not just type the third letter, n, I can almost guaranty that at most you have to type the full word "Control" but most likely it will come up a lot sooner.
If you prefer to have it on the desktop as a shortcut, just do the following:
Do the above, i.e. press Windows Key and start typing "Control" until you hear Control Panel, desktop app
Press the application key or Shift+F10
Arrow to Open File location, most likely pressing down arrow once will do it, and press enter. This will open Windows Explorer and put you in the System Tools folder which is a subfolder of AppData, but fairly deeply nested
Now press application key again or Shift+F10, arrow to "Send To", right arrow to expand this and arrow to "Shortcut to Desktop".
Just for your information, this folder contains shortcuts for the following 6 system applications/commands:
Command Prompt
Control Panel
File Explorer
Run
This PC
Windows Administrative Tools

Another useful shortcut to remember in Windows 10 is Windows Key+X, it gives you easy access to the following items:
Apps and Features, f
Mobility Center, b
Power Options, o
Event Viewer, v
System, y
Device Manager, m
Network Connections, w
Disk Management, k
Computer Management, g
Windows PowerShell, i
Windows PowerShell (Admin), a
Task Manager, t
Settings, n
File Explorer, e
Search, s
Run, r
Shut down or sign out sub menu, u
Desktop, d

Lastly, you can also create a shortcut on the desktop and if you paste in the below text into the target field (where it says "Type the location" it will create an item called "Explorer" which you can rename to whatever you want on your desktop.
This folder in my case contains 173 items and these are all my installed applications, but also included are things like Control Panel, Command Prompt etc.
Here is what you need to copy and paste into the location/target field when you create the shortcut:

%windir%\explorer.exe shell:Appsfolder

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Yes, but you don't get to it in the same way, and I always forget how I did it before.



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 2:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

What function or command can't you find, Windows 10 still has the classic
control panel in edition to the Settings app.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I have a Windows 7 machine and my wife just got a Windows 10 machine. I
need to use screen readers to access everything and sometimes have to work
on her computer. It sure would be nice if I did not have to relearn where a
function or command was on her computer. I had both computers on a network
and they communicated nicely until her computer auto updated it's self and
now I can't get onto her computer through my network from my computer. It
keeps asking for a user name and pass word which I never set up for. How do
I turn this off on her computer, so I can access it from my computer again?



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Dean:

I appreciate your thoughts here.

And, I'll check out the web site you suggest.

Will see what others have to say, and hope that this entire discussion
thread benefits other list members too.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

All told, I haven't found a justification for the apprehension some users
feel about switching to Windows 10. I can't think of a setting that somehow
makes Windows 10 more like Windows 7 than it would have been otherwise.
There were definite things one had to do with windows 8, but not Windows 10,
at least not that I can think of.


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


Rob Whyte
Assistive Technology | Specialist Services | VisAbility Work days: Mon,
Tue, Wed JAWS 2018 certified

PO Box 82 North Hobart TAS 7002
62 Invermay Road, Launceston TAS 7248
164 Elizabeth Street, Hobart TAS 7000

T: 03 6232 1248 | F: 03 6232 1221
M: 0429 366 589
E: mailto:rob.whyte@...



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From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Behler
[tombehler@...]
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 02:09 PM, Marty Hutchings wrote:
It seems a little like we are going back to the days of DOS where we needed to type in the apps that we wanted to open rather than finding it in a list or menu.
Not really.  Even in the days of the Start Menu as it was implemented prior to Windows 10, very few people knew where each and every program they'd ever installed might be located, and it could take a lot longer to dig through your Start Menu to find it than to search for it.  If it was a standalone program, and I still use a lot of those, they never appear in the Start Menu (at least unless you go to lengths to put them there).

I truly love the Cortana search feature, which I've neutered down to just search my machine and not to use speech recognition/personal digital assistant features at all, for finding those applications I don't use all that often and that I don't want cluttering up my desktop or taskbar.  WinKey plus the first few characters of the application name, just enough to be distinctive, has it pop up generally as the first item in the search results and all I do is hit Enter to fire it up.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

  If you remove all the homosexuals and homosexual influences from what is generally regarded as American culture, you are pretty much left with Let's Make a Deal.

          ~ Fran Lebowitz


Marty Hutchings
 

Is it possible to put a link to the Applications folder on the start menu?  I use the All Programs menu in Windows 7 a lot to find those programs that I didn’t have on the desktop or task bar.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
 

Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View
 
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 02:09 PM, Marty Hutchings wrote:
It seems a little like we are going back to the days of DOS where we needed to type in the apps that we wanted to open rather than finding it in a list or menu.
Not really.  Even in the days of the Start Menu as it was implemented prior to Windows 10, very few people knew where each and every program they'd ever installed might be located, and it could take a lot longer to dig through your Start Menu to find it than to search for it.  If it was a standalone program, and I still use a lot of those, they never appear in the Start Menu (at least unless you go to lengths to put them there).

I truly love the Cortana search feature, which I've neutered down to just search my machine and not to use speech recognition/personal digital assistant features at all, for finding those applications I don't use all that often and that I don't want cluttering up my desktop or taskbar.  WinKey plus the first few characters of the application name, just enough to be distinctive, has it pop up generally as the first item in the search results and all I do is hit Enter to fire it up.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

  If you remove all the homosexuals and homosexual influences from what is generally regarded as American culture, you are pretty much left with Let's Make a Deal.

          ~ Fran Lebowitz